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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Interior & Equipment => Topic started by: CA Big Red on October 25, 2015, 10:38:22 am
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What started out as a VintageAir project has turned into replace the floor pans, stereo and seat. I found a little more rust than I remember.
So, I'm looking to replace the driver and passenger floor pans and wondering if there are going to be other pieces, like the piece that rubber door sealer slides into that I can also replace and weld in there.
I'd like to also add sound deadening and heat sealer onto the floor of the cab. I saw VintageAir promoting lizard skin, any better options? I would love a quieter ride. I had an pad and heat shield installed. I might just throw that on top of whatever I do.
I'd also like to get new red seatbelts. The bolts seem frozen right now but I've got some pB poured in them now. Suggestions for new or good clean red belts would be great.
Finally the seat. I researched a ton on the 60/40 split and I'm torn. I really want the arm rest and I really want the stock bench seat. Anyone see a custom upholstery job where an arm rest with cup holders were built into one of these benches? I may just stick with vinyl too, for clean up purposes. I have 3 young kids and lots of trips planned. So rubber and vinyl still makes sense to me.
I didn't see any red 60/40s out there last night anyway. So, looking for seat ideas.
In the meantime, new VintageAir system is going in.
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Recommendations on floor pan replacements? Quality? Price I should pay?
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Did you look in the store? http://store.73-87chevytrucks.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=7&Category_Code=C1
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You may need footwell panels, the cab mount cross member, inner and outer rocker panels. There is a 5 piece set and other pieces available on this site. The brace running front to back can be replaced if needed, but I made a patch from the old cab mount cross member.
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Thanks Captain. Do you have a thread on your floor pan project? I'm a visual learner.
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Vile, I did. Looks like the pans are there. Seems like a good price, although I haven't looked at shipping. I also have a yard nearby that I could cut OEM pans from (assuming good shape) and weld those in. So, I'm interested in all ideas and suggestions. Are the aftermarket pans of good quality? Or maybe it's just good enough?
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What is the "Slip on" rocker?
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I haven't put a thread together yet. I think my photo size is to big. I finally got the pictures from my phone onto my laptop though. It's actually my daughter's pickup, so she has a lot of the pictures. There is a rocker panel thread pinned to the top somewhere on here. That's how I found this forum was searching for pics. It's worth your time to look at.
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A slip on rocker is oversize and "slips on" over the old rusty one. Not the right way to do things. When looking at floor pans, there are drop in or weld in pans. If your cutting the old stuff out, you need the weld in pan. It has the lip on the outside (in front of the door, next to the footwell panel) bent down so it can be welded to the footwell panel and lower cowl.
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Click on the forum button, then scroll to body and click, and rocker panel question is pinned to the top.
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That is a great thread and more than I bargained for when I pealed back the rubber mat. But I'm here now and want to fix this while I'm installing the air.
Here is more of what I have on drivers side.
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Here are some pics from passenger side.
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I read an article years ago that delved into the science of automotive sound deadening. According to the article, there are two noise problems requiring two different strategies. First are resonant frequencies that transmit through to the cabin by resonating the larger sheet metal panels on the car. These can be reduced with a patch of a bituminous deadening material like Dynamat. The rest of the frequencies can be eliminated with more lightweight materials like open-cell foam. I owned a BMW at the time, which was silent as a crypt inside. When I pulled the door panel, that was exactly the way they had done it. There was a patch (maybe 10"x12") of bituminous material on the sheet metal door panel and a 1/2" layer of open-cell foam behind the door panel. I haven't been able to find that article, or any like it, since. That's why I have to write these long posts.
Anyway, in your case, you should put two or three modest patches of Dynamat (some people swear by the roof patch rolls from Home Depot), and maybe a layer of jute beneath the carpet. That should do you right.
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This is great info. Thanks Dr.
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Rust sucks!!!
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I agree with joec... RUST SUCKS! I dont tolerate it. Just changed out a rusted battery tray. Thats a nice project truck, stay with it.
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Oh, and new factory oem seatbelts do not exist. Nor do aftermarket lookalikes. Some 73-87 parts they just cant produce. My original belts were so bad they deteriorated and crumbled apart. Had to get black aftermkt. But they do install fine.
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I also need that little lip the weather strip attaches too... What body panel is it a part of?
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Isnt that actually part of the cab itself, that might be a challenge. Perhaps check the three letter catalog we dont mention on this site.
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I also need that little lip the weather strip attaches too... What body panel is it a part of?
If your talking about the lip along the bottom of the door area, that is part of the outer rocker. It also looks like you need a section of the inner rocker( inner rocker is actually part of the outer floor)
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The floors are in! Lizardskin is on. Things are looking good.
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I painted the stick shift and steering column while I waited for the lizardskin to dry.
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That looks really nice, I'm impressed.
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Thanks LTZ. I'm impressed that the cab already sounds different when you're in there with the doors closed. Like it might actually be working. I haven't fired it up yet to hear the difference. I need to put the rubber floor liner back down, install the seat, etc.
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Yea I'm sure it does.
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Which lizardskin product did you use? I'm actually thinking about doing this EXACT same project as I have quite a bit of rust under there and I didn't remember it being that bad. Yours came out quite a bit better than I was expecting. Are you leaving the liner like that or putting the original carper or flooring back over it? I believe I'll need new carpet though cause mine is pretty shot.
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I ran across a cheap alternative product for sound deadening and used it on my doors and was very happy with the results.
PEEL & SEAL aluminum flashing.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_154017-81326-PS625___?Ntt=peel+and+seal&UserSearch=peel+and+seal&productId=1018733
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Thanks! I'm for sure going to do this in the next week! Just gotta order some replacement metal to fix the rusty floor first.
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The sound deadening has been an improvement, but not as quiet of a ride as I had hoped. Worth it? I can't give it an enthusiastic yes. However, I'll have a better sense of things when I get this new mat installed and holes covered in the high hump. I also still need to finish my AC and put the dash back together. Then I think we'll be able to compare apples to apples. Bottom line, a cell phone call rolling at 65mph is really not fair to the person on the other end.
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I did get the new seat belts and seat cover installed. Really like the way the seat turned out. Very disappointed in the retro belts USA. Crazy that they send that product out like that.
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Vinyl floor took some massaging.
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Belts were a challenge, but I was able to identify a workable solution.
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Where did you end up getting the vinyl floor?
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Where did you end up getting the vinyl floor?
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Unfortunately, from my experience Kaiser, we are not allowed to talk about where we purchase things on this forum. But if you want to chat about it on Instagram, we can at @bigred_squarebody
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That is because this site sells vinyl flooring.
Chris Lucas
73-87chevytrucks.com
squarebody.biz
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Finally have everything all together. I’ve been driving around with the bezel off for over a year, basically waiting to buy the retro sound stereo with Bluetooth. Once I had that, I decided I’d install the carpet, the new speakers and put the interior all back together. I think it turned out pretty nice. Feels new. Quieter. And I’ve got tunes again!
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Finally have everything all together. I’ve been driving around with the bezel off for over a year, basically waiting to buy the retro sound stereo with Bluetooth. Once I had that, I decided I’d install the carpet, the new speakers and put the interior all back together. I think it turned out pretty nice. Feels new. Quieter. And I’ve got tunes again!
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