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Title: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 12, 2020, 05:48:30 PM
What's happening in your area?

In Connecticut, schools are closing like crazy and everyone is hoarding TP. I'm thinking about hitting the packy and stocking up :)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zieg85 on March 12, 2020, 06:49:14 PM
It is stupid everywhere.  The media has really blown this way out of proportion.  I've seen a couple of interviews with patients that had it.  Less in severity than the 24hr flu.  I can't believe the panic.  Folks are real gall-able.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Shifty on March 12, 2020, 06:54:03 PM
The MSM need to quit screwing with America.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zieg85 on March 12, 2020, 06:55:59 PM
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Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on March 12, 2020, 09:47:34 PM
Z85's post pretty-much sums it up for me.

I have a very sick 78yo woman I care for. (my Mother)  We use Lysol around our house, on a regular basis, for a number of things.  For the last coupla' weeks, I can't even score so much as one can. 


*The whole "toilet paper" thing just boggles the heck out of me.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: ehjorten on March 13, 2020, 08:30:01 AM
It isn't hype and over-reaction guys!  Okay...stocking up on TP is an over-reaction.  It isn't that millions of people are going to die!  It is that the infection rates are really high and community spread is running rampant.  If we don't take proactive measures to reduce the rate of infection, people are going to get sick.  Some will die, but it will overwhelm our healthcare system and people that need care won't be able to get it!  Then more people will die!

China has reached an inflection point in the number of cases.  Their infection rate has slowed down.  That is a good sign!  The last look at the known cases shows that they have about 30 days for a doubling of the number of infected.  As of March 10th in the USA the infection rate doubled in just 2 days.  Yes we don't have the number of cases as in China, but if we don't slow it down, we will see a lot more people infected very rapidly.  And again...a lot of people won't die, but they could be a carrier and give it to someone that is in a high-risk group.  Maybe you give it to your grandma and she dies?!

Also...you don't realize that our healthcare system is in a really vulnerable spot right now!  Healthcare workers can't even get masks!  They just aren't available anywhere.  They are rationing masks and only wearing them for really sick people.  Where do you think our masks come from???  China!  What do you think will happen when all of your doctor's office staff are quarantined for 14 days?  Also...medicines.  There are a lot of medicines that you can't go and get an extra prescription for so that when you are quarantined for 2 weeks you have enough, for example.  Why?  Because the bases for those medicines come from?...you guessed it...China!

Here in the epicenter of SARS-CoV-2, the official name of the virus, Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2.  Yes...it is a type of SARS.  Here in the epicenter in Kirkland, WA where I work, schools are now shutdown in King, Snohomish, & Pierce countries until April 24th.  Boeing white collar workers are all working from home.  Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, all working from home.  University of Washington, Eastern Washington University, local community colleges, all online classes.  Of course, my work at PACCAR goes on!  We are keeping the lights on here in the Seattle Area!  We are talking about working remotely, but for now we are soldiering on and washing our hands religiously!

Finally...one of the single best resources for information about the virus that is both objective and fact-based, and also acknowledges the difficulty in knowing the true population of the infected is: ourworldindata.org/coronavirus (http://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: bd on March 13, 2020, 12:01:14 PM
I concur with Erik.  Although sidestream media is whipping circumstances into a froth to promote an agenda of political bashing to undermine social structure as effectively as they can, the underlying premise of world alarm is sound and potentially devastating if people at large don't apply precautionary judgment in their actions to help slow down the advance of the contagion.  But, that isn't to promote irresponsible overreaction.  People still have to live and carry on with life routines. 

Some good news is as seasonal weather warms our hemisphere, regional coronavirus cases should decrease markedly.  The caveat is that in greatest likelihood it will gain a strengthened foothold in the southern hemisphere.  For all intents and purposes, the current as well as new variants of coronavirus are here to stay and will surge periodically with the advent of cool seasons.  Hopefully, by the next "flu season" an effective vaccine will be ready for broad distribution. 

In the meantime, don't take careless risks.  Rather, employ rational additional precautions to help safeguard yourselves and loved ones.  A question to consider under pandemic circumstances is, "If I can do something to help manage the disease, yet don't when I have that opportunity, and the people I care about most suffer as a result ... am I remiss?"  Simply stated, it can't hurt anybody to be sensible and apply beyond normal precautions in an attempt to help ameliorate and manage the spread of illness when opportunities present themselves.  It is simply one of the responsibilities of living in a society.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 13, 2020, 03:36:35 PM
Well, I'm officially on vacation for at least 2 weeks and possibly longer. There's definitely going to be some economic impacts that will hit us all. Let's just hope we all stay healthy.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on March 13, 2020, 10:46:15 PM
md schools are closed till april, prison life is taking measures to try and prevent anyone from getting it from screening new inmates for 2 weeks to talks about if we do have anything pop up everyone (staff included) will be quarantined. its crazy about the tp. people around here will freak over the thought of snow and buy the tp/milk and bread but since its nation wide you cant even buy tp on amazon. saw someone on facebook selling a roll for $2
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on March 14, 2020, 01:40:40 AM
I wanted to add...

Taking necessary precautions...cancelling or limiting mass gatherings, limiting unnecessary travel, self containment of the sick, early detection and treatment, doing things to strangle the spread of the virus, etc...are ALL prudent and necessary actions.  I take absolutely ZERO exception to any of those things.

But, for the folks who are emptying grocery stores, and panic-buying generators and the like, my message would be, "You're doing it wrong.  You're adding to the problem(s), not the solution(s)."


Just my humble opinion.  Your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Jason S on March 14, 2020, 09:20:24 PM
In my part of the world, schools were out last week for spring break and most will be out this coming week.

After returning back to Texas from a week long spring break vacation with the kids, on the way home we stopped at an Academy Sports to get baseball gear. Since we don't often get to Academy, I went looking around and saw that, with exception of the astronaut ice cream, their freeze dried food section was cleared out (along with other items through the store).

Then had a stop at Walmart Neighborhood Market to get pet food and noticed the canned goods section had been picked over pretty well.  Then noticed a few aisles down that the TP section was wiped clean (pun intended). 

Our trip was to Washington DC and things were fine until Thursday.  There was only one cancellation for a pre-scheduled tour (i.e., Pentagon). We were on the last of the tours for the Capital before they closed off public access. Also the last tour of the last day for the Library of Congress. The signs on the LOC stated they would close on 3/12 and reopen on 4/1.  Smithsonian museums remained open until Friday (our last planned day there) and said they'd be closed today.

Not sure if it was just our flight time today (06:15 am) from DC to Dallas or if it was people abstaining from flight, but our Southwest flight was about 50 persons shy of full capacity.

I reckon we'll wait and see as we work on sorting through spring break photos to print.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zieg85 on March 14, 2020, 10:26:27 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/dean-koontz-book-predicted-coronavirus  see page 312 in picture
Title: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on March 14, 2020, 10:57:45 PM
Wow, Zieg85 thats creepy! Anyway, the sky is not falling. And this is not political. But, I strongly feel that Trump, Pence and the CV task force are doing an incredible job, they are so on top of this thing. It is so encouraging to watch them nearly every day giving us a full update on every phase of this thing. Our President is keeping things in order and bringing folks and communities together. Of course there will always be a few knuckle heads fighting over stupid toilet paper, but that too will pass, deliveries and supplies are in full force. Some folks are acting like this is a natural disaster, like its weather related. Again, I am not speaking left or right, it is very calming and encouraging to see both sides work together on this. Just watching those Dr's speak and our Pres. also, very calm and reassuring, their tone is with high confidence, like they are not missing a beat. I believe this thing will pass sooner than later. I lost $65k on the market, but i know that too will come back with a vengeance. Here in MA, all is shut down, the Govt. is having me work from home, telework. Praying all are well.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: ehjorten on March 16, 2020, 09:53:25 AM
Here is an article that articulates a large part of the issue and why we are having to shutdown events and social gatherings, universities, and in some states now they are temporarily shutting down restaurants and bars!

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-outbreak-testing-delays-60a25ce6-f08d-438f-b294-358e0c300d95.html

I have several family and friends in various states that have confirmed this.  We don't have test kits!  I have family in California.  My sister-in-law and one of her sons had came down with a fever, dry cough, body aches.  They went to the doctor and were told that because they weren't in the high risk category, they wouldn't test them.  My sister-in-law questioned them about not having test kits and they admitted that they didn't have any!  That is just one latest example.  Now whether we don't have test kits because of a lack of a serious and timely response, whether the US government decided not to use WHO test kits, or whether it is just a demand that is higher than production can keep up with, I don't know, but if we don't know who is infected, we can't isolate them and determine who they have been in contact with.  So...we are left with taking more drastic measures to try and slow this thing down.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: bake315 on March 16, 2020, 06:30:36 PM
Well, I'm officially on vacation for at least 2 weeks and possibly longer. There's definitely going to be some economic impacts that will hit us all. Let's just hope we all stay healthy.

I live in the immediate Austin, TX area, and deliberately took last week off (starting 7 March) in anticipation of the SXSW horde descending upon us, as well as those attending events out at our F1 venue.  While those threats never fully materialized, others ultimately have.  My town is on one of two direct corridors between Austin and Houston - Texas' largest hotbed of virus communication.  As a matter of self preservation, I have self-sequestered myself here at my home, leaving only when absolutely essential for A to B trips.  I live alone, so I don't have to worry about kids or spouses.  I have asked my friends to refrain from visiting my home for the foreseeable future, in an effort to preserve the relative safety of its confines.

My biggest reasons for taking such steps are these:  Although I am well below the determined age threshold, I am one of those with who face an elevated risk of life-threatening contamination.  In addition to being a diabetic, a little more than two years ago I contracted a case of the flu; the same one that took a young teacher's life in northern Texas (she was 20-years my junior). Pneumonia ended up setting in, and after an initial 3 days in the ICU fighting for my own life, I spent an additional 10 days in the hospital trying to recover.  While I obviously did, the experience left me with a measure of permanent respiratory damage.  The mere thought of entering a hospital due to illness after those experiences is completely unpalatable to me.

As all of you know, colleges and universities across the country have largely extended Spring Break for another week, with many planning online instruction for the foreseeable future.  However, essential staff must return this upcoming Monday in order to help facilitate this endeavor.  As I work for one of these institutions, I'm more than a little bit apprehensive, with my own history being what it is, about having to work alongside members of my own staff, despite the absence of students.  In an effort to protect them as well as myself, I intend to allow them to use accrued vacation time wherever possible in order to help mitigate any potential problems.  Obviously there is only so much any of us can do, and we must try and depend on those closest to us to do their part in order to slow the progression of this virus.  I learned yesterday that one of our students - not necessarily in our division - was suspected of having symptoms, but is now self-quarantining with their family. 

It doesn't take much for this terrible thing to show up on our very doorsteps, as I have just described, and as our own president himself has now experienced first-hand.  It has transcended politics as well as any and all media outlets, and it was gratifying today to hear him speak out more deliberately and plainly about the continued threat to our country's health, both physically and economically.

I fear the worst is yet to come, and when it does we must trust in the mettle of this country to see us through. We circled the wagons when our enemies were off our coasts in WWII, when they were a mere 90 miles away in the 60's, and on our very soil on 9/11.  We rose up and stood tall then, and I believe we are more than capable of doing it again.

We must keep our heads, and be smart.

Speaking of "heads", I predict an immediate boom in the plumbing services industry, as they go house to house, pulling even more paper towels, coffee filters and even strips of clothing than usual from pipes across the country.

Uh-oh, I think I might have just started a run on coffee filters! ::)

Be safe out there,

bake315
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mr Diesel on March 17, 2020, 04:57:19 PM
Fear and panic. It's out of control. No matter what anyone tells you, it's really just another version of the flu. And unless you have a compromised immune system, your body will fight it off or not even be affected by it. It's not a zombie apocalypse, just the flu. The only way to avoid it is to stay indoors and hide from the world, because if you step outside and your neighbor sneezes the wind will carry the germs over to you and you will be exposed. Every year you try to avoid the common cold and the flu by washing your hands and not having physical contact with people, and every year you either get a cold/flu or your body just fights it off. It's not the plague, just the flu. Here is a good article.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/9/coronavirus-stop-the-hysteria/

Title: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on March 18, 2020, 10:24:50 PM
A little bit of good news: Its been reported China has not had a case in 24 hrs. Is that the truth, i hope so.

It is encouraging to see our president and the CV task force make daily updates. Massive plans are being made daily in so many areas. However, i feel like not watching the news or hearing the radio for two weeks, sick of the added hype and fear. Sick of watching the stock market plunge into the abyss. But, this too shall pass.

ps. mr diesel, that is a great article.

pss. dont listen to npr!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: zieg85 on March 19, 2020, 10:26:22 AM
I am sharing this post because I found the explanation helpful and thought maybe others would too!
Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who donít understand...
It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.
Seasonal flu is an ďall human virusĒ. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.
Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then itís a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isnít human, and the human immune system doesnít recognize it so, we canít fight it off.
Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years itís only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly itís gonna be..
H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. Itís RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.
Fast forward.
Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, ďslipperyĒ
This Coronavirus, not being in any form a ďhumanĒ virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.
And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..
Thatís why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery AF. And itís a lung eater...And, itís already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.
We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.
Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...
And let me end by saying....right now itís hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.
Be smart folks... acting like youíre unafraid is so not sexy right now.
#flattenthecurve. Stay home folks... and share this to those that just are not catching on.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on March 19, 2020, 12:48:02 PM
Breaking news:

Hydrocloroquine, a malaria drug from 1940's has been tested by a French lab, peer reviewed and found to be efficacious in treating Covid-19.

"100% of patients, after 6 days were 'virologically cured"

It's cheap and plentiful, Trump ordered FDA to look into it STAT!

CNBC
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: ehjorten on March 19, 2020, 01:23:08 PM
https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-malaria-drug-coronavirus-fda-1493293
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on March 21, 2020, 06:48:56 PM
https://www.newsweek.com/hydroxychloroquine-malaria-drug-coronavirus-fda-1493293
Sure hope that stuff proves safe and effective!

Psalms 91:3
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on March 22, 2020, 02:45:08 AM
i think its pretty stupid when "everyone" has off and acts like theyre on vacations and it takes the governors to close the beaches like they had to do in Florida and now in Delaware. traffic was crazy the other day when i was trying to leave work. not to mention we now have city folk invading our country lives just to get out of the city and they bring everything with them like the virus and city mentality
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on March 22, 2020, 06:23:32 PM
Yup.

People hoarding and not being considerate of others.  Guns and ammo sales rocketing.  Our own Media fanning the flames of fear and panic.


...It's a pretty humiliating time to be a human.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on March 22, 2020, 07:57:58 PM
i think its pretty stupid when "everyone" has off and acts like theyre on vacations and it takes the governors to close the beaches like they had to do in Florida and now in Delaware. traffic was crazy the other day when i was trying to leave work. not to mention we now have city folk invading our country lives just to get out of the city and they bring everything with them like the virus and city mentality

Is O.C. closed?
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on March 23, 2020, 02:20:32 PM
they did yesterday till april 15th
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Mr Diesel on March 23, 2020, 03:53:42 PM
For those of you in full social distancing mode right now, here are some interesting articles and facts that provide some perspective:

Total U.S. deaths attributed to the China virus as of March 20th: 201
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1101932/coronavirus-covid19-cases-and-deaths-number-us-americans/
Keep in mind this latest China virus started back in 2019, so it has actually been in existence for months now. It is also no coincidence that it is occurring during the same time of year as the flu, given that its cause and behavior is very similar to the flu. Treatment for it is exactly the same as the flu too (except for the latest experimental use of Hydrocloroquine).

Total U.S. deaths attributed to the flu during the 2018-2019 flu season: 34,200
Total U.S. deaths attributed to the flu during the 2017-2018 flu season: 61,000  (which was classified as an epidemic)
https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year
I don't remember people panicking and storming the toilet paper shelves back in 2018. I don't remember anyone warning me to stay indoors and avoid groups larger than 10 people. Maybe I should have been panicking back then and just didn't. Looking back on it now I don't understand how I remained so calm given the epidemic proportions. Maybe it had something to do with the fact this actually happens every year.
The above article has a great quote from a doctor:
Quote
The fact that people are more concerned about COVID-19 than the flu virus is no surprise, says Dr. Adalja. ďAnytime there is a new emerging infectious disease that is shrouded in mystery with a lot of unknowns, it captivates people in a way that a regular virus that people deal with on a yearly basis wonít,Ē he says.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 24, 2020, 07:27:25 AM
Yet they announced another 150 US deaths overnight. I don't believe any of the media sources and data statistics since they can't capture the true picture of what is happening. Let's face it, there isn't enough infrastructure around adequately testing or treating this. I'm sure plenty of people have had it, have it or already died from it, none of which is recorded in stats.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: ehjorten on March 24, 2020, 11:28:53 AM
ourworldindata.org/coronavirus (http://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus)

People don't understand exponential growth, it is true!  The fact that we don't have resources in place to care for the rapid growth is what is causing the issue.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: ehjorten on March 25, 2020, 09:01:31 AM
Yeah...it's just like the flu!

https://apnews.com/b08afe589e0d6dae9469c8211157199c

I have a daughter-in-law that is a nurse in Ohio and the shoot that they are having to do, go without, and hours they are working...yeah, it is just like the flu!  ::)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on March 25, 2020, 01:28:19 PM
NY Metro is coming apart at the seams. Yet they are still holding "coronavirus parties", weddings and such. AND....many of these NY'ers are then going to their second homes in upper VT, NH and ME. A friend up there who delivers mail saw a large sign and it stated "Flatties go home. " I dont blame them for not wanting the careless NY'ers in their small towns.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: ehjorten on March 25, 2020, 02:05:31 PM
Same thing is happening on the West Coast...Portlanders coming in droves to the small coastal communities.  My hometown put the clamps on it and shutdown hotels, motels, parks, campgrounds, and beach approaches.  Told those vacationing there they have 48 hours to vacate and go home!  People came down and cleared the shelves of local markets that had supplies.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on March 25, 2020, 03:24:06 PM
i was listening to the radio and they had one of those people from NY who went to a wedding party and they gave the excuse "it was against their religion to cancel a wedding once it was scheduled". its that type of mentality that can really screw everything up
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on March 25, 2020, 05:05:05 PM
...and (supposedly) New Yorkers are fleeing their city en masse. 


I guess it's suddenly not very hip to live packed like sardines with folks from all over the globe.  Funny how that works.  ;)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 25, 2020, 06:41:11 PM
Don't even get me started on these people...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on March 25, 2020, 07:02:51 PM
they did yesterday till april 15th

Wow.  Never heard of that happening---except during hurricanes.

For those that aren't familiar, "O.C." means Ocean City:  A beach resort town "near" Irish and me.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: bake315 on March 25, 2020, 10:33:38 PM
Can't even buy a frikkin' can of tomato soup around here.  Frikkin' hoarders...  People don't seem to get that if they just calm the heck down, the food supply (and the toilet paper supplies) are fine.  Take a breath!  No household needs 40 gallons of Purell! Resume shopping the way you always have, and let the supply chains catch up.  Stop grabbing all of everything you can lay your hands on!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: bake315 on March 25, 2020, 10:37:41 PM
"it was against their religion to cancel a wedding once it was scheduled".
That is one of the most ridiculous excuses I have heard yet!
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on March 26, 2020, 10:09:51 PM
yeah...Religion is going to come under unusual scrutiny soon...
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on March 26, 2020, 10:32:08 PM
I'm thinking about breaking-out a bottle of Jack, watching the news, and taking a shot every time they say "Coronavirus" or "COVID 19".
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 27, 2020, 08:22:34 AM
Thinking about it? Sounds like you've got some catching up to do.  8)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Shifty on March 27, 2020, 09:27:05 AM
Thinking about it? Sounds like you've got some catching up to do.  8)
Can't catch the virus if you're full of alcohol.... ;)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 27, 2020, 11:36:25 AM
Follow Ozzy's recommendations:

Bite the head off bats and lower the blood count in your alcohol system  :P
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on March 27, 2020, 02:53:12 PM
Crikey! Make sure they're not Wuhan bats!!  :o

Title: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on March 27, 2020, 10:24:37 PM
Word of advice,,,Don't eat bats on a stick from Ching-Ching...

I know, sorry...its an npr article.


https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/01/31/800975655/why-theyre-called-wet-markets-and-what-health-risks-they-might-pose
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 28, 2020, 08:38:14 PM
So ironically the Chinese restaurant near here is closed. It's bizarre because they are always super busy. Wondering if they had an outbreak and are keeping it hush. Everyone thinks they have it... I went to the gas station, everyone is looking at each other like weirdos. Went to the package store, same deal. We all had blue gloves on, I hope this isn't the new norm.   ???
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on March 29, 2020, 12:15:06 AM
Our City Council is filled with a buncha' morons.  But, when I found Spec's open the other day, I knew that the Council at least had a basic understanding of the term, "Essential Business".

Parents forced to be around their rug-rats 24/7, in the absence of alcohol, would cause a panic and emergency like no other.  :o



EDIT- Here in Tejas, we can only buy beer and wine at grocery stores...none of the hard stuff.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Irish_Alley on March 29, 2020, 02:57:20 PM
delaware has been in a "state of emergency" closed all beaches and tourist attractions. they even went as far and closing all non-essential places too. but then had to redefine "essential" and its BS, they include florist into the essential category and a lot other places. pretty much they want people to go to work but nothing else, no having fun with others only at home. needless to say i have a few hundred rounds of 10mm coming in the mail and should be here in a few days lol
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on March 29, 2020, 05:03:01 PM
If they closed package stores there would be some seriously bad stuff happening. lol
Title: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on March 29, 2020, 09:05:59 PM
I got those nasty looks too at Wmart and Lowes. If you even clear your throat people get out of your way. I think if you cough or sneeze they call the police. lol

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/be31d29407914b4e1b3a95010cd0e4bb.jpg)
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JAH on April 03, 2020, 12:04:35 AM
I was taking the gooseneck back to the Farm today, and heard a figure of "55%".  That's how much liquor sales have boomed over the norm in the last few weeks.

I was switching through the channels when I heard that on the radio.  I didn't hear if that figure was just for San Antone (Bexar County) or nationwide.



*On an unrelated note, the silt in the barn (a mixture of cow manure and Texas sandy loam) is worse than the sand at the beach.  My 9200# Ram chassis, with the 5500# gooseneck attached, imitates a submarine in the stuff.  So, after dealing with the axle wrap, I went to engage the 4WD (to back the trailer into its parking slot) and immediately noted that the shifter was floppy.  For any of you who have owned Rams, the grommets (that hold the linkage between the in-cab shifter and the lever on the transfer case) sh__ the bed (after 7 years).  Lovely.  >:(

The rainbow after the storm was that the linkage let go at the end of the shifter, and came to rest on a cross-member.  So, lucky for me, I didn't lose the linkage.  Woo-hoo! :D
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on April 03, 2020, 07:37:48 PM
I was taking the gooseneck back to the Farm today, and heard a figure of "55%".  That's how much liquor sales have boomed over the norm in the last few weeks.

See, people aren't as dumb as we thought.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on April 03, 2020, 08:37:59 PM
This is just one person's perspective on the whole "crisis."  And while i don't necessarily agree with EVERY one of his points, i think it's one of the clearest explanations lately.   Also, i give John Oliver a lot of credibility.

i would link all three parts, so far of his coronavirus videos, but there is some "spicy" language in them and i know Chris doesn't like me providing those types of links.

So, if it would be alright, i would link the Last Week Tonight 'Tube page and you can easily find parts 1,2, and 3:

https://www.youtube.com/user/LastWeekTonight
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: Stewart G Griffin on April 04, 2020, 08:04:29 PM
P.S.
We are under lockdown/stay-at-home orders here in the balto/dc area.   Since last tuesday, i think.

Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on April 05, 2020, 05:43:42 AM
 Late to the party.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: VileZambonie on April 07, 2020, 06:26:36 PM
So a woman who works in our school system died from coronavirus today. We all want to believe it's fake news but seems to be potent enough to take out anyone. She was 50 I believe.
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: roundhouse on April 08, 2020, 10:27:05 AM
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/01/825107853/hundreds-of-covid-19-cases-inundate-georgia-hospital

It depends on where you are
Some places are in really bad shape


And the preppers and survival folks are looking pretty smart right now.

As we have all learned, if you donít already have what you need, youíre not going to be able to buy it when you decide you do need it.

I grew up in a rural Appalachian area with frequent power outages and sometimes big snowstorms
    Everyone had a way to keep warm that didnít require electricity and plenty of canned food, usually the home made canned kind in glass jars.
   And everyone had plenty of guns and ammo, and several five gallon cans of gasoline.  My father never brought a vehicle home with less than 3/4 tank of gas.  Every gas station within 50 miles closed at 10 PM.
    If you had to leave in the middle of the night for an emergency and didnít have a full tank, you werenít going anywhere .



I didnít stock up on T paper, but I did get some more .223, .38, .380, and 9mm and in the same trip, hit the grocery store for bacon, beans and bread.

   Some places have closed the gun stores while at the same time emptying their jails and announcing that no one will be arrested for anything short of murder.
    What could possibly go wrong ?

Youíve seen how people act trying to buy T paper, wait till the grocery stores are empty of actual food, and the gas stations are dry for a few days.  Or their EBT food stamp card stops working .
Title: Coronavirus
Post by: roundhouse on April 08, 2020, 10:40:55 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/news/farmers-are-panic-buying-to-keep-america-e2-80-99s-95-million-cows-fed/ar-BB12jy9v

The food supply chain could collapse soon
   The ethanol refineries are shutting down since the gasoline sales have dropped so much .
  The waste from the ethanol refineries is a major ingredient in animal feed.

The American consumers and businesses have to be the stupidest in the world.
  Allowing a communist nation halfway around the world to steal all your manufacturing including 95% of medical supplies like masks and gloves and 98% of all pharmaceutical medicines and feedstocks is a really really stupid thing.

All this ďjust in time ď inventory delivery is going to come back to haunt us all.
   If the trucks stop rolling, this country is toast.

Some states like PA have actually closed their rest areas so the truckers have nowhere to park and rest.
Really? This is the govts idea of smart?

Alot the truck stop restaurants are closed, so the drivers have to park and go into grocery stores with the hordes of people , half of whom Probabaly have the carona, and stock up on food To take with them on their run.

Itís almost like China did this on purpose. Theyíve already knocked out several aircraft carriers with their virus, and who knows how many other ships and bases are out of commission.



And how about this genius idea https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wthr.com/article/vermont-orders-walmart-target-stop-selling-non-essential-items-store%3famp


I saw an article , canít find the link now
That was about a company that makes medical masks and they could expand and make more but wonít, because in the last H1N1 event they did expand and as soon as it was over all the hospitals went back to buying cheaper masks  from China.

Owner says if he spends millions and expands now to meet the demand , he will just  get left holding the bag when this is over , and all the hospitals start buying masks from the commies again
Title: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on April 08, 2020, 10:11:23 PM
Huh...so thats it? Humanity is going to end in a few weeks? Not so! (at least not until daniel's 70'th week anyway)

No deliveries will stop, no groceries stores will close, nor wall mart, nor lowes/home depot. The trucks will keep moving.

I think we'll be in real good shape by June 1st. One blip of good news and stocks seem to soar. It appears the economy is a dormant volcano getting quite warm.

Not going to fear or let doom and gloom ruin my day.


II Tim 1:7
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: JohnnyPopper on April 09, 2020, 05:08:57 PM
Phil,

Didn't Daniel's 70th week (of years)  end when Cornelius accepted the 'truth'.

Look out for the fulfillment of 1 Thess. 5:3-4

Jpop
Title: Re: Coronavirus
Post by: philo_beddoe on April 10, 2020, 12:41:28 PM
Phil,

Didn't Daniel's 70th week (of years)  end when Cornelius accepted the 'truth'.

Look out for the fulfillment of 1 Thess. 5:3-4

Jpop

Glad you asked JP, and not to derail from coronavirus, and I won't, nor will I mention this anywhere else on a chevy forum, this is a one time thing to answer your question. Therefore... from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem (Ezra 1:1-5) to the cutting off of the Messiah (the cross), is 69 weeks/483 years. The final week (70th), begins the moment the Antichrist signs a covenant with Israel to rebuild the temple. Soon after, (possibly hours,days) we will have the "rapture", Christ will remove all his saints from earth (all and any human that has repented of their sins and trusted the Lord Jesus Christ as Savior). At the end of the 70th week (7 years of tribulation on earth which will be like 9/11 X 10 on every street in the world, prepping or a bug-out bag will do nothing), the Lord will return to Earth to rule and reign for 1000 years, this is the millennium, a new restored perfect earth with obviously a perfect world government system which will be operated by one person....you guessed it. Then after that we are ushered into eternity. That pretty much wraps it up. Therefore, to answer your question...no particular event officially "ends" the 70th week, just time.

Yes, I know this is a chevy forum, and as stated, i will NOT get into spiritual things here unless someone asks AND I am permitted by the administrators. I know, folks get a little agitated on the topics of religion and politics, I get it.