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Title: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on July 13, 2007, 05:46:34 pm
I took my GMC out for a rip and it's ticking on the rh bank. Hopefully it's just a rocker arm adjustment but you could feel it too. If I find anything worse I'm gonna pull the whole engine out and repaint my engine compartment along with the engine. I'll post pix later if I find anything catastrophic (sp)
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: Captkaos on July 13, 2007, 06:04:41 pm
that stinks.  Hopefully it is just a rocker nut backing off.
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: 123 pugsy on July 13, 2007, 08:12:16 pm
Hope for the best. :-\
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: cjtimp on July 14, 2007, 07:54:32 am
Hope its not  bad..............
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on July 14, 2007, 11:39:21 am
#2 Intake was the ticker. I adjusted the lash quite a bit which make me suspect the lifter is starting to go bye bye or the cam is losing a lobe. It's oiling so I'm gonna change the oil but I have to wait to run it til I get some new VC gaskets on Monday. Hopefully it'll be ok cuz I don't have the time to rip this thing apart right now...
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXdy14cHRXZGd2c2M)
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: Captkaos on July 14, 2007, 09:18:27 pm
Is it a solid cam?  I have had my 454 do that after sitting for a while with those jam nuts, but it was solid.
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on July 15, 2007, 12:08:30 pm
No hydraulic
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: ccz145a on July 22, 2007, 10:14:15 pm
I just read the other day that those jam nuts might back off if the stud is irregular and the nut does not solidly seat. It was in the "How To Build Max Performance Chevy Rat Motors" By Ed Staffel c1996 page 117.

Good Luck.
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on November 23, 2007, 06:57:29 pm
Well I just went out in my garage and turned on the furnace. Came back out it musta been 80° in there! ;D God I love my garage! Anyway I pulled the VC's back off and popped the intake and valley pan off. I took a closer look at #2 intake while rotating the crank and sure enough the lifter and the cam lobe are smoked. I knew it because this isn't the 1st Edelbrock cam I've had fail so use heavy zinc oils people. So anyway I proceeded to rip everything out and am going to go through the engine again and give it a nice new make over.
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: DirtyLittleSecret on November 30, 2007, 02:04:06 am
Gad that sucks VZ. 
You gonna finally step up to a 383? ;)
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: 123 pugsy on November 30, 2007, 05:19:43 am
Gad that sucks VZ. 
You gonna finally step up to a 383? ;)


Don't you mean downsize? ;D
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on November 30, 2007, 10:12:29 am
LOL

The motor is out and on the stand and ready for it's 10 year makeover. Just the cam and lifters I bought were about $650 bucks..  :o

I decided to ditch the factory AC BOX and try one of those delete boxes rather than spend time fabricating one since I have so much going on. I'm working on getting the engine compartment looking real nice again so I can plop that pup back in there. After that it's time to start chopping the rear suspension! I'll post pix of the engine build and everything else when I have some good progress...
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: JJSZABO on November 30, 2007, 11:18:50 am
Sux on the lifter and cam. 
Looking forward on the pics.

The motor was 10 years old before this happened?
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on November 30, 2007, 03:45:35 pm
I bought the truck and it had the original 454 in it. I pulled it out and put in a built 350 that was to take it's place while I built the BB. After I built the 454 I put it back in and have been tearing it up with it ever since. Lately I have been averaging about 300 miles a year with it. The constant sitting and lack of good quality oils is what did it in I believe. I am also retrofitting to a roller cam and lifters this time around.
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: Fordeatinz71 on December 01, 2007, 01:52:10 pm
that's cool that you are adding the roller cam/rockers.  should help longevity and give ya a little more power out of that beast!  on a side note, got any good pics of the whole GMC?  sounds like quite the little street rod
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on December 01, 2007, 09:10:54 pm
I already have roller rockers I'm putting in a roller cam and lifters. The engine has to be bored and I have to locate the same style pistons. Luckily I have a TRW catalog that I can hopefully find a match. Anyway I just finished ripping it all apart. The bottom of the lifter blew out and that's why it ground up the cam. Thanks to my dog for all the technical assistance.... What a Saturday night! lol

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXVVBvdnEyMFF1NVE)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXRFFBbm0zaG1ybkk)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXaTJMRm9mWkhqeDA)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXRjRTYVlNbGJFQmM)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXUUVBcFlmcV9qTVU)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXNUZJZFFmVGFLc1U)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXcEhWLUc2aGR3VEE)

(https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXMHl3SVMwTmRJSFE)
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: nova801428 on December 01, 2007, 10:12:36 pm
Nice.  Looking really good.  What else are you going to do to it?  I heard the crank shafts are like 100lbs or so...was it heavy? 

Mine's bigger ;D
(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x285/Trevor2500/IMG_1674.jpg)
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on December 01, 2007, 10:34:02 pm
Bigger what? Boat anchor? Did you just put a picture of a FORD engine in my post? I am about to delete this whole thread....
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: nova801428 on December 01, 2007, 10:38:29 pm
If you would like I will remove it.  Yes, it is pretty much a boat anchor.  I was going to use it as a project but I decided not too.  It is a 460, being bigger than a 454, but you could have bored yours and what not.  I was just making a joke.
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on December 01, 2007, 10:44:58 pm
I know I was kidding... The 460 is a slug no worries
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: nova801428 on December 01, 2007, 10:49:19 pm
Alright, you were starting to scare me there for a little bit :'(
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on December 01, 2007, 10:52:28 pm
 ;D No way! I'm not like that! I appreciate all of em...just don't mind how I X'd out MOPAR on the box in my pics and put a bowtie over it =P
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: nova801428 on December 02, 2007, 12:41:43 am
lol....I didn't even notice that ;D
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: JJSZABO on December 02, 2007, 09:52:30 pm
Hey Vile, What does the prelube system look like?

I wish I had a little of your knowledge, when it comes to motors :)
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on December 03, 2007, 06:26:55 am
http://www.king-cart.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?store=autoenginelube&product=Engine+Pre-Lube+Kit&exact_match=exact (http://www.king-cart.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?store=autoenginelube&product=Engine+Pre-Lube+Kit&exact_match=exact)
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: JJSZABO on December 03, 2007, 08:09:30 am
Thanks Vile,

I have a Ford Expedition (no flames please) that gets very little use and that would seem like a good idea for it.
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on December 03, 2007, 09:57:37 am
oil prices go up and the quality goes down. You really need to do as much as possible when you are spending mad coin on an engine to keep it nice n fresh. The pre-lube system only helps avoid dry starts so I figured it was a worthwile investment. Not so sure how much it will make a difference on a daily driver but something that sits a lot will surely benefit.
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: nova801428 on December 12, 2007, 12:18:24 am
How the bb doing?
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on December 12, 2007, 06:40:55 am
Great! The cylinder block is being bored right now along with the new pistons being put on the rods. I just finished porting the cylinder heads and am going to clean up the valves and seats again. Once I get the block back it's time to start re-assembly. By this weekend I'll have some fresh new pix  ;D
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: DnStClr on December 12, 2007, 11:51:07 am
I know you're using a new cam, but just wondered- can that old cam be cleaned and refurbed or are they just  junk?
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: Captkaos on December 12, 2007, 03:04:32 pm
If the lifter looks that bad, the Lobe on the cam is shot.  You wouldn't want to reuse it.
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on December 12, 2007, 06:16:56 pm
Regrinding cams is pretty much a thing of the past. Besides it isn't the cam that's so pricey it's the roller lifters for big blocks that are mucho denero
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: nova801428 on December 12, 2007, 09:46:40 pm
Anything dealing with an engine is pricey.  Looks good.  I can't wait to see the pics.  Don't rush though. 
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: VileZambonie on December 18, 2007, 07:21:52 pm
Update:

Got the block back from the machine shop - bored and hot tanked
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXcE5BSk14ZFo4MU0)

New pistons on the rods
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXb3VuZlp3V2NncVk)

Then I put in the cam bearings
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXMEFURktzblQtR2s)
(https://drive.google.com/ucid=0B8yVwIOnwzXXcXJVXzd1SG5QRnM)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXMTF6dDJ5MGg4ZGs)

Then the core plugs
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXWDBmODFSTGVDZEU)

Put the crank in and plastigauged it
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXUld3NnZhMkJNd1E)

Check the ring gaps and then plastigauged the rods

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXd0psNGlXNUR1RW8)

Next my I did a 3 angle valve job and my g/f back cut the valves 30°s...then she polished and masked the valve covers for paint while I finished porting and cleaning the heads

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXdGZfOTNSdkduSUE)

I had the machine shop pick up the heads and resurface them and had them machine down the guides to accommodate the smaller valve seals. I'll be getting the heads back tomorrow and can start to reassemble them then check my combustion chamber volume after resurfacing. I'll post more pix as I progress
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: JJSZABO on December 18, 2007, 07:44:32 pm
Looking good :)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 123 pugsy on December 19, 2007, 05:01:37 am
Looking good.  ;)
 Is that gasket glue you use for the freeze plugs?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 19, 2007, 10:01:06 am
I use Aviation on all freeze plugs and galley plugs

(http://www.bulonquilmes.com/_gUpload/productos/257.jpg)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: ccz145a on December 19, 2007, 10:40:31 am
Quote

Good info, no telling what you'll pick up here. I have always used the Indian Head (http://www.permatex.com/images/DisplayImage.asp?210|/images/ProductPhotos/20539.jpg).

I see now that Aviation has the higher temp range. Thanks. ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 19, 2007, 07:36:21 pm
Valve covers:

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXSWRsdXFnU3F1R2c)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXeGJjQkw3My1ELVk)

I got the heads back from being resurfaced and the guides being machined down to accept the smaller valve seals. I will start measuring and reassembling the heads tomorrow.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: jonkmbll89 on December 19, 2007, 07:48:43 pm
Good looking valve covers. ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: nova801428 on December 19, 2007, 08:13:47 pm
+1...those are nice :)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Fordeatinz71 on December 19, 2007, 08:20:14 pm
+2, really good work on those valve covers.  i'm gonna have to customize some when i do my engine swap...i know it's a 350 CHEVY engine, but i don't want a GMC with Chevy valve covers (it has some nice chrome Chevrolet valve covers now).  so i either want it to say "GM", 350, GMC or something to that effect.  i like what you did with the 454 emblem and just the GM oil cap...looks really good. 
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 19, 2007, 09:52:17 pm
Thanks, I wanted I a GMC oil cap but couldn't find one. I may or may not keep the GM one. It's tough finding cool GMC lettering. Everything has the bowtie and there's nothin worng with that but you're right, if it's a GMC it shouldn't have bowtie's over Chevrolet everywhere...
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Fordeatinz71 on December 19, 2007, 10:29:06 pm
exactly!  it is really hard finding GMC stuff though, you're right...but i like being a little "different"
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 123 pugsy on December 20, 2007, 04:34:31 am
Nice covers! Your g/f's alright. ;)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 22, 2007, 11:16:38 am
Last night I degreed in the cam and installed a block protector and needle bearing cam button. I gauged it just right to my timing cover with the gasket installed using a mock up clay mold.

The heads are all reassembled with the proper installed height. Comp Cams has a nice shim assortment kit that worked perfect for that.

My next step is to install the rockers and paint the block & heads. Once I get it all painted up I can finish the assembly! YAY I suppose I better start Xmas shopping after that  :P

Here's a few pix

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXR051aGdwWEF2LU0)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXVTVkTTdtUi1lNjg)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXNHVVMUpvLUF6Tjg)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXbmNzM0lBVDRFSFE)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 123 pugsy on December 22, 2007, 11:30:08 am
Coming along nice.  ;)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 22, 2007, 04:00:10 pm
Thanks!

Today I did some painting

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXaldYY0M0d1AtYUE)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXRHlqYjc5b19wYTQ)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 80stepsideguy on December 22, 2007, 04:12:54 pm
Hey vile,
got as question on your motor.What year is it 1st, and what it roughly cost you(i hate to ask that ) on rebuilding it?I got a chance to pick up a 1983 454 with only 1k on it and it needs a head gasket for 500.00 This sound good as a price?If i get it (which i think i will) you reccomend using a set of 049 casting heads on it?I think the motor is stock but i like to give it more of a beefy sound.I dont know what kinda cam is in it all i know its a 1983 motor and its missing the brackets for the alternator,power steering and water pump(which i got all brand new NOS).

thanks
pat
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: jonkmbll89 on December 22, 2007, 06:24:44 pm
Looking good. ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 23, 2007, 07:29:29 am
Thanks.

It's the original engine in my 74 GMC. My head castings are 781's which I was able to enlarge the ports by a TON. I wish I took before and after pics of how much porting I did on these heads. I couldn't see spending over $2k on a pair of heads when I could make these ones work just as good. I put new guides in, eliminated the valve rotators (you'll need rotator eliminators), I put in Manley valves 2.19/1.88 the stock size are 2.06/1.72 but you can have them machined to fit the bigger valves, I also back cut the valves 30°, 3 angle seat, milled the heads, got a set of valve springs that matched my cam's recommend open and closed pressure and installed them at 1.880". So making the heads work for you takes a little elbow grease but can save you some serious coin and get similar results. The 049 castings are good heads just require some time and patience. $500 bucks sounds like a good deal to me! As far as the total cost on this build? I'll let you know when I total up all my receipts.... for now I'm going to go finish putting this sucker back together...
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: cubicdollars on December 23, 2007, 07:59:31 am
Looks Great  ;D

Is that the .250 dome piston from TRW?  I built that almost exact combo a couple of years ago for my stepside you'll love it.


Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 23, 2007, 10:30:13 am
The domes are .265" and I was concerned about the combustion chamber clearance especially since the overbore. So I mocked everything up with the headgasket in place and gauged my pushrod length at the same time. The pushrods need to be about .720" shorter and the pistons do contact the head so I'm going to pull it all back apart again next week after Christmas. I'll have to cut a small amount in the left upper corner of the dome. (Had to do the same with the old pistons) Kind of a bummer but I was hoping since the domes were slighlty smaller than the old pistons they'd clear. No such luck so I'm going to have the machine shop do it so all the pistons are equal and weigh the same. Besides one slip with the grinder and your screwed. I'd rip it all apart today but I have so much going on and nothing will be open til after Xmas anyway so on to Xmas shopping =P lol

The paint came out really good hard to tell from pix

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXalRweVM2X3VnZEk)

Here's where the piston needs to be ground

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXU01QYkUyRGpBX1k)

Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: jonkmbll89 on December 23, 2007, 10:55:23 am
You can see the shine on that block. ;D Looking good.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 27, 2007, 07:07:44 pm
OK pistons are all back in and clearance is good. Installed the damper and pointer. I'm waiting on the pushrods I had to special order and then I can check my piston to valve clearance. Keeping my fingers crossed that it'll be safe otherwise I'll be ripping it all back apart again  :P

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXM0RvTlNmTHl1akk)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXSEVIcklTR1QxbVE)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXMm40VVJlLXNJNlE)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: jonkmbll89 on December 27, 2007, 09:07:45 pm
Nothing like some shiny chrome. Nice! ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 29, 2007, 01:47:52 pm
I had to make a franken lifter to mimick the roller as a solid so I could measure my piston to valve clearance

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXSVFMZ2hsUHk5Njg)

Used some clay and it passed
(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXWXNjY1FRNW1OY0k)

So I did most of the finish work

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXMDdHempsUmdGVDg)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXdVRIQlhIQkhrb0E)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXZXU1TXJXVlNTWlE)

Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: jonkmbll89 on December 29, 2007, 02:53:52 pm
That motor looks gooood! :o I also noticed that your pretty organized with your tools and your shop. ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: locdogg on December 29, 2007, 04:34:07 pm
that's pretty! 
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: the dan on December 29, 2007, 04:42:31 pm
if that is a jegs timing cover:

i had serious problems with the balencer seal, the hole for the seal was not positioned to the crank and pushed the seal .010 off from the crank on one side. ive gone threw a seal a month in the past 3 months, and think maybe you should check youts just in case.  Also, the seal that came in it spun out and was resting on the balencer , though all the new felpro ones fit tight, it still didnt solve the .010 off that the circle was

Hope its not a jegs and/or that you dont have the problem i did

Engine looks beautiful by the way ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JRConnieK10 on December 29, 2007, 05:29:42 pm
Looks sweet can't wait to here it run .Heck yeah sweet garage,Tim the Tool Man would be proud (drool).
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 123 pugsy on December 29, 2007, 06:28:28 pm
That engine is absolutely gorgeous. That damper has to come in handy. Sweet!
Hey ,where's the drool smiley? :P
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Captkaos on December 30, 2007, 12:43:27 am
Looking SWEET Vile!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Dragon on December 30, 2007, 02:08:39 am
 :o Wow Extremely Envious Right Now! Especially Lovin the Finned Covers!! 8)  Just curious, not going to run an external Oil Cooler or even a dual remote filter setup for Extra Capcity, and to help extending the life of that Mammoth ???
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 30, 2007, 08:44:54 am
Thanks everyone!

It's not a Jegs timing cover.

I have extra capacity with that oil pan. No remote filter, one good filter is plenty (notice the cheap filter on there now though for break in) and I'm not fond of any external cooler lines that could potentially fail. That's why I hate those mechanical oil pressure gauges too.
For some reason  my pix keep coming out distorted. I'll try to fix...
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Captkaos on December 31, 2007, 10:49:25 am
Pics look find on my side.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 31, 2007, 12:57:00 pm
It's weird it's like the colors get distorted after I post them. Oh well.... I have to plane the intake manifold and then portmatch it to my heads. I have my engine compartment stripped, wheel wells out harness out etc so I can powerwash and repaint. After that it's good to drop back in  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JJSZABO on January 01, 2008, 12:44:48 pm
Looking good Vile  ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Dragon on January 01, 2008, 01:07:05 pm
Thanks everyone!

It's not a Jegs timing cover.

I have extra capacity with that oil pan. No remote filter, one good filter is plenty (notice the cheap filter on there now though for break in) and I'm not fond of any external cooler lines that could potentially fail. That's why I hate those mechanical oil pressure gauges too.
For some reason  my pix keep coming out distorted. I'll try to fix...

Understandable reasoning there, especially the mechanical oil pressure gauges...
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 08, 2008, 12:07:29 pm
Engine is ready to drop in. The engine compartment is all cleaned up, painted and rewired. Tomorrow I'll hopefully have it sitting in place and start hooking in everything. I'm hoping by the end of the week to be able to turn the key  ;D

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXWWlPYWFJdkNEZFk)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Captkaos on January 08, 2008, 12:17:50 pm
Looking SWEET!!!  Makes me miss mine running...
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JRConnieK10 on January 08, 2008, 12:49:23 pm
SWEEET, Looks awesome.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: ccz145a on January 08, 2008, 01:14:55 pm
You are truly an inspiration to us all. Man, that is sweet!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Redneckchevy on January 08, 2008, 01:25:13 pm
I dont no what to say...I look at my engine then i look at your engine and i cant help but to cry lol
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 08, 2008, 03:48:08 pm
Thanks - Believe me I have been working my butt off on this project. Once I get this all done it'll be on to the suspension, fuel cell and then repaint the whole truck (hopefully for the last time)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: The Beast on January 08, 2008, 03:54:44 pm
awsome looking, i wish i had the time to pull my 350 and clean it up.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Redneckchevy on January 08, 2008, 05:04:43 pm
lol when u own a great truck like these the work is never done...Always some new mod coming on the market....All ur hard work is worth it!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JJSZABO on January 08, 2008, 05:16:17 pm
Thanks - Believe me I have been working my butt off on this project. Once I get this all done it'll be on to the suspension, fuel cell and then repaint the whole truck (hopefully for the last time)

Vile, how many times have you painted it?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 08, 2008, 05:26:24 pm
Once. The truck was baby blue originally when I got it. I believe someone before me had it painted baby blue all the way because it was originally blue and I white if I remember. I painted it black but that was 10 years ago...
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 123 pugsy on January 08, 2008, 05:42:29 pm
Lookin great!   ;)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: jonkmbll89 on January 08, 2008, 07:28:26 pm
If your work on the truck is as good as your motor than your going to have a fine ride. Looking great. ;D ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Fordeatinz71 on January 08, 2008, 11:00:11 pm
man that motor is a work of art...err, Vile  :o
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JJSZABO on January 09, 2008, 07:17:25 am
man that motor is a work of art...err, Vile  :o

I agree Nice Job!!!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 09, 2008, 09:57:54 am
Thanks! It's hanging on the chain now...Soon it will be back home  ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: nova801428 on January 09, 2008, 09:12:47 pm
WOW, that is so nice.  Very very nice.  Do you do your own painting or does someone do it for you?  And, if you don't mind, how much does it cost?  Thanks
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JJSZABO on January 10, 2008, 07:46:04 am
NOVA, I am currently painting my 86 c-10.  I am painting each piece off the frame before putting it back together.  So far in paint I have spent around 1200.00.  The cost is just not the price of the paint.  You have the epoxy (or acid etch primer) and catylist.  Then high build primer, for smooth panels and it's catylist.  Then the sealer coat with catylist (in my case it's reduced epoxy).  Then the price of base color paint with reducer (if using color coat and clear - single stage paint is a little cheaper).  Then the clear with it's catylist.  Then the equipment to spray it, tools to do body work and all the sand paper and elbow grease for the sand paper. ;D 

Over all cost for tools, sandpaper and chemicals 3000.00 roughly.

All the experience gained in learning to do body work and paint - PRICELESS!! ;)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: nova801428 on January 10, 2008, 09:38:07 am
That's really not that bad.  You could spend way more for a quality paint job...and now you'll have the tools and the ability to do it.

Also, what size of air compressor do you use?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JJSZABO on January 10, 2008, 10:22:37 am
sorry, Vile, don't want to hijack this thread :) 

Compressor size, 80 gallon, 7hp, two stage.  I think the "working" hp is 5hp.  I can put out 13.5 scfm at 90 psi, enough for my needs.  It runs constantly with my pressure (pot) sand blaster.  That's the only tool that taxes it.  If you need more info, PM me or we should start a new thread - I don't want to take from Vile what is his. 

 

Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 10, 2008, 07:34:32 pm
Don't worry about it...post away.

Then engine is back in it's nest and I'm redoing all of the wiring nice. Looking real good. I took the headers outside and scrubbed them down with acid and they actually came out good so I'm not going to bother re-coating them. If I get everything put back together tomorrow I may be able to fire it up!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JJSZABO on January 10, 2008, 08:06:39 pm
Cant wait ;)

How about a video of it running?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Fordeatinz71 on January 10, 2008, 09:02:00 pm
heck yea, i'd love to hear that beast growl.  i bet that thing has a guttural roar!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 11, 2008, 10:23:42 pm
Well I just buttoned everything up...at least enough to fire it up........1st click of the key and boom she was screaming!!! It's ALIVE IT'S ALIVE! LOL Will post a few pix and a few vid clips if they came out ok in a sec!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Fordeatinz71 on January 11, 2008, 10:35:05 pm
congrats man, that is AWESOME!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 11, 2008, 11:39:20 pm
1st start



Don't mind the quick crappy videos I just wanted to get done. Been going since 5:30am and it's now 12:40 am so I'll post better pix/ vid's later


*could not recover videos from poop-bucket
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 80stepsideguy on January 11, 2008, 11:57:05 pm
Man that sounds awesome and i love them wheels on that truck too.Looks great.

thanks
pat
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Redneckchevy on January 12, 2008, 12:33:52 am
When u crack down on that throttle is was like a crack lighting!
I dont no what im more jealous of...your truck or your shop lol
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 12, 2008, 12:49:21 am
Thanks! That crappy little vid doesn't do it any justice. I don't want to get too silly with it yet since it was just reborn but once I take it out and change the oil, wrap up all the loose ends there will be some tire fryin goin on. It winds up so fast, what a difference roller cam and lifters made. Worth the $$$. I also went .100" more valve lift .640"
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Redneckchevy on January 12, 2008, 01:00:46 am
Id sure say it was worth every penny...Cant wait to see the tire fryer in action!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: nova801428 on January 12, 2008, 02:11:00 am
I'm getting the impression that you could take your truck apart and put it back together being blind folded and your hands tied behind your back... ;D

Truck looks good
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: jimmy38fan on January 12, 2008, 08:55:31 am
Where did you get your tailgate trim?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 12, 2008, 09:12:02 am
Where did you get your tailgate trim?

My tailgate is the original 74 tailgate that came w the truck. The stainless louvered band I can't remember where that came from but I've never seen another one.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JJSZABO on January 12, 2008, 02:39:40 pm
WOW!!!!!!!!!!

Nice work - good to see it back alive ;D

Videos are great!!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Captkaos on January 12, 2008, 02:54:20 pm
Sounds SWEET!!!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Fordeatinz71 on January 12, 2008, 07:28:32 pm
oh man that truck as a whole is so BAD!  and that engine is beyond words...sounds so killer...i want my truck to have that lopey idle...it won't sound JUST like a BB, but it can have a rough idle like that and still sound really good...
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 123 pugsy on January 13, 2008, 07:16:11 am
Nice! ;)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: jonkmbll89 on January 13, 2008, 12:23:31 pm
Sounds great! ;D :o
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JRConnieK10 on January 13, 2008, 04:05:46 pm
Man, that sounds nasty. In a very good way.  I'd like to see pics of it in, like a jewel in a box. Nice job.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 86 chevy silverado on January 13, 2008, 08:17:16 pm
I've been dieing to do a hotrod 2wd truck. Sounds nice and nasty, what are you running for exhaust?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 14, 2008, 01:41:06 pm
Thanks! It's 3" aluminized from the headers back with 3" flowmasters
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: SUX2BU99 on January 14, 2008, 02:39:24 pm
Wow, wicked sound. What RPM was it idling at?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 18, 2008, 07:07:22 pm
In probably around 900.

Progress to date:
I've rewired the majority of the engine wiring with the exception of the heater wiring still. I installed the AC delete box and am hiding all of the wires. I'm also putting the blower motor resistor inside the cab as opposed to in the engine compartment heater box. I have to finish my fuel lines and install the new pressure regulator and gauge. I had a VDO gauge which is the 3rd one I've had that fell apart inside. Once that stuff is all done I will post some new pix. I also had to fabricate a power steering bracket since it wasn't lining up very well. Everything looks really good and once it's all buttoned up I'm going to start hacking up my suspension. :D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: nova801428 on January 18, 2008, 09:45:01 pm
What are you going to do to the suspension?  -Air ride? 

Your truck sounds REALLY good.  It is also VERY nice.  That is definitely one nice truck!!!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 19, 2008, 07:42:57 am
Thanks. I plan on narrowing the frame, 4 link...I have to save up a bit to fund the project. For now I am thinking I might try the lowering leafs in the rear or a flip. I have Belltech drop spindles in the front and lowering springs. The rear is just shackles but I'd like to drop it another 2 inches.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 26, 2008, 06:46:03 pm
Well today I finished up all the wiring. I took all of the heater/ac wiring and ran it back through the firewall. I installed the blower motor resistor inside the cab and it looks so much cleaner and nicer. I painted and put the hood hinges on and took it out for it's first initial run and all I can say is HOLY CRAPOLA! It stuffed me back in my seat so hard my back cracked  ;) It just launches and pulls pulls pulls! As I was fine tuning it I started to run out of gas so I have to go make a trip for some 100 octane. I did get to leave posi strips all over the place though  ;D As soon as I get a new digital camera I will post more pix and video's. I still have to adjust the valves a little, play with the timing and put my wheel wells back in. After that I'm gonna take a little break from this puppy to fix a leak on my harley and get that thing all ready for spring before I start doing the suspension.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: RSBAD454 on January 26, 2008, 11:47:02 pm
sweet ride, sounds great!!!!! I'll have to get sounds clips of mine once the weather clears up. 8)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Redneckchevy on January 26, 2008, 11:56:30 pm
I think ur truck would look good with a blower sticking out the hood ;)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JRConnieK10 on January 27, 2008, 12:24:23 am
I think ur truck would look good with a blower sticking out the hood ;)
At least a hood scoop right?  jus play'in. lol
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Redneckchevy on January 27, 2008, 12:34:36 am
lol...I go for the opposite of a "sleeper" look ...V6 granny tranny and a hood scoop ..tach and Hurst shift knob on a 4x4
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JRConnieK10 on January 27, 2008, 12:39:49 am
Redneck were is barberton? Is it up north?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Redneckchevy on January 27, 2008, 12:49:09 am
Town over from akron  im right next to 71...Just on the other side of ohio from ya...
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on February 09, 2008, 10:02:12 am
Just an update on the 74, I flipped the rear axle and lowered the truck 2 more inches in the front. Yesterday I aligned it and it came out perfect. 3.3° positive caster. I replaced the front and rear tires for better clearance and stance. Today I am replacing the steering box and installing the inner fenders. I still have to readjust the valves since I broke the engine in and I'm going to fix the steering column (loose tilt). Next weekend I am planning on starting the shortbed conversion. I'll post pix soon.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 79SHORTWIDE on February 09, 2008, 10:42:04 am
AWESOME truck Vile! I wish mine was that far along. Looks great, sounds great.
 Love the old school wheels. I've been looking for that style in an 18" for the rear and 17" for the front but no luck......
My stock 15" rallys don't clear my DJM drop spindles very well so I thought I might as well up-size--like McDonalds  :D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on February 09, 2008, 01:02:41 pm
Yeah they didn't clear on mine either so I had to re-shape the lower control arms near the ball joint and used front spacers. Unfortunately for the slots they only make em in 15" and 17" and no wider than 8". What's the point? I need 10 - 12" wide in the rear and 8.5" in the front and would love these in a 17"  >:(
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 79SHORTWIDE on February 09, 2008, 01:35:07 pm
Well, I see I'm not the only one that has hit a deadend searching for that size/type of wheel.
My fronts hit the spindle ears where the calipers bolt up. I ground them down a little but only enough to clear the factory Rallys until I get what I want. It seems that just about any brand wheel in an 18x10 or 12 is a small fortune. I haven't taken any hard measurements yet but it appears that a 18x12 MIGHT fit the rear with 6 inches of backspacing. One of these days I'll get to finding out.
Good luck with yours! It's looking awesome and sounds killer.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: RSBAD454 on February 17, 2008, 11:17:03 am
I have 3" bell tech spindles and my stock 15x8" rallys hit the lower control arms every time I turned sharp. I ground the a arms at first, but ultimately ordered a new pair of 7" rallys with 3.5" back spacing.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on February 17, 2008, 11:45:29 am
My fronts are 15x8.5" with 4" back spacing. I have the same spindles and you RSBAD454 I was able to make them clear no problem after I reshaped the lower control arm and added a set of these style spacers.
(http://customwheel.com/custom_wheels/images/wheelSpacers.jpg)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on February 19, 2008, 05:32:36 pm
Not totally done with the engine compartment cleanup but as it sits now...

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXRDBpYUxHTy1kd1E)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXU2RhZlpuZmVwLWM)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Captkaos on February 19, 2008, 05:45:50 pm
SWEET!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Redneckchevy on February 19, 2008, 05:53:48 pm
That is sweet....What else is there? that looks great just the way it is!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JRConnieK10 on February 19, 2008, 05:57:32 pm
Nice, very nice. Sure hope me drooling all over the pics don't cause it to rust.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on February 19, 2008, 06:00:46 pm
Thanks! just stupid little things. I need a little washer bottle and the one I got is slightly too big for the look I want. I am going to finish moving around the wiring harness and such. All stuff that can wait for a rainy day.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 123 pugsy on February 19, 2008, 06:25:44 pm


 Absolutely gorgeous! :o



Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on February 19, 2008, 06:27:01 pm
Thanks Pugsy! I forgot to take a picture of your slick expansion tank I have in there.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 123 pugsy on February 19, 2008, 06:41:46 pm
Thanks Pugsy! I forgot to take a picture of your slick expansion tank I have in there.

Hey cool. Lets see how she looks.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: jonkmbll89 on February 19, 2008, 07:06:47 pm
That is sweet....What else is there? that looks great just the way it is!

I agree! I wish my engine compartment looked that good. 8)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JJSZABO on February 20, 2008, 01:27:07 pm
BEEEEAUUUUTIFULLLLLL ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: SUX2BU99 on February 26, 2008, 11:48:51 am
Hey Vile, what did you do to paint the block? Regular primer and engine paint? I want to paint my new iron heads, so I picked up the usual engine paint but that's it. I really don't want this to peel or flake. What do you suggest?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on February 26, 2008, 03:57:41 pm
I've never had engine paint that doesn't peel so I don't use it anymore.

#1 the engine has to be CLEAN. Then wash it with some mild soap and water to get rid of any risidual degreaser, oil, parts cleaner etc. Then I usually wipe it down with some solvent like denatured alcohol or prep solv. I use a good primer and then I use...are you ready for this? Rustoleum! I reduce it with some good thinner and spray. Usually 4 coats and I let it cure for 24 hrs and if time allows a second coat. I never have peeling issues.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: SUX2BU99 on February 27, 2008, 03:03:09 pm
Wow, that's very interesting. You've used this method quite a bit and seen good results? If I recall, you don't drive your 454 a whole lot, but have you used it other times on more regularly driven trucks?  Maybe I'll take the engine paint back. I have some black rustoleum already!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Redneckchevy on February 27, 2008, 03:12:17 pm
Rustoleum hmmm..im going to try that this summer. :D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on February 27, 2008, 03:51:49 pm
I've built more engines than I can count and this is the method every single one of them gets for the last 12 or so years since I stopped wasting $ on engine paint that never seems to hold up as well. Expiriment and see what it does...
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: eventhorizon66 on March 04, 2008, 07:59:02 pm
Just curious.  What type of Rustoleum?  The high-performance enamel?  All the rustoeum I've seen says don't apply to surfaces that get hotter than 200 degrees.  My Duplicolor engine enamel is already chipping on my water pump (after getting whacked a few times with wrenches).  Also what primer do you use?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on March 04, 2008, 09:23:40 pm
I've had no problems even at the heads next to the headers

http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=158

I realize it's not classified as a high temp paint but like I said, I've never ever had a problem with it.

My buddy always uses this stuff on his engines and likes it but there aren't as many color choices

http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=104
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: SUX2BU99 on March 17, 2008, 12:45:49 pm
Here in Canada, we don't really have Rustoleum availabe but rather a Canadian-made similar product called Tremclad which is also a rust paint. So I bought some gloss black and it was real tempting to buy the high-temp version of that which is meant for BBQ's and such. But I restrained and got the regular stuff along with the primer. I hope it works well.

Any prep tips? I figured on either just degreasing and shooting it, or maybe giving it a once over with the wire wheel to create some adhesion goove.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on March 17, 2008, 01:11:16 pm
Degreasing it isn't good enough. Make sure once it's cleaned down to bare metal you do a final wash of hot water and soap. Once it's dry prime and paint.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on March 23, 2008, 07:24:01 am
Thanks Pugsy! I forgot to take a picture of your slick expansion tank I have in there.

Hey cool. Lets see how she looks.

Kind of a dark pic but here it is Pugsy

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXSWNuUUR1MnlWRFE)

here's the heater box, I hid all the wires inside the truck and relocated the relay and blower resistor to the inside heater box.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXOW9VSmxUNHpzbGs)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXeHp0bV9LckNDQmc)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 123 pugsy on March 23, 2008, 07:41:08 am

 Tucks in there nicely.
I'm drooling over that engine of yours. Looks fantastic! :o



Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: SUX2BU99 on March 24, 2008, 11:37:00 am
I love wireless engine compartments. The epitome of clean! I'm always looking at my engine thinking to myself which wires I can hide but they all seem necessary to be visible. Which wires did you hide, Vile? I know my gas sender wire goes across from pass to drivers side along the bottom of the fire wall as I had to replace it since it got burnt on the pass header. That wire could be hidden I suppose, but what else? Did you have to drill thru the fire wall at a few points and put gromments in to hide the wires?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on March 24, 2008, 01:29:17 pm
I hid all of the AC/Heater wires and vacuum hoses. I plan on also relocating the junction block and wiring harness on the top of the firewall. If I didn't have so many other things going on I woulda done it when I had the engine out but I figured I can play with that on a rainy day.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JJSZABO on March 25, 2008, 07:07:18 am
WOW!!  That looks GREAT ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 79diesel on March 25, 2008, 10:54:56 am
i would eat off anywhere in that engine bay :P awesome work
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bake315 on March 26, 2008, 02:23:03 pm
Wow.  That motor just pops like a great big diamond on a ring.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: SUX2BU99 on April 15, 2008, 12:19:54 pm
Hey Vile, I just primered one of my heads last night. I degreased it with Simple Green first and then went over again with some soapy water. I didn't wash them down though. I took a clean cotton cloth and wiped them down. I know that's not as good as but I was worried about hosing them down since the heads are assembled. Should I be?

Anyway, I took the time to mask off and cut around the machined header flange surface (which was a PITA) but looking back at how you painted yours I see you didn't bother masking off that surface. Does it need to be paint-free? And I stuffed some tape into the plug holes but I see you just put plugs in and painted over. Interesting.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on April 15, 2008, 05:27:26 pm
Yeah I painted right over a crappy set of spark plugs. You can mask the exhaust port flanges. Sometimes I do other times I don't bother. I've never had it cause a problem either way. As far as rinsing, you just want all solvent gone. Soapy water should be your final wash. After you wash it, dry it up with your shop air then prime. Once you have it assembled you'll have plenty of lubrication where it needs to be.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: SUX2BU99 on April 16, 2008, 11:15:57 am
Alright, good to know. I've got a different plan of attack for the 2nd head now.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 08, 2008, 06:38:44 pm
I just got off the phone with Summit and they're going to warranty everything except the crank and rods. I'll post details later.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: eventhorizon66 on December 08, 2008, 07:38:25 pm
So they'll cover everything except the costs you're most concerned about.  Well at least it's something.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bigkountry on December 09, 2008, 10:45:08 am
Did I miss something? What happened?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: eventhorizon66 on December 09, 2008, 10:58:40 am
Did I miss something? What happened?

Read through this thread: Current Official Calender Layout (http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=9974.0) (end of page 1).
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bigkountry on December 09, 2008, 11:08:34 am
Thanks eventhorizon66

Hate that this happened Vile, hopefully they will take care of it and she will rumble again soon.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 09, 2008, 02:06:01 pm
Oh it's just an unfortunate pita but I'll probably just end up resizing the rods and fixing the existing crank. The crank looked good still but I won't know til I measure it.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JJSZABO on December 09, 2008, 02:28:34 pm
Fate may be on your side Vile ;) 

Hopefully you'll be able to save that crank

Did you loose all oil pressure when it happened?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bigblue09 on December 09, 2008, 07:23:13 pm
beautiful! i wish i had the money or the place to do all that. the filler pannel on your tailgate did you make that yourself?? it sounds amazing.  ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 09, 2008, 09:49:55 pm
Are you talking about the stainless louvered one?

Oil pressure never flinched
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bigblue09 on December 09, 2008, 10:04:48 pm
yea that one thats cool. i would want it to be just stainless. it looks really good never seen that before.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 10, 2008, 08:13:40 pm
Here's where I stand tonight with a quick cell phone pic. Tomorrow my budy is supposed to stop over and I can yank the hood. Then I'm ready to pluck away

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXT0tnQzVTUDhPNWs)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: hotrod24 on December 10, 2008, 08:16:13 pm
you will have that thing running in no time what color is that on your block?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: eventhorizon66 on December 10, 2008, 10:23:26 pm
Cool, keep us posted.  You'll have to do a victory burnout video for us when you get it all back together.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bigblue09 on December 10, 2008, 10:25:34 pm
Quote
Cool, keep us posted.  You'll have to do a victory burnout video for us when you get it all back together.

yea i agree with him! ;D ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 11, 2008, 07:06:55 am
That's what I was doing when I heard that dreadful noise lol.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bigblue09 on December 11, 2008, 10:02:19 am
oh. that really sucks. how old is that motor??
Title: Re: The big Block is a tickin
Post by: Igosplut on December 11, 2008, 11:27:01 am
#2 Intake was the ticker. I adjusted the lash quite a bit which make me suspect the lifter is starting to go bye bye.

Since they removed a the ZDDP from oil (effective DEC 06) there has been a ton of cam problems especially with BB chevys (which tend to have a lot of spring pressure). Theres also entirely different ways to break new cams in too.....
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: eventhorizon66 on December 11, 2008, 12:54:07 pm
It's a roller cam, so no break-in issues.

OH, I see you were talking about the old cam, my mistake.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: SUX2BU99 on December 11, 2008, 01:03:21 pm
I read the other thread and man Vile, I'm sorry to hear you had that kind of trouble. As you as a tech as you are, it's still a big PITA to yank everything back out, tear down, rebuild, buy new gaskets and parts, reinstall, hope for no leaks, etc etc etc. I'm sure you are meticulous in your work so having to redo it has to be frustrating. You'll know that when it's all back together and giving that killer rumpity-rump-rump sound, you'll have a grin on your face :)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 80stepsideguy on December 11, 2008, 01:53:03 pm
Whats sad about this is vile just rebuilt this engine not to long ag oand totally went thru it.Now he has to start all over.Sorry vile i know it sucks man i went thru that in my 70 erts bodywork.I redone it 4 times and i`m ready to tear it apart in the near future.SO i hope this time you get more enjoyment out of that fresh rebuild then the p/o one.
thanks
pat
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Igosplut on December 11, 2008, 04:35:58 pm
I just got off the phone with Summit and they're going to warranty everything except the crank and rods. I'll post details later.

Just curious, Was the crank undersized, or standard?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 11, 2008, 05:36:59 pm
Steel crank .020" M & R

The reason for failure if I didn't repeat it in this thread is due to the oil pump pick up breaking. I've never seen anything like it and regardless had I stuck to my normal engine building techniques and not put my faith in a manufactured piece of crap I wouldn't be doing all this work again. For me it's more of a pita than anything else. But I'm gonna go out there and pop the headers off right now.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 11, 2008, 10:50:04 pm
I plucked it out again. grainy because they are cell phone pix but I'll have it on the stand and start rippin again this weekend

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXa2JEbmF4RWFlQms)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXbmJrVzF3dExGUzA)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JRConnieK10 on December 12, 2008, 08:08:59 am
Man you work fast. I would still be looking at it wondering if I wanted to start that yet. Just seems like I never have time to do anything. I don't think I've worked on anything in the garage in a couple months between things at home needing fixed, kids in sports my 6th grader just finished thier football season a couple weeks ago went through the playoffs and won thier superbowl then the other one goes right into wrestling. Dang I miss my garage know. Sorry I started rambling on your thread. Just like how fast you work kinda envious I guess.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 12, 2008, 08:58:40 am
Actually I felt like I dilly dallied (sp) way too long. I shoulda had it out right away. I plan on tearing it down this weekend. So I have a date with an engine and a case of beer
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: frogman68 on December 12, 2008, 09:04:14 am
Actually I felt like I dilly dallied (sp) way too long. I shoulda had it out right away. I plan on tearing it down this weekend. So I have a date with an engine and a case of beer

Is Broadzilla going to be jealous ?? :)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 12, 2008, 09:33:27 am
Well we broke up so I guess there's nothing to be jealous about.  :o

I just got off the phone with Central CT Coatings which 86 chevy silverado recommended and am going to drop my headers off for a fresh recoating since there is som eroad rash on the bottom near the collector and some rust busting through. $235 bucks to strip and recoat inside and out.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bigblue09 on December 12, 2008, 10:49:00 am
dang. thats kinda expensive. you could buy some new ones for that. lol
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 12, 2008, 12:06:41 pm
Not really, lol http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HOK%2D2826%2D1HKR&N=700+4294925073+4294908171+4294840133+4294908134+4294918680+4294880275+115&autoview=sku

Plus these ones fit like a glove and work nice.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bigblue09 on December 12, 2008, 04:36:44 pm
dang!!
ok i take that back!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 14, 2008, 09:32:53 pm
Well yesterday I pulled apart then engine and am dropping ordering the parts. The nice thing is I got to see how everything turned out internally from this build and I must say I am  very happy with it's break in and fitment. It'll be back together and in in no time :D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JJSZABO on December 14, 2008, 09:36:05 pm
Wow, so you lucked out?  No parts needed?

Glad to here it! ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 15, 2008, 10:14:17 am
No I'm just retarded and typo'd that post  :o I meant to say I am dropping off the crank and rods at the machine shop today and ordering the parts. Summit is paying for all of the parts less the crank and rods. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: SUX2BU99 on December 16, 2008, 12:36:42 pm
Nice. Even though the valvetrain and heads didn't seem to be affected, you still had to tear all that down too?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 16, 2008, 06:31:27 pm
Oh yeah. #1 I wanted to carefully inspect my entire build since I have the opportunity but the heads have to come off to pull out the pistons and connecting rods. I'm going to repaint everything again just to have a fresh look. I polished the intake today and it came out sweet! Basically it will all look the same but a little cleaner since I'm going to move around a few things too.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 23, 2008, 09:37:22 pm
Update:

I got all my parts from Summit. I got the crank, pistons and rods back from the machine shop. I honed the cylinders again and am planning on washing everything and starting reassembly. I should make some progress tomorrow since I got all my xmas shopping done  :-X
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Captkaos on December 24, 2008, 10:22:33 am
Sweet!  Round 2
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 80stepsideguy on December 24, 2008, 11:04:55 am
Hopefully this will be the final round  huh vile?
 
thanks
pat
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 24, 2008, 12:43:20 pm
lol Yes sir! Basically I've spent the last 2 hours removing the paint from the cylinder block. I want it back to bare metal for painting...Again!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 29, 2008, 09:27:56 am
*Update

The engine is all painted up again and is ready for complete reassembly. the headers are done also and I'm picking them up tomorrow. I'll post pix later. I'm hoping to have it all together and ready to drop back in this weekend RUNNING
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: BoobZ on December 29, 2008, 12:24:29 pm
i just got done reading this entire thread and i was so happy!!! untill that dreadful oil pump pickup decided to take a shoot..

right now im just amazed by your skills in this department.. i know how to rebuild an engine but you straight up shoot and get when it comes to doing so.. i wouldnt have enough time to do that in the amount of time you are..

keep up the great work and keep us advised..

btw i love the truck man.

-bobby
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 29, 2008, 06:49:54 pm
Thanks!

I just got done adjusting the valves. Tomorrow I will finish it hopefully except for the oil pan since I ordered a new one. I noticed the chrome is peeling inside the pan. Piece of crap so I ordered a powder coated one this time. Here's a few pix I took with my pathetic sony camera.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXM05jcWJ2aVdSUWc)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXVGRCRHZZTnNuUDQ)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: frogman68 on December 29, 2008, 07:34:01 pm
looks great

One thing though how do you keep your shop so clean? Cleaning Crew ??
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JRConnieK10 on December 29, 2008, 07:40:03 pm
Looks good. She'll be back up in no time.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: BoobZ on December 30, 2008, 04:06:56 am
im seriously thinking about a big block..

can you give me a price comparison between a mild big block and a mild small block chevy?   

i have a mild 355 in my truck right now but im seriously thinking about going 502..
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 30, 2008, 05:39:41 am
Much more expensive. Just go to like summit racing and select all of your parts and then look at your cart. There is no comparisson between small block and big block power though. It's a completely different animal. I wouldn't want a bb for a daily driver mainly because they suck down fuel like it's beer but for a toy  ;D Machine shop work will cost you about the same but parts are much more expensive.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 80stepsideguy on December 30, 2008, 10:29:31 pm
Vile,
can you give us a clip of the engine once its fired up and running so we all can hear the great sounds of that big block?

thanks
pat
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: eventhorizon66 on December 30, 2008, 10:32:07 pm
He's got a clip elsewhere on this thread.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 80stepsideguy on December 30, 2008, 10:49:26 pm
This is how i want my big block to sound like once i fire it up...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_QLAcXNSo0&feature=channel_page

thanks
pat
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 31, 2008, 07:45:47 am
First start no coolant in the block. Not good lol

Mine sounds pretty wicked, I will definitely take video's.

So I got the headers back $250 to get them stripped and recoated inside and out.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXVGRCRHZZTnNuUDQ)

Now I'm debating (with myself) which valve covers to run.

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXdkJscW9mS2xBWGc)

A)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXdkJscW9mS2xBWGc)

or B)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXbXktalhwcTFLTUU)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: roadrage41 on December 31, 2008, 08:08:26 am
B no question.

A looks like the cheap spectre valve covers from the 'zone compared to B.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Thermal Izod on December 31, 2008, 08:18:16 am
B looks a LOT nicer, though A isn't bad...I vote B.  Detail work is awesome
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Unofficial on December 31, 2008, 09:07:35 am
I like B too. But Vile, isn't starting an engine with no water/coolant in it provide a better seal with all the gaskets? I'm sure those guys know what they're doing and they wouldn't run it too long like that.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 31, 2008, 09:58:38 am
A better seal? I would never run an engine that long with no coolant in it. I would assume though they probably filled the block at least.

Also both of those vc's are polished aluminum. I'll let you guys decide for me how's that?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: frogman68 on December 31, 2008, 10:02:25 am
Go with B
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: ccz145a on December 31, 2008, 10:29:40 am
Go with B, then. But, A is so new and shiney. But, in a few months they'll be discolored a little, too. But B has the reliefs pained so handsomely ;D

Start a poll
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Novadiecast on December 31, 2008, 10:35:26 am
B without a doubt!!!!!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bigblue09 on December 31, 2008, 10:46:18 am
B!!   ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bfofish on December 31, 2008, 10:54:40 am
B     ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: eventhorizon66 on December 31, 2008, 11:05:12 am
Stick with (B).  But I see why it's a tough decision.  They're both purty.  And those headers came out real nice.  Can't wait to see all back together.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: BoobZ on December 31, 2008, 01:33:15 pm
guess ill just stick with my bored and stroked small blocks.. :)

id deffinately go B on the valve covers.. A looks like they were about $30 at O'reilly's.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: hotrod24 on December 31, 2008, 01:38:13 pm
yea i will go with B to i like the gm cap and the details  :)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: eventhorizon66 on December 31, 2008, 01:39:53 pm
A looks like they were about $30 at O'reilly's.

How can you say that?!?  They are the same covers, except "A" looks to have been very diligently polished.  They both look great!  Just out of personal preference, I like "B" better because they coordinate better with the engine.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: BoobZ on December 31, 2008, 02:02:28 pm
i guess im just not a fan of all chrome/polished look...

i have all chrome valve covers on my truck and i hate em.. i want to get some fabricated aluminum covers for it and it would set it off..

but i agree.. B because of the colors coordination..
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on December 31, 2008, 09:09:34 pm
Those are both polished aluminum and they weren't cheap. The only thing chrome on the motor is the breather, the waterneck and the pulleys.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JRConnieK10 on December 31, 2008, 09:25:40 pm
B. The added color really shows off all the rest of the polished alum. and chrome. The whole thing looks pretty awesome though. Great job.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 01, 2009, 09:56:33 am
Deja Vu

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXdDJvdTJqOVRsakE)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXdDJvdTJqOVRsakE)

I'm pretty much just waiting on the new oil pan still then I can plop it back in there.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: SUX2BU99 on January 01, 2009, 11:47:49 am
^ And there was absolutely nuthin' wrong with how it looked before the teardown. Go with the painted valve covers. It always looks WAY better when reliefs between cast fins are painted. Just that much more detailed.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 02, 2009, 03:33:21 pm
I went with the original ones so there's no going back now lol

One thing I hated about my original install was running the wiring harness back along the bottom of the cowl and the junction block. So I am going out there now to move it around and redo it.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 69byrd on January 05, 2009, 07:01:53 am
Both valve covers are sweet but I think the painted look better. Your engine looks great 8) You are gonna knock people out when you pop the hood!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JJSZABO on January 05, 2009, 08:51:58 am
I like B also.  Good luck on the rebuild  :)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: eventhorizon66 on January 05, 2009, 01:55:55 pm
He doesn't need luck, unless he's decided to try out a new method for securing the oil pump pickup tube. :P
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: ccz145a on January 05, 2009, 01:57:42 pm
"Luck is where opportunity meets preparation"

I heard that somewhere and liked it  ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 05, 2009, 03:12:41 pm
The rebuild is done. I'm still just waiting on the stupid oil pan. I have already fabricated a new pick up that will fit the pan perfect and won't break! lol You shoulda seen the look on my face when I dropped the pan. Disbelief! I cannot find the broken piece where the pick up bolted on. I was hoping to send it back to Summit to show them but I cleaned my whole garage and it's mia. Probably in a pile of speedy dry in the bottom of the garbage. Nevertheless the pan should be here Thursday so this weekend I'll be plopping it back in the truck and then back onto the body work.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 10, 2009, 11:39:26 am
OK Update. I finally got the new pan and pick-up and installed it all. I was planning on putting it in last night but decided to go out and take a break. Literally. I busted my foot and am on crutches and just got back from the hospital. So it looks like I'll be waiting to put the engine in until I'm healed up. Everything Looks great and is ready to bolt together. If I can hobble out to my garage later I'll take some pics. We have a snow storm coming and I don't know how I'm going to clear the snow  :'(
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: oldwhity on January 10, 2009, 12:08:10 pm
It'll melt. Let your foot heal. Get well soon. :)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JRConnieK10 on January 10, 2009, 08:18:40 pm
Sorry to here about the busted foot. Prop it up put ya a cooler beside your chair so you don't have to get up often and drink your medicine. But seriously just take it easy and give it time to heal right or it will bother you more in the long run.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on January 10, 2009, 08:54:01 pm
I like valve cover B.  I like that red, I been thinking about doing my small block red when I take it out.  Thought it might go with my interior if ya know what I mean.


We have a snow storm coming and I don't know how I'm going to clear the snow  :'(

That's what kids are for ;D

Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 10, 2009, 08:59:54 pm
Well my kid is my dog and I don't think he's gonna do a good job  :P I have a bag of frozen vegetables on my foot.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: oldwhity on January 10, 2009, 09:10:41 pm
Well my kid is my dog and I don't think he's gonna do a good job  :P I have a bag of frozen vegetables on my foot.
Are they peas? They conform better than broccoli. ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bigkountry on January 10, 2009, 09:17:56 pm
Hope the foot heals up, at least you have something to look forward to when it is better!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: hotrod24 on January 10, 2009, 10:12:25 pm
get healed up soon man  :)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: cubicdollars on January 11, 2009, 12:16:04 am
Hope you heal up pretty quick  :) Great job on the rebuild.

I had a pick up screen break off on one of my BBC's before it really sucks  :(

Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 11, 2009, 07:35:34 pm
Thanks everybody. yeah it was quite an annoying set back and busting my foot isn't helping either. I'm also supposed to go Wednesday for Lasik so who knows when I'll actually get it back in the truck. I took a percocet and it makes me feel good enough to go outside barefoot and get it all done lol  ;D but I know better.

Anyway here's a few pix

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXSU9PZzd5SlJNVWs)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXQWs3TGNubmowQnM)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXTEx1dk52MFQ0Um8)
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 12, 2009, 11:36:31 am
Tell me about it. I just took the hinges off of my mutt project, painted the cab floor and the firewall. I'm planning on plopping the engine in this week.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: DnStClr on January 15, 2009, 06:51:53 pm
Vile quit messin around in the garage and let your foot heal! You go messing around an you'll injure another part of your leg or knee. You won't like that at all. BTW- great work on the 454. I"m sorry about your foot. Now go lay down
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: oldwhity on January 15, 2009, 07:16:36 pm
That's too funny! ;D I got in trouble in 2005(from the wife) for doing the same thing. I flipped my zero-turn mower off the top of a retaining wall and into a river(low tide) the day before going on vacation. I recieved 8 stitches just above my left elbow on the outside and 42 on the inside with a minor cut on my achilles tendon of my left heal. I was back on that mower in 5 days with sling and all. :o :D It still has a bent rim. Looks funny when I'm rollin fast. I know it's hard to see nothing getting done, just take it easy.
Rob
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 16, 2009, 04:53:59 am
Yeah I'm tired of feeling like this already and I can't sit still. Last night I went out in my garage for 5 minutes and decided to just sit in the house and rot. I'm glad I did because I needed the rest.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: SUX2BU99 on January 16, 2009, 11:40:23 pm
Gotta admire your dedication man. lol Get well soon, as the old Hallmark adage goes!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 19, 2009, 07:30:45 pm
Well I got it all in yesterday and first turn of the key she fired nicely. Tonight I worked on building the fan shroud for the electric cooling fan. Here's a few pix

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXUmYwSUNYOU5wUWM)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXTVJsMmc4MXZYYlE)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXTVJsMmc4MXZYYlE)

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B8yVwIOnwzXXNE1mdVNBcFhjcDA)

I took a few videos which I'll upload later.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: JRConnieK10 on January 19, 2009, 07:34:25 pm
Man that looks so sweet. Again.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: murraygmc on January 19, 2009, 09:10:48 pm
love it just love it




Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: DnStClr on January 19, 2009, 09:41:56 pm
Wow. It's ready to roll again. The engine and bay look great, Vile!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: cubicdollars on January 19, 2009, 09:50:49 pm
dang that looks great  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: silvrbreez on January 20, 2009, 07:28:10 am
My dream engine bay.  Nicely done.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 69byrd on January 20, 2009, 08:03:13 am
Sweeeeeet!! 8) Thats all I can say.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: choptop on January 20, 2009, 08:10:54 am
Definately looks sharp.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: joesgarage71 on January 20, 2009, 10:29:04 am
 Looks great!
  I didn't read all 17 pages, but what did you paint on your core support? and did you use a media blaster/gun?
 Looks like whatever you used would hide alot of imperfections.
 
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 20, 2009, 10:30:51 am
Thanks guys. I removed the wiring and junction block from the firewall and have to finish routing and looming a few things. I added a power distribution block and the fan relay/thermistor for the electric fan. I am also going to install a new battery box.

As far as the finish on the radiator support, I used GM trunk spatter paint on the original shroud and painted it black and I used black paint and chip guard for the upper radiator supprt.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: joesgarage71 on January 20, 2009, 10:40:52 am
 I noticed that you used a sm block power steering pump, Did you make that adjust bracket? If not where/what year engine did they come from?
  I love those old Motion/Baldwin type Valve pans, the ones I have are cal-customs from the 70's
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: SUX2BU99 on January 20, 2009, 11:52:47 am
Mmmmm so purty! I thought the rad support paint would have been that hammer-finish stuff I thought you spoke of in another thread. Sure looks good though.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bigblue09 on January 20, 2009, 01:00:28 pm
looks really good sittin in there. good job. videos?!  ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 20, 2009, 01:09:18 pm
I noticed that you used a sm block power steering pump, Did you make that adjust bracket? If not where/what year engine did they come from?
  I love those old Motion/Baldwin type Valve pans, the ones I have are cal-customs from the 70's

I used a BBC pump & bracket assembly. I just had to cut bend and grind a little to make it line up.

Videos to come!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 80stepsideguy on January 20, 2009, 01:26:09 pm
Vile,
i got the brackets for a big block setup for power steering.Would i need a big block power steering pump or could i use the brackets to fit a small block power steering pump?Plus would a parts store carry just the pump?Just want to make sure oncei get to bolting the setup on i dont get fustrated n try to fanagle to make it work..

Engine looks awesome by the way, also i got a set of tall valve covers as well.Would they clear by the brake booster or do i have to go with a short style valve cover for clearance ?

thanks
pat
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: bigkountry on January 20, 2009, 04:58:35 pm
Man that is a pretty sight, glad you are getting it all back together!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: eventhorizon66 on January 20, 2009, 05:32:58 pm
Awesome Vile.  Glad to see you got it all back together.  And with a gimpy foot, too - what an inspiration.  Can't wait for the videos.  I bet it sounds much better with the pickup attached to the pump.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 20, 2009, 05:44:30 pm
Pat, I suppose you could make virtually any pump work. The pump I have is aftermarket. Still has the bolt on keyway design. you can get the pump at any autparts store. Either way you'll have to figure out something for brackets.

I had tall V/C's on my 83 K5 454. I know they fit but I think I had to R&R the booster get em in and out.

Thanks guys. I got the fittings to re-route my fuel lines and regulator but lost my motivation to do anymore work tonight. gotta rest my gimpy foot.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: oldwhity on January 20, 2009, 05:54:36 pm
Vile, that's absolutely beautiful! I think i'm going to enlarge one of those pictures and hang it in my living room. It would almost be like Frog's engine in his kitchen. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: BlueCollarRon on January 28, 2009, 02:17:12 am
I just read your thread, simply amazing Vile.  I have a lot to learn, great work.  Can't wait to see some more videos.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 28, 2009, 09:20:19 am
Thanks! It's been a fun project and as soon as this crappy weather breaks you'll see some slick videos. I can take a few more pix/videos later. My throttle cable snapped on me so I have to get another one asap.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: SUX2BU99 on January 28, 2009, 10:17:36 pm
I've been on this forum for almost 5 years now and I don't think I've seen a vid yet of your beast tearing up the street or doing a wicked burnout. Get this thing finished and let 'er rip, mang!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on January 29, 2009, 10:13:45 am
I never seem to have anyone around to record it when I do! lol Don't worry you will see more.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Jims86tpisub on January 30, 2009, 10:46:32 pm
Wow! Thats Really sweet!
If I was not in CA, I would put a 454 in my Burb.....But, Oh well!
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 80stepsideguy on March 21, 2009, 09:54:42 pm
Thanks everybody. yeah it was quite an annoying set back and busting my foot isn't helping either. I'm also supposed to go Wednesday for Lasik so who knows when I'll actually get it back in the truck. I took a percocet and it makes me feel good enough to go outside barefoot and get it all done lol  ;D but I know better.

Anyway here's a few pix



Vile,
what type of oil pan did you use on this project? And where did you get it from?I`m gonna get 1 for my stepside so i can have it in time once the motor gets done and built in about a week or so.

thanks
pat
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on March 22, 2009, 08:15:11 pm
I have an extra chrome one I'm not using. The chrome flaked a little on the inside. You want it?
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: 80stepsideguy on March 22, 2009, 08:24:59 pm
Sure how much you want for it?

thanks
pat
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: lincoln welder on March 30, 2009, 08:32:24 am
Nice lookin piece Vile,man thats clean. I dig the wrinkle finish on the core support ;) This is my baby, reborn feb 2009. Cant wait to fire'er up. Sure gotta long way to go to getter lookin as sweet as yours.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on March 31, 2009, 05:53:05 pm
Thanks man, nice valve covers too. Those look pretty slick. I'll have some videos of mine once the body work is done.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: Wili74 on April 28, 2017, 02:10:50 am
I can't afford the ac removal kit so I'm going to see if I can modify the condenser box myself. I'm wondering what you did with the controls with all the vacuum lines. You did a fine job, your engine compartment looks great.
Title: Re: 454 project
Post by: VileZambonie on April 28, 2017, 07:02:06 pm
I ended up completely removing everything again and decided to build a new firewall which has no protrusions.

You mean evaporator. Is the whole system in tact? Using a delete box does not mean you have to remove the controls.