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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Members Rides => Topic started by: cubicdollars on August 03, 2008, 06:19:27 pm
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Well with the dually almost complete I am starting to plan out my Stepside rebuild. In 1996 I pulled it down to the frame installed the 4 link, rebuilt the front end, replaced the doors,fenders,and hood, and repainted the truck.
This time around I plan on sanding the truck down and replace the door that my ex wife kicked in >:( as well as the putty filled rear fenders.
The big changes that are planned are
Narrow the rear end to accommodate the new Convo Pro 15X12 rims with 31X16.5 tires
Build an Aluminum flush mounted tonnou cover
Re do the wood floor
Build a Tall Deck 505, (10.2 deck, 4.250 crank shaft, 6.800 H beam rods, 4.350 pistons)
with an F2 Procharger producing 15-20 lbs of boost. Merlin Rect port cast iron heads, Dart tall deck intake manifold, and a blow through carb.
My goal is around 1000 horse power and mid 10 seconds at the track.
As soon as the heat breaks I'll be in the garage and I will post updates as I make progress
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Sounds like a good plan!
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1K horses... nice round number :)
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and way quicker than mid 10's
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That sounds way awesome! Convo-pros are great, I have 15x10s in the back, with 0 backspacing and no room issues. You sure you need to narrow the rear end?
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I bought used 15X12 rims so the backspacing was not exactly what I needed, the old saying pay me now or pay me later comes to mind ???, i am also installing c clip elimanators at the same time
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sounds like a good plan. got any current pics?
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Here you go. I took hese a couple weeks ago before I removed the rear end to get cut down.
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sweet man! keep us posted.
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Are you planning to tub it too? (the bed)
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I have 67 chevy fleetside wheel tubs installed in the bed already I put those together a few years ago.
Here is the link to the truck I have had it since August of 1990 I bought it when I was a senior in High School
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Hey everyone ;D
Just got my engine back from the machine shop ;D ;D ;D
It's a Tall deck (SRP Flat Tops ) , Stroke = 4.250 (Callies Dragonslayor), Compstar 6.800 H Beam rods with ARP rod bolts, ARP Main Studs, 320 cc Rect Port Merlin heads ( Grumpy Jenkins series)
Final Displacement is Five Hundred and Five Cubic inches of Fat Momma Chevy. Enjoy
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sweeeeeet!!!
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That'll put the rumbly in the tumbly :o
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Awesome! More pics more details!
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ya hveing that motor in my truck would be awsome kepp up the good work post more pics ;D and that step side is awsome 8)
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N A S T Y. Can't wait to see the video of that one.
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That thing's gonna fly! yeah! :o
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You aint foolin' around now are you? ;D
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Thanks Guy's !!
Here are the details..
1978 Tall Deck 427 truck block Casting # 364776
Callies Compstar H beam rods Part Number CSB6800 ES3BP42BDS, Length 6.800 (0.665 over stock)
Callies Dragonslayer Part Number BBP42B-DS, 4.250 Stroke ( 0.250 over stock)
SRP Flat Top's with single Valve relief Part Number 142982, 4.350 Bore, 1.270 compression height (0.100 over stock )
World Products Grumpy Jenkins series cast Rect port heads, 320cc runners, 118cc combustion chamber, 2.30 stainless intake valves, 1.90 Stainless Exhaust valves.
Comp Cams pro Magnum roller rockers.
The camshaft will be a solid roller custom grind from Camshaft Inovations.
The Intake will be Dart high rise with a CSU Blow though 850 Carb.
The supercharger will be an ATI Centrifigual F2 cog drive as well as an intercooler.
I am hoping to make around 950 HP on pump gas with this combo ;D ;D ;D
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!!!!!OH SNAP!!!! :o :o :o
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Dear lord I just got a stiffy!
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That is sweeeet! 8)
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So um how much bucks you got invested???
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I have had a stiffy since I picked it up last night ;D ;D ;D.
The origanal engine that I was planning to use had to be re allocated for my Dually which was 489 cubic inches. I am really happy I used iy and went with a bigger and better combo. I do have to clearence the block to hake the Big rod bolts not hit.
Enjoy
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pics no work
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Block = $ 250
Crank = $ 1000
Pistons = $ 600
Rods = $ 580
Machine work = $ 1060
Mad power at my foot = Priceless :o :o :o :o
Needless to say I have been eating a lot of Top Ramin lately, Everything is paid for and no credit cards were used ;D
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lol sweeeeeeeeeet so jealous
so an estimate of hp/tq.
what about is the limits the 3/4 frame can handle?
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Guy's have made over 1000 HP with combo's similiar to this. or even smaller engines. Steve Morris racing engines makes up to 2000 HP on the F2 and F3 superchargers.
I have a 1/2 ton stepside with a Roll cage and a Chris Alston 4 link suspension. I will also be putting in a front and mid moter plates to keep the engine in place.
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i need to figure out a set up for my 3/4. i was watching one of them power block "horsepower" shows and they had wyotech guys in there and they gave them a 5k spending limit but they only turned out i think it was 422 hp and 401 hp with the zz383 short block that it seamed they were so proud of, i don't think thats the way to go. IMO summit has there hands way to dirty in that show i mean everything they guys say has to do with them. bunch of (http://www.naioa.com/v2/modules/Forums/images/smiles/bs.gif)
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I probably never build another small block, You can build a budget stroker Big block for the same price and have more torque.
Scat Sells a cast stroker 4.250 crank for $280. you could build a really nice 489 to 505 on a 5k budget.
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a guy local to here had a late 70's nova with a 505, went 10.20's with no power adders - not bad for an engine out of an old grain truck.
i think youre gonna need bigger tires. and in quantity ;D
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Do you think these are big enough ? ;D They are 33 x 16.5
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That is going to be one wicked ride!
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I probably never build another small block, You can build a budget stroker Big block for the same price and have hella more torque.
Scat Sells a cast stroker 4.250 crank for $280. you could build a really nice 489 to 505 on a 5k budget.
Theres no replacement for displacement. I plan on building a 505 for my 76 swb (not the choptop) and making it a full on drag truck. Its gonna be a while as I got two extended cabs, the wifes 81 3/4 ton, and my choptop to finish before it.
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The good thing about this build , there were no exoctic parts everything was off the shelf :D
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Cool build!
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After a few weeks of putting off the clearencing work I fired up the die grinder and notched the block for the beefy rods ;D
I think I have around 6 hours of assembling, disassembling, grinding, cleaning, assembling again, then back to dissambly again for a final cut. since I am running steel rods I need a minimum of .80. I do have to dissamble again for a few spots but I will be done mocking it up. I also checked the piston height and at TDC it's 0 with rock over it's .006 just perfect for what I am planning to do. Aby way enjoy the picts.
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man she'll meke some wicked horse power
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Delicious!
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That's just awesome.. ;D
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That thing will be tight when your done!
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Whooo weee! That is some powerplant! ;D
You might wanna invest some money in a tire company. You may need a lifetime supply of rubber, running that bad boy. lol
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Thanks Guy's ;D
I have my Merlin heads at the machine shop now getting ported, polished and flow benched not they should be done in a few weeks. Unfortunatly this could be a long drawn out project. I work in the Aviation field and everyday lately we are talking about layoff and Furloughs.
But just like my dually I do not plan on racking up any credit cards or loans to build this bad boy, I'll be eating alot of top ramin though ;D ;D
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That's going to be One bad mutha! Are you going to intercool it? What is the compression work out to being? Lorne
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Yes it will be intercooler or a Snow performance methonal injection. I will have 9 to 1 compression, Flat top -3cc valve relief, 4.350 bore and 119cc heads.
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Here is a photo of my head on the flow bench
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Might just be me but I never saw a "invisible" head before :)
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Those must be the lightest set of heads i have ever seen lol.... :o
thanks
pat
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Question,
what is the update on this beast of a motor? Inquiring minds like to know. lol...
hanks
pat
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Update ;D
I have the clearancing done. I need to order piston rings, camshaft, new bearings, and lifters before I dissassemble the entire assembly clean and reassemble for the last time and put it on the test stand for break in.
I got the heads back from the machine shop he was able to pick up quite a bit on the exhaust side and a little on the intake side.
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Cubic, Did they not do much port work on the intake side to maintain the 80% flow rule? Lookin' Good! Lorne
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He concentrated mainly on the exhaust , these heads will be on a blown application they still flow great at .700 the intakes flow 347.5 and the exhaust flows 310.4. ;D
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Got my truck back from a buddy of mine that did the majority of the body work, I just need to scuff the white paint and prime the entire truck. I also have to send the rear fenders to the soda blaster this week then drop them back off to the bodyman for the gas tank door welded up and the inner fender lips cut and stiffened up.
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Got the truck completly tore apart this week and finished scuffing the old paint. It's pretty much ready t prime then I'll shoot the firewall and door jams. It looks like I'll be able to order a bunch of engine parts this payday as well to final assembly the engine ;D ;D.
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wow is that truck gonna look awsome i realy like how your dash is layed out, good work man wish my stepside was like yours keep the pics coming 8)
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Great job!!! Was wondering what the duty assignment will be, street, street/strip, or strip?
Joe
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Thanks Guy's ;D
Mainly strip but it will be street driven. The engine is a 505 Tall deck. and I will have an F2 procharger on it with an intercooler on it. I am setting it up for Real Stret 10.5, not real sure if I will be competive but I love seeing the faces of guys that just got wooped by an old farm truck ;)
I should have it in primer before the week is over and with this payday I should have the rest of the engine parts I need to Final assembly the engine.
Thanks
Dan
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looking very nice.
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nice
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I have been working my a## off this week in the shop. I work a weekend shft 3X12's and I have 4 day's off during the week so I have plenty of time to spend it in the garage, One advantage of being divorced with no children ;D
I have the entire truck scuff sanded, I replaced door hinge bushings and rehung the doors. I am ready to prime the cab and then paint the door jams and firewall.
I also recieved in a pile of parts for the engine. I am ready to dissassemble the engine scrub it and final assemble the short block and as soon as my cam gets ground and sent to me I will assemble the heads. I should be able to drop it on the run stand and break it in really soon ;D ;D ;D ;D.
Here is a detailed parts list of what I have purchased up to date and my facebook will not let me add any more photos so click on my webshots link and you will see the latest progress-http://community.webshots.com/user/Thorenson?vhost=community (http://community.webshots.com/user/Thorenson?vhost=community)
Part's & Worked received
10.200 Block Used Received 1 $225.00 Friend
Callies Crank BBP42B-DS Received 1 $1,064.00 AD Performance
Pistons SRP-4.350 Received 1 $525.00 Flatlander racing
Rods Compstar Received 1 $580.00 Russel Baker
Machine Work Russ Baker Received 1 $1,200.00 Russel Baker
Main Stud kit ARP-235-5701 Received 1 $121.95 Summit Racing
Head Porting Jeff Menzer Received 1 $350.00 Jeff Menzer
Engine bolt kit 535-9701 Received 1 $89.99 Competition Products
Head Studs 235-410 Received 1 $143.99 Competition Products
Retainer's 3808 Received 1 $43.95 Competition Products
10 Deg Locks 4413 Received 1 $17.99 Competition Products
Rod Bearings CB743H Received 1 $79.99 Competition Products
Main Bearings MS829HS Received 1 $77.99 Competition Products
Piston Rings F4350 Received 1 $178.17 Competition Products
Exhaust Rotator Eliminator 4779-8 Received 1 $27.95 Competition Products
Tapered ring installation tool 535012 Received 1 $25.95 Competition Products
Roller lifters CCA-866-16 Received 1 $489.95 Summit Racing
Timing gears-Pete Jackson PJJ-427-5C Received 1 $175.95 Summit Racing
Total Spent $5,417.82
I still have about $10,000 more parts to buy ??? which includes the Procharger and intercooler. The total amount I will spend on the engine alone is $16,100. I still have quite a bit of parts for the truck as well. My plan in to get the truck painted then as I can buy the parts needed in order to proceed.
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Wow, that's crazy! Nice work! With that amount of money into the motor, wouldn't that have bought a 572 crate motor? Guess it wouldn't be as fun though not building it yourself.
The dash layout, did you make the aluminum guage overlay? Looks like 1 piece, bent to fit the cluster. I want to do something similar but in black gloss plexi.
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I probably could have bought a crate engine but It would of been naturally asperated , steve Morris racing engines sells a complete package but the cheapest and smallest engine is $23,000 http://www.smreperformance.com/centrifugal-supercharger-engines.html (http://www.smreperformance.com/centrifugal-supercharger-engines.html), Cubic Inches + big Horsepower = Cubic Dollars ;D
I have been dreaming about this engine for about 8 years even when I built my last 454 I was not satisfied until I dropped in an F2.
The dash was built back in 1994 I believe I bought the aluminum face plate from summit i think but it has been a long time ago.
Thanks
Dan
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thats the truck of my dreams when ur done with it i need it back so i can sleep ;)
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Jwag hope you got a little sleep :)
Well I sent my block and heads back to the machine shop to get the reciever groves milled in the block and heads for the O-ring and get the heads assembled.
I also picked up my cam from him as well it's a solid roller custom grind from a company out of Etta MS called Custom Cams Great guy to work with and Highly recommended. My Machinist says this engine will make an easy 1000 hp at 15 lbs of boost ;D, I plan on running about 10lbs to start and work my way up. I need to run slower than 9.99's so I do not have to change my cage out. My goal is to run mid 10's on an easy combination.
Cams Specs
Duration @ 50 Intake 268 Exhaust 280
Valve Lift 1.7n rocker .748 .748
Lobe sep 114
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wow i just read through the build im lovin this truck, cant wait to see what this does on the track when its done
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very nice very nice.
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we need videos when this thing is running!!!
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;D Soon My friend ;D ;D
I just got the block back from the machine shop again. After talking to my machinist he advised me to O-Ring the block so I sent that and the heads down to him to get the grooves machined and assemble the heads. After I get the heads back I have all the parts needed to assemble the engine for a final time, Then measure for new length for new Push rods. Only a few hundred more then I'll be able to start it and break it in on my run stand ;) ;) ;)
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My goal is to run mid 10's on an easy combination.
Man, from what I see here so far you got that in the bag! I guess the trick will be to get that power to the ground!
Fantastic work, that engine is amazing! :o
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Well It's been a busy last few weeks I recieved my heads back from the machin shop set up and ready to go, recieved my KRC power steering pump today and should have my intake manifold next week sometime. I finished prepping the bed and on monday afternoon got all the peices in primer and ready to mock up on the truck. Tonight after work I loaded the truck up and ran it down to the car wash to clean the frame and get it ready for paint.
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Sweet! Is it going back white?
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Cubic, What are you going to do for the bed floor? Wood & strips would be kinda cool ;) Nice build! Lorne
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I am going back white, I still have enough paint left over from the dually project so I plan on using that up.
I'll put the wood floor back in the truck again like it used to be but this time I'll go with Oak instead of Pine. I know it's heavier but the Pine cracked really bad on me and it was too soft anytime it got dinged it showed up.
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Well It's been a long time since I updated this post, I had a pretty busy summer but not too much progress on the truck.
I recieved an oil pump and oil pan gasket yesterday and my head gaskets are on back order. beside's some more gaskets the engine is ready to assemble and break in on the run stand.
I have the truck over to a friends shop right now, He is installing a new coil over set up with new single adjustable shocks, installing a new drive shaft loop, transmission mount, mid plate, Roll Cage and front plate.
My vision of the truck is to have a total sleeper, exterior all street but as soon as to pop the steel hood all race. There will be nothing cooler that pulling up to the line in a heavy clean truck looking like just another lowered stepside and ripping off a mid 9 second pass ;D ;D ;D.
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There will be nothing cooler that pulling up to the line in a heavy clean truck looking like just another lowered stepside and ripping off a mid 9 second pass ;D ;D ;D.
You're right about that
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Well I cut my old roll cage out this weekend and removed my interior, I have decided to set the new roll cage higher and have the back bars come through the top of the cab instead of the back glass and I will also be installing a 10 point cage so I can install my front moter plate and eliminate the factory engine mount. as the cage in installed I will add photo's.
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can't wait to see it. Why the move on the bars, simplicity?
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I decided to move the bars through the cab because I'd like to go back to a solid back window and since I am still doing body work I figured now is the time to make it right. The guy installing the cage is pretty sure he can get the fron bars through the firewall in the top corners so I can retin my window wiper moter as well as the heater box. I am trying to make the cage both functional to satisfy the rule book but maintain the stock appearence as much as possible.
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Great Build Dan,
I'm waiting for the Vid. of this truck hooking at the track.
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WOW!! spectacular!! I love it
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Here is some updated picts of my rear end upgrade. Ford 9 inch with a new back brace, new driveshaft loop, and some items that needed fixed.
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this thing is looking awsome i wish i had the money to tub my stepside and build a hefty motor and turn mine into a prostreet truck keep us posted with lots of pics 8)
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Hey Everyone ;D
It's been a while but I got an update on my stepside. I just got it back my friends shop, he finished the rear suspension installing the 9inch with the back brace, fixed a bunch of small things and installed shocks. He also added solid moter mounts, transmission crossmember and a new midplate.
Enjoy :)
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Very nice!
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Now that all the fab work of the rear end is complete i'll pull the cab off and front suspension off and sand blast the frame and front suspension so I can prime and paint it. after I get it put back together he is going to build a new roll cage for me :)
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Its coming along nicely! Where did you get those motor mounts? I didnt see anything about them.
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I got the moter mounts from Competition Products, they are the same as the moroso mounts, I wanted to put a front plate in but the fabicater said these mounts with a midplate would be plenty strong.
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Alright Everyone, After the holidays I was able to get started back on my stepside I built a few stands to fol the body on one for the bed, the cab and one for the front clip my plan is to finish the body work and paint them in sections I am using a single stage paint so I will not have to worry about color mismatch, I also have the rear end out and painted and cleaning the frame up. I did a frame up in 1997 and the paint held up pretty good so a cleaning and scuff and the frame will be ready to shoot that savee me a trrip to the sand blaster. I am going to run the frame back down to the fabricator to have the front crossmember cut out in the center and have it reinforced with round tube, this will shave quite a few pounds of the nose.
well here is some picts of the progress....Enjoy
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Your pix are tiny!
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Beautiful job
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Alright Guys it's been a while I guesse I have too many irons in the fire. A few months ago I ran my frame down to the fabricator to cut out the center section of the front suspension for weight loss and oil pan clearence as well as replace my bid flat peice forward of the crossmember with round tubing for clearence. I need to clean all the surface rust and start prepping the frame for paint.
Here the picts
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Crazy cool :o
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Your hired...when can you start.. ;D
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That motor is huge! love the truck, cant wait to see a video of it in action
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Is a link suspension setup like that ok for street use? I would think it would have alot of side to side movement? But I love the truck.
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I drove it around for years on the streets with no problems, This set up has poly bushings in all of the rod ends that helps and it has a panhard bar that limits sis to side movement.
I cant wait to get it back on the road :)
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Sorry didnt see the panhard bar...
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Thats ok, in these picts it wasnt installed. I just took a promotion with another company so I am in the process of packing all my stuff up and relocating to Wichita, I am hoping to get all settled in in about a month so I can at least hest the frame cleaned and painted before the heat kicks in out here, then this fall I'll work the rest of the truck. The engine is back at my machinist for assembly since I am moving I didnt want it to sit unassembled for too much longer.
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Got my Procharger this weekend .................Whooohoooooo:):)
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Just in the process of updating everyone on my projects
the stepside is comming together nicely I got the frame cleaned and painted, assembled the front and rear suspension under coated the cab and remounted it to the frame. I made and mounted my fuel line and fuel filter. working on the brake lines and system but need to finish paint work first. I recieved my rear disk brake kit but I need my axels made first before I mount everything up.
I have decided to make a major change to this project nd put the 489 from the Dually into this truck and put it backon semi full street duty. I purchased a 66 Nova so the Tall Deck Procharged 505 will go into that. The 489 will still be plenty fast.
I cant seem to load Webshot photo's so you will have to follow the link at the bottom.
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That little Nova will fly with that, I recently purchased a 63 Nova Wagon only going to get a SB 406 :)
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Whats the truck weigh? Thanks.
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I love the Nova wagons too :)
The last time I weighed it was 3840 but I cut the cage out and had a foot of front crossmember removed so it should be quite a bit lighter.
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;D ;D ;D
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Well its been a long time since I have updated this project, I got back from mexico in December and am back to work in the states for good :)
I have decided to go another route on this truck and I am install a twin turbo 489 BBC. The engine came from my dually when I installed the cummins.
The engine-4.250 Stroke Scat Forged, 4.280 Bore, 6.385 H beam rods, SRP Forged pistons, JE Rings, Comp cams Solid roller Blower cam, Comp Cams Lifters, Victor Single plane intake, 2 Godspeed (ebay special) turbos T72 with T4 flange, .84A/R. KRC power steering pump. Racepumps fuel pump and regulator, Blow through modified 850 AD Mighty demon.
I have it down to the frame right now and last year i had a fabricator fix my poor 4 link installation and install a ford 9 inch, I installed Moser axels 35 spline and I robbed my strange center section form my racecar 35 spline detroit locker with 3.21 gears.
I installed disc brakes in the rear from an Ebay kit and I installed a hydraboost master cylinder.
I just finished installing all new brake lines that goes through a new line lock, and rounted and clamped the tail light wire harness.
I am currently routing a new -10 fuel line and battary cable for the rear battary and cut off switch and putting the interior and elictrical back together.
My overall vision of this truck is to put it back on the street and drive it quite a bit, The roll cage was removed last year to re do and I decided to keep it out all together. The engine will be pump gas and I will intercool it with methonal injection. I would like this to make great powerbut be drivable and have the overall appearence of just a lowered truck with big tires :) kind of a sleeper
I am hopefull this will be done this year but it's really hard to say, I will try to get some pics loaded and document the process just like my dually.
I couldnt get the picts to upload to photo bucket so I added them to my Webshots-http://community.webshots.com/album/561297947ZezRGa?vhost=community (http://community.webshots.com/album/561297947ZezRGa?vhost=community)
Enjoy
Dan
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Hey Everyone
I have been plugging away on this build and its starting to come together finally. I have been able to final install the brakes, the master cylinder, the center section, axels, fuel line, battary cable,and the engine is built except when I was installing it to my run stand I found out I have to pull the oil pan to redrill the Turbo drain lines, I put them close to the rear of the pan and 1 side interferes with the starter.
I should be able to run it this week and post the vid.
Next on the list is to install and start fab work on the turbo's
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i love that gauge set, just my style.
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and way quicker than mid 10's
Ditto.
If you only run 10s on 1000hp I'd have to bet it's due to lack of traction. Seems a lot of money into a powerplant for something that could be done on half the hp...
just my $0.02 :)
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Getting the headers built and the turbo's mounted:)
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I got my Headers complete finally< When I first put the Log Headers together I found out really quick that the spark plugs would not be easily removed so I came up with the idea to install reverse blisters, I hole sawed 2 holes offset cleaned them up, then cut 3/4 exhaust pipe in half and installed them upside down un the holes Welded and cleaned them up. Not as pretty as store bought's but functional :) I think with some coating they will look ok. Installing the Blisters also beefed them up as well.
Next step is to start working the intercooler installation and plumbing.
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impressive to say the least. This will be in the crazy fast category and rated at gpm as opposed to mpg....
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Alright Everyone, I am almost complete on the fabrication Phase, I should be ready to pull the engine next week and run it accross my run stand before I reinstall it for the last time. The Next big purchase is the Tranny rebuild then install the complete package for the last time. I am pretty satisfied the way the intercooler mouting and piping turned out and I am working routing the massive 4" exhaust using Mandrel 90deg, and 45 Deg tubing.
I picked up a CSU Blow through carb and I mounted my Racepumps regulator right next to the carb. Everything will fit under the stock hood :):):):):
I am hoping to have this drivable by christmas and painted by March :)
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Can I ask what made you go with the gen1 engine and not a gen3?
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I already had the Stroker 489 Big Block Chevy and in this truck I wanted to keep the Big Block.
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Ahh nice, understandable. Cant wait to see a video of it running.
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Here is a link to the engine running on my stand less the turbo's as soon as I run it again with the turbo's I will add that vid :)
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Approve!
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Hey Everyone, Just wanted to give a quick update. The Engine is alive and runs great, I ran it on my stand complete with Turbo's and everything checks out perfectly, just got to set valves one last time and stick the engine in:)
here is the Album...Enjoy :)
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Headers Back fromn Ceramic Coating!! They look way better than I ever Expected.
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Looks nice!
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NICE!
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Thanks Guys :) As you know there is not headers availble for these trucks and turbo's so I opted to make a very simple set of log headers. They fit close to the block and are a straight forward design. I have to finish the downpipes they will be ceramic coated as well.
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Cubic, Glad to see someone is making progress on their turbo system (mine has stalled due to other things taking priority of time available). That thing will be a BEAST!
Not for the purpose to pick your build apart, but after much research for mine...I see something that concerns me: Your wastegate placement. Unfortunately it is in a much less than optimum position to do it's job. Since you have the coating done, going ahead & trying it is probably the way to go, but controlling boost very well is unlikely.
The ideal place is on the OUTSIDE of the bend since the flow can't help but hug the outside wall of the pipe & inturn "filling" the gate...second best would be on the top or bottom of the tube angled toward the turbo (direction of flow). Also, the angle out of the gate would be best to be @ a 45* or so to the downpipe so it's going with the flow of the exhaust (like a header evac. tube) using the exhaust to siphon flow out of the gate, not banging into the stream @ 90* & keeping the exhaust IN the gate.
Please don't take offence, just wanted to bring this to your attention in case problems arise controlling/lowering boost...you'll at least have a "heads up" of the possibility. Good Luck with your build! Keep us posted on your progress. Lorne
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Thanks Lorne :) I appreaciate the feedback, this is my first shot at a custon turbo build and its definatlly a learning experence, i'll give it a shot and if I have some issues I will re address. These are all chinese componanants so I am pretty worried about the quality I really just wanted to get the basic system in first then start modifying from there.
My next project is a single turbo 6.0ltr for my Buick Regal T Type daily driver :):):)
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Well it's been a while since I've updated this post, I've got tone some good progress, and I am hoping to be complete less paint by the end if June. I am currently waiting on my tranny to come back from the shop so I have been working on my interior and oak bed.
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Wicked ride Cubic! That beast will fly 8). How many pounds of boost are you gonna run?
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Thanks
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I am not sure of Boost level yet, I want to get it totally on the road, the bugs worked out, and to the Dyno. When I started this build a ton of years ago I had grandios ideas but as I get closer to the end I'd just like to finish it and make some good power :)
I cant beileve how long its been since I've started this rebuild, from the time I started I gotten divorced, changed jobs, closed a plant down, changed jobs again, Installed a cummins in my dually, gotten remarried, bought a Nova, Wreckied my Dually, bought a house....Holy Crap :)
However I am getting really close now and thats all that Matters :)
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Looks great, doing a good job.. 8)
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Thats a lot to go through, these things take time. It'll be awhile before my truck is the way I want it. Good luck!
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It's looking good.. 8)
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Lookin better all the time. 8)
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Looks really good! How do you like those gauges? Do they point too low with those seats installed?
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Thanks guys :)
The gauges sit a little flat , but I am used to it. I have had those seats in and gauges in since the early 90's
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Just down to the finishing touches while waiting on the tranny to come back from the shop:)
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I'm diggin the fuel cell setup.. 8)
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Tacked up my exhaust today, it turned out pretty good so far. 4" straight off the turbo through a couple mandrel bends through a small flow through muffler. There will be no restriction there :) I still need to fab the hangers, cut the tip straight down from the step, and eventually powder coat it
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I am still having transmission problems, I think we troubleshot it down to the full manual valve body, I installed a pressure gauge and I have good pressure at idle but little to no pressure in drive, so the tranny is back out and to the shop, the plan is to give it a good look over and install my factory valve body with a shift kit. Then I'll send the other valve body back to the vendor for inspection and hopefully replacement, guess I could see if they would upgrade me to a transbrake at the same time :)
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Who's manual valve body are you using, if you don't mind me asking??..
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It looks really good but your hood looks like it needs some persuasion.
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It was a hueghes performance, I bought it a few years ago and it sat on the shelf, there probably some corrosion and its got some parts not moving properly.
Yes the gaps still need to be worked , the hood will be coming off for paint along with the bed and fenders, it's been jammed already but that was a few years ago so there are some paint chips that will need addressed as well
My goal is to drive it, dyno it and work the bugs out prior to finish the paint work
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It was a hueghes performance, I bought it a few years ago and it sat on the shelf, there probably some corrosion and its got some parts not moving properly.
Thanks, that's very well possible don't take much to make things stick, just wondered because I used a TCI full manual in my nova and it worked right off, and liked the fact it has engine braking.
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Well I have been working out a lot of boost issues thanks to haulinit (Lorne) it's coming along pretty well I am down to tuning the carb and working through some other issues but as soon as I do I will post a vid. I am hoping to get all the bugs worked out before I finish the body and paint this winter but that all depends in the almighty dollar :(
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Hey guys I finally got the truck to the Dyno and to the track.
After some Timing issues and a set of Bad wastegates I made about 600 to the Wheels in full street trim. My turbo exhaust housing is too small and at 5500 it starts restricting. I run a set of T72's with an .84 A/R i am hoping to replace the exhaust housing if they are availble if not I'll look at replacing turbo's next winter.
First shakedown pass I ran a 12.79 @ 106 with a 2.06 60ft, and second pass I went 11.86 @ 116 with a 2.08 60 ft.
The truck runs straight I have to tune the suspension and on the second pass I had some rocker nuts back off so I ordered a set of valve train studd girdles and I'll get it all put back together and hit the track again in a few weeks.
I believe with this set up i'll be in the mid 11's, once i swap turbo's hopefully 10's
here is my you tube channel with my vids
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBnzu--EqWMGI54Lx5HjDqw (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBnzu--EqWMGI54Lx5HjDqw)
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Very nice video, hopefully you can improve on that.
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Awsome build. I really like seeing these truck race. You can really hear the turbos sing. Love it!!
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Nice run
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Holy Cow, I cant believe its been that long since I logged on :(
Well lots of stuff has changed since. I ended up leaning out this engine and I torched a few pistons. It was a super hot day and I was continuously fighting with my fuel system. I was running a Mechanical Race Pumps which worked great on cold days but with any heat it vapor locked bad.
I wrecked my Cummins swapped square body, I sold my 1966 Nova project and I bought an 07 2500 classic duramax for my daily
The Stepside was taken back apart and I built the engine that was going to go into the Nova. Its a 505 Tall Deck BBC, 4.250 Crank, 6.800 Rods, Diamond Pistons, Merlin Heads, Dart Intake, MSD Ignition, Comp Cams full roller valve train, Air to water intercooler, Water/Meth injection, CSU Blow through Carb, Custom build 2 1/4 primary to 4" slip tube headers and an F2 Cog Procharger.
I also hand build a aluminum Bed Cover added a 8 point cage and in the process of painting it now. Hoping to get it all put back together before the snow flies.
The engine is installed and runs great. I will get the bed back from paint and swap it out with the cab. when the cab gets back I'll get everything assembled and on to the dyno.
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So nice!!
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Looks great. And fast.
Very very fast.
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Can't wait to see it painted. Looks great in primer.
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Beautiful underhood tube work.
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