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Title: Led
Post by: redhot1.4 on October 13, 2016, 03:17:12 pm
Whos running led lights ? I drive my 78 52 miles round trip to work. My headlights gotta go or It won't last long, I'm going to wind up hitting dears yes dears they thrive around were I work because they are protected or pigs lol
So who's got some good ideas on lighting up the road in these old trucks

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Title: Re: Led
Post by: 80Chevy4x4 on October 13, 2016, 04:00:30 pm
look at my build thread.
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=33392.msg283730#msg283730

I have Led headlights with a blue halo...i love them at night...The original 7 " round headlights wern't cutting it.
Title: Re: Led
Post by: Irish_Alley on October 13, 2016, 04:08:01 pm
i know we have some other people who have swapped headlights and whatnot use the search but heres some
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=31120.msg261376#msg261376
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=29609.msg247672#msg247672
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?action=search2
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=32924.msg279844#msg279844

also the jeep 7" round headlight will fit into our round headlight
Title: Re: Led
Post by: 80Chevy4x4 on October 13, 2016, 04:10:07 pm
Irish...speaking of the search...i seem to always have a hard time looking for different things...i try to type all sorts of different phrases but it seems like nothing works.
Title: Re: Led
Post by: Irish_Alley on October 13, 2016, 04:24:14 pm
i use the search button right next to "home, form, store and help" sometimes if i use the one in the upper right it seems to not work as good
Title: Re: Led
Post by: 80Chevy4x4 on October 13, 2016, 04:27:37 pm
i use the search button right next to "home, form, store and help" sometimes if i use the one in the upper right it seems to not work as good


I have tried both....... I guess i need search for dummies....LOL
Title: Re: Led
Post by: bd on October 13, 2016, 05:24:07 pm
i use the search button right next to "home, form, store and help" sometimes if i use the one in the upper right it seems to not work as good


I have tried both....... I guess i need search for dummies....LOL

Keep the number of search words to a minimum and click on "Show results as messages."  Listing the poster will also help if you're looking for a specific thread.
Title: Re: Led
Post by: Irish_Alley on October 13, 2016, 06:04:06 pm
dont include small words like "the" i searched for "l.e.d. headlight"
Title: Re: Led
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on October 13, 2016, 06:44:23 pm
Grote has them for about $230:

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/gte-90951-5/reviews/?sortReviews=Newest

i'm with you in that yes, i am going to have to go with led pretty soon.  Although i may have to do one side at a time. :-[

In the meantime Sylvania Silverstars may be a good comprise at about $25 each.
Title: Re: Led
Post by: werewolfx13 on October 14, 2016, 01:51:57 am
I STRONGLY discourage Sylvania headlights,  ESPECIALLY the silverstar line. They put out LESS light than their standard or Xtravision lines. They are an xtravision bulb with a blue filter = less lumens, in a more glaring, less effective color. If you buy sealed beam, buy GE. I loathe the fact that my employer has switched to carrying nothing but Eiko and Sylvania headlight bulbs.

My 76 k20 has a pair of Koito 7" h4 flat lens housings with real osram 75/65 h4 bulbs. Koito's are difficult to come by, occasionally Daniel Stern, http://danielsternlighting.com (http://danielsternlighting.com) can get them. He does keep Cibie housings, which are nearly as good as Koito, for about $20/unit less. Rebuild your headlight harness using at least 12 gauge, preferably 10 gauge wire, quality relays, and ceramic sockets. I added a pair of inexpensive steel "off road light" housings that will fit a par 46 sealed beam or h1 cibie housing, used the high beam switch lead to activate a relay for them as well, using GE h5001 sealed beam lamps. The headlights have a nice flat light cutoff on low beam to reduce glare to oncoming traffic, but the high beam set of the h4 and sealed beams in the driving lamps gives me a very focused, much brighter high beam that covers further down road and further off the sides of the road (such as a dark 2 lane highway), than *ANY* vehicle I've ever been in. I'm looking forward to the Cibie par 46 replacements for the sealed beams in my driving lights. Just not looking forward to shelling out another $200 by the time I buy bulbs.
Title: Re: Led
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on October 14, 2016, 02:13:51 pm
i would like to AMEND my position regarding headlights to state that i think Sylvania Silverstars are a vast improvement over what i was running previously which were Wagner halogens from probably 1996   ;)

i look forward to adding ALL led lights to my truck.  Not just the headlights but all---marker, tail, turn signals etc.
Title: Re: Led
Post by: ehjorten on October 14, 2016, 04:49:07 pm
I've got the GE Nighthawk LEDs in my '77.  Been in there for about 3 years.  Work great!
Title: Re: Led
Post by: redhot1.4 on October 14, 2016, 10:48:15 pm
Thanks for the advice guys. What do yall think about these. And I didn't want to spend alot of money(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161015/b868ed294c4dbff0d0fbc0d9943493f4.jpg)

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Title: Re: Led
Post by: werewolfx13 on October 15, 2016, 12:00:59 am
I don't hold most halo replacements in high regards, as their optical quality is often suspect, while they may produce (with the help of whatever bulb you put in, spend some money on GOOD quality stuff here, no sylvania, eiko, or wagner) a lot of light, it may not be well focused and end up creating a very false sense of security, and/or blinding other drivers. You could try them, but in my opinion, if you want a budget upgrade, buy good basic GE sealed beams and save money for a set of hella, cibie, or koito headlights and Osram, Flosser, or Narva bulbs, or a quality set of LED headlamps such as JW Speaker Evolution 2's, although their price point is horrendous for what you're buying, IMO.
Title: Re: Led
Post by: redhot1.4 on October 15, 2016, 12:11:42 am
I don't hold most halo replacements in high regards, as their optical quality is often suspect, while they may produce (with the help of whatever bulb you put in, spend some money on GOOD quality stuff here, no sylvania, eiko, or wagner) a lot of light, it may not be well focused and end up creating a very false sense of security, and/or blinding other drivers. You could try them, but in my opinion, if you want a budget upgrade, buy good basic GE sealed beams and save money for a set of hella, cibie, or koito headlights and Osram, Flosser, or Narva bulbs, or a quality set of LED headlamps such as JW Speaker Evolution 2's, although their price point is horrendous for what you're buying, IMO.
Thanks do I have to order online or can I go to local auto zone or something.  I thinking of going that way. Idk anything about lighting

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Title: Re: Led
Post by: 80Chevy4x4 on October 15, 2016, 07:49:45 am
Thanks for the advice guys. What do yall think about these. And I didn't want to spend alot of money(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161015/b868ed294c4dbff0d0fbc0d9943493f4.jpg)

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those are just like the onesw i have...the nice thing is it says an h4 bulb but you can't find them...it is actually a 9007 i believe...i will have to double check...i replaced the bulbs in mine with even stronger bulbs.
Title: Re: Led
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on October 15, 2016, 04:20:45 pm
I don't hold most halo replacements in high regards, as their optical quality is often suspect, while they may produce (with the help of whatever bulb you put in, spend some money on GOOD quality stuff here, no sylvania, eiko, or wagner) a lot of light, it may not be well focused and end up creating a very false sense of security, and/or blinding other drivers. You could try them, but in my opinion, if you want a budget upgrade, buy good basic GE sealed beams and save money for a set of hella, cibie, or koito headlights and Osram, Flosser, or Narva bulbs, or a quality set of LED headlamps such as JW Speaker Evolution 2's, although their price point is horrendous for what you're buying, IMO.

i would like to further amend my position regarding headlights:  i have failed automotively AND put the general public, and myself in danger by using sub-standard lighting, specifically Wagner and Sylvania.

i ask for forgiveness and consideration.

My plan for improvement:

 Due to financial and time constraints i will first research, and if feasible and practical, the installation of a relay system for the headlight circuit;  i hear this really brightens up the stock headlights.

Then as finances allow i will switch totally to LED headlights;  i have Grote specficially in mind.

 ;)
Title: Re: Led
Post by: redhot1.4 on October 15, 2016, 09:12:22 pm
Can you change just the bulbs in our headlights or do you have to buy a whole new headlight I can't remember and I'm at work other wise I would simply go check it thanks. I'm browsing amazon getting ready to buy something maybe a light bar and some new led bulbs

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Title: Re: Led
Post by: 80Chevy4x4 on October 16, 2016, 08:41:31 am
All I had to do was grind just a little bit of metal off the back of the headlight mount where the plug is located...but other than that it fit perfect   :)
Title: Re: Led
Post by: werewolfx13 on October 18, 2016, 12:28:35 am
GE headlamps are not often found at parts stores, definitely not autozone, o'reillys, or carquest/advanced, but you *MIGHT* find them at a Napa, as many are still independent. Just search on Amazon for "GE H6024" if you want to look online. You want the Standard ones. Yellow box.

For replacement housings and bulbs of any quality, expect to go online also. For the cheapest option for fair quality, HELLA 002395801 Vision Plus lamps are decent quality, for around $75/pair. Bulbs I buy from http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/). Drop him an e-mail, give him an idea of what your budget is, what you want to accomplish, and what exact vehicle you are wokring on and how it will be used, and see what his recommendation is. He may come up with a budget friendly idea, or have a recommendation for an upgrade path that you can take a little at a time.
Title: Re: Led
Post by: redhot1.4 on October 21, 2016, 07:53:48 am
GE headlamps are not often found at parts stores, definitely not autozone, o'reillys, or carquest/advanced, but you *MIGHT* find them at a Napa, as many are still independent. Just search on Amazon for "GE H6024" if you want to look online. You want the Standard ones. Yellow box.

For replacement housings and bulbs of any quality, expect to go online also. For the cheapest option for fair quality, HELLA 002395801 Vision Plus lamps are decent quality, for around $75/pair. Bulbs I buy from http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/). Drop him an e-mail, give him an idea of what your budget is, what you want to accomplish, and what exact vehicle you are wokring on and how it will be used, and see what his recommendation is. He may come up with a budget friendly idea, or have a recommendation for an upgrade path that you can take a little at a time.
Thanks man . Very good information I'll be upgrading my headlights very soon

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Title: Re: Led
Post by: VileZambonie on October 23, 2016, 08:47:20 am
I put LED's in my K20 for a few reasons. One being that I put a relay harness in and there was no difference. The voltage drop was less than .2V difference at best and two being that this truck has a phantom grille. I drive this truck very rarely at night but when I do it's awful because of the lighting. Since the grille does impact the lighting I decided to go with LED. I would never run LED's in a daily driver though, they are way too bright to oncoming vehicles. I'll post a few before and after pics. I replaced them on a dark rainy night to really see the difference. Pictures are as is, no filter.

Click Here http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=5095.105

Title: Re: Led
Post by: redhot1.4 on October 23, 2016, 08:50:08 am
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=5095.105
That's just what I'm looking for
If you don't mind me asking what did that set up run you

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Title: Re: Led
Post by: VileZambonie on October 23, 2016, 09:55:53 am
About a hundred bucks
Title: Re: Led
Post by: redhot1.4 on October 23, 2016, 10:13:44 am
Thanks

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Title: Re: Led
Post by: redhot1.4 on October 23, 2016, 10:14:39 am
About a hundred bucks
We're did you purchase the lights. We're they just bulb replacement or headlights and all

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Title: Re: Led
Post by: VileZambonie on October 23, 2016, 04:52:36 pm
I bought assemblies and 4 spacer bushings. The buckets are removed and I just mounted them where the top adjusters would be.  Like I said there's a phantom grille in front of these otherwise I would get ones that fit inside the buckets. They sell ones that look stock but take an LED insert.
Title: Re: Led
Post by: VileZambonie on October 23, 2016, 04:53:07 pm
I got them on eBay
Title: Re: Led
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on October 23, 2016, 04:57:31 pm
i'm getting ready to replace all the lights on the truck with led's starting with the marker, turn and tail.

Can you help guide me?

1) Is it a simple plug and play with no modifications necessary?
2) What are some good, hi-quality brands?
3) Is it harmful to only switch a few at the beginning, eventually switching all.  This includes headlights.
Title: Re: Led
Post by: VileZambonie on October 23, 2016, 05:06:26 pm
1) Yes but polarity matters so make sure they are not in backwards if one does not light up.
2) Buyer beware. Best deals are on eBay but look at their feedback and warranty terms.
3) Balance the load especially considering the flasher for signals and hazards.