Post by: philo_beddoe on April 30, 2016, 08:20:12 am
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Post by: Irish_Alley on April 30, 2016, 04:24:09 pm
I'll take it off your hands. One of my pieces are broken and I need it for partssorry this wont work, as we all know with ford it has to come off the same year for it to be compatible. but im sure some ford owner would love to have it for a good price
Post by: VileZambonie on April 30, 2016, 06:34:26 pm
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Post by: roundhouse on May 02, 2016, 06:45:43 am
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Post by: philo_beddoe on May 02, 2016, 08:41:46 am
I grew up with chevy, then tried a lot of others, now back to good old Cheby.
Post by: hatzie on May 02, 2016, 08:48:16 am
Post by: blazer74 on May 02, 2016, 11:17:45 am
I have both Chevy and Fords.
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 02, 2016, 12:39:14 pm
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 02, 2016, 02:43:07 pm
Post by: VileZambonie on May 02, 2016, 03:14:09 pm
You mean you would pass up a 1967 Shelby GT500?
If I was going to cross the line it would be a MOPAR
Post by: hatzie on May 02, 2016, 03:57:54 pm
You mean you would pass up a 1967 Shelby GT500?
If I was going to cross the line it would be a MOPAR
Guess I'm just a Mutt...
One VW, several GMs, 1973 F250 with a 390, & 1969 Dodge Polara 500 with a 383. LOL
Early Ford and Chrysler electronic ignition systems left a bit to be desired. TFI conversion on the 73 F250 and HEI on the 383.
Ford had a love affair with Holley and Mopar with Carter. I don't with either. Carter is a fuel hog. Holley is a PITA and a fuel hog. Tuned Rochester quads work equally well on the 390 and the 383... The key word being work which the Holley certainly did not.
Post by: blazer74 on May 02, 2016, 05:31:13 pm
I could be wrong tho I haven't seen a motorcraft part with the word China on it the package.
No government bail out for Ford either.
Otherwise I'm ok with all three at least with the older vehicles spells American.
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 02, 2016, 06:15:26 pm
I dont see how anyone on this forum would snub their nose at any 60's or 70's muscle car. Old classic vehicles are really cool, period. Even the non muscle,,even a pacer,,,,,even a gremlin! Lol
However, there is one ford i would use for target practise. Yup, the 79 pinto runabout. The 79 mustang was pretty embarassing too.
Were there any goofy looking chevy's?
BTW, that 67 shelby gt500, sells for about 1 m. Just sayin.
Post by: timthescarrd on May 02, 2016, 08:32:37 pm
Were there any goofy looking chevy's?
Yes, yes there were
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Post by: roundhouse on May 02, 2016, 09:57:58 pm
I have a 07 3/4 ton 4wd as a company truck and it's the roughest riding pickup I've have ever driven
Just as bad as my 77 K-10
And worse than most all of my 18 wheelers
And it rattles and squeaks , transmission shifts horribly
Clanks and clunks , takes almost 3 seconds to go into gear when you drop it into drive
The Tundra I had before that , wow. Now that was a nice truck
Rode like a car
Trans was smooth as silk
No squeaks or rattles
Light years better than ford or GM
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Post by: LTZ C20 on May 02, 2016, 10:17:25 pm
You mean you would pass up a 1967 Shelby GT500?And I wouldn't even regret it one bit.
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 02, 2016, 10:18:26 pm
I would too, if I had too, dodge before ford any day.You mean you would pass up a 1967 Shelby GT500?
If I was going to cross the line it would be a MOPAR
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 02, 2016, 10:26:14 pm
No way I'd buy a new ChevyIf you're having those kinds of issues, you have something wrong with the truck. I've driven tons of newer trucks, both personal and company vehicles, they only have issues when they aren't cared for. The brand new trucks ride and run amazingly smooth.
I have a 07 3/4 ton 4wd as a company truck and it's the roughest riding pickup I've have ever driven
Just as bad as my 77 K-10
And worse than most all of my 18 wheelers
And it rattles and squeaks , transmission shifts horribly
Clanks and clunks , takes almost 3 seconds to go into gear when you drop it into drive
The Tundra I had before that , wow. Now that was a nice truck
Rode like a car
Trans was smooth as silk
No squeaks or rattles
Light years better than ford or GM
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Post by: roundhouse on May 03, 2016, 08:12:10 am
I assume the $65K ones ride nice. This is the plastic seat rubber floor can't adjust the mirrors work truckNo way I'd buy a new ChevyIf you're having those kinds of issues, you have something wrong with the truck. I've driven tons of newer trucks, both personal and company vehicles, they only have issues when they aren't cared for. The brand new trucks ride and run amazingly smooth.
I have a 07 3/4 ton 4wd as a company truck and it's the roughest riding pickup I've have ever driven
Just as bad as my 77 K-10
And worse than most all of my 18 wheelers
And it rattles and squeaks , transmission shifts horribly
Clanks and clunks , takes almost 3 seconds to go into gear when you drop it into drive
The Tundra I had before that , wow. Now that was a nice truck
Rode like a car
Trans was smooth as silk
No squeaks or rattles
Light years better than ford or GM
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But it's still a total POS
Whatever corners Chevy cut to make it a cheap work truck would keep me from ever buying a Chevy pickup of any kind
Fortunately this one belongs to my employer
I'm gonna try to remove some leafs from the springs and get them to swap the tires
Hopefully the company will buy a new one before too long and maybe I can talk them into a tundra instead of a Chevy
I haven't sen any indication that it has not been maintained ,
I do t see how skipping maintenance could make it ride worse than a dumptruck
That's just crap design or GM slapping on really stiff springs to call it a 3/4 ton
I suppose
It ride like my dads leaf spring jeep wrangler
Plus all the squeaks and rattles are just typical big three poor quality
They can brag all they want about how high quality their new vehicles are
Of course they are. All brand new vehicles are nice
The real quality test is when it's ten years old and has 170K miles on it
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 03, 2016, 09:03:20 am
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 03, 2016, 10:11:54 am
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 03, 2016, 10:14:06 am
You mean you would pass up a 1967 Shelby GT500?And I wouldn't even regret it one bit.
Why would you pass up a million dollar american classic muscle car? Wait, is it a Cali thing? Lol
Post by: roundhouse on May 03, 2016, 09:38:30 pm
The problem we see with the base model work trucks are just that, they are work trucks, owned by a company and driven by an employee. Most employees don't care about how they treat it, work trucks have a tendency to get over loaded companies view them as 200,000 mile disposable tax write off's. We have a few companies that bring there fleet trucks to us for service, one company has well over 100 trucks in the best 10 years and all these companies love there trucks and most of them are all 3/4 and 1 ton trucks with gas and diesel engines.That's what makes them great indicators of the true quality or lack thereof of the vehicle
Every vehicle is nice when it's brand new and or never used
What it's like after 8 years and 170k miles is its true character showing thru
If their work truck is a worthless squeaky clunky rough riding POS after 10 years why would I lay out big $$ for a nice version if it's gonna be in the same condition in 10 years ??
Post by: roundhouse on May 03, 2016, 09:43:43 pm
I didn't want one when they were worn out worthless gas guzzlers and don't want one nowYou mean you would pass up a 1967 Shelby GT500?And I wouldn't even regret it one bit.
Why would you pass up a million dollar american classic muscle car? Wait, is it a Cali thing? Lol
Most people only want cars because everyone else wants it
My fave is a 66 Thunderbird town coupe or town landau
They have never been worth much and won't ever be worth much
But Ive owned 5 and will buy another one one of these days
I've regretted selling every old car I've ever had
Not because they are valuable and desirable now
But because I thought they were cool then and only sold em to fund the next one
I've had a 70 Trans am cost me $1200 in 1992
A 69 Mercury cyclone cake Yarbrough edition $275 in 1981
A 66 thunderbird 428 $600 in '1980
A 69 thunderbird 4 door 429. $400 in 1981
Etc etc
Never cared much for mustangs
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 03, 2016, 10:09:58 pm
No, cuz it's still a ford, don't care how priceless or rare it is, it might be cool but it's still a ford.You mean you would pass up a 1967 Shelby GT500?And I wouldn't even regret it one bit.
Why would you pass up a million dollar american classic muscle car? Wait, is it a Cali thing? Lol
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 03, 2016, 10:12:25 pm
We have customer with an 04 GMC Sierra, original engine and trans, looks brand new inside and out, almost he's got to be getting close to 500,000 miles.The problem we see with the base model work trucks are just that, they are work trucks, owned by a company and driven by an employee. Most employees don't care about how they treat it, work trucks have a tendency to get over loaded companies view them as 200,000 mile disposable tax write off's. We have a few companies that bring there fleet trucks to us for service, one company has well over 100 trucks in the best 10 years and all these companies love there trucks and most of them are all 3/4 and 1 ton trucks with gas and diesel engines.That's what makes them great indicators of the true quality or lack thereof of the vehicle
Every vehicle is nice when it's brand new and or never used
What it's like after 8 years and 170k miles is its true character showing thru
If their work truck is a worthless squeaky clunky rough riding POS after 10 years why would I lay out big $$ for a nice version if it's gonna be in the same condition in 10 years ??
Post by: travisr1988 on May 03, 2016, 11:05:53 pm
I assume the $65K ones ride nice. This is the plastic seat rubber floor can't adjust the mirrors work truckNo way I'd buy a new ChevyIf you're having those kinds of issues, you have something wrong with the truck. I've driven tons of newer trucks, both personal and company vehicles, they only have issues when they aren't cared for. The brand new trucks ride and run amazingly smooth.
I have a 07 3/4 ton 4wd as a company truck and it's the roughest riding pickup I've have ever driven
Just as bad as my 77 K-10
And worse than most all of my 18 wheelers
And it rattles and squeaks , transmission shifts horribly
Clanks and clunks , takes almost 3 seconds to go into gear when you drop it into drive
The Tundra I had before that , wow. Now that was a nice truck
Rode like a car
Trans was smooth as silk
No squeaks or rattles
Light years better than ford or GM
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But it's still a total POS
Whatever corners Chevy cut to make it a cheap work truck would keep me from ever buying a Chevy pickup of any kind
Fortunately this one belongs to my employer
I'm gonna try to remove some leafs from the springs and get them to swap the tires
Hopefully the company will buy a new one before too long and maybe I can talk them into a tundra instead of a Chevy
I haven't sen any indication that it has not been maintained ,
I do t see how skipping maintenance could make it ride worse than a dumptruck
That's just crap design or GM slapping on really stiff springs to call it a 3/4 ton
I suppose
It ride like my dads leaf spring jeep wrangler
Plus all the squeaks and rattles are just typical big three poor quality
They can brag all they want about how high quality their new vehicles are
Of course they are. All brand new vehicles are nice
The real quality test is when it's ten years old and has 170K miles on it
My company truck is an '07 and it rides pretty decent with 3 boxes, a crane, and all the junk in it, the transmission had issues though. My dad just bought a '16 Silverado 1500 wt and it is the smoothest and quietest truck I've ever driven, my boss just got a '16 F150 sport and it's nice too, but the Chevy is smoother and quieter...I just hope they fix the Chevys hood before I can afford a new truck...the '16 hood is UGLY and makes no sense.
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 03, 2016, 11:17:43 pm
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 04, 2016, 08:29:14 am
And roundhouse, you are correct. Of course they should be perfect when they are brand new, but 10 yrs down the road is what matters.
Oh yeah, i take the prize for being the stupid one and selling a car i should have kept. Are you ready,,,,70 chevelle LS 6. Beat that.
Edit: but in 1985, they were everywhere.
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 04, 2016, 11:44:49 am
Post by: hatzie on May 04, 2016, 04:06:49 pm
I have a soft spot for the land yachts like mid to the late 60's thru early 70's Mopar C-bodies, late 60's Mercury and Lincoln, and the late 70's T-Bird barge with the 460.I didn't want one when they were worn out worthless gas guzzlers and don't want one nowYou mean you would pass up a 1967 Shelby GT500?And I wouldn't even regret it one bit.
Why would you pass up a million dollar american classic muscle car? Wait, is it a Cali thing? Lol
Most people only want cars because everyone else wants it
My fave is a 66 Thunderbird town coupe or town landau
They have never been worth much and won't ever be worth much
But Ive owned 5 and will buy another one one of these days
I've regretted selling every old car I've ever had
Not because they are valuable and desirable now
But because I thought they were cool then and only sold em to fund the next one
I've had a 70 Trans am cost me $1200 in 1992
A 69 Mercury cyclone cake Yarbrough edition $275 in 1981
A 66 thunderbird 428 $600 in '1980
A 69 thunderbird 4 door 429. $400 in 1981
Etc etc
Never cared much for mustangs
Had a 78 T-Bird barge and a two 1966 New Yorkers. I miss all three even that '78 fuel hog.
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Post by: blazer74 on May 04, 2016, 06:42:03 pm
After the American taxpayer bailed them out.
The new Gminese sucks.
Allison had to bail out Gm trucks in the transmission dept.
THANK GOODNESS for the oldies.
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 04, 2016, 08:46:45 pm
Post by: blazer74 on May 04, 2016, 09:26:13 pm
Auto makers have been taking advantage of cheap Mexican labor back to the mid 90's
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 04, 2016, 09:40:16 pm
Post by: hatzie on May 05, 2016, 01:49:59 am
Yup nafta, worst bill ever signed into law.NAFTA is a treaty not a bill. Poor negotiation at best.
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Post by: philo_beddoe on May 05, 2016, 07:31:06 am
Either way, bad idea.
Post by: Engineer on May 05, 2016, 08:26:12 pm
Wouldn't trade my square away buuuuuuuut, that doesn't mean I can't like others.
I could be wrong tho I haven't seen a motorcraft part with the word China on it the package.
No government bail out for Ford either.
Otherwise I'm ok with all three at least with the older vehicles spells American.
Are you sure about that?
Read these and decide if Ford was able to live without your hard earned tax dollars:
5.9billion from Uncle Sugar:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/06/23/ford-gets-5-billion-government-loan.html
This is the cute one. 7billion taxpayer dollars the article calls "black ops" so that Ford can fly under the radar of websites like the one we are on:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/06/23/ford-gets-5-billion-government-loan.html
You'll like this one from Forbes back in 2012:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/2012/08/29/automakers-report-card-who-still-owes-taxpayers-money-the-answer-might-surprise-you/#771406ad6a8c
Factcheck.org:
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/09/ford-motor-co-does-u-turn-on-bailouts/
Take a gander at this one:
http://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/editorial-did-ford-take-bailout-money-too-yes-they-did/
There used to be an awesome WSJ article however I can no longer find it. But you get the picture.
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 05, 2016, 08:54:11 pm
Post by: roundhouse on May 05, 2016, 09:50:54 pm
Ok LTZ, at least your honest, i'll respect that. Regarding fords, that is.In 1983 my 69 cyclone Yarbrough edition was worth $500
And roundhouse, you are correct. Of course they should be perfect when they are brand new, but 10 yrs down the road is what matters.
Oh yeah, i take the prize for being the stupid one and selling a car i should have kept. Are you ready,,,,70 chevelle LS 6. Beat that.
Edit: but in 1985, they were everywhere.
Now it would be worth $40K
The same day i sold it I went to a local auto auction and a guy was there with a 69 GTO judge 455/4 speed
I kinda liked it but didn't think it was worth his reserve of $1600
And neither did anyone else at the auction .....
Post by: blazer74 on May 05, 2016, 11:32:15 pm
Wouldn't trade my square away buuuuuuuut, that doesn't mean I can't like others.
I could be wrong tho I haven't seen a motorcraft part with the word China on it the package.
No government bail out for Ford either.
Otherwise I'm ok with all three at least with the older vehicles spells American.
Are you sure about that?
Read these and decide if Ford was able to live without your hard earned tax dollars:
5.9billion from Uncle Sugar:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/06/23/ford-gets-5-billion-government-loan.html
This is the cute one. 7billion taxpayer dollars the article calls "black ops" so that Ford can fly under the radar of websites like the one we are on:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2009/06/23/ford-gets-5-billion-government-loan.html
You'll like this one from Forbes back in 2012:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/2012/08/29/automakers-report-card-who-still-owes-taxpayers-money-the-answer-might-surprise-you/#771406ad6a8c
Factcheck.org:
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/09/ford-motor-co-does-u-turn-on-bailouts/
Take a gander at this one:
http://www.chevyhardcore.com/news/editorial-did-ford-take-bailout-money-too-yes-they-did/
There used to be an awesome WSJ article however I can no longer find it. But you get the picture.
That's good stuff E.
49 billion for Gm and they'd paid back roughly half .
9 billion for Chrysler who full-filled there obligation, hmmmm
Just under 6 billion for Ford and still owes.
Not really a comparison for either Ford or Chrysler compared to Gm.
Lesser of the Evils but evil no less.
Still can't stand the Gminese building Cadillacs after all that and the parts for Delco.
Hart what they all have become but again what isn't.
Even Boeing Aircraft puts Chinese parts on their aircraft.
I own 3 Chevy's 3 Fords and no Chryslers or Foreign Manufacturers.
How much of them is truly U.S.A, well?
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 06, 2016, 07:26:17 am
Ok LTZ, at least your honest, i'll respect that. Regarding fords, that is.In 1983 my 69 cyclone Yarbrough edition was worth $500
And roundhouse, you are correct. Of course they should be perfect when they are brand new, but 10 yrs down the road is what matters.
Oh yeah, i take the prize for being the stupid one and selling a car i should have kept. Are you ready,,,,70 chevelle LS 6. Beat that.
Edit: but in 1985, they were everywhere.
Now it would be worth $40K
The same day i sold it I went to a local auto auction and a guy was there with a 69 GTO judge 455/4 speed
I kinda liked it but didn't think it was worth his reserve of $1600
And neither did anyone else at the auction .....
A 69 JUDGE!!!!!!.......455!!!!.......4 SPEED?
I know how you feel...
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 06, 2016, 11:00:25 am
At this price it must be a real junker though,,
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/shelby/gt500/1832166.html?refer=musweekly
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 06, 2016, 03:27:12 pm
Post by: VileZambonie on May 06, 2016, 05:51:45 pm
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 06, 2016, 06:45:36 pm
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Post by: roundhouse on May 07, 2016, 07:58:48 am
Some reason everyone thinks that all the cars that are desirable and expensive now were always expensive and highly sought afterOk LTZ, at least your honest, i'll respect that. Regarding fords, that is.In 1983 my 69 cyclone Yarbrough edition was worth $500
And roundhouse, you are correct. Of course they should be perfect when they are brand new, but 10 yrs down the road is what matters.
Oh yeah, i take the prize for being the stupid one and selling a car i should have kept. Are you ready,,,,70 chevelle LS 6. Beat that.
Edit: but in 1985, they were everywhere.
Now it would be worth $40K
The same day i sold it I went to a local auto auction and a guy was there with a 69 GTO judge 455/4 speed
I kinda liked it but didn't think it was worth his reserve of $1600
And neither did anyone else at the auction .....
A 69 JUDGE!!!!!!.......455!!!!.......4 SPEED?
I know how you feel...
Not true. At some point they were all just worn out gas guzzlers that literally no one wanted
Post by: Engineer on May 07, 2016, 05:11:13 pm
That was just what was plentiful and what everybody drove. Now days what was common is rare and fauned over.
What I find entertaining is how Furd claims to have the best selling truck for 643 years running, and for most of those years they did sell more than any single brand, but add the twins together and the ratio is about 1:1 Ford/GM. Where are all of the Fords that used to fill my high school parking lots? I can't remember the last time I seen a 80-86 F-series 4x4. Same for the 87-91s. 92-98s occasionally but only the F-250/350. No F-150s. Once in a while I'll see a 80-86 4x2, but even those are rare. I can't go anywhere that I don't see several 73-87 GMs. And 67-72 aren't exactly rare.
Post by: philo_beddoe on May 07, 2016, 09:24:34 pm
During the mid 80's we used to hang out in a large parking lot opposite a strip mall, it looked like a huge car show does today. Every make and model from the 60's and 70's could be seen there. 6k would buy you just about any one of them, in showroom condition. Chevelle, road runner, mustang, whatever. Those were some good ole car days. I paid $1200 for my LS 6 Chevelle. Today, six figures.
I remember the 73-87 gen. quite clearly, they were everywhere! Just a plain old simple pick up truck. In 86 i drove a brand new custom deluxe right from the showroom back when i worked at a country club. We used to beat on it and burn the clutch until it smelled funny, after "smoking" we used to hold the lighter in untill it got real red hot and sink it into the dash pad. I was just a punk kid.
In case your wondering, yes, two diff jobs, same year.