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General Site Info => General Discussion => Topic started by: VileZambonie on August 03, 2008, 09:13:24 am
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This story disgusted me! The guy decapitated a passenger on the bus with his Rambo knife for no reason. Absolutely sickening. This is where I say an eye for an eye. Things like this deserve the reciprocal act.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-canada1-2008aug01,0,3890885.story
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absolutely horrific
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Yeah, I wasn't sure if that would even hit the American news since it happened up here in Canada but I guess it was bad enough to make headlines. Sick eh? My wife was pretty disturbed by it and actually kept her up that night. Apparently the killer was a "real nice, quiet guy" Very crazy!
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yeah i heard about this last wednesday or thursday...very disturbing and i live next to canada too :-\. you'd think though with all the other people on the bus they could have taken out the attacker and try to help the guy gettin stabbed. it's too bad though.
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Even more eerie, the the victim looks ALOT like my roomate during my freshman year in college.
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They should put him in pen and let who ever wants shoot him repeatedly with a pellet gun for a week or three. Then they should douse him with gasoline, and light him up!
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The other tragedy here is that he's probably gonna get to spend the rest of his days in a cozy little mental institution; that's if he doesn't get released back into the general public after 10 or so years.
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It's sad! I know my temperament and I can honestly say I would have probably freaked at first too but I would have found some weapons and some back up to mutilate him. It's hard to believe no one helped the victim at all.
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No matter what country...and the politicians want to take guns away from law-abiding citizens. ???
I heard of this story right after it happened and heard that over half the passengers were children.
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I think no one helped because they were asleep and it was in the middle of the night. Very Scary!
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True. And just a day or two after that happened, locally here in Surrey, a guy got stabbed trying to help a woman who was being assaulted on the street.
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Every person should be able to defends themselve against these asshats with deadly force. I too cannot believe someone did not step in and do something.
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Every person should be able to defends themselve against these asshats with deadly force. I too cannot believe someone did not step in and do something.
....and the liberals are trying to take weapons away from law-abiding citizens. I just don't understand Liberals. I don't understand people who support Liberals.
Ever hear of the term "Nanny State"? I don't want to be told what I can do, when I can do it, and how to do what little I can do.
Sorry for the rave. My blood just boils whenever rights are taken away from the ones who do the right thing. In this particular case, probably nothing could have been done anyway, and, it was in another country, but anyway....
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That right there is why i always carry my 1911 You never know when ur going to need it...And having my 3 kids with me at all times i couldn't imagine not being able to defend my self or them
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I have to agree, I carry a compact pistol almost all the time now on my person, If I saw it I would have to think someone would get shot.
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I always use the inside the waist band holster....The whole point to carrying is so no one knows....I would never carry... my gun if it was legal to carry a buck knife But......Isnt that funny? You can carry a gun but not a buck knife with a fixed blade
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My blood just boils whenever rights are taken away from the ones who do the right thing
I feel the same on this Sgt.
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Isnt that funny? You can carry a gun but not a buck knife with a fixed blade
It's for the best. You wouldn't want to bring a knife to a gun fight now would you?
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Yea thats a good point.....But the truth be told i can only carry my gun 25% of the time anyways....Cant even take it to walmart with me...How crazy is that anyways? I got trained and licensed to carry my gun....But I'm told its a no no to take it in any store.....OK But thats not going to stop a felon that carries his gun anyways...Which is going to leave me and my family open to danger...So i have to just sit back and be a victim with what rights i have left..
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Why can't you take it in walmart? I carry mine in there all the time.
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What I dont understand is why didnt a couple guys (or women) bum rush they guy with the knife ? To stand there and do nothing when someone is screaming I would not be able to stand idly by as the driver was pulling the bus over
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Well here in Ohio..And I'm sure other places it is against the law to carry a firearm in any store that prohibits it...And every store i see prohibits it..See what i wounder is if i carry it on me in a store and defend my life with it is it still against the law?....And back to the bus....I would think that many of them went into shock.And to scared to do anything...I didn't read the full story but i think its safe to say his life was over with the first stab wound and for any one to try and stop the man would just cause a uneasy risk
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Not all states are like Alabama.
This link has some good information for CCW http://handgunlaw.us/state-link.htm
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In Texas, anywhere but schools, govt buildings (court house, post office, police station, etc.), liqour stores, or any place that draws a certain percentage of its revenue from alcohol sales (not sure the percentage off the top of my head). You need your pistol at Wal Mart more than most other places, LOL.
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LOL That is true tho...My wife is a Depot manager at Walmart Just the other day some guy stole $700 worth of stuff and When he was running away from the loss prevention agents in the store he shoved kids and women and anything else he could find in there way.
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Wow, I always find that amazing at how easily a concealed gun can be carried in the US. You shouldn't feel so oppressed about carrying one or limitations. As far as I know here in Canada, you completely cannot not do it unless you are a cop or some kind of gov't agent licensed to carry a weapon. Security guards here don't carry guns either. Police and armored car personnel is about all that I ever see. I had some friends in Wash. state that had their CCW permits and it blew my mind when they said they had their Glock in their truck or tucked under their shirt just tooling around doing whatever.
As for the bus riders, I'm sure they were in shock but also when you see that kind of impromptu violence and in that close proximity, you just want to get the heck out of there and pray the attacker's attention and rage doesn't turn on you. If we had more lax gun laws, I would suspect people would be more brave to jump in, or just shoot.
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Yeah, but if you listen to the liberals and their "statistics" there is a definite correlation between handgun ownership and murder/violent crime rates when comparing countries. I have to agree. Work to reduce the number of criminals that own handguns and the murder/violent crime rates will go down dramatically. But what good removing them from law-abiding citizens will accomplish is beyond me. It's huge responsibility (even a burden) no doubt and some simply aren't cut out for it, but those who choose to be responsible, law-abiding gun owners should not be prevented from protecting themselves and their families with this life-saving tool.
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but those who choose to be responsible, law-abiding gun owners should not be prevented from protecting themselves and their families with this life-saving tool
Amen Brother!
You know the new Supreme Court ruling , 5-4 by the way, ruled that D.C.'s gun ban was unconstitutional. Yeahaw, the court finally did something right. See my www.PonderedThoughts.com website under March 18 entry.
But, for 30 years, D.C. had the strictest gun ban/control in the country. Did violent crime go down in that 30 years? Nope. Did violent crime increase in those decades? Yep
What does that prove? Criminals will carry guns no matter the laws. Law abiding citizens will not carry guns if it against the law. Who would have the guns? hmmmmm....
I'm packing all the time. I dare some thug to come up and make me use it. I qualify at work yearly with a 99.8% score, considered a Pistol Master. Come on pick on me. I am tired of thugs getting 18 months for violent crimes only to hit the street again and commit 20 more crimes before they are caught again, only to hit the streets again in two years or so.
I love California's 3 strikes law--three felonies and you get life. That is the only thing about California I like. I hear of a theif who stole $5 from a pizza deliver man. The public uproared because they say he got life because of $5. NO! He got life because he didn't learn from the prior two convictoins/chances.
Build more prisons. Give thugs more time in bars.
Glock Power!
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I agree with that 100% It would not be a bad idea if more states would pick up on the 3 strike law......
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Yeah baby Glock, I love my model 17. I carry it almost all the time. I learned from my old man, growing up he always had his 45 on the seat next to him in the truck or on his belt. I carry mine in the post office too. I don't even think about it, plus the population in my town is approx 900 people. Main room of the post office is about 10 x 24, whole building is 24 x 40.
When I was a kid my father, and I where in McDonalds taking a break from Christmas shopping. This dirt bag at the counter started making a scene about his order not being right, the way he asked for it, he got all pissed off, left stating he would be back with his girl friend to prove to them he always has his burger the way he said they didn't make it etc. etc. My old man stated his feelings to me, and the people in close proximity. Several minutes go by the guy screeches to a stop in the middle of the driveway, gets out dragging his girl friend out the drivers side with him and in he comes dragging her along. He starts yelling and screaming, tells her to tell them, she is crying, the manager comes around the counter to diffuse the situation, the guy pulls out a 38 and starts waving it around. My old man stands up walks up to the front, takes the gun away with his left hand, and knocks the kid out cold with a right to his face! The cops show up, and when they find out my old man was wearing his 45 they start grilling him, even though he had a concealed permit to carry. Plus he was a licensed gun smith.
I have the utmost respect for a police officer, & firmen for that matter. They risk their lives for not nearly enough pay in my opinion, but there are allot of them that just don't think right.
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Well that guy was lucky ur old man didn't do much worse to him!
My brother is a State trooper and my uncle is a dept sheriff and id still have to say they really dont think right! Maybe its the stress? Who knowns all i no is that there has been a few times that i got pulled over..Proved the cop WRONG....Was not being cocky and yet he still found a way to give me a ticket...Its like a game to them...But when a crime does happen...If it dont happen right in front of them or on film..They drag it out and some times nothing happens...That might even be why the cop gave him a hard time...He saw some one with a gun before he seen the real criminal in action
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You have to look at it from their perspective. They serve a public that doesn't appreciate them, for not nearly enough pay, they are lied to on a regular basis, and everything their job requires they do comes with a mile-long trail of paper work. Traffic tickets do serve a purpose in protecting unruly motorists from themselves. Also, if everything were done "by the book" there would be alot more petty "CS" tickets than there are now; so give the officer credit for only writing you one ticket (chances are he could have come up with more). My advice would be if you really think you can prove your innocence, do in front of a judge, not out on the side of the interstate, you are wasting your time. A ticket is not a declaration of guilt, just an appointment for a meeting with a judge, so try not to take personal offense to it (unless you were in the wrong, then let it be a lesson).
Jeez, it sounds like I'm real tool for the man. LOL.
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I agree 50 or more % of the people they come in contact with are dirt bags that fabricate their own truth!
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Don't get me wrong i respect them...I'm friends with a lot of cops.And related to cops...But there are a few that get into law enforcement for the wrong reason's....They use it and abuse it..And when they put the badge on they get a ego trip...And then there the ones that end up killing some one cause they spend most of there time trying to make it look good and they get scared and jump the gun..
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My father was an officer in town from 64 till about 73. Thats back when you shot first, & asked questions later. He used to joke they would just whack an unruly person, then question him when they came to. " Its easier to cuff em, & stuff em when they are unconscious ". Its also easier to question them when they are cuffed, & shackled to a chair ". I remember him telling about one guy they had cuffed, & hooked to a chair with leg irons. He came to, when he saw my old man and the chief he jumped up, & ran, well tried to run! Guy took one step and was face down on the floor with a broken nose and front teeth knocked out! Still missing those teeth to this day! That would have made a good video for cops! My mother was an officer from 78 until 93, was the chief in town from 81 until 91. I have two really good friends that are officers, both chiefs of similar small town depts. like the one in my home town. One of them started out as a beat cop and worked his way to detective in Jersey. The other has been a cop here in NH for several different towns and one small city since 71. Plus I know about eight other cops and one detective. they all say its a thankless job. I saw it growing up too. I also know of about 30 cops that are complete mouth breathing morons with not 2 ounces of common sense!
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http://www.guncontrol.ca/Content/Cda-US.htm
The USA should follow Canada's example for gun control. The above link gives some statistics between the US and Canada from 1998. For example, per 100,000 people, The US had 3.5 times as many robberies with guns than we had. And handgun murders, 14.5 times as many as we had! Allowing citizens to carry guns only promotes more violence.
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Well that's not true at all....Guns wont make some one kill....Guns wont make some one rob you.....In the US you have to have a permit..You have to have very strict background checks done....You have to take a class....Its not the gun at all...Its the thugs and losers that Steal guns and carry them with out a permit that some one should worry about
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Not sure on Canadian laws but the U.S is weak on punishment for someone who has a gun illegally.
Gun Free Zones in the U.S just creates more victims. The punks with guns no one will be there to stop em.
Read the following its pretty interesting
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n15_v46/ai_15729634
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from the article you can see that the serious nutters dont need guns to be deadly. criminals will always be able to get a gun even if they are outlawed all together.
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All gun control does is restrict the law-abiding citizen. The criminal? they could'nt care less what laws are out there, that is why they call them criminals!
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Gun carryin' Texan here. Woulda let the air out of him. Possibly with some satisfaction.
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Is there something in the water up there lately ?
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/22/Second_attack_on_Canadian_Greyhound_bus/UPI-98611222083434/
Need to start letting people carry their own weapons