G-Wash "Heavy Duty Hydrophobic" car wash soap?

[IdahoMan]

Anybody ever heard of or used this stuff?

Looking for a very mild/safe car wash soap to wash my truck with. (That's safe for the Truck's paint, not the earth or me)


-IdahoMan

[bake74]

     Is this what you are talking about ?

http://g-oilaustralia.com/index.php/other-products/automotive/heavy-duty-hydrophobic-car-wash.html
     I question the beading up and rolling off statement.  Spot free water and rain-x will do the same thing but will not clean by themselves.  Also it says it has "american grown base oils", what does that even mean ?

     The link for the MSDS is not working which raises my eyebrows.
     Soaps and chemicals to wash with have 2 basic functions.
      #1:  Soap (weather it be dish soap or car wash soap,etc), is designed to attack the water supply and start softening it.  (All manufactures have additives that do this in any kind of soap for washing).   This is why you hear if you have soft water in your house you use less soap in the dishwasher, washing machine, etc.
     #2:  Soap then goes after what you are trying to wash.  What you are trying to wash and what is on said item matters.  Let's take a vehicle since that is what we are talking about.  You go mudding and want to wash your truck.  You would want a soap that will lift the mud and dirt off first (as this soap you are looking at claims) instead of attacking it and driving it deeper into the paint.
     The second example, you take a road trip and get home and have bugs or tar all over your truck.  You go grab your car wash soap and start washing.  This will not work, you might get the top layer of bugs off, but you are not getting it clean.  Bugs and tar from the road are protein based.  It needs a soap that will attack the protein molecules and break them down so they can be removed.
     The third thing I will mention.  All soaps will have a heat rating.  No most of them you will not be able to grab the bottle and find out what it is.  This is what the MSDS sheet is for.  Butyl is added to a lot of commercial soaps to make it hotter and react faster so the dwell time is not as long.  Butyl is not good for clear coats in heavy doses.  Ask me how I know this.    Look any butyl soap and one of the first things it says is wear protective equipment, IE gloves, face shield, etc.  Now the stuff you buy at the store, if it has any is going to be a minuet amount.
      Part of my business for the last 26+ years has been selling commercial grade soaps of all kinds.  So I have experimented with enough to know the difference between cleaning something and going, @$@#, I just took off the clear coat. 
      Not to teach a whole lesson on vehicle soaps, thought you might want some things to look out for.  the biggest thing you should be looking for is the heat rating of the soap and what is in it chemically.  Most store bought soaps are going to be safe for paint, unless otherwise noted.  And like I said, what you are trying to get off will determine what works best for you. 
      Be careful of buying off a company that could be selling commercial strength soap.

[roger97338]

If you want to truly pamper your vehicle, skip the ordinary car wash SOAP, and find yourself some automotive SHAMPOO! The stuff I just looked at was almost $30 for 16 ounces, but I'm willing to bet that when someone is so into their paint, they start a company to make auto shampoo, it's an above average product.

Something I recently tried, and do NOT recommend is the Rain-X brand of car wash soap. Normally, I use Mothers, but nobody in this little town had any, and washing needed to be done. I tried the Rain-X because I love their signature product. The car wash soap smells like a stale meth lab. I've seen things that aren't soap make more foam than it did. And it didn't feel slippery, like soap normally does. It felt like rubber sole shoes on a gymnasium floor. I used it once, poured it out, and when I went to send Rain-X an email stating my displeasure, I found out it's now owned by Quaker State.

The next soap I got, because it's like Mothers is boycotting my zip code or something, was Meguiars. It doesn't smell as good as Mothers - which smells like bubble gum - but it isn't an unpleasant scent. The bubbles though....wow! The corner of my yard that I dumped my buckets when I was done, still had foam on the ground the next day, 12 hours after I dumped it out.

Not that bubbles are the defining standard for car wash soaps....maybe bake74 will have some facts to add to my theories and conjectures.

For my car care info, I've been going to http://www.autogeek.net/. Some of the lengths these guys go to make me look at the things I obsess over, and realize I'm normal and well adjusted.

Also, if you love your truck's paint, become familiar with detailing clay. If you've not heard of it, nor used it yet, it is phenomenal! I feel like I've abused every car that I've ever waxed without claying it first.

[bake74]

Not that bubbles are the defining standard for car wash soaps....maybe bake74 will have some facts to add to my theories and conjectures.

     "Bubbles" as stated is from 2 different things.  1:  The chemical composition is creating a high suds (bubbles) solution.  2:  They have added a "foaming" agent so you can see the bubbles, as not all chemicals are inherently bubbly.
     If you are washing in your driveway and going down the drain then you have no concern how it makes bubbles.  But say you own a car wash in CA.  (or somewhere else that they make you have a percentage of recycled water that you use).  It is important to you to knowhow&what is making the bubbles. 
     There is another thing about chemicals and recycling systems.  Weather it be a discharge or recycled water system, it matters what type of chemical you use.  You will want what they call a "quick release" soap.  Meaning that soap bonds with water molecules.  So you want a soap that will release quickly from the water molecules and "drop out" of the water before it makes a loop through the recycled system.  Otherwise the recycled system gets plugged up and will not work, which causes more maintenance and cost $. 
     Citrus based soaps and chemicals are good for cleaning, but are terrible for recycling systems.  They just gum everything up.
      So some are you are probably asking why the heck I know this crazy stuff.  My company is an environmental company that deals with waste water streams of any kinds.  We manufacture, sell, and repair the equipment that almost every company in CA. and other states uses to clean waste water so it is within legal limits to send back to the waste water processing plants.  You ever wonder where all the sinks, showers, and toilet water from your house goes, it doesn't just go back to the ground.  Unless you have a leech field.  If you live in city limits it gets treated.
     We also do water softeners, pressure pumps, steam cleaners, bio remediation,wash tanks etc. etc. anything to do with water, you get the idea.  And yes I went to schooling for this stuff.

[Irish_Alley]

a little off topic but you start talking about the waist water and it brought up some memories i thought i would share. done some work for waste water plants in rehoboth beach de. i dont know why but i know most the water is treated it still freaks me out and i cant go near the stuff. cant stand to touch stuff around there also. before my prison job and knowing how many inmates carry hep hiv aids and others i became very scared what i touch how often i wash my hands. was at the hospital watching a inmate who had a catheter and the nurse emptied it and spilled his urine all over the floor. then just wipes it up with a paper towel and laughs about it. knowing he had hep hiv and aid i was freaking out, so i grabbed their rubber gloves and those wipes that kill everything and start wiping everything down. after seeing a nurse that careless it changes the way i think about other being careless.

[bake74]

     And you wonder why hospitals cause infections in people that did not have them before visiting.  I have to be feeling really bad before I step into a hospital.