Don't mess with a new mother protecting her child.

[TexasRed]

as long as there are criminals walking the streets, we need more prisons...i'd gladly pay (yes i know who pays for prisons) for more prisons to have safe streets and no crime. If i had my way, more tax money would go to prisons than to disability benefits and welfare---put those people to work...there are desk jobs at prisons too for the disabled. 

Prisons don't bring economic prosperity. If they did, we should all go to prison! Yay! Jobs!

Here's a short video that I'd like you to see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG3AKoL0vEs

We can also discuss striking the root, and not the branches as well.

[Lt.Del]

Texas, what did i do to you?  you are so dang critical of EVERYTHING i say! And literal too!
Money going to workers is better than money going to couch potatoes for free--that does equal a 'better' economy than the alternative.   And, getting criminals off the street is great--not a revolving door, let them do real time so your family will be safe.
Now, go ahead and say something against what i just said, as usual.  Checkmate.     

[TexasRed]

Well, there's the problem of the victim paying twice, both to the predator when s/he was victimised, but then also to house the cretin in a place which has the tendency to harden them. It'd be nicer to have somewhat kind of like the situation that CIA guy found himself in Pakistan, the family of the man he murdered was paid several millions (although with tax payer money or possibly drug money the CIA made). Of course, if everyone is armed then, the murder rate will probably drop. No, I actually don't have a problem with a serial killer having guns, as long as his/her victims have one too. Serial killing is about power. A .38 to the head doesn't make one feel very powerful. Plus some serial killers like BTK wore a badge too. LOL.

Don't take my criticisms too personal. I'm asking you to do something.

And by the by, I'm more of a checkers person.

[78 Chevyrado]

The death penalty needs to make a big comeback.  I'm happy she did what she did and for once they aren't pressing charges against the victim.  Good for her. 

As far as the everyone should have a gun argument, if everyone had a gun (the great equalizer)  people wouldnt be so quick to break into peoples homes or even rob them.  yes some would get into stupid fights with them but they do that now anyway.  just make the punishment for such behavior super-severe. 

All the people doing stupid crap with guns are already doing it, like the criminals, all more guns could do is deter more criminals from doing stuff or at least make their job more scary.

[Lt.Del]

All the people doing stupid crap with guns are already doing it, like the criminals, all more guns could do is deter more criminals from doing stuff or at least make their job more scary.

couldn't have said it better myself, Kenny.

[Blazin]

I will start by saying I carry, every day! That being said, just paying attention to ones surroundings, and knowing whats going on is the greatest defense against being victimized. Knowing what to look for, recognizing a perp, or a potentially bad situation before they act, or it becomes volital.
 
 I was involved in a situation in 1998 where I drew my Glock 17 on three dirt bags. Two of which were known local scum bags. Turns out the third was wanted out of Virginia for a long list of crimes / warrants. Two of them attacked a buddy of mine on his front step while I was standing right there. While the one from Virginia was rolling around on the ground with my buddy, the two locals, that were brothers wanted to mix it up with me. The younger one being about 15 at the time, the older one about 21 or 22 ish. The older one had just been released from the hospital where he had been in a coma for 2 weeks from a car wreck, he was a passenger in his sisters boyfriends truck when they flipped it over several times. ( They were trying to out run a state cop, after steeling a dozen cases of beer! ) After exchanging words, shoving him back away from me, and trying to break up the two on the ground. He still wanted to go with me. Not the first time we had had conflicts as they were my buddies neighbors. They had stolen from him, and about every one else on the street in the past etc. My thoughts were one is under age, the other one is going to hit the dirt and kivy when I punch him in the head! He still had stitches from about the top of his skull all the way down to below his ear from the head injury he sustained in the crash. I drew my weapon, and chambered a round. That perked their ears up a little bit! He asked if I was going to shoot him, I replied I'm not afraid to use it. When they heard that they gathered up the third low life, and ran like school girls. 
The local  cop ( use the term cop loosely ) had allready been there before my buddy, and I had got there. We were at my shop replacing the clutch in his car, he invited me to his house for food when we finished. It was 1:00 AM, and we had not had any dinner trying to get his car done. My buddies wife had called the police earlier because they were partying at midnight, their kids had school, and she work the next day. Local cop couldn't be bothered to run an ID check on the guy from out of state. Whole thing could have been avoided if he had, as he was wanted.
Local cop shows up with the calvery to a fight that was all over. We called him as my buddy ended up with a broken nose and wanted to press charges. They lugged the guy from Virginia, took my hand gun, and the local cop covered for the older brother saying his mother said he wasn't around town at all that night. It was somewhat well known that the local cop was keeping the mothers bed warm for years prior to this night! I thoughtfully, and politely ( NOT ) brought that up in front of the state cops in discussion too that night!! 
Virginia said they would extradite the guy. Next day the judge let him out on $100 cash bail!
Two weeks later My buddy got charged with mutual combat. I was arrested for criminal threatening with a deadly weapon! Was on $30,000 PR bail for a year, and a half. The day before my court date I got a letter in the mail saying no indictment sought, not enough evidence to prove a crime was committed.
 Took me almost another year to get my 17 back, and when I did both sites were broken off of it, and all 18 rounds of ammo were missing! ( Thank you New Hampshire State Police )

 Would I take the same action again?   
 Probably! 
 Knowing a little better now, I might recognize the total scope of things first, and try to avoid the conflict before it escalated to that point.

 Also, I chose a public defender, probably one of the best decisions I have ever made in my entire life up to this point! The lawyers I spoke with wanted a big pile of cash, and said they would plee bargin it out for me!

I am all for using deadly force when you have no other options. If more people stood up for them selfs instead of being nambi pambis that think its the police, and or other peoples job to stand up for them, or protect them. We most likely wouldn't be in such a mess as a country!

[Irish_Alley]

there was another case a week ago I think in Florida but some punk shot a 18 year old in the leg or something like that cant remember all the details but I think the perp was standing over the guy he shot in the leg and the mother had enough time to run in her house and grab her gun and kill the perp. I love stories with happy endings . but I will say this some of you know I work for a state prison. and if you think of it I pay a bit of my own salary with taxes. I forget the numbers it’s been a couple years ago but inmates cost the state 34k a year we get paid 32k a year. when I see a inmate go home I tell them I dont want to see them again, most the time its the older ones who been locked up 15+ years that I wont see again its the young dumb ones who violate or do something stupid with in a month of being released. never had I had to pull a weapon out on someone come to thing about it the last fight I was in was in school. do I need a weapon? probably not but when the time comes that I do ever need one (ie. someone is about to cause serous harm to me or my family) then heck yes I would like to have something strapped to my hip or a shotgun close by. usually have one in every room of the house and shells near by. but that’s going to change with the little one getting ready to start crawling around. might just mount them to the walls about 7' up it will take him a while to reach them and by then hopefully he will have enough brains not to touch them unless he needs to. Permits for weapons should  require hunters safety classes. They teach you the basics. I used to play with my moms double barrel 4.10 when I was a kid and when I say play I mean taking it apart cleaning it and putting it back together lol

[Blazin]

My father was a tool, and die, machinist by trade. He worked for Sturm Rugar in Newport N.H. I can remember Bill Rugar coming to our house for dinner several times a year. He would always bring several models of the firearm they were having problems with in production. He would leave them for my father to tinker on, and work out the bugs. I always say he was a gunsmith by love of guns and his own nature. He did everything from repairs to building custom rifles. When I say build I mean he started with a German Mauser bolt action receiver. He machined his own bolt. he machined his own barrel, including the rifling. He took a block of wood, and turned into a beautiful stock.
I grew up in a house that at any one time had 150 plus guns in it between his, and his customers. they were all acesable to me even as a child. I knew better than to mess with them unless he was around. Once I got to be about 9 or 10 I had my own guns, and could use them without supervision but not with my friends around.
Firearms are second nature to me, as they should be to all red blooded Americans!!!!

[Lt.Del]

wow, you've actually met William B. Ruger?  In your house?  wow. He and Alexander Sturm did indeed start what would later become Sturm, Ruger and Co, but commonly just called Ruger since he designed most of the firearms after Sturm died in '51. He was inspired by the WWII era German Luger 9mm gun.  Made a .22 version and pretty much launched his company around 1950.   Quite a story.
To have a connection to that is awesome.  The talents your dad had are a fading art. 
Even Samuel Colt hired a gunsmith to perfect his ideas prior to patent, John Pearson.
I too was around guns ever since i was a kid.  growing up in the country, never thought it was a big deal--and it wasn't.  Now it seems so many people are so afraid of guns because of what they see in the news and whatever, it's a shame.  Guns are your friend and can protect you!  Guns never kill anyone, people do.
I went to a gun show today and was pleased that so many people were buying weapons...the computerized background checking system was slowing down due to the volume of checks.  Its great to see so many buying weapons.  Glad to see so many people are tired of the advantage the criminals have.  God made humans, Samuel Colt made them equal.

[Blazin]

Yes, the last time I saw Bill Rugar was about 94 at my fathers funeral.

[Lt.Del]

Ruger himself died in '02, but left quite a legacy, with the help, I am sure, of people like your dad.  Though I don't have one, Rugers are some nice pieces of iron.   

[Blazin]

My next two hand guns are going to be a Ruger Super Black Hawk 44 Mag. I also want a Glock 40 cal.

[Engineer]

Praise the LORD, and pass the ammunition.

[Lt.Del]

I also want a Glock 40 cal.

Ah, great choice.  I carry a G 23 .40 cal. for my service weapon and conceal carry off duty with it. Great size and power.  It is a compact model of the G 22 .40 cal which we used to carry.  I bought my service G 22 from the department--slightly bigger therefore slightly harder to conceal.  I would not want to go the biggest size of .40 cal, the G 35 with a  5" barrel.  I picked up one of those to hold it at the Gun Show i went to yesterday and it is a monster.  It is for shooting competitions and sports.

The G 23 is a great weapon.  Smaller than the G 22 and, though i have big hands, it isn't too small for my grip and i qualify consistantly with with 99%.  The harder courses i average 96% when i became LE range instructor certified.  I love that gun and will buy it from the dept when we go to the next weapon.  I have shot so many rounds with it, several thousands, that I need to put a new recoil spring in it. 

If you are indeed considering Glocks, look into the Generation 4 models.  The have three sets of backstraps and ambidextrous mag release button--on both sides of grip for left handed shooting and a double recoil spring supposedly able to last 5000 rounds before replacing.

I am considering a .45 ACP model of Glock, but, they don't have a compact model yet.  they have the G 21, kind of big, and they have a subcompact--G 39--may be too small for me.  But, I'll probably get the G 21 Gen 4 model.  There are several youtube vids of these guns.   

Of course, i still want a Colt 1911 pre WWI model .45 ACP.  And a Colt  1860 Single Action Army .44 cal. I saw some yesterday and almost pulled the trigger (pardon the pun), but, i can't spend that money yet.     

[Blazin]

I have a first year G 17. I have had that gun since 92.
I also bought G 26 last year in April. Its nice because it hides better, but is a tad small for my hand.
I have been looking at both the G 22, and G 23.