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Title: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 2502 on November 27, 2008, 02:37:24 pm
even with my other one only half done with the swap, i found this. my neighbor, yes, another neighbor, has this taking up space and wants it gone.. she only wants 200 for it. i didn't get a good chance til today but would rather get some opinions on body experts. initially i saw the rockers are rotted away but i snapped some pics of under the cab to get opinions of you that are more knowledgeable. the motor's not running, kid said it overheated, locked up, but didn't find any cracks in the block. the bed's kinda rough, but not so bad some bodywork can't help. the front clip is fine, the inner fenders look to be almost new, there's no evidence of rot anywhere so they had to have been replaced at some point with aftermarkets since the cab's that bad.

i have doors. i have another cab, that doesn't look like it's even in as bad of condition as this one. i have new rockers, etc. so is this worth picking up and salvaging? i'm thinking at least rockers, cab corners, tail gate posts for replacement metal if the cab mounts are shot.

opinions please. esp on the shots from under the cab...

thanks in advance.
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Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: choptop on November 27, 2008, 04:10:05 pm
Everytime I see one of these trucks from up North I cringe. :'( It amazes me how they deteriorate) anyway, there is $200 in good parts, if not left over scrap iron alone. Go for it
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: bigkountry on November 27, 2008, 04:15:30 pm
Those Edelbrock quads are nice, wish I could find one laying around...lol
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: hotrod24 on November 27, 2008, 05:18:47 pm
So this is it i think it would make two good looking trucks with some work the cab i think get some one to the put new rockers and cab corners in and you have doors the bed i thnk can be fixed and you have all the other panels  so go for it
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 2502 on November 27, 2008, 05:58:36 pm
are those cab mounts too rotten to work with?

here's the cab off my spare parts truck

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under where the evaporator was it's rotted thru. so i took it all out to swap over to my non ac cab. but, even tho there's some rust on the other cab, it doesn't look nearly as severe as this one.

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i'm wondering if the cab on this junker's too far gone to bother fixing, if the damage on my parts truck is less severe, and more worth fixing. the parts truck is an 80, this new junker's a 77, and my current project is a 79. the 80's cab is sitting on a frame that's twisted like a twizzler so i'm thinking maybe swap the cabs over? but then here we go having that firewall welded.

what's the best route?


Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: Donut on November 27, 2008, 06:11:55 pm
Both of your cabs are in better shape than mine was when I started.  The question is, how much of a project do you want to take on?

I've still got tweaking on mine to do to make it a dependable work truck, but I've got half an eye open for an older Blazer or 1 ton duallie. (cheap of course.)
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 2502 on November 27, 2008, 06:15:32 pm
Both of your cabs are in better shape than mine was when I started.  The question is, how much of a project do you want to take on?

I've still got tweaking on mine to do to make it a dependable work truck, but I've got half an eye open for an older Blazer or 1 ton duallie. (cheap of course.)
i want to go the easier route. but, at the same time, i want it to hold up, so no cheap fix that'll only hold for a few years... ya know? i'm worried that the 77's cab is too screwed to fix. and that there's just gonna be more and more rust that i didn't even see yet. only thing is NOW i just swapped all teh ac outta the 80s cab to throw into convert the 79 so if i end up using the 80 cab i'm gonna be kicking myself.
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: Donut on November 27, 2008, 06:38:27 pm
That's why I mentioned, "How much of a project do you want to take on?"  Chris sells dang near everything from the seat forward to rebuild the floor, including the cab and floor supports.  When I decided to fix mine, a lot of the decision was looking at 1990 and newer trucks that needed the same repairs.

If it were me, I would be seriously tempted.
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 2502 on November 27, 2008, 07:22:47 pm
That's why I mentioned, "How much of a project do you want to take on?"  Chris sells dang near everything from the seat forward to rebuild the floor, including the cab and floor supports.  When I decided to fix mine, a lot of the decision was looking at 1990 and newer trucks that needed the same repairs.

If it were me, I would be seriously tempted.
so you think i should repair this rotted cab or swap over my other one?
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: hotrod24 on November 27, 2008, 08:48:04 pm
use the 77 or you could repair the dash and firewall on the 80 because it does have good rockers but i have not seen what the rest looks like i would tear it down and see what you come up with and then compair them.

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Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 2502 on November 27, 2008, 09:46:42 pm
i'll get under tomorrow or something sometime when there's some daylight to take more pics of the other cab i have

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Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: adamrx7 on December 06, 2008, 12:57:18 am
It's comming along , just a little rust. :P
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 79SHORTWIDE on December 08, 2008, 08:37:26 pm
You're a better man than me to tackle that much surgery. I was crying when I had to fix mine and I'm in Texas. Good luck.
Look, I can keep an eye out for a decent cab down here if you're willing to travel. If I had the room, I'd stock pile body parts for these trucks.
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: JJSZABO on December 09, 2008, 09:28:57 am
I say go for it - the price is right.

How much of a project are you looking for?

Any cab is "worth" bringing back if you are willing to put the time and cash into it.  I always like to see the old iron brought back than going to the crusher.
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: CruzinHigh on December 21, 2008, 12:20:55 pm
As long as you've got the space to store it and the time to tackle such a project, why not!?  Just as these guys are saying the price is right so go for it.  I'd love to have a place to store a stockpile of old 73-87's, there's a bunch of em to be found now at great prices.

I'd wait on scrapping it alone for the cash though.  Scrap has gone way back down again and it probably will go back up again once this global recession works itself out.   ::)
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 2502 on December 22, 2008, 01:30:05 am
i didn't really have a place to store it, so spending more than $200 for it wasn't worth it to me. cuz in the end all i could see being able to save was the valve covers... with the way things fall thru, and i just lost my job, it could very well sit and rot so i just used it for xmas presents. i got some tumor's growing in my neck i just had a biopsy on, so i'm waiting on the results from that before i even think of doing anything that's gonna cost me time and money. on top of that mess, i got fired for some crap at work that ended up being just a list of minor excuses that just make you raise your eyebrow at. and i mean the most minor excuses. i'm guessing they didn't wanna risk paying the bills to our health coverage provider if it's cancer. so io'm gonna relax and wait a bit...
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: choptop on December 22, 2008, 08:23:20 pm
Hope everything comes out ok
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: Captkaos on December 24, 2008, 11:15:42 am
Gee, that stinks.  I pray that everything clears up.
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 2502 on December 24, 2008, 07:14:32 pm
thanks i need all of the well wishign. i just need my truck together already this is ridiculous lol
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: DnStClr on December 27, 2008, 08:36:28 pm
I hope your tests turn out negative. In the meantime, can you file an appeal of your firing with the Pa labor dept? If what you say is true,it sounds like the employer drummed up some unwarranted reasons to let you go. You can file with the unemployment bureau for insurance..
http://www.helium.com/items/612375-can-you-get-unemployment-insurance-after-being-fired-in-the-us (http://www.helium.com/items/612375-can-you-get-unemployment-insurance-after-being-fired-in-the-us)
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 2502 on December 27, 2008, 10:00:58 pm
i think they saw it coming... i mean literally, there were 2-3 doc appts each week. i tested positive for cancer, now my health insurance is getting cut, which i thought would be 90 days, but turns out just to the end of the month. i'm going to start making some phone calls to see if there's something i can do legally, and try to get the cobra insurance in the meantime til i find something. it's not like i can really go right back to work, there's going to be surgery and radiation scheduled after, so i'm going to basically end up missing work right away. i filed for unemployment, but they denied it saying i didn't make enuff? it got confusing but i think i can refile after the new year. the cancer i have is almost totally curable, but it's been growing for a long time so i don't know how bad it's spread yet.. which i'll find out after this test i take next week. it was really out of nowhere, i mean christ, one of the reasons was because i forgot to send the nightly email to accounting, and another for wearing a hat that was seen in corporate holiday pictures. it's an art supply store, it's not a bank or anything of such strict guidlines, and wearing the hat was ok up until now. the day i got fired, i had two appts that morning, and i got reprimanded then by our district manager for taking so long. then it was oh, you were late so many times and didn't open the store on time, and all that was was me actually opening the store before i clocked in. and this they knew. it was just lame. nothing was brought to my attention, there were no warnings other than, dno't have my cell phone on me while on the floor. which the call i had to take, was from a DOCTOR, and my supervisor was ALSO aware of this. it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: oldwhity on March 12, 2009, 06:57:30 pm
I know this is old and that I never posted anything in this thread, but was curious if everything is ok. I remember reading this thread back in Dec. and it pops in my head every couple of weeks or so. Hope all is well.

Rob
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 2502 on March 13, 2009, 10:24:00 pm
i ended up being diagnosed with cancer. it's just thryoid cancer which is supposed to be totally curable but it's been spreading for a long time so 6 golf ball sized tumors were removed. it was a long january, in and out of the hospital a few times trying to correct the crap my body kept doing to me. it apparently didn't like being cut open regardless of the fact it was for my benefit. i'm at home finally healing now but it's long, and things with my body aren't quite right yet. i look like frankenstein my throat was cut ear to ear to get this stuff out. it's still a long road i got more tests to go before i take the radiation treatment to kill the rest of whatever is left over.. but thanks anyway...
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: choptop on March 13, 2009, 10:25:34 pm
Our prayers are with you. Hang in there, your truck is patiently awaiting your return. ;D
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: Lt.Del on March 13, 2009, 10:41:20 pm
Yeah, what choptop said.  I hope all is going as well as can be.  Dont let that crap conquer you and come out fight'n like heck.

You'll get back to turning wrenches in no time.  As for looking like Frankenstein, I am sure you don't have any bolts coming from your neck, so, look at those marks as  survival marks and nothing else.

Keep your head clear and positive and you'll have no problem. I'm thinking 'bout you. 

Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 2502 on March 13, 2009, 11:53:24 pm
thanks all...

as far as the frankenstein, i'm just missing the bolts actually. some fibrosis has set in, so it's stiff and hard to move and a little deformed looking but they say that should be clear in a few months.

my health insurance was the issue, as soon as i told my boss, i was fired two days later. i elected the cobra coverage, but they switched  coverage providers, who now tell me my docs and hospitals etc are outta network, even though they're supposed to pay my outta network coverage, and refuse to pay my accumulating 60k plus worth of bills thus far. and i haven't even started the radiation, and i need more tests done yet.
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: oldwhity on March 15, 2009, 03:38:50 pm
Hey 2502, sorry, just got back from Richmond Va. Glad to hear that your making headway. I'm sure there's still a bumpy road ahead. Just stay strong and our thoughts are with you.

P.S. I heard the gvmt is supposed to cover something like 65% of Cobra costs. Might be worth checking out.
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: Captkaos on March 16, 2009, 02:54:59 pm
It has been said already but Hang in there!
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 2502 on March 17, 2009, 02:55:12 pm
Hey 2502, sorry, just got back from Richmond Va. Glad to hear that your making headway. I'm sure there's still a bumpy road ahead. Just stay strong and our thoughts are with you.

P.S. I heard the gvmt is supposed to cover something like 65% of Cobra costs. Might be worth checking out.
that would have been GREAT if i hadn't been notifed of that AFTER i had to cancel it. i just couldn't afford it. i'm making peanuts on my unemployment so it's either pay that and starve, or try to be able to at least afford the meds i'm on. so i went with the lesser and decided not to starve lol..

thanks everyone i appreicate it
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: oldwhity on March 17, 2009, 07:40:45 pm
I totally understand. I got laid off this year in January for the second time from the same company ::) . I just started back today with that same company but as a subcontractor. This was pretty much a last resort to go back. Trust me, the employment ads are about a quarter of what they were last year in January.

I know it's hard without insurance especially when you yourself needs it. We only cover the kids through the state for free. If your getting billed for medication, I believe you can get away with paying less than the minimum(like $1) as long as your making payments. We do that when we're in a pinch and they don't penalize you or charge you fees. Just something to think about if your recieving bills for medication.

Do you have any leads on jobs yet? I know it's sparce. Do you know a trade? Even though the building industry is almost moving backwards, some people are still hiring. I started installing shoe mould and quarter round (trim) in new homes for the company that laid me off. Its real simple and I work for myself. I'm doing this until I get another offer from resumes that I submitted. I'm supposed to take a test for DNR as a Police Officer at the end of April and hopefully they'll make me an offer. The benefits are great and they'll train. Check your county or state for jobs if your interested. You never know whats out there. Good luck with your search.
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 2502 on March 18, 2009, 10:34:51 pm
i'm set with another job, i do sportbikes. right now it's at a honda bmw dealer, but come end of the day i'm so sore and tired, it makes getting outta bed really hard the next day. it's not easy in the least, i had to miss a day i was just so beat up the other day i couldn't get outta bed. i rested most of the day, went to bed early, was still exhausted next day. it's not even tiring work in the least.. it's parts and accessories, etc easy lightweight stuff...
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: oldwhity on March 19, 2009, 07:50:21 pm
I hear ya. Being off for almost 2 months and going back to physical work isn't fun. Even though the work isn't that hard I can definitely feel it at night and in the morning. Hopefully it won't take too long to get back in the grove.

I glad you found a job. They sure are hard to come by nowadays.
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: JRConnieK10 on March 19, 2009, 08:22:31 pm
Glad to hear your back to work just take it one day at a time hopefully your employer understands what your going through. My dad recently had to go through some surgery stuff after an accident. He slipped on the ice at a truckstop and broke his hip with no insurance coverage and 9 days in the hospital my wife has worked with each one of his bills and alot of them have reduced thier bills by huge percentages to help him. And my mother inlaw had breast cancer a couple years ago with no ins. and there were alot of programs that helped her. If I can ask her some leads to help I will see what I can find out for ya if you want.
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: 2502 on March 19, 2009, 11:12:40 pm
thanks... i appreciate it...
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: Lt.Del on March 20, 2009, 09:08:46 pm
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He slipped on the ice at a truckstop and broke his hip with no insurance coverage and 9 days in the hospital my wife has worked with each one of his bills and alot of them have reduced thier bills by huge percentages to help him

JR, if your dad slipped at a truckstop, why not persue legal matters from the truckstop?  They have liability insurance or they wouldn't be in business.  The state corporation comission in every state requires certain things to operate a business, and one of those things is liability insurance.  If the walkway or road, or whatever he slipped on was considered negligence, their insurance will have to pay the bills and some punitive and pain and suffering.  They are responsible for clearing ice away.

Small print: I am not an attorney, I just sit in a lot of court cases due to the nature of my job.
Title: Re: maybe, just maybe
Post by: JRConnieK10 on March 21, 2009, 11:49:45 am
SgtDel- It is something we looked at but most state have changed the laws on slip and fall accidents. I have a good friend thats an attorney he said we could try but proably not have much luck. The good thing we just found out was because my dad turns 66 in April he was able to get Medicare since August. So that helps alot. Thanks Though. Good looking out for us.