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Title: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: SouthernBrandt75 on September 10, 2016, 07:51:06 pm
So I have a 1986 1 ton six pack with the 454. I want to remove the emissions and let this girl breathe but have no idea where to start. Any helpers? Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: zieg85 on September 10, 2016, 08:16:39 pm
what is a 6 pack?
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: VileZambonie on September 10, 2016, 09:07:32 pm
Post pics of your engine compartment so we can see what you have.
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: LTZ C20 on September 10, 2016, 10:53:39 pm
what is a 6 pack?
I think he means 3+3 crew cab.
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: Irish_Alley on September 11, 2016, 07:11:06 am
what is a 6 pack?
I think he means 3+3 crew cab.

ive only heard military guys call these six packs before.
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: 80Chevy4x4 on September 11, 2016, 07:42:51 am
The only six pack I have for a vehicle was the six pack manifold.....3 x 2 barrel carburetors. (plus beer)   LOL 
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: LTZ C20 on September 11, 2016, 01:04:02 pm
what is a 6 pack?
I think he means 3+3 crew cab.

ive only heard military guys call these six packs before.
Maybe he's military.
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: roundhouse on September 13, 2016, 06:19:21 am
The emission stuff isn't really hurting too much
A good tune on a dyno by a competent tuner will help a lot


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Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: SouthernBrandt75 on September 13, 2016, 11:51:09 am
Yes the 6 pack is the 3+3. Military supporter but unfortunately never served. I will get some pics here shortly.  Thank you.

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Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: SouthernBrandt75 on September 13, 2016, 12:00:54 pm
Here ya go
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: SouthernBrandt75 on September 13, 2016, 12:05:07 pm
The last picture is a question also.  What is that?  Thank you in advance.

Trey
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: zieg85 on September 13, 2016, 12:22:56 pm
The last picture is a question also.  What is that?  Thank you in advance.

Trey
windshield wiper motor
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: zieg85 on September 13, 2016, 12:25:53 pm
If you strip all of that off, do yourself and others put a quality set of headers and carefully remove it.  A lot of that is NLA and worth $ to someone needing to meet emission compliance.  Without it, it won't pass the sniff test because of no catalytic convertors
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: SouthernBrandt75 on September 13, 2016, 02:42:26 pm
But of course my friend.  Not a hacker. I hope this is my daughter's first car.  It's already very sentimental and with every mod it will be even more.  Thought that was the wiper motor.  Gotta rewire.

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Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: VileZambonie on September 13, 2016, 05:58:27 pm
All of the A.I.R. system components including the air pumps, plumbing and exhaust manifolds will certainly clean things up but as said, tag it and bag it. Those parts are worth hanging onto for if you ever sell the truck. Good quality exhaust is a great place to start spending your money.
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: SouthernBrandt75 on September 14, 2016, 05:39:30 pm
Thank you vile and zieg you guys have been awesome. Best forum ive been on so far. For anything not just Chevy trucks.  Thank you again
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: SouthernBrandt75 on June 03, 2017, 11:09:10 pm
If you strip all of that off, do yourself and others put a quality set of headers and carefully remove it.  A lot of that is NLA and worth $ to someone needing to meet emission compliance.  Without it, it won't pass the sniff test because of no catalytic convertors
Hey there me again. So when i take the air pump off it seems to be that the belt only works it. is this correct? also yes i need headers i know. just a hard sale to the wife lol. Thank you in advance
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: ehjorten on June 06, 2017, 11:16:50 am
If it is a 1-ton, 454, why does it have air or cats?!
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: big_al273 on June 06, 2017, 08:12:44 pm
If it is a 1-ton, 454, why does it have air or cats?!

Good question, last summer i looked at an 86 GMC C30 cab and chassis with the 454 and sm465 and it also had the air pump and lines into the manifolds. My guess would be that the emissions stuff was put on the trucks setup for unleaded gas as until 90 or 91(i believe, could've been later) you could order heavy trucks (10,001 lbs GVW and higher) with a Carb that was setup for leaded gas and I've seen an 88 square body cab n chassis with a factory carb in person so they did/do exist.
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: Irish_Alley on June 06, 2017, 10:17:18 pm
cali trucks still had them. my 91 1 ton with a 350 had at least the cat. not sure about egr or air
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: ehjorten on June 07, 2017, 08:39:10 am
Must be a Cali rig then.  My 1991 V3500 with the 454 did not have Cats and hence, no Air Injection.
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: Irish_Alley on June 07, 2017, 02:57:59 pm
yes still had the cali emissions sticker on it. i know it didnt have an air pump but i want to say it had an egr. or at least i think i would of noticed it missing. i know the exhaust shop didnt want to touch it cause i still had the cat in place when i told them i wanted to straight pipe it. i tried to tell them diesels back then didnt have cats but they said if it came from the factory like that they had to keep it.
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: big_al273 on June 07, 2017, 10:41:12 pm
Must be a Cali rig then.  My 1991 V3500 with the 454 did not have Cats and hence, no Air Injection.

i think it must be some other deciding factor because my 88 V30 1-ton crew cab with the TBI 454 IS NOT a California truck (came from Minnesota and may have been ordered through a government contract similar to the CUCV contract)  and it still has the air pump, egr and a cat on it.

Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: Dr_Snooz on June 07, 2017, 11:13:27 pm
My Cali '86 454, C-2500 has AIR, EGR and NO cats. If you can believe that.
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: SouthernBrandt75 on July 22, 2017, 07:43:07 pm
My Cali '86 454, C-2500 has AIR, EGR and NO cats. If you can believe that.

Yup mine doesnt have the cats. And now it doesnt have any of that emissions crap..MMMUUUAAAHHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Emissions delete....heeeelllllppp
Post by: rameye on August 01, 2017, 04:51:48 pm
Im in a similar boat-- I was querying my local inspector/mechanic about my new wreck (1987 V-10) and he said in this area after 20 years there is no emission requirement, told me I could pretty much go hog wild. I did some searches on this board about removing the smog crap.

Still have some unanswered questions--

 If I go for some shorty headers with an 02 sensor bung welded in..will the computer post a code??

 Does the computer monitor the smog pump or anything else in the system??

 Any other pit falls??

 I plan on keeping the parts handy..got the belt situation figured out..  Im assuming the 02 sensor will tune the TBI accordingly

 Many Thanks