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Title: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: 77IndyStepside on June 14, 2008, 07:14:29 pm
There are two lines coming out of the power steering pump - one of them has hose connections on both ends that uses just the screw down clamps that you can tighten with a screwdriver.  The other line coming from the power steering pump has a hose with another type of metal connector/fitting on both sides of the line.....this is the one that I have a leak in.  I am not sure how these connections are tightened....or removed for that matter. 

Anyone understand what I am saying here? I need to either tighten the connections on this line or replace it.  Let me know what you think. 
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: VileZambonie on June 14, 2008, 07:54:56 pm
That's the high pressure hose. You need to get a new one.
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: 77IndyStepside on June 14, 2008, 08:58:56 pm
That's the high pressure hose. You need to get a new one.

Thanks much - will do.  Is there a trick to removing this leaking one?  Let me know. 
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: VileZambonie on June 15, 2008, 08:48:07 am
Lefty loosey righty tighty. It might be easier to tighten and loosen using a crows foot. Just make sure you thread it in by hand as to not cross thread it and make sure if your steering box uses an o-ring seal that it's there and the old one is out.
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: 77IndyStepside on June 15, 2008, 12:31:42 pm
Lefty loosey righty tighty. It might be easier to tighten and loosen using a crows foot. Just make sure you thread it in by hand as to not cross thread it and make sure if your steering box uses an o-ring seal that it's there and the old one is out.

Thanks sir - just screws off - good to know - did not want to hork on the thing until I knew that was the method.  Never done anything with regards to power steering on any vehicle that I have owned.  Is there any kind of trick to not lose a ton of fluid when making the change - or is the most I'm going to lose what is in the hose itself?
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: Prong on June 16, 2008, 01:31:48 am
It'll drain the pump dry if you let it. What I would do is remove the line at the box first and then prop the end up above the pump to stop the draining process. Then remove the end at the pump and screw in the new hose at the pump end ASAP to minimize loss and the mess. I would also stick some teflon tape on the threads of the new line (both ends), but be sure that the tape won't protrude into the path of the fluid. Wouldn't want that stuff getting sucked into the system.
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: 77IndyStepside on June 16, 2008, 11:00:51 pm
So I started this job tonight and had a heck of time.  The fitting on the back of the pump just will not loosen.  It's cramped quarters to get an open face wrench in there to hork on it and so minimal leverage...but the thing just will not budge.  Any ideas on tools that I could try or maybe another angle rather than underneath? 
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: VileZambonie on June 16, 2008, 11:06:24 pm
You can do it! Use a flare nut wrench and hook another wrench on the end for some leverage
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: 77IndyStepside on June 16, 2008, 11:12:31 pm
You can do it! Use a flare nut wrench and hook another wrench on the end for some leverage

Thanks - will have to see if I can borrow a flare nut wrench in the morning from a neighbor that surely has a set.  I'm assuming this fitting was tightened at the factory 30 years ago - and does not want to 'leave the nest'......:-)
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: 77IndyStepside on June 20, 2008, 11:16:27 am
Holy Mother of All that is Holy!  Removing the high pressure line fitting from the rear of the power steering pump has turned into quite the job.  It would not budge.....and I'm not a small man by any means.  I purchased a flare nut wrench to get a hold of it and still could not get enough leverage working from below to remove it.  Ended up taking the pump out of the mounting bracket last night to remove it.

A severe complicating factor in removing this fitting is the fact that the threads of the line fitting screw into a mount on the back of the pump that has a large flat nut and that turns as well!  So not only do you have to try and hork on the fitting nut itself - you have to find a way to secure this larger mount nut from spinning in the same direction.  Royal pain in the behind to say the least.  It was much easier once I had the pump out and laying on the bench - that is for sure.  Even then though I had vice grips on the mount nut and the flare nut wrench on the line nut and was hammering the flare wrench with all I had to get the thing to loosen. 

I will buy the new line today at the parts store and re-install the pump itself.  Cripes!  I don't know if my dad was just a chronic "overtightener" or if this is just how things go on older trucks - but every nut or bolt that I have laid a wrench to under the hood of this truck is tighter than I can even imagine it needs to be.     
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: Bitzer! on June 20, 2008, 02:04:52 pm

I'm having the opposite  :D  i'm wondering how things never fell off mine. Fuel tank bolts = finger tight and only a few threads left on bolt. AND the bed was lifted off within 20 mins of starting work on it!!
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: VileZambonie on June 20, 2008, 06:22:01 pm
Someone needs to eat their wheaties! lol You learn techniques that will help you work smarter not harder.
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: 77IndyStepside on June 20, 2008, 08:59:53 pm
Someone needs to eat their wheaties! lol You learn techniques that will help you work smarter not harder.

You would not have removed this fitting from underneath - guaranteed.  The smarter way here would to have been to just remove the pump a few days back rather than wrestling with it for the amount of time that I did.  That is the lesson I learned here.   
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: VileZambonie on June 20, 2008, 09:41:05 pm
ok  ::)
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: 77IndyStepside on June 20, 2008, 10:34:03 pm
ok  ::)

We'll arm wrestle someday and then go from there..... 8)
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: VileZambonie on June 21, 2008, 01:33:59 am
Don't take it the wrong way my friend... I've been doing this all my working life as have some others here and there are lots of tricks of the trade you'll learn when you run into stubborn things.... You got the job done is all that matters now.
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: 77IndyStepside on June 21, 2008, 01:33:50 pm
Don't take it the wrong way my friend... I've been doing this all my working life as have some others here and there are lots of tricks of the trade you'll learn when you run into stubborn things.... You got the job done is all that matters now.

Good point - and thanks for your help along the way.  Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: 77IndyStepside on June 21, 2008, 05:12:55 pm
Replaced both lines while I had the whole thing out - no leaks whatsoever now.  Replaced the fluid with some high mileage fluid with leak protectant and line conditioner as well.  Hopefully I can leave the power steering system alone for a while now.  (If I ever smell power steering fluid again it will be too soon!) 
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: VileZambonie on June 21, 2008, 09:50:07 pm
Better to smell it than taste it!  ;D
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: 77IndyStepside on June 21, 2008, 10:09:12 pm
Better to smell it than taste it!  ;D

I have to admit - got a little in my mouth at one point while underneath.  (Should have just kept that to myself.)  The stuff gets everywhere.....that is probably another sign of an amateur.   ;D
Title: Re: Power Steering Line Leak - Question
Post by: VileZambonie on June 21, 2008, 10:10:46 pm
Nope! that will just help you differentiate your next fluid leak. you'll know if it's power steering fluid or not won't ya?  :D At least it wasn't gear oil!