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Title: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: blast on April 08, 2008, 11:47:50 am
I currently have a edelbrock carb on my 454 chevy motor.  It's acting up.  Not sure of the cfm, have to look it up yet.

I have a brand new 600 CFM Holley 0-1850 Carberator with vacuum secondaries and electric choke.

Is the 600 CFM Holley going to work on a stock 454 motor, at least till I can get a 750?
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: 75stepside454 on April 08, 2008, 02:25:46 pm
I think 600 might be a bit on the small size for even a stock 454. I would run at very least a 670 CFM holley. & no more than 750.  Im not sure what intake your using, if its something along the lines of a performer intake, the 670 would work good, even better with a 1" open spacer to give it more plenum volume
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: Redneckchevy on April 08, 2008, 02:39:21 pm
Id say i have a holley 670 on my V6! lol
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: Captkaos on April 08, 2008, 02:46:57 pm
Is it a stock 454, and you don't plan to spin alot of rpms?
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: blast on April 08, 2008, 03:51:19 pm
Is it a stock 454, and you don't plan to spin alot of rpms?

Yes, as far as I can tell, it is totally stock.

It has stock manifold, and most of the emmisions crud was removed.

It probably won't see a lot of rpms, mostly just putzing around in the woods, and some highway driving.
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: Blue 82 on April 08, 2008, 04:02:49 pm
I put one of SMI's Q-jet on my 350 4 weeks ago
I got the 750 stage II
they make an 800 also

http://www.smicarburetor.com/products/?sfID1=14&sfID2=9&sfID3=33
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: HAULIN IT on April 08, 2008, 05:37:25 pm
Blast, You will be fine with the 600, not enough for higher RPM's, but good enough for "puttin'"   
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: Captkaos on April 08, 2008, 06:03:14 pm
Ditto on Haulin' response.  You will be fine.
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: blast on April 08, 2008, 06:36:17 pm
Cool.  I'll put the Holley on then.

Good thing too, the Edelbrock is really bad today.  It ran fine two days ago.   This morning it idles fine, but put it under load, and it's constant dry spot and airry sounding, no power at all, then once in awhile a big squirt of power comes through and lasts for 2-3 seconds, then back to no power and airry sounding again.  I put a new fuel filter on, and no difference.  I could feel a small pulsation in the fuel line, so I think the fuel pump is doing something anyways.  The weather is high humidity today, was raining then turned to snow, so it could be the weather, but jeeez, not this bad.

I finally looked at the carb model number that's currently on there, it's a 1406, 600 CFM.  ::) 
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: Redneckchevy on April 08, 2008, 07:46:21 pm
Why cant u Take ur holley? And buy a Tuner Kit And up the Jets And up The pump pusher???   They come in a kit...Its easy to install
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: blast on April 08, 2008, 08:21:32 pm
Why cant u Take ur holley? And buy a Tuner Kit And up the Jets And up The pump pusher???   They come in a kit...Its easy to install

I might do that, I got a few Holley's laying around.


Here's a question, should I be able to pinch a rubber fuel line from the fuel pump to the carb with my fingers and be able to totally stop the fuel supply?  I can pinch off the rubber hose with my fingers easily while the engine is running, and I feel just a small frequent pulse.  I'm wondering if my fuel pump is failing.
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: VileZambonie on April 08, 2008, 09:48:12 pm
If it's really mushy I would replace it with a suitable replacement fuel line. If you think you have inadequate fuel volume, just pull the hose off the carb and disaable the ignition system. Crank the engine with the hose in a glass jar and observe how much fuel you get in 15 seconds.

As far as your 600 on a 454, be careful... if it's calibrated too lean you can ruin your engine. Make sure it doens't ping or start running hotter.
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: TexasRed on April 08, 2008, 10:39:22 pm
Usually stock, Holley's may run a lot richer. In fact, on a 454, it may even be more so since the booster signal should be higher. Take off the top of the edelbrock also and see if it's got a bunch of fine dirt in the bowl. Mine did that a couple times because this new "gas" was either picking up dirt in my gas tank or the tanks where I buy fuel.
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: blast on April 13, 2008, 12:40:21 pm
Just put the Holley on, and it works like a charm.

No dryspot whatsoever now, and I have all my power back under load.  ;D

Here's the funny thing, when I was emptying the gas out of the old Edelbrock, I found a cut off end of a ziptie in the secondaries.  ::)
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: VileZambonie on April 13, 2008, 03:07:22 pm
Zip tie eating carburetor eh? Glad to hear you got it running good. I've found lots of wierd things inside engines over the years. I once found a human tooth inside a transmission pan!
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: blast on April 13, 2008, 04:08:22 pm
Zip tie eating carburetor eh? Glad to hear you got it running good. I've found lots of wierd things inside engines over the years. I once found a human tooth inside a transmission pan!

Yikes, that's wicked.  :o  This is the first thing I've ever found, unless you count the bucket loads of dry sludge I'd find in the valley pans of olds 350 rockets.  ::)
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: Redneckchevy on April 13, 2008, 04:51:59 pm
 tooth huh....Im sure that had a story to go with it....Or some one was just being stupid....I found cement mix in the engine block of a LHS i had...
Title: Re: 600 CFM Holley big enough for a stock 454?
Post by: VileZambonie on April 13, 2008, 09:25:30 pm
yeah people do very weird things in life