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Title: Engine Light On
Post by: Unofficial on October 05, 2008, 03:19:50 pm
I noticed that my engine light will come on when driving on the highway or at highway speeds. It will come on for a couple minutes, and then turn off again. Once I get back down to about 25 or 30 mph, it goes back off. I changed my oxygen sensor, but the problem still persists. I recently switched from a 305 to a 350, but I didn't change to the 350 injectors or the 350 computer, but you would think that the light would be on all the time if either of those were the problem. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Engine Light On
Post by: TexasRed on October 05, 2008, 04:18:10 pm
Probably, what codes are you getting? It might be the injectors are not putting enough full in the engine and it's going lean.
Title: Re: Engine Light On
Post by: Unofficial on October 05, 2008, 08:09:07 pm
How do I find out what code I'm getting without that $300 code reader?
Title: Re: Engine Light On
Post by: Captkaos on October 05, 2008, 08:36:00 pm
Put a paperclip in the AB terminals of the ALDL connector under the dash.  It is the 2 in the top righthand position.  turn the switch on and count the flashes.  the first 3 will be 1 - 2  flash for 12.
Title: Re: Engine Light On
Post by: Unofficial on October 05, 2008, 08:45:34 pm
What's the ALDL connector? Do you have any pictures so I can understand what you're talking about better? Do you mean connect the two terminals and the actual engine light flashes? And how do I know what the code means? Is there a list in the service manual or something? Sorry, I'm just new to this.
Title: Re: Engine Light On
Post by: Dragon on October 05, 2008, 10:25:37 pm
What's the ALDL connector? Do you have any pictures so I can understand what you're talking about better? Do you mean connect the two terminals and the actual engine light flashes? And how do I know what the code means? Is there a list in the service manual or something?
If you have a Shop Manual, or even just a Hayne's/Clymer/Chilton's Manual, you can easily find all the information you need in them.....
Title: Re: Engine Light On
Post by: VileZambonie on October 06, 2008, 08:26:32 am
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The ECM incorporates a diagnostic program which, when activated, will flash codes stored in the trouble code memory through the "CHECK ENGINE" lamp. A diagnostic connector, located under the instrument panel, is used to activate the self-diagnosis system. The connector,allows access to system circuits and contains a test terminal which, when grounded with the ignition on and engine stopped, causes stored trouble codes to be flashed on the "CHECK ENGINE" lamp.

When the diagnostic terminal is grounded (jumper terminal "A" to "B") with the ignition on and engine stopped, codes are displayed in numerical order, always starting with Code 12 which indicates that the self-diagnosis system is operating properly. Trouble codes, are displayed in the following manner: Code 12 is displayed by one flash, a short pause, then two flashes and a longer pause. Code 12 will be displayed 3 times in this manner, then any additional codes stored will be displayed 3 times each in a similar manner until all codes have been displayed. Once all codes have been displayed. The process will be repeated as long as the test terminal remains grounded. DO NOT ground the diagnostic terminal until the ignition is "ON" and engine is "OFF" (not running). After trouble codes have been noted, the ground wire should be removed from the test lead and the engine should be started. When the engine is started and there are no other codes except Code 12, the "CHECK ENGINE" light should go out after approximately 5.0 seconds, indicating that the ECM has not detected a malfunction. However, if the ECM detects a current malfunction, the "CHECK ENGINE" lamp will remain illuminated while the engine is running. A trouble code indicates a possible system malfunction. If a trouble code can be obtained, even if the "CHECK ENGINE" lamp is "OFF" when the engine is running, a "SYSTEM PERFORMANCE CHECK" should be performed and the indicated circuit should be inspected.

Use the appropriate diagnostic charts if trouble codes can be obtained with the "CHECK ENGINE" lamp "OFF." A System Performance Check and a thorough physical inspection of the circuit involved should be carried out if any of these codes are evident. Repair as necessary.

Removing battery voltage to ECM terminal "R" for a period of 10 seconds will clear all stored trouble codes. This usually can be accomplished by removing the ECM fuse, if equipped, from the fuse block. In some cases it may be easier to disconnect the negative battery terminal. However, doing so will result in deprogrammed ETR radios, electronic clocks and Trip Computers.

Title: Re: Engine Light On
Post by: DnStClr on October 07, 2008, 11:41:33 am
Unofficial, you can get a code reader for less than $30 at the auto parts store, or on eBay for even better $. Just be sure to get one for pre- 1996. Do a search for Innova 3123. That's the one I have and it's easy to use. It comes with an owners manual of course.
Title: Re: Engine Light On
Post by: Captkaos on October 07, 2008, 04:03:32 pm
You can get a WinALDL that will scan and report codes for less than about $5.
Here is a picture of mine in this post:
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=7711.msg47384#msg47384