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Title: SES Light
Post by: dbolen3 on August 27, 2016, 03:09:58 pm
I have a 1987 R10 2wd with a 305 TBI with 165,00 miles. I am trying to figure out why I get the SES light on after I have driven my truck for about 25-30 minutes. Sometimes it will cause it to run rough and other times it will be fine, but every time I get to where I am going and cut it off it will reset and be gone. I have no issues with power or any kind of smoke, just trying to figure it out without changing a bunch of parts and spending money that I do not have.
Title: Re: SES Light
Post by: hatzie on August 27, 2016, 03:25:48 pm
Do you have access to a laptop?  You really don't need much of a laptop to run TunerPro RT or WinALDL.  They will run under Windows XP.
You can still buy surplussed Dell 620/630 or Dell 820/830 laptops running Windows XP that are capable of Assembly Line Diagnostic Link communication for around $100. They use $50 Lithium Ion batteries that are plentiful and easy to find. Several brand specific and generic OBD II packages will even run under XP.  You just need a USB 2.0 port and the interface module.

Plugging into the ALDL port when the SES lights and listening to the data while the error is still present is the easiest way to get a picture of what's going on.
Title: Re: SES Light
Post by: VileZambonie on August 27, 2016, 05:33:10 pm
Use a paper clip to at least check for DTC's. Jump the A+B terminal in the DLC.
Title: Re: SES Light
Post by: hatzie on August 27, 2016, 06:07:46 pm
Use a paper clip to at least check for DTC's. Jump the A+B terminal in the DLC.
Does that work when the codes are not persisting through an ignition cycle?

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Title: Re: SES Light
Post by: LTZ C20 on August 27, 2016, 08:53:30 pm
It should.
Title: Re: SES Light
Post by: bd on August 27, 2016, 11:51:15 pm
Most codes are not volatile and should store in memory.
Title: Re: SES Light
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on August 28, 2016, 07:50:56 am
Come on, more detail !!! ;  Some of us are not mechanics and did not work at a GM dealership.  Not attacking or anything ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkpPSbJhh7s

There is another good one detailing how to get codes with a paper clip but i can't find it now.
Title: Re: SES Light
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on August 28, 2016, 07:51:42 am
Come on, more detail !!!  ;  Some of us are not mechanics and did not work at a GM dealership.  Not attacking or anything ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkpPSbJhh7s

There is another good one detailing how to get codes with a paper clip but i can't find it now.
Title: Re: SES Light
Post by: Irish_Alley on August 28, 2016, 08:26:19 am
cant watch the vid right now. but what about this
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=29949.0
Title: Re: SES Light
Post by: VileZambonie on August 28, 2016, 09:09:28 am
Come on, more detail !!! ;  Some of us are not mechanics and did not work at a GM dealership.  Not attacking or anything ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkpPSbJhh7s

There is another good one detailing how to get codes with a paper clip but i can't find it now.

This has been detailed here and across the internet countless times. There's no need for every time someone asks a question to go into "GREAT DETAIL" and even though some of us are/were mechanics you don't need to be to use a paper clip. If you are so inclined to fix it yourself you will put forth a little effort and either ask for more detail or use the search function. So Come On, is it really necessary that we literally spoon feed? This took 30 seconds of effort:

http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=32624.msg276593#msg276593

http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=32687.msg277620#msg277620

http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=32687.msg277579#msg277579

http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=19769.msg162104#msg162104

Google:

https://www.google.com/?ion=1&espv=2#q=how+to+retrieve+dtc+GM+obd1


Title: Re: SES Light
Post by: philo_beddoe on August 30, 2016, 07:14:44 pm
Come on, more detail !!! ;  Some of us are not mechanics and did not work at a GM dealership.  Not attacking or anything ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkpPSbJhh7s

There is another good one detailing how to get codes with a paper clip but i can't find it now.

This has been detailed here and across the internet countless times. There's no need for every time someone asks a question to go into "GREAT DETAIL" and even though some of us are/were mechanics you don't need to be to use a paper clip. If you are so inclined to fix it yourself you will put forth a little effort and either ask for more detail or use the search function. So Come On, is it really necessary that we literally spoon feed? This took 30 seconds of effort:

And i'm a classic example of that, i end up having to study books, this forum, and watch videos to figure out how to do things. Usually i panic and go crying to VZ, then after about 50 texts he gives me the silent treatment (lol) and thats when i know its time to buck up and figure things out, and i thank him for that.