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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2008, 08:00:04 am »
I wouldn't build an engine around an intake manifold. Sell your Weiand and get yourself the dual plane and you will be thankful. I had a 400 sbc that the guy put a "Torker 2" intake manifold on because he thought it would have more torque. The thing was a pig and was much better stock. I never understood why they named that intake the torker lol. Anyway I put a dual plane high rise, and this cam click here and the guy couldn't believe the difference. As far as getting lucky, I've built so many engines I couldn't even count how many and I've had the worst luck with Edelbrock and comp. Edelbrock I've had 2 cams that when degreed were off more than 8°s! Every single summit cam I've used degreed dead on. If it's just luck I've been one lucky duck. 
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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2008, 10:41:05 am »
just keep checking Ebay just found my Cam and Lifter kit for 130 with free shipping :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=250342710028

I did check Summit I did not like any of the numbers and this one is a "name brand"

Not so sure I would have bought from that seller, they have some pretty bad feedback..
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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2008, 12:38:15 pm »
just keep checking Ebay just found my Cam and Lifter kit for 130 with free shipping :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=250342710028

I did check Summit I did not like any of the numbers and this one is a "name brand"

Not so sure I would have bought from that seller, they have some pretty bad feedback..

I only saw one neg feedback for something being dirty if the cam is dirty I wont cry :)

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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2008, 02:25:44 pm »
I wouldn't build an engine around an intake manifold. Sell your Weiand and get yourself the dual plane and you will be thankful. I had a 400 sbc that the guy put a "Torker 2" intake manifold on because he thought it would have more torque. The thing was a pig and was much better stock. I never understood why they named that intake the torker lol. Anyway I put a dual plane high rise, and this cam click here and the guy couldn't believe the difference. As far as getting lucky, I've built so many engines I couldn't even count how many and I've had the worst luck with Edelbrock and comp. Edelbrock I've had 2 cams that when degreed were off more than 8°s! Every single summit cam I've used degreed dead on. If it's just luck I've been one lucky duck. 

See I'm so confused right now.  I understand the purpose of the dual plane manifold but that cam's operating range 2,200 and 5,700.  Isn't that a little high for a 5000 pound truck? The duration is fine but I still think my truck would be a pig even with a dual plane manifold.....
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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2008, 03:31:50 am »
I've decided to try and find a dual plane manifold but I'm still confused as to why I should get that summit cam....
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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2008, 09:18:45 am »
a dual plane intake and this cam is your best bet for low end power http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=sum-k1102&searchinresults=false&Ntk=KeywordSearch&DDS=1&N=700+4294908216+4294840140+115 but it won't have a choppy idle like you want...btw I wouldn't doubt it if this cam is just a rebadged edelbrock camshaft  ;)
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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2008, 10:42:58 am »
I've decided to try and find a dual plane manifold but I'm still confused as to why I should get that summit cam....

The reason I suggested a summit cam was $$$ as you indicated you were trying to save $.
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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2008, 11:04:14 am »
btw I wouldn't doubt it if this cam is just a rebadged edelbrock camshaft  ;)

I've noticed that Edelbrock, GMPP, Crane, Summit, and Melling all offer that exact cam.  I wouldn't doubt that they are all made in the same factory.
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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2008, 11:37:22 am »
The reason I suggested a summit cam was $$$ as you indicated you were trying to save $.

That's not what I'm concerned about.  I was referring to the duration and its operating range.  I think it might be too high for my application.
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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2008, 06:18:00 pm »
I think in his earlier post, Vile wasn't necessarily recommending the K1105 cam for you.  He was mainly illustrating the difference the dual plane manifold made over the single.
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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2008, 06:24:42 pm »
You are correct I wasn't telling him to pick that cam although that cam performs nice for mild applications with a pretty nice sound and decent idle. I ran that cam in a 350 I built for my 84 K5. I had 2.02 heads with 72cc chambers, flat tops, dual plane high rise. It was in front of a 700r4 with 35" tires and 3.73's. It worked nicely especially considering I offroaded it and blasted down the highway at about 85mph every day.

When you chose a cam there are lots of things to consider as you already know but with experience you'll get to know what combinations work best for what.
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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2008, 06:42:50 pm »
You are correct I wasn't telling him to pick that cam although that cam performs nice for mild applications with a pretty nice sound and decent idle. I ran that cam in a 350 I built for my 84 K5. I had 2.02 heads with 72cc chambers, flat tops, dual plane high rise. It was in front of a 700r4 with 35" tires and 3.73's. It worked nicely especially considering I offroaded it and blasted down the highway at about 85mph every day.

When you chose a cam there are lots of things to consider as you already know but with experience you'll get to know what combinations work best for what.

Well I'm pretty sure I have the cam nailed down to that comp I chose. Do you think a 1968 stock dual plane manifold would be just as good as an aftermarket dual plane intake?
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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2008, 06:59:27 pm »
You really can't beat the modern designs. They help atomize the fuel better, have truer runner length and better port design, light weight etc. Velocity and flow is key to making good power and minimizing turbulence in the port yet maintaining an atomized a/f mixture at the same time for good combustion and maximum power.
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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2008, 07:14:58 pm »
You really can't beat the modern designs. They help atomize the fuel better, have truer runner length and better port design, light weight etc. Velocity and flow is key to making good power and minimizing turbulence in the port yet maintaining an atomized a/f mixture at the same time for good combustion and maximum power.

Yea that's true.  I got offered a quadrajet and a stock 68 intake for $75 but I already have a Edelbrock 1405, I just need a nice newer intake.
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Re: Cam Suggestion
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2009, 11:02:50 pm »
this cam fits your needs desription. Crane 274HO6. 218@.050 .450 lift on a 106LSA. The 106 LSA will give you a choppy idle. I`ve never used it but alot of guys on another board I go to have and they like it.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=CRN%2D100172&autoview=sku

you should be able to find a used performer rpm for abour $50 or so. Are you sure your at 10:1? What is your deck height, piston type, head gasket thickness and head gasket bore? Most people actually have less compression than they think.
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