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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #135 on: April 06, 2021, 03:51:40 PM »
This is where I'm at right now with the mechanic...

I went in and told him found he's marking up his parts incredibly, should never have machined my drums, put in Centric instead of Cardone, installed parts incorrectly and I have zero confidence in any of the work he's done as I haven't been able to drive it since he 'fixed' it in December.

I told him I want a full refund because of this. Which would be $825 on top of the $775 he refunded so far as I paid $1600 in December.
He basically told me, he'll see me in court. Lost the battle, but I did file a complaint with the BBB.
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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #136 on: April 06, 2021, 06:50:39 PM »
Alright... I've put together a shopping list over at Summit. Can I please confirm this here, because there seems to be a bit of confusion over it - I was on the phone with one of their guys who was very nice, but he had to triple check some things to make sure they'd fit because their system wasn't cooperating.

1. Raybestos 248PG - Raybestos Element3 Brake Shoes
2. Raybestos H7018 - Raybestos R-Line Brake Hardware Kits (Hardware Kit)
3. Raybestos H2508 - Raybestos R-Line Brake Hardware Kits (Left E brake)
4. Raybestos H2509 - Raybestos Disc Brake Kit Components (Right E brake)
5. Dorman W49680 - Dorman Brake Wheel Cylinders (Left)
6. Dorman W49681 - Dorman Brake Wheel Cylinders (Right)
7. Auto Extra AX8847 - AutoExtra Brake Drums (Only ones in stock that he says will fit.)
8. Yukon Gear & Axle YSPSP-007 - Yukon Gear & Axle Spindle Nut Retainers

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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #137 on: April 06, 2021, 11:17:21 PM »
Just to follow up on this guy:
7. Auto Extra AX8847 - AutoExtra Brake Drums (Only ones in stock that he says will fit.)

Summit was telling me they use the same photo for several different drums and that the part number described above would in fact fit my truck. Thoughts? Risky?
Perhaps I should just order drums from elsewhere and bring em to a different shop to press everything together?

Also purchased the 80w90 gl5, dot3, lithium grease and brake cleaner today.
Looking to purchase from Summit by morning.

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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #138 on: April 06, 2021, 11:37:28 PM »
Ask them to email you a photo of the brake drums you will actually receive or you can take your business elsewhere. Also this forum has a store where you can check out parts and if not shown in the store, send an email asking if they can get the parts you want. The prices are competitive.

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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #139 on: April 07, 2021, 10:45:33 PM »
Alright. I've got all my parts and they should be here Friday.

Brake lines - 12mm flare wrench?

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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #140 on: April 08, 2021, 12:53:28 AM »
On a 1973 GM truck brake lines and fittings are fractional; IIRC, 3/8" flare for the line nut.  Measure across opposed flats to verify.
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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #141 on: April 08, 2021, 04:18:00 AM »
This is where I'm at right now with the mechanic...

I went in and told him found he's marking up his parts incredibly, should never have machined my drums, put in Centric instead of Cardone, installed parts incorrectly and I have zero confidence in any of the work he's done as I haven't been able to drive it since he 'fixed' it in December.

I told him I want a full refund because of this. Which would be $825 on top of the $775 he refunded so far as I paid $1600 in December.
He basically told me, he'll see me in court. Lost the battle, but I did file a complaint with the BBB.

You should expect to pay full list or 1.5 x cost on parts when your vehicle is in the shop. It's a necessary part of operating the business in order to cover operating expenses. You can buy a hamburger patty cheaper at the grocery store too but you wouldn't make it an argument at a restaurant. At this point, just move on from these guys.

Why are you replacing the wheel cylinders? Were they bad?
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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #142 on: April 08, 2021, 08:13:59 AM »
Thanks guys.
Im replacing everything but the drums just to have it all go in new at once.

If I have a problem from here its either my installation (which Ill confirm with pictures here,) the drums or something else.


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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #143 on: April 08, 2021, 01:15:29 PM »
Hey Guys.

My parts arrived today, so I'll be assembling the new brakes.

Question for the gear oil though as I've never changed the oil in the differential.
1. Loosen bolts.
2. Catch oil.
3. Clean gasket.
4. Apply new gasket.
5. Reattached diff cover - 10ft/lbs per bolt and allow 1 hour to cure.
6. Remove filler plug.
7. Pour gear oil until it begins to spill out to know it's full.
8. Apply thread sealant to bolt before replacing.

For the gasket and thread sealant. May I use these two products I already have?

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Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #144 on: April 08, 2021, 05:46:57 PM »
I'm seeing mixed reviews online about applying a small dab of lube (white lithium grease) on the threads and inside the star adjuster - as seen in the pictures attached.

True or false?

Edit*** the new adjuster actually came with a bit of silicon lubricant. Pic attached
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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #145 on: April 08, 2021, 06:37:43 PM »
New question...
Springs in the kit. Two are larger than the others. How to know which are which?

All of my current springs are the shorter size, except 1, which is the leading side spring on drivers side.

What would you do? Keep em all short?
In sum, between old and new, I have 3 long and 5 short.


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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #146 on: April 08, 2021, 07:04:47 PM »
Match what you had is what I would do.
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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #147 on: April 08, 2021, 07:52:53 PM »
Regarding the springs, see the image below.  The shorter spring compensates for the added thickness of the adjuster lever.

The star wheel threads and pintle need to be lubricated.  Since silicone lubricant was supplied by the manufacturer, use that.  You should use the lithium grease on the backing plate lands.
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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #148 on: April 08, 2021, 07:54:38 PM »
Hey Guys.

My parts arrived today, so I'll be assembling the new brakes.

Question for the gear oil though as I've never changed the oil in the differential.
1. Loosen bolts.
2. Catch oil.
3. Clean gasket.
4. Apply new gasket.
5. Reattached diff cover - 10ft/lbs per bolt and allow 1 hour to cure.
6. Remove filler plug.
7. Pour gear oil until it begins to spill out to know it's full.
8. Apply thread sealant to bolt before replacing.

For the gasket and thread sealant. May I use these two products I already have?


This ^^^^ should work out well for you.
Rich
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In other words... if people learn by making mistakes, by now I should know just about everything!!!
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Re: Squeaky Drum Brakes & A Terrible Mechanic.
« Reply #149 on: April 08, 2021, 08:18:40 PM »
Regarding the springs, see the image below.  The shorter spring compensates for the added thickness of the adjuster lever.

The star wheel threads and pintle need to be lubricated.  Since silicone lubricant was supplied by the manufacturer, use that.  You should use the lithium grease on the backing plate lands.
Brilliant... It compensates for the added thickness. Thanks BD!


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