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1976 truck dying while turning
« on: June 23, 2015, 05:16:56 pm »
I have a friend bringing over their 1976 chevy truck 4x4 3/4 ton 350 manual.  The issue is the truck recently starting dying every time they turn.  I have never heard this happen before.  Any tips on where to start?  I was thinking about replacing the power steering pump and belts and going from there.

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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2015, 06:07:22 pm »
Does it die  when your turning the wheels while sitting still ?
Or while turning a corner when driving ?

If it's sitting still it might just need the idle speed bumped up a little


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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2015, 06:30:46 pm »
It dies while making the corner while driving.

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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2015, 06:49:28 pm »
Replace fuel filter first. Then go to the pump and take off the rubber supply line. Fire up the air compressor and blow air back to the tank. Drop the tank and check out the sending unit and tank. Replace if necessary. Probably the strainer in the sending unit is loaded with crap or rust. As the owner makes a turn the stuff slides up and plugs the strainer. That would be my guess.

This is assuming the idle just doesn't need adjusting up.

I would leave the power steering alone.   
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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2015, 07:59:05 pm »
Float height adjustment?

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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2015, 08:19:53 pm »
Not that there is anything wrong with Don5's ideas. If the filter in the tank is clogging around corners, it's going to a very brief clog, as soon as you straighten out, the fuel will slosh back. It would need to be sucking up debris constantly to clock up. A brief corner turn is not long enough for the screen to clog and then drop fuel pressure enough to kill the engine. Being as you said it dies only when turning a corner and not any other time, I dought a clogged pick up screen is your issue. The tank to carb distance is to far to cause instant pressure drop and stalling.

What carburator do you have? Stock Quadrajet? I heard from another veteran site member that it is common, in carburetors, for fuel to slosh or debris to fall into the jets (I think) during cornering, causing an instant drop in fuel supply, stalling the engine. Debris usually getting in the carb from clogging, torn, dirty or worn fuel filters and/or torn or missing or deteriorated screens on the pick up tube.

It would be better to check the fuel filter and monitor fuel pressure during the stalling event to ensure proper pressure up to the carb. This will help isolate where the problem is, i.e. in tank, before the pump, after the pump, or in the carb.
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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2015, 10:20:15 pm »
I will now go back in the corner and quietly watch from now on...
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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2015, 11:06:58 pm »
I will now go back in the corner and quietly watch from now on...

Get out of the corner.
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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2015, 11:15:46 pm »
Thank you everyone.  I start digging into the truck tomorrow.  I assume its the stock carb. I will try all of your suggestions and leave the power steering pump alone, for now.   :)

Thank you again.  Ill let you know how it goes

~Mellisa~

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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2015, 11:40:48 pm »
Very well may be a float issue or carb needs rebuilt. Assuming nothing was done  to the truck to bring this on.
Fuel filter first as mentioned,  tune up. readjust mixture and idle speed. 

Does he smell gas when this happens?
Does it restart easy?


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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2015, 01:03:16 am »
The truck has been sitting for a few months.  It does smell of gas and will not easily start after it dies.  It takes many tries before it fires up.

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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2015, 01:24:55 am »
Don5, your thoughts are fine, your ok there, just too far down the line without doing some tests and locating the issue.

Mk, how long is a fuel months? 3 months is not a huge deal, six months perks some attention, 9 months, close to a year? That's when you begin to question the quality of the fuel as well.

Please let us know about the model of carb, how long it sat, old gas or new gas in tank? When it finally fires back up after stalling,  does it just fire up and run easily or does it stumble, hesitate and require putting your foot on the gas or something to get it to finally start and sputter to life and run? When the truck is running and driving, how well does it run and drive? Good sometimes, bad others, has issues when cold, has issues when hot, hesitations or bogging while driving, accelerate and cruise smoothly? These are all important to help narrow down and properly repair the issue.
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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2015, 01:28:25 am »
LTZ- Fuel in the primary tank is new, couple weeks old.  Fuel in the aux tank is old, old.  I havent had a chance to drive it but I will tomorrow if it fires up.  I will post answers to your questions then.  Thank You

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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2015, 01:38:19 am »
Ok cool. Also, if it runs for you, see if it stalls on just 1 tank or the other or both. 1 more question to the list haha.
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Re: 1976 truck dying while turning
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2015, 08:07:49 am »
Don5, your thoughts are fine, your ok there, just too far down the line without doing some tests and locating the issue.

Mk, how long is a fuel months? 3 months is not a huge deal, six months perks some attention, 9 months, close to a year? That's when you begin to question the quality of the fuel as well.

Please let us know about the model of carb, how long it sat, old gas or new gas in tank? When it finally fires back up after stalling,  does it just fire up and run easily or does it stumble, hesitate and require putting your foot on the gas or something to get it to finally start and sputter to life and run? When the truck is running and driving, how well does it run and drive? Good sometimes, bad others, has issues when cold, has issues when hot, hesitations or bogging while driving, accelerate and cruise smoothly? These are all important to help narrow down and properly repair the issue.

If the truck has difficulty starting after its been ran its time for a carb rebuild. This is generally happening due to heat soak causing fuel to evap to fast  or the fuel wells leaking and draining the float bowl.

Honestly with how simple it is to rebuild a qudrajet (Except getting the choke to work properly again) there is no reason why any old quadrajet should NOT be rebuilt.