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Title: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Bigtendude on March 24, 2008, 05:15:28 pm
Last saturday morning I hit an invisible evil in my pretty truck :'(.  The truck is repairable and I was not hurt.  But her nose is slightly crooked, frame is over about 8 inches to the right, from ahead of the steering box.  I have a good ins.co.  They are going to have an appraiser look at my previous pictures and my sales receipt from the purchase of my truck last June.  I was getting off one freeway going downhill on a ramp to another freeway, when some guy blew around me on the left, going about 55mph.  Then he started fishtailing, I thought he was going to lose it so I took my foot offa da gas, and then the merry-go-round started, around and around I went, and the a wall jumped in front of me and stopped me dead in my tracks, facing the wrong way from the direction I was going.  Heavy traffic was flowing pretty good, I got out of my truck and ran like the dickens uphill in fear that someone would hit my truck and drag it down the ramp and run me over.  Like I said, the truck is repairable, and my ins. company is getting an independent appraiser to value my truck b4 the wreck.  Nothing was leaking after I hit the wall and the engine and trans had no leaks either, and worked perfectly, because another male motorist helped me let the air out of the front tires so I could turn the wheels enough to get it onto the shoulder.   BTW, I do have full coverage insurance on it with a 500 dollar deductible......... here are some after effect pics...Larry
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: zieg85 on March 24, 2008, 05:33:09 pm
Glad you are OK.  Pretty truck.  If your insurance is a stated value type policy you will probably come out fine.  Hopefully it isn't totalled in the insurance companies mind.  I know around here if it is a total and you fix it, it can never have full coverage again.  The main thing is you are not hurt. 
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Post by: Blazin on March 24, 2008, 05:59:39 pm
Nice looking truck. Hopefully you will have it all prettied up again before long. Thats always the way, some other @^&*+&# causes the accident. I bet he straitened up and kept right on going?
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Post by: plowking_90 on March 24, 2008, 06:17:46 pm
poor truck, atleast your ok
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Post by: the_legend_1981 on March 24, 2008, 07:04:24 pm
Nice truck, at least it's fixable. A truck like that i'd find a way to fix it no matter what.
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Lt.Del on March 24, 2008, 07:16:44 pm
Yeah, buy it back from the insur company and fixer up...get a donor truck and swap the fronts.
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Bigtendude on March 24, 2008, 07:48:23 pm
I can buy truck back from insurance for 500 if they total it.
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Post by: 78BBSTEPSIDE on March 24, 2008, 09:06:20 pm
Glad you are ok, the truck can always be rebuilt or replaced, sure looked like a clean one though.
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Post by: dunedigger on March 24, 2008, 10:35:20 pm
Glad to hear you're ok, but man, kills me to see a good truck look like that.
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Post by: 79diesel on March 24, 2008, 11:00:51 pm
poor truck...what was she doing out in the snow anyway? glad to hear you are ok
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Post by: VileZambonie on March 25, 2008, 04:45:09 am
that sucks
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Post by: 123 pugsy on March 25, 2008, 05:42:24 am

 Ouch! :'(
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Bigtendude on March 25, 2008, 09:06:59 am
 I normally Don't drive it in the snow, as a matter of fact, there was no snow on the roads , they had been plowed and salted and were only wet.  My mother had a heart attack 5 days prior to my trucks demise.  I had stayed with my mother for 4 days after they let her go.  Just what any loving son would do.  It had snowed about 8 inches the night before, and we have an excellent county roads Dept. Here in Michigan.  They had plowed and salted the ramps really well, and ramps were just wet.   But, because that section of the ramp is elevated and the wind was blowing a bit 5 - 10 mph from the south the roadbed grew invisible ice.  My wife needed her car for Dr. App't's. When my mom was released from the hosp.  I told her I'd use my truck.  Well, after I got mom squared away, I decided to go home early in the morning to rid my drive and walks of the white snow.  My wife is disabled, and I just knew that she would be out there in the yard cleaning it up if I didn't get there soon.  And then that's when my world fell apart.  My wife (being a Taurus) is very STUBBORN, and was out there and had most of it done by the time the wrecker driver got me home with my baby in tow. My wife has very sever Crohn's disease and Rheumatoid arthritis,  she is paying now for what she did on Sat. she can hardly git around right now.  She was almost in tears, when she saw my truck.  The ins. guy is on his way right now to go have a look at my truck in the tow yard, I should know within a couple hours, of what they are going to or want to do.  If they give me what I paid for her and let me buy it back, I have a couple good 'ol boys that would like to buy it from me as is.  Hard decisions when you have no where to store it, and are not working, and have nothing to drive, and fuel is so High.  There is 40 gallons of premium gas in her belly, maybe I should buy my truck back and hold an auction for the gas that's in her belly?  Or sit on it, till it goes up to 15.00 a gallon.
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Bigtendude on March 25, 2008, 01:12:18 pm
$6000.00! C'mon man, gimme a break!  No parts available?  totaled for that price and reason.  Did not accept their offer.. will be sending pics, and receipts for purchase of truck to a middle person, trying to get more for it, and find out how much for buy back.  But, I have no place to store truck till I find parts, so I guess it will go to boneyard :'( :'( or auction resale.  I am so heartbroken and they are moving it further away from me to another yard that doesn't charge for storage for them, it will be 45 miles from me instead of 15 miles. :(. I told the adjuster about catalogs I have with all parts in it, he didn't appear to care.  So Long Ms. Blue, I'm sure gonna miss ya......... :'(
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: team39763 on March 25, 2008, 01:41:29 pm
$6000.00! C'mon man, gimme a break!  No parts available?  totaled for that price and reason.  Did not accept their offer.. will be sending pics, and receipts for purchase of truck to a middle person, trying to get more for it, and find out how much for buy back.  But, I have no place to store truck till I find parts, so I guess it will go to boneyard :'( :'( or auction resale.  I am so heartbroken and they are moving it further away from me to another yard that doesn't charge for storage for them, it will be 45 miles from me instead of 15 miles. :(. I told the adjuster about catalogs I have with all parts in it, he didn't appear to care.  So Long Ms. Blue, I'm sure gonna miss ya......... :'(

That's about what they gave me when I wrecked my wife's truck.  It was a 2000 GMC Sierra(about 100k miles).  We had 15k in receipts not including the price for the truck itself(12k).  We ended up just stripping off whatever we could - motor, exhaust, trans, cowl hood, stereo, and some small stuff.
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Captkaos on March 25, 2008, 01:54:14 pm
I don't know what the history is of the truck, but for $6000 that is a pretty good deal if you can buy it back for $500.
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: autorepr on March 25, 2008, 05:06:55 pm
Good Luck Brother! Stick to your guns and don't let em take your baby.
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Fordeatinz71 on March 25, 2008, 05:25:35 pm
oh man, i just read this whole thread and i feel so bad for you!  i hope all works out well for you...do you have any pics of the truck pre-wreck? 
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Bigtendude on March 25, 2008, 05:54:20 pm
yes I do.......
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Bigtendude on March 25, 2008, 05:55:35 pm
and one shot of interior......
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Post by: Fordeatinz71 on March 25, 2008, 06:45:21 pm
man she is beautiful!  i would love to have that truck if i were simply closer.  i'm really sorry about what happened...
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: 123 pugsy on March 25, 2008, 06:45:58 pm
$6000.00! C'mon man, gimme a break!  No parts available?  totaled for that price and reason.  Did not accept their offer.. will be sending pics, and receipts for purchase of truck to a middle person, trying to get more for it, and find out how much for buy back.  But, I have no place to store truck till I find parts, so I guess it will go to boneyard :'( :'( or auction resale.  I am so heartbroken and they are moving it further away from me to another yard that doesn't charge for storage for them, it will be 45 miles from me instead of 15 miles. :(. I told the adjuster about catalogs I have with all parts in it, he didn't appear to care.  So Long Ms. Blue, I'm sure gonna miss ya......... :'(


If they give you $6000.00 less the buy back amount, I'm sure you could get all the parts you need and a body shop to spray the front end for you. That is if you buy the parts yourself and tear it all apart and put it back together.


Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Bigtendude on March 25, 2008, 10:39:54 pm
I have done autobody and frame repair for 42 years and my body does not want to contort to those kind of positions anymore, I have no cartiledge left in my knees, a nasty belly hernia, and spine is twisted in two places.  Even if I could fix the truck I would be so sore I wouldn't move for two days.  I have osteoarthritis severly in both knees, that means it is degenerative, never gonna get better.  I am medically retired, and still fightingSoc.Sec. disability.  My lawyer told me that there is a two year backlog on disability claaims in Michigan.  I just saw an older dodge pickup for sale in the hood, will have to check it out tomorrow.  I used to own a 1971 D-100 that I sold with 399,000 miles on it, it had a 225cui. slant six in it.  Bullet proof motor.
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: 123 pugsy on March 26, 2008, 05:12:11 am
I have done autobody and frame repair for 42 years and my body does not want to contort to those kind of positions anymore, I have no cartiledge left in my knees, a nasty belly hernia, and spine is twisted in two places.  Even if I could fix the truck I would be so sore I wouldn't move for two days.  I have osteoarthritis severly in both knees, that means it is degenerative, never gonna get better.  I am medically retired, and still fightingSoc.Sec. disability.  My lawyer told me that there is a two year backlog on disability claaims in Michigan.  I just saw an older dodge pickup for sale in the hood, will have to check it out tomorrow.  I used to own a 1971 D-100 that I sold with 399,000 miles on it, it had a 225cui. slant six in it.  Bullet proof motor.

Sorry to hear that Bigtendude. I wish you all the best  and good luck with the Dodge purchase.


Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on March 26, 2008, 10:52:55 am
i don't mean to be nosey, but please update/explain the current situation----i am interested in insurance matters and will be starting a few posts of my own pertaining to the topic of insurance.

a) i don't understand the $6000 deal?



b)personally, assuming the alignment was unaffected, i would just drive the truck as is for a while.  Possibly try to straighten the hood a little.  But that's just me.

Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Dragon on March 26, 2008, 01:38:03 pm
Sorry about your Truck, hope your Mom&  Wife are doing better!  Beautiful Truck, and I would fight tooth & nail for her!! >:(  My first accident, the claims adjuster tried to only give me $500 for the "Book Value" of my car at the time, he told me to come up with receipts, and ads of cars similar, and he would adjust it from there....   I sent three weeks flooding his fax machine with all of my receipts, and ads of cars similar..  I was able to at least get it up to $2600, and get my car thrown back in for nothing..  Your truck is in much better condition, but they are still trying to give you "Kelly Blue Book" Value, which no car lot,auction house,loans specialist,mechanic,car buyer, or etc uses any more(Only Ins Co's) so the actual value can be off by alot....  Parts Availability wise, send him links to Chris Store,Year One, ,Classic Industries, and then some, give him plenty of ideas for how available parts are....

IF THAT US A NON CHARGE LOT THAT THEY ARE SENDING IT TO, LET THEM,BUT DO NOT LET THEM TOUCH IT, AND DO NOT SEND TO A SALVAGE YARD UNTIL YOU ARE DONE NEGOTIATING!!! Sorry for the yelling, but trust me, be serious about getting your truck back the way she was!!! Otherwise they will walk all over you, cause that's what they do!!!  When everything is said and done, you keep the truck if you want, then just pay whatever shop you want to fix it..  If they say they want their shop to look at it,agree, and then have atleast two other shops of your choice give you quotes on the repair....  When they agree to repair it, tell them that you want a check payment, and you will go to a shop of your choice(It's your truck, it's your choice as to who repairs it)...
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Bigtendude on March 26, 2008, 05:10:58 pm
The Dodge is a no go, just a rust bucket, and I am spoiled by vehicles I see in Fla.  And as for the home storage of the truck till I can fix it, I would have to take my fence down, remove the birdbath, take down clothes line, eliminate the picnic table, and move the bird feeder, and my wife says NO WAY!  However I have already sent pics ( 15 of them ) and copy of receipts when and what I purchased the truck for last June.  I also offered character witnesses of the condition of the truck ( pre - wreck ).   I do not know where the ins. adjuster got his parts prices from, if there are none available.  For whoever said they don't understand the $6,000.00 total out price.  They have to have a book or online price list of parts costs and labor costs.  A vehicle is totaled out when repairs are 80 - 85% of the vehicles fair value.  If you have a car worth $2000.00, and you wreck it, and to bring it back to pre accident condition, it is going to cost 1800.00 to fix, it is considered total out.  So I don't know where ins. got their parts prices from if none are available.  Sounds to me like someone else wants my truck very badly.  The frame is to the right about 8 inches, the sway bar is toast, now, I have done frame repairs with a redneck frame machine before, Maybe with 100 foot chain wrapped around big cottonwood out back will get wheel housings away from wheels enough, then I could drive it till I get all parts.  I am still going to fight for better buy-out.  I am not working and have no money, I have sold all the gold and silver I have found throught he years with my metal detector ( just to pay bills )  There is no extra in the budget to try and fix my truck.  If I can get it back really cheap, then it will be parted out or sold as is for parts.  I have a couple of good 'ol boys who are very interested in it locally. The Hartford ins. company uses N.A.D.A. to value vehicles and like I said before, they offered me 1500.00  and that is lower than a rotted out beater, the beater is worth $2,205.00 With A/C  So needless to say, they gettin' her cheep.  Also there's about 37 gallons of premium leaded gas in her tanks.
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Bigtendude on March 27, 2008, 10:58:19 am
Good News!  I just got off of phone with ins. company.  They are settling for 6,000.00 minus 500.00 deductible.  So I get my original price paid for back.  I cannot afford to fix her, so I am going to the yard tomorrow to get the rest of my stuff out and off of her. Whatever I can get away with, I am sure they are not going to let me remove the dash pad :(.  But I may be able to get away with the beauty rings.  Will be going to Fla. to purchase an S-10, V6, extended cab.
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: autorepr on March 27, 2008, 04:22:28 pm
I'll give you a $100 for the cab if you can sneek that out!
(I don't need the fenders or hood)
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Post by: Fordeatinz71 on March 27, 2008, 11:32:07 pm
well man, i wish you and your family the best and, even though you don't have your Silverado anymore, don't be a stranger!
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Bigtendude on March 28, 2008, 01:16:13 am
If anyone has documents to buy at salvage auctions,  My truck will be auctioned at;  21000 Hayden Drive....Woodhaven, Michigan 48183.  Their name is copart.  Their auctions are held every Tuesday at 12pm.  Their phone number is; 1 - 734 - 365 - 0070...Fax #1 - 734 - 365 - 0080.  Their website is.http://www.copart.com, just thought someone may be able to make it there.  It is in lot#8962658.  It won't be in the auction for April 1st. because I am not sending title to ins. company till I get my stuff out of it.   Insurance company said that as soon as they get title, they overnight it to the auction house, and I am not returning title till after I get my stuff out on Tuesday.  I am sure someone will fix her, and will probably get her for about 1500.00.  I was thinking today, I was in 2 bad truck accidents in 10 years.  In 1998 I was T-Boned by another pickup that ran a red light at 55mph in a 35 mph zone, He hit me in the pass. side "A" Pillar his truck got hung up in mine, and rammed me head on into a utility pole 100 feet away, I broke it off 35 ft. above the ground and had 4 - 4800 volt wires land on my fiberglass cap, I limped away.  But, from being jerked out of the shoulder belt, my head hit the upraised padded dash that was pushed to the roof. No broken bones, no sever bleeding, no internal bleeding.  Just big ole nasty bruise on chest where shoulder belt was, and one year after accident, I found out my spine is twisted in two places.  And in Mich. no lawyer would take my case, because You can't sue for more than 150,000 at the time.And this all happened  one block from home.  That truck was a 1985 F-150.  And now this wreck, yup I was wearing my belts again and only have a sore knee..  I have owned 5 full sized pickups in my lifetime, and only two of them have had a particular compass in them.  It is going to stay with my old truck, let someone else find out if it is jinxed the next time around.
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on March 28, 2008, 10:53:04 am
Pardon my ignorance, but i still don't get the $6000-$500 deal.  Are they giving you $5500 for the truck?

i think $6000 to fix is a bit of a stretch.  But if that is the cost of repairing the truck, then how much do you get?

i was out of town for the past two days, so it's probably too late now.  Personally, i'm not happy with the situation, but it is your choice.  i can understand about not wanting to fix it yourself due to health reasons;  If i stay in one position too long(i.e., bent over a fender), my back gets stiff and then i can't really work for the rest of the day.

i think it would be better for you to get a newer truck with airbags.
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Bigtendude on March 28, 2008, 11:04:02 am
The insurance company is sending me a check for $5500.00.  $500.00 more than I paid for the truck in June of last year.  And they keep the truck, as in my earlier post, it will be sold at an auto salvage auction.  The insurance company said it will cost 6000.00 to fix it, the company said there are no parts available due to the age of the vehicle.  But, I do not know where they got prices for non-existant parts. ;D.  Will have to call appraiser and ask him.  I am NOT trying to buy the truck back for various reasons.  Will purchase S-10 from somewhere in Florida with money I get for my truck.
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Lt.Del on March 28, 2008, 08:44:41 pm
you have had some bad luck...but not too bad, you are alive.  However, stay away from small vehicles.  You want to remain protected with loads of metal.
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Redneckchevy on March 28, 2008, 08:49:22 pm
An s10 is ok...I wouldnt drive one...But an ex...Drove one 55mph into a brick wall and walked away.....My truck tho would of smashed that wall like a wrecking ball...Then fall apart lol
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: 85MudMonster on March 28, 2008, 10:33:57 pm
I hope whoever buys your truck at that auction fixes it and then gets on here and lets us see, cause to smash that truck would be a sin that not even Jesus could save you from....I'm glad you are okay though, imagine if you where in a kia??
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: Bigtendude on March 29, 2008, 05:10:44 am
When I go to get the rest of my stuff out of my truck, I will leave a prepared note in the glove box, about this site, for the next owner........lol.  I accidentally removed the owner's manual on my initial grab of important papers from the glovebox, will sell back to new owner ;D.  Being that my career was as  an autobody repairman, I have had many good results repairing crashed S-10's, The owner survival rate is at least 95%. Also, they are very easy to fix, (that's in my opinion).  Also the used parts are very much so available, A good point!  I did body and frame repair for 42 years, about the only thing I haven't done something on is a Ferrari F1.......lol.  I have never worked on an S-10 that was involved in a high speed T-Bone (either side), those are the wrecks that never make it to the shops, I guess that accounts for the other 5%, of owner survivability.   I will still come to this site as I will Mr. Bowtie's site.  Also I have some extra parts that the previous owner so graciously gave me , when I bought my truck last year.  I have brand new in the box, a mechanical fuel pump, a couple of sets of front disc pads (new in the box)  a couple air filters (quadrajet size).  Original wiper blades with worn out rubber, the metal part is dull gray or silver color.  I have other odds n ends, and when I get to the yard where my truck is to get my stuff, I will remove the gold colored bowtie from the grille which I picked up from the accident scene, and bring that home also, it was not damaged, providing nobody is watching me, it is original white metal and in excellent shape.   Just PM me if you need any of these parts.  I don't know the brand name of any of these parts except the obvious Chevy ones.  have other small stuff, but, brain is foggy this early in the a.m. I will have to look, but I think I have a complete pair of front Parking lamp assemblies, lenses included, a pair of headlight bezels (metal with some pitting), but re chromeable, these are for a 1978, no Incorporated parking light holes.   Though I will still come to this site, I would like to thank all the wonderful, experienced, knowledgeable people who have ever provided,answered, or enjoyed the pics of my Detroit Iron, I THANK YOU ALL, VERY,VERY MUCH ;D ;D ;D ; ;)
Title: Re: Black Ice is Very Real
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on March 31, 2008, 08:35:50 pm
 :-X  I know how ya feel man!  I miss my 87.  i rolled it in July.  that truck was worth $8500 easy and all i got for it was $1800, so you're coming out on top in that respect compared to how i got reamed by the insurance co, glad you're OK though, I also had to go to driving the focus until i got my new truck...  the focus is OK, but i want my truck!  sorry to see another classic goto salvage.  You'll find another one though!  I did and you will too!  good luck man!


Kenny