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General Site Info => General Discussion => Topic started by: zieg85 on January 01, 2016, 10:29:40 pm
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Well today I had some time to check out a couple of known issues with the truck besides the airbag light.
I bought the truck with the radio not working... The previous owner said it just quit playing one day.
Today was a nice enough day I thought I would change the radio out and see how the speakers sounded to see if I wanted to put some nice tunes or just get a stock radio for it. I have a 99 Grand Am I am parting out that had a radio in it to try out. I pull both radio's out and put the Grand Am's in there to see. Still no sound... I throw the truck radio in the Grand Am and it works fine... Very confused and I can't imagine that all 4 speakers in the truck quit working at the same time??? Any ideas? I tore 1/2 the dash apart trying to figure out the floor/vent/defrost cable to no avail. I now know the radio is fine, the cable is binding but stuck on defrost as it was before, whole day wasted...
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i know on some trucks (not sure about ours) but they have a remote amp. i know years like the 04 will have it but idk when they started
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i know on some trucks (not sure about ours) but they have a remote amp. i know years like the 04 will have it but idk when they started
Makes sense, maybe someone will chime in and confirm it.
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do you have bucket seats up front with the center console
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it apparently could be behind the glove box (smaller than a ecm) or in the center console (might be tahoe/burb/crewcab style)
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No buckets, has a jump seat that is fixed in the middle. You can't get much plainer of a truck than mine.
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I had to replace all the speakers in my '05. The door speakers were the main culprit. If it was warm outside, the speakers worked okay. When the speakers were cold, they quite working.
Are you hearing the "key in the ignition" or "headlight on" chime?
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Are you hearing the "key in the ignition" or "headlight on" chime?
Yes the chime is working. Clock, Seek, Scan, locks into stations, just zero sound. Put the same radio into something else it works fine.
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Stock GM radios sometimes have to be unlocked. They have a feature which prevents them from being swapped from car to car, unless they are unlocked. And they have to be similar model radios from similar model vehicles. The feature is for people who steal the and then try to resell them to unsuspecting customers.
Like radio from a 03 Tahoe into a 05 suburban, from a 02 suburban to a 01 truck, or from a 04 truck to 06 Tahoe. And sometimes they don't always work even if you unlock them.
The fact that truck radio works in the Pontiac is strange but I'm not surprised the Pontiac radio doesn't work in the truck. Is either radio have the word "locked" on the screen? Plus Pontiac radios have always been different from the radios used in the Chevy or gmc vehicles, whether it be car, truck or suv.
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Stock GM radios sometimes have to be unlocked. They have a feature which prevents them from being swapped from car to car, unless they are unlocked. And they have to be similar model radios from similar model vehicles. The feature is for people who steal the and then try to resell them to unsuspecting customers.
Like radio from a 03 Tahoe into a 05 suburban, from a 02 suburban to a 01 truck, or from a 04 truck to 06 Tahoe. And sometimes they don't always work even if you unlock them.
The fact that truck radio works in the Pontiac is strange but I'm not surprised the Pontiac radio doesn't work in the truck. Is either radio have the word "locked" on the screen? Plus Pontiac radios have always been different from the radios used in the Chevy or gmc vehicles, whether it be car, truck or suv.
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Ignore everything I just said here lol. Looks like you go lucky and the radio works. I thought it was a logic lock issue with the radio but since it works and just no sound then the issue probably isn't the radio. I typed all that before I read your post about everything working just no sound. Pull one of the door speakers from the Pontiac, pull both door panels on the truck and then unplug the truck speakers, plug in the Pontiac speakers and see if you get sound. The easiest way to test everything between the radio and the speaker is by swapping in a different speaker.
I do remember one time that we had a farm truck one day that lost all sound, turns out in fact all for speakers had stopped working 1 by 1 until the last 1 quick and the sound stopped. You have more diagnosis to do.
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if the radios are the same they might also have the remote amp you might be able to swap them also
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if the radios are the same they might also have the remote amp you might be able to swap them also
I have Google searched about 4 hours trying to find out if there is a remote amp situation but have only found mention of the higher end Bose systems... I guess it is clip breaking door panel removal time.
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theres two systems the bose and non bose. i know my impala has one but its the bose my buddys tahoe has one and im unsure of the style
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http://www.gmfullsize.com/threads/factory-amp-bypass-2001-tahoe-non-bose.51869/
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AND never mind
Re: Factory Amp Bypass? (2001 Tahoe Non Bose)
Well, from my research on the net, I have discovered that the amp is in fact in the factory radio, but on the Tahoe's and Suburban's Non-Bose but with the factory sub in the rear, the amplified signal is sent to a crossover located behind the glove box. Since I installed a Pioneer deck which has an adjustable high pass crossover, I want to bypass the factory crossover. I actually found a thread on Z71Tahoe-Suburban.com with a way to do this.
Link To Thread
But thanks for all the suggestions guys
http://www.fullsizechevy.com/forum/general-discussion/audio-video-electronics/202565-factory-amp-bypass-2001-tahoe-non-bose.html#post2035741
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theres two systems the bose and non bose. i know my impala has one but its the bose my buddys tahoe has one and im unsure of the style
Thanks Tim for the research. I actually read that thread on FSC but missed that paragraph about the radio being self sufficient. Guess it is speaker time... I hate removing plastic in the cold weather. Might be a better spring project as to not break anything
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Don't know what year it started on Gm vehicles the chimes and turn signal sounds come Thru the left front speaker. If you can here the turn signal click thru the speaker it's good.
Both my cobalts do it or did. Replaced front speakers in the front due to no sound in the 07 and have no sound in the 09 front speakers.
Just a thought.
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My '05 2500HD chimes through the left front speaker (why I asked earlier).
Out of curiosity, I checked our '01 Tahoe to see about the chimes through the speakers, which it does not chime through the speakers.
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My '05 2500HD chimes through the left front speaker (why I asked earlier).
Out of curiosity, I checked our '01 Tahoe to see about the chimes through the speakers, which it does not chime through the speakers.
Chimes from under the dash somewhere, definitely not from the LF speaker. Got the chimes for key in the ignition, door open and lights on without key in the ignition...
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Chimes from under the dash somewhere, definitely not from the LF speaker. Got the chimes for key in the ignition, door open and lights on without key in the ignition...
Same operation from our '01 Tahoe.
With the base model radio/speakers in my '05 2500HD, plus experience with '05 1500 base model trucks, the stock base model speakers are not that great; I'd still suspect the speakers may be the culprit.
FWIW - Since you tested the radio otherwise and it worked, my suspicion would still be with the speakers and think you're on the right track to check out the speakers. Hopefully it may simply be a case where you can swap the Pontiac speakers (or other brand) and all is good.
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FWIW - Since you tested the radio otherwise and it worked, my suspicion would still be with the speakers and think you're on the right track to check out the speakers. Hopefully it may simply be a case where you can swap the Pontiac speakers (or other brand) and all is good.
That is the direction I am leaning, hopefully they are the same size.
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I had an 05 that had intermitent radio isues. Would not work most of the time, but would once in a while. I found a mouse house under the under hood fuse box. fixed a couple wires, radio worked after that.
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I had an 05 that had intermitent radio isues. Would not work most of the time, but would once in a while. I found a mouse house under the under hood fuse box. fixed a couple wires, radio worked after that.
Was it not powered (no clock or anything) or just no sound?
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The sound system in the 2002 base model Silverado is very basic. If you have determined that the radio head unit is fine the only thing left to check is the speakers or wiring.
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The sound system in the 2002 base model Silverado is very basic. If you have determined that the radio head unit is fine the only thing left to check is the speakers or wiring.
This, it's one of the most accurate I've seen here yet. Speakers, wiring, and head unit. The chime does not come thru the speakers on these types of systems.
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Something that I just read up on was these radios will go into a "safe" mode if they sense a ground issue with the speakers. They said if you take a AAA battery and with a couple test leads you can test each speaker by connecting the + and - to each speaker you should get a click that click tells you the speaker is good.
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Isn't that basically the same as doing an impedance test with an ohm meter? If the speaker pops, it means it's good?
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Idk anything about speakers lol but what tester do you need for that? I think the point of the AAA is its a diy tool you can make
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Just read up on that test and it will just tell you the ohms no lol that I heard or read. I'm sure it will tell you the same thing but again I don't know crap about speakers
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Basically, connect an analog ohmmeter to the speaker terminals with the wiring connector unplugged and set the meter to RX1 scale. If the speaker makes a popping sound, you know it's good. If nothing happens when you do that, then either the speaker is bad, or the wiring to it is. These are the instructions that came directly out of my GM wiring and electrical diagnosis manual for an 89 C/K series truck. It should obviously apply to our trucks, and the same should apply to the newer trucks as well.
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It's almost like doing a continuity test on a light bulb or circuit. Same basic principle. If you have a digital multi meter with the audible beeper function, then use that to test for continuity. When you touch the leads together, it beeps. Touch the leads to the terminals on the speaker, it should beep telling you it's good. Same concept as checking a light bulb or similar item.
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so you going to wait till warmer weather zeig?
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so you going to wait till warmer weather zeig?
Possibly... I messed up big time when loading my company car Monday to start my work week. I moved wrong and got the biggest charlie horse that hasn't gone away. 2 days finally working with my insurance provider to find a physician who accepts new patients now that I've relocated..
I am on short term disability until I can walk again. I see the doctor on 1/11 and figure out how bad. Sucks getting old
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dang thats sucks. i know my "family" doctor is at a clinic that ive gone to my whole life. a few years ago i would go there just for doctors notes for work. well i changed prisons so i havnt felt the need to call out in the past 3.5 years, now since its been over 3 years im a "new patient" so now im using my sons doctor and shes not accepting new patients but since she sees my son daughter and wife she will see me. so i got that working for me which is nice
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I just got a new dentist, first thing we did was x rays, inspection of the dome mounted meat grinders and then 3 fillings. I can eat curtain foods again without feeling like I got shanked in the head. Curtain stuff would send me thru the roof.
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I just got a new dentist, first thing we did was x rays, inspection of the dome mounted meat grinders and then 3 fillings. I can eat curtain foods again without feeling like I got shanked in the head. Curtain stuff would send me thru the roof.
Well there's your problem. You're not supposed to chew on the curtains. ;D
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I just got a new dentist, first thing we did was x rays, inspection of the dome mounted meat grinders and then 3 fillings. I can eat curtain foods again without feeling like I got shanked in the head. Curtain stuff would send me thru the roof.
Well there's your problem. You're not supposed to chew on the curtains. ;D
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Actually, I'm trying to figure what dental work has to do with radio function, unless you're able to tune stations with your fillings and just wanted an RF alignment for better reception....? :o
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The thread got de-railed by me, I shouldn't have gotten specific on my answer
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havnt you seen the clip from Lucille ball clip with her fillings and picking up radio signals.
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The thread got de-railed by me, I shouldn't have gotten specific on my answer
It doesn't hurt anything. But, it is an interesting turn. Muscle spasms are quite debilitating. Hope "everyone" recovers soon. ;)
havnt you seen the clip from Lucille ball clip with her fillings and picking up radio signals.
Irish, it was based on a true story!
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It doesn't hurt anything. But, it is an interesting turn. Muscle spasms are quite debilitating. Hope "everyone" recovers soon.
In my 53 years, nothing has hurt worse.. Thanks I hope so too
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In my 53 years, nothing has hurt worse..
Wait until you are my age. I'm sure you will find something.
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you guys arnt giving me much to look forward to
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Quit lookin over your shoulder.
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I just got a new dentist, first thing we did was x rays, inspection of the dome mounted meat grinders and then 3 fillings. I can eat curtain foods again without feeling like I got shanked in the head. Curtain stuff would send me thru the roof.
Well there's your problem. You're not supposed to chew on the curtains. ;D
Dangit, I didn't even realize I did that..... thanks BD. That made me laugh.
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Great, 30 years from now I'm gonna be like you guys hahaha. Just kidding.
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OK, I found out my speakers are bad. I am wondering if any of you GM parts guys can tell me what the difference besides part #'s of the GM speakers out there.
15038567 is in my '01, kinda pricey replacements northwards of $60 ea. on eBay for AC Delco
19116642 on ebay is less than 1/2 the cost, listing it for a '07 on up. They sure look the same, both 4 ohm and mounts look the same.
Any input? here is the 2 links
http://www.ebay.com/itm/361394837178?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Speaker-Front-ACDelco-GM-Original-Equipment-15038567-/111709972068?hash=item1a026ee664:g:7HwAAOSw9N1VpLg2&vxp=mtr
I'd hate to spend the extra when the newer one would work...
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I would advise to use the correct part. The plugs look to be different.
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I would advise to use the correct part. The plugs look to be different.
sorry wrong second link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/361394837178?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I fixed the reply above, my bad
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Zieg, I recently installed a pair of Kicker 40CS654 (http://www.crutchfield.com/p_2064CS654/Kicker-40CS654.html?search=40CS654&skipvs=T) 6-1/2" coaxial speakers in the doors of a 2000 C1500. The speakers arrived with the appropriate mounting adapters and exact fit pigtails. I augmented the mounting by applying a strip of 3/8" self-adhesive, high density foam around the circumference of the mounting ring to help improve the seal to the door panel and dampen vibration. I also applied roughly 1 sq ft of Dynamat immediately around the speaker opening of the door. The aftermarket pair were a perfect fit and impedance match to the OE Delco radio. What a remarkable improvement.
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Zieg, I recently installed a pair of Kicker 40CS654 (http://www.crutchfield.com/p_2064CS654/Kicker-40CS654.html?search=40CS654&skipvs=T) 6-1/2" coaxial speakers in the doors of a 2000 C1500. The speakers arrived with the appropriate mounting adapters and exact fit pigtails. I augmented the mounting by applying a strip of 3/8" self-adhesive, high density foam around the circumference of the mounting ring to help improve the seal to the door panel and dampen vibration. I also applied roughly 1 sq ft of Dynamat immediately around the speaker opening of the door. The aftermarket pair were a perfect fit and impedance match to the OE Delco radio. What a remarkable improvement.
Thanks so much Rich, I value your opinion and trust your experience. I just ordered a pair. Thanks, I will let you know what I think of the sound. I may even buy a better radio for the old girl down the road. I am tired of riding around with no tunes...
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Given BD's imput, I would have ditched the stock ones too and done like him. Sounds like a better idea anyway.
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It won't turn the truck into a concert hall, but I don't think you will be disappointed. ;)
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It won't turn the truck into a concert hall, but I don't think you will be disappointed. ;)
Sounds pretty good for the price. Thanks Rich!!! Now I don't have to talk to myself, that was getting old
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Talking to yourself isn't a problem until it becomes a complete conversation.
You're welcome.
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ive had those conversations while dealing with inmates lol
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Ya when I bought my truck it was a factory radio delete so it took me about a week of driving in silence to Order my radio and I put in the retro sound model 2 and kickers all around, and last night I finished fine tuning it, wow that is an amazing setup it sounded close to a concert very happy with retrosound and kicker
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