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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Members Rides => Topic started by: Just-speed on March 30, 2009, 09:05:31 am
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Hey guys,
I want to show my 84 K10. I bought this truck about a year ago at a great price. I bought the truck 100% stock. I mean 100%. Nothing was ever changed. Even had Factory Radio. Factory engine, Tranny I mean everything. Factory A/C still worked the whole nine yards. Only had two owners. I got a great truck at a great price. This truck is the OFF Road Edtion and came with everything from cruise control to power locks and air ride. I have been working on it with what time I have and have made some changes. I had an 87 Ext Cab S10 that I was working on for a few years that I had just had to scrap because I blew the floor out of it. Long story but let just say I was lucky to walk away with-out being hurt. I pulled the stock 305 out of the truck and replaced with the 350 I had built in my S10. Then had my tranny guy build me a new 700r4. I then replaced rhe stock 3.08 gears with 4.56's. Then My wife was good enough to buy me new rubber and rims. Nice stuff. I then upgraded the Rad and such and upgraded the A/C. I ripped both gas tanks out and went with an in-bed tank. I also raised the truck using srings fromt he S10. Yeah really I did. I raised the truck using only parts from the S10. I just took the biggest and longest springs and added it them to this truck and it raised it 6 inches front and rear. I have replaced all the rubber around all the windows. I have done allot and have a long ways to go. I am ready to start body work. I will post more when I get a chance. I will post a question asking for help in another section in a min. I am having a real probelm with brakes. Need help figureing why It is pulling to one side so bad after replacing everything.
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Nice truck. I'd like to see more pics. ;D
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Nice truck. As far as pulling to one side, did you change the steering arm when you lifted it? If not you are going to need to replace it with a raised arm to accommodate the lift.
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Yeah bump-steer is on heck of a ride when ur not expecting it !!! :o
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Trying to add more pics but it wont let me.
You already submitted this post! You might have accidently double clicked, or tried to refresh.
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Here are some more pictures. Keep in mind these are all of the truck when I first bought it.
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Nice truck. As far as pulling to one side, did you change the steering arm when you lifted it? If not you are going to need to replace it with a raised arm to accommodate the lift.
Will that cause it it pull when applying the brakes? I did not change it and no idea I should. The front end is driving me crazy. When I got the truck the front end was perfect. No pull no shake nothing. I raised it and all heck broke lose. I used no blocks only springs. I added one spring to each side to lift it 6 inches. Then the pulling started. I replaced the Brake lines because of course after lifting it they were to short. I replaced the rotors, calipers and pads aswell. All dont at the same time same day. The pulling wont go away. I then replaced all four shocks up front and replaced both tie rods and the adjusting arm. Still wont stop. Whats worse is if I load the bed with weight you can hardly drive it without crapping your pants it pulls so bad. I did a little test a few mins ago and took it out for a ride. As soon as I pulled in the driveway i checked the temp of the pads and rotor. Big difference. Driver side was about 100degrees hotter than passenger. And it pulls to the driver side. So I am thinking the pads are sticking? Thoughts? Never thought the steering arm should be replaced.
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Defiantly change the steering arm, My bet is that fixes the whole thing. Be prepared they are a bear to change we have had a few topics on this just search and you'll find some tricks to help ya.
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My 84 silverado had the same problem it pulled like crazy to the right. Figured out it was my caliper and pads sticking replaced both and no more pulling drives strait as an arow
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Defiantly change the steering arm, My bet is that fixes the whole thing. Be prepared they are a bear to change we have had a few topics on this just search and you'll find some tricks to help ya.
Ok thanks for the help. I just priced it at $92. I guess I will get it. I hope it fixes things. I can handle changing it no problem. I want to clean the truck up a bit before taking some pics of it since I made those changes. But I just thougt of a few things I could add. I did replace the colum shift with a floor shift. I pulled the bench seat out and replaced with bucket seats but my wife hated it so a had to change it back. Added a hitch to the front. Mounted an air tank and compresser under bed where one of the tanks were. I think i might just take pics of it dirty and post. Be back in a bit.
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My 84 silverado had the same problem it pulled like crazy to the right. Figured out it was my caliper and pads sticking replaced both and no more pulling drives strait as an arow
Really? dang
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My 84 silverado had the same problem it pulled like crazy to the right. Figured out it was my caliper and pads sticking replaced both and no more pulling drives strait as an arow
Did it only pull when applying the brakes? Mine takes control of the truck. Funny thing is it wont do it everytime. Seems to do it more when i am moving a bit quicker. It pulls so hard and seems like the steering wheel dont move. This is the first 4x4 I ever owned. Do you guys have a problem turning corners? I need a mile to turn a corner. Drive thru at Buger King? Not happeing. I cant make the turns.
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The not turning thing is the steering arm. Do you notice if you go over a bump or crest of a hill that it pulls harder? You can double check the brakes but change the steering arm first trust me you'll see the difference. Make sure you get one for a lifted truck not stock. http://www.ntwonline.com/GM_STEERING_ARM_P13394C324.cfm
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The not turning thing is the steering arm. Do you notice if you go over a bump or crest of a hill that it pulls harder? You can double check the brakes but change the steering arm first trust me you'll see the difference. Make sure you get one for a lifted truck not stock. http://www.ntwonline.com/GM_STEERING_ARM_P13394C324.cfm
You know bro the funny thing is bumps are not an issue. It rides so smooth. Bumps are nothing and if you let go of the wheel it drives striaght. Only pulls when applying the brakes. Never any issue on bumps. I am trying to find the right steering arm right now. I see things like must be open knuckle axle and things like that. Trying to figure out which one i need.
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The not turning thing is the steering arm. Do you notice if you go over a bump or crest of a hill that it pulls harder? You can double check the brakes but change the steering arm first trust me you'll see the difference. Make sure you get one for a lifted truck not stock. http://www.ntwonline.com/GM_STEERING_ARM_P13394C324.cfm
Same arm you got? Considering we have the same truck I will order this one.
Thanks. Also had no idea the arm might be stopping the turning radius.
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http://www.ntwonline.com/69-87_GM_STEERING_ARM_P13345C324.cfm This is the one you want.
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http://www.ntwonline.com/69-87_GM_STEERING_ARM_P13345C324.cfm This is the one you want.
ok just ordered it. Thanks
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Ok Pics of the truck as it is today
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Good looking truck. It'll be fine once you get her fixed.
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Once you get the arm on or even before, I'd double check the calipers. Pull them back off and make sure one side isn't siezed(the side that it pulls to). I'd also rebleed them. Air in the line could prevent a caliper from working properly. Hope you get the bugs worked out.
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Once you get the arm on or even before, I'd double check the calipers. Pull them back off and make sure one side isn't siezed(the side that it pulls to). I'd also rebleed them. Air in the line could prevent a caliper from working properly. Hope you get the bugs worked out.
Thanks for the advice. I spent 3 hours Sunday bleeding them to make sure there was no air. None. I think the driver side is squeezing to hard or something. I took it out this afternoon and slamed the brakes on a dirt road. That driver side tire locked up quick and hard. You know what is messed up is all the parts you buy now days are shoot and when you buy stuff and it dont work before you even break it in if just messed up.
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http://www.ntwonline.com/69-87_GM_STEERING_ARM_P13345C324.cfm This is the one you want.
Man those folks are slow. Do you buy from them often? I bought mid-day Monday and still have not shipped. Very slow.
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Man those folks are slow. Do you buy from them often? I bought mid-day Monday and still have not shipped. Very slow.
It has only been essentially 1 day. You ordered at 1:27 they probably didn't process your order until that afternoon or Tuesday morning at the earliest.
Then they had to pull them from inventory and "package them (along with all the other orders) THEN they would have to have the shipping company pick them up. If they are like any other company they do pickup at certain times, if your stuff isn't ready, they won't sit there and wait for it. I have a suppler that ONLY builds my products on Friday period and they have shipping pickup on Wednesday. that means if I ordered something from them on the 30th it wouldn't get built until the 3rd and wouldn't be shipped until the 8th.
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Well Bro could be true. I keep checking still have not shipped. I will call them today. They say on the Q's page that all orders are shipped with-in 24 hours. I am a little over that. I was really wanting part before week-end to get this fixed.
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JR Thanks for pointing me in the right direction with the steering arm. It did come yesterday and I had just called them. They said there site is very slow to update. It showed no change from when I ordered but in fact they did ship Tuesday. So Anyways it came late yesterday. I just took the old arm off. Really not a big deal. I read all the posts on it. Here is what I did. Took about 20 mins to get done. I took nuts off arm. Blasted with jb blaster. Then burned blaster hit arm 3 times and tapped a small flathead in the crack of each washer and twisted them out. Went easy. Now I will head out and put new arm on and look forward to big change.
Thanks for the help
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ok all done fella's and I thank you all for your help. Really took no-time and I adjusted the drag link and this baby turns sharp now. I am going to head out for a test drive in a sec and find out if the pulling stops which I hope it does. So far it has worked out great. I just feel so stupid for not noticing that the wheels were not turning all the way. They turn about twice what they did now. Ok heading for test drive. Will update.
Thanks guys.
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ok not so good. Started out fantastic. Made my first turn and it was awesome. Rode down the street felt great. Pulling when you hit brakes stopped. Turned around about 2 miles away and headed home. Tunred down my street and it would not turn sharp. pulled in driveway and checked it out. All of a sudden it only turns as far as it did before. Nothing is loose or changed. I have to think on this one. Not sure what happened. Maybe my steering box. Any idea' s hit me.
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This is what I got. I turned the wheel all the way to the right. Then took the drag link off at the Steering arm. Then I pulled the drag link which would move the full motion. So what is happining I guess is the steering box is saying when to stop or the power steering pump? Which do you guys think.
I can turn the tires by hand all the way. I can pull drag link while still hooked up to the box all the way. When you put weight on the tires for some reason the box or something says that is far enough and gives up.
What could it be?
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Possibly the box or adjustment. Does all the way to the left? If so, pull the drag link off and see if it goes past the arm on the left side. This would indicate that it needs to be centered. I ran into something similar and if I remember right, it was when I pulled the arm off the steering box and didnt get it back on right. It was a long time ago, so I dont remember for sure.
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Possibly the box or adjustment. Does all the way to the left? If so, pull the drag link off and see if it goes past the arm on the left side. This would indicate that it needs to be centered. I ran into something similar and if I remember right, it was when I pulled the arm off the steering box and didnt get it back on right. It was a long time ago, so I dont remember for sure.
your advise makes sense and I took it. I had already checked with the drag link off and the wheels to the right. And as I had said I could pull the drag link the rest of the way. Then I checked with the wheels to the left and the drag link to steering arm came up short so you were right on the money. I centered things up and thought I would be good to go. So with the wheels off the ground I tested. Worked great. Then I put the truck back on the ground and no go. Tires only turn about half way. I really dont get it. Am I missing something? What stops the steering wheel from tuning when it thinks its at the end? Would that be the Steering box? I did a search on how to find if your box is bad and all I could find was to look for play in the steering box. My box is tight and has no play. Any idea's on what I am missing? I am by no means an expert it this. Drivetrian is strength.
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I been messing with this all day and trying to find as much info as I can. If I have the front of the truck off the ground the tires will turn all the way with the truck running useing power steering. But once you put it on the ground it will only turn about half as far.
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Thanks guys. I got it fixed and figured out. Front axle was moving on drivers side. Had to tighten it up and I adjusted the gear box and seems to work fine now. Would have found it sooner but I am a one man show. I ended up starting the truck and turning the steering from under the truck with my hand reaching up to the shaft. Happy it is figured out now. Thanks