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Title: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Engineer on May 03, 2016, 09:03:33 pm
My wife figured it out right away and she never went with me when I pulled vans, she only went with me in my flatbed days.

Anyone?

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1kza4HcGojc/VylXakeOaPI/AAAAAAAAA9s/0ZP0PYbUUUAtp-rddhL2_lBRdwYcCSxBgCCo/s512/fuel%2Bline%2B002.JPG)
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: FlatBlack77 on May 03, 2016, 10:22:44 pm
the plate that goes in the bottom left hand corner plate holder is missing? if i am not mistaken it identifies the hazards contained in the unit.

my only guess
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 03, 2016, 10:33:42 pm
the plate that goes in the bottom left hand corner plate holder is missing? if i am not mistaken it identifies the hazards contained in the unit.

my only guess
I thought of that too but if it has no hazardous materials on board I believe you don't need a hazard label.
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: FlatBlack77 on May 03, 2016, 10:51:26 pm
is it missing a hows my driving sticker?
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: travisr1988 on May 03, 2016, 11:11:16 pm
Iirc the plate in the lower left identifying hazards is required to have something there stating non-hazardous if there are no hazardous products on board.
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 03, 2016, 11:15:10 pm
Iirc the plate in the lower left identifying hazards is required to have something there stating non-hazardous if there are no hazardous products on board.
Well that blows holes in my theory.
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Engineer on May 04, 2016, 06:41:21 am
Here is a little hint:

The problem isn't with the load or anything associated with what could be inside the trailer. The problem is something that would indicate that there is a rookie hand on the other end of the trailer.
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Engineer on May 04, 2016, 06:46:37 am
Iirc the plate in the lower left identifying hazards is required to have something there stating non-hazardous if there are no hazardous products on board.
Well that blows holes in my theory.


Federal law was changed a few years ago that forbids the "Drive Safely" placard in the placard holder. The reason being is the idea that when responding to an accident the "Drive Safely" placard could misidentify the load to first responders and law enforcement. The new law only allows identification of haz-mat when a hazardous substance is present in a quantity that is sufficient to require placards.

Basically the new directive is intended to communicate "no placard, no haz-mat".
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 04, 2016, 07:35:40 am
does it have to do with the locks?
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Engineer on May 04, 2016, 07:55:25 am
does it have to do with the locks?

It very well could.

Depending on your screen resolution you may not be able to see that one is a seal and the other is a padlock.
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: travisr1988 on May 04, 2016, 10:22:21 am
^ah, my screen resolution must not be good because all I saw there were blurs lol
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 04, 2016, 01:03:18 pm
My screen resolution it's really good but when zoomed in, it's still not clear enough to tell. One door latch has a pad lock and one has a seal? As in weather seal or harbor seal? Haha
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Captain Swampy on May 04, 2016, 01:13:47 pm
They both need to be on the right door then. The left door won't open until the right one does. Would have needed to zoom in to see that though.
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 04, 2016, 01:34:37 pm
They both need to be on the right door then. The left door won't open until the right one does. Would have needed to zoom in to see that though.

i was leaving it for someone else but i think the lock is on the left side and the seal is on the right
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Engineer on May 04, 2016, 05:30:37 pm
The deal is the shipper's seal is on the right hand door......where it should be. Its presence to the consignee indicates that the load remains untouched since its leaving the shipper. The seal can easily be pulled off with your bare hands. The reason shippers put the seal on the right hand door is because the left hand door can't be opened until the right hand door is opened first.

Placing the lock on the left hand door does not prevent someone from tearing the seal off and opening the right hand door. By doing this you have access to the inside of the trailer. It is pointless to put a padlock on the left hand door.......unless what you are hauling is too large to fit through just one door.

If this driver keeps this practice up sooner or later he will have things stolen.
Title: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: blazer74 on May 04, 2016, 06:28:41 pm
Like this one

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160504/95367d1b93d6223cd55f027460322088.jpg)
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 04, 2016, 07:31:28 pm
Oh ok.
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Engineer on May 04, 2016, 08:43:47 pm
Like this one

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160504/95367d1b93d6223cd55f027460322088.jpg)

Here is another "what's wrong with this picture?" a Schneider truck in the left lane....
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: blazer74 on May 04, 2016, 09:05:28 pm
Not for long, he went around a a turning car then I bolted up to get the pick before I let him over.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160505/be0eab69599c651704197ebee22f8d65.jpg)
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Jason S on May 04, 2016, 09:19:32 pm
Like this one

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160504/95367d1b93d6223cd55f027460322088.jpg)

So the Ford is even trailing the Schneider trucks?    ;)
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: blazer74 on May 04, 2016, 09:29:08 pm
Like this one

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160504/95367d1b93d6223cd55f027460322088.jpg)

So the Ford is even trailing the Schneider trucks?    ;)


Good one,  LOL
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 04, 2016, 09:37:59 pm
Ok so wait, the seal, is that the actual seam between the 2 doors, black line straight up the middle?? Because in both Blazer74 and Engineers pictures, all I see is what looks like a regular rubber door seal between the two when they close so water don't leak in. Is there another seal I'm not seeing. Also, Engineers pic is blurry when zoomed in but I does look like there are pad locks on both the left and right inner latches.
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: blazer74 on May 04, 2016, 09:50:18 pm
The right door latch towards the middle has a seal. You can see the shadow.
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Jason S on May 04, 2016, 09:56:55 pm
Ok so wait, the seal, is that the actual seam between the 2 doors, black line straight up the middle?? Because in both Blazer74 and Engineers pictures, all I see is what looks like a regular rubber door seal between the two when they close so water don't leak in. Is there another seal I'm not seeing. Also, Engineers pic is blurry when zoomed in but I does look like there are pad locks on both the left and right inner latches.
 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in this case you should think of the seal like what is placed on an electrical meter to show tampering.
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: LTZ C20 on May 04, 2016, 10:18:36 pm
Ok so wait, the seal, is that the actual seam between the 2 doors, black line straight up the middle?? Because in both Blazer74 and Engineers pictures, all I see is what looks like a regular rubber door seal between the two when they close so water don't leak in. Is there another seal I'm not seeing. Also, Engineers pic is blurry when zoomed in but I does look like there are pad locks on both the left and right inner latches.
 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in this case you should think of the seal like what is placed on an electrical meter to show tampering.
OOOOHHHHHHH. Light bulb!
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Irish_Alley on May 05, 2016, 07:03:16 am
its a security seal, and it has a number on it that has to be logged to verify its the same seal that the truck left the previous destination with.
Title: Re: What is wrong with this picture?
Post by: Blazin on May 13, 2016, 04:43:12 am
A buddy of mine has gone in my sea container, & one of my storage trailers in the past. More than once he closes them up, & puts the pad lock on the left side door. After the fourth time I kinda snapped a little bit. I actually had to show him why its not done that way before he got it through his thick skull.
My second storage trailer is a roll up door, took some educational training with that one too. He would open it, and let it fly up. Its older, hence why its a storage trailer so I like to hold the pull strap when it opens to keep it from being so violent on the older door, and wheels, etc.
Some people are just numb.