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General Site Info => General Discussion => Topic started by: Irish_Alley on May 01, 2011, 09:54:03 pm
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Well the deed is done. Well done boys
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Best news I've heard in a good while. Killed by a US bomb, in Pakistan it sounds like.
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I know this is unchristian like, but I hope he suffered!
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old news! Osama bin dead for a week!
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It wasn't a bomb. SF worked him and have his body.
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Proverbs says the death of the wicked is celebrated!
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So does the SF guy that ended him get the bounty from the FBI? Cause that'd be awesome!
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unfortunately, US troops dont have that right.
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too bad. They deserve somethin, even though its technically their job.
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About time for this. Hope he enjoys rotting in heck now. Thanks to everyone that has ever served in the U.S. military.
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"America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done." George W. Bush.
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too bad. They deserve somethin, even though its technically their job.
Those guys don't even get acknowledged that they exist. They get satisfaction in doing their job.
Awesome, I just got to listen to obama take credit for it. Who would have guessed
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You hear him say "one nation, under God?"
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I heard him read it off the teleprompter, lol
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haha ya.
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"I have never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure." - Mark Twain
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Good.
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Hes been dead for years if you ask me. Its just part of the re-election campaign.
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the U.S. received most of their information to his whereabouts from interrogating scum at Gitmo. Refresh my memory, who wanted Gitmo shut down and all its inhabitants to have 'civillian court cases'? Who is taking credit now? Who wants to cut military budgets to less than that of a white house tour greeter? hmmmm. WOW.
Sweet revenge is, well, sweet. Our military, no thanks to many politicians, are second to none. We need to stay that way.
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I don't relish in anyone's death, but he did get what he deserved.
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I want to see a pic, for proof, of course.
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He's whale poo by now.
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I could definitely killed him myself with my bare hands and without regret. Some people don't deserve to live and he lived WAY too long. There's more of them and they need to go too. As far as he goes though, I want to see pix of his dead carcass.
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Being in the military, and it doesnt matter how professional they are, one of those SEALs HAD to have taken a pic before they turned the body over.
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Do you think they would ever circulate that pic though, for fear of getting in trouble.
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if there is a picture, it will eventually come out. just because it would be a military trial, prosecution still has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. i dunno if picture files can be encrypted to log a camera's serial number or not.
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wiki will probably find it
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Couple of nights ago Letterman said something like "Well they found Pres. Obama's birth certificate. I guess next they'll find Osama Bin Laden."
They found him for sure. Bless the Navy seals.
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2 shots in the dark ! pay backs a b!OTC!!
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i want to take my next cruise, not on a carnival cruise line, but on the USS Cole....because it still floats, and Osama sinks.
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Did anyone here saw the movie zeitgeist?
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From what I understand, it is against Islamic law for a non Muslim to touch a Muslim body. 1. US SEALs took him away in the helo. 2. The US Navy cleaned the body, wrapped him up in white sheets, and dumped him overboard. And now I am reading that sea burial is not in accordance with their laws. Oh well!
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it is against Islamic law for a non Muslim to touch a Muslim body.
it's against Christian law to fly planes into buildings with the purpose of killing innocent people.
And now I am reading that sea burial is not in accordance with their laws. Oh well!
and a Christian burial doesn't include being buried under the rubble of the twin towers. I hope the crabs enjoy their dinner.
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Let's be clear on this: OBAMA did NOT kill bin Laden. An American soldier, who Obama just a few weeks ago was debating on whether or not to PAY, did. Obama just happened to be the one in office when our soldiers finally found OBL and took him out. This is NOT an Obama victory, but an AMERICAN victory!!
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^someone's been on facebook...
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The fact that they didn't just dump the corpse on top of a pile of garbage in a public dump somewhere means he got way more respect than he deserved.
On the other subject. If they would cut pay to the politicians they could afford to give all the soldiers a nice pay RAISE.
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i am proud of our boys for finding him and serving justice. to even THINK of taking pay away from them is disgusting. they are priceless, they deserve more than anyone can ever give them. over 4500 have lost their lives to take 1 life.
we are going to need them more and more as time goes on. the death of one man brings the anger of all his allies. and thats what scares me.
i love the fact that osama is fish food. there is no grave for anyone to make a memorial out of. unless all the terrorists want to swim with the fishes to set it up ;D
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Yup
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Got to bring some more smiles. This post needs more smiles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW1toLy_FMQ&sns=em
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A caller on a radio show in Houston said it well. "Giving Obama credit for killing Osama is like thanking Ronald McDonald for making you a cheeseburger. It's the folks behind the scenes that actually do the work and make it happen, not the clown in the picture!"
Nuff Said
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what Osama was thinking when he heard knocks on his door....I know he knew the answer though...
http://www.delbridge.net/whocanitbenow.mp3 (http://www.delbridge.net/whocanitbenow.mp3)
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lol, wasn't expecting that Andy.
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it is against Islamic law for a non Muslim to touch a Muslim body.
it's against Christian law to fly planes into buildings with the purpose of killing innocent people.
And now I am reading that sea burial is not in accordance with their laws. Oh well!
and a Christian burial doesn't include being buried under the rubble of the twin towers. I hope the crabs enjoy their dinner.
They are not supposed to touch pork either. I hope they stuffed him full of sausage and wrapped him in porkchops and bacon before went to Davy Jones Locker...
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I don't buy it. He ain't fish food.
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To many holes and impossibilities in the story......
I don't buy it either.
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What a coincidence that Trump's show was interrupted by the "announcement" that didn't happen till an hour later! You know, we have wasted way too much time talking about this effer. So let's get back to trucks. That's what really important. LOL
Fidd
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Buy it or not, you're not taking victory from the men that carried out the mission and the rest of us that served and trained to be the triggerman on that particular operation.
Well said Fidd. I'm happy to go back to talking trucks
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Ya but this is a non truck topic, in a non truck discussion folder. Anything goes in this folder.
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There's no way they would just give him an at sea burial and not take his corpse back.
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Maybe well get to dispose of him twice. sounds good to me!
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they did everything they could to avoid him being a martyr, even getting rid of the body to keep any memorial from coming into reality. A tape of the body would've been all over the news and used as a rallying cry to kill more Americans and definately used as propaganda for anti-Americans.
the right thing was done. My nephew is in the US Army and I am for anything possible to have the issue die down and fade away, though that may be a pipe dream. At least video of the body cannot be used on Al-jazera TV to fuel the flame.
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He's DEAD. If he wasn't, it would be only too easy to prove. It's kind of hard to fake. "Hey look! I'm alive! See? Here's a copy of today's newspaper!" Until and unless that happens, I'll give credit where it is due- the troops who did it, the agents who gathered the Intel and kept their mouths shut, and yes, the president. In that order.
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I kind of don't want the pics released just cause everyone in the hood will have it posted up on the wall a Guy with a head shot ain't going to be pretty for little ones to see
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With "friends" like that who needs enemies.
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oh no, we can't afford to lose Pakistan as an ally. (wait, were they an ally?) It's hard to tell since bin Laden was hiding in the shadow of their capital for six years. What have they helped us do?
Operation Geronimo was a success without Pakistan. Oh, and the grandson of Geronimo isn't happy his grandfather's name is being used associated with Osama. HaHa...does it ever end? I believe more thought should have been given to naming the operation...like Operation Crab Food
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That name offends me due to the fact of the blue crab in Maryland and its what we eat here and he's what they eat and I think they should find his body and stop polluting the sea. Lmao who cares. Thought the redskins offended native Americans who cares j/k
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I'm still waiting for hollywood to release a statement about how the operation was only possible because now they let gays in the military and we never could have got osama without them.
Obama was able to earn some street cred by following the Bush/Cheney policy on the war on terror, so maybe now he will follow the Reagan policy with our economy and get to be a hero twice in his one term presidency.
By the way, where are all the people that were saying that 9/11 was an inside job and that Bush brought down the trade centers? Shouldn't they be screaming at Obama for murdering an innocent man? Depends on how concentrated the kool-aid is I guess.
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Where's the "Death Certificate"? j/k What? You think I'm one of those "deathers"? LOL
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lol
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lol
Breaking News:
'Environmental Protection Agency sues President Obama for Ocean dumping, Al Gore weeps...'
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One thing i want to say that i can’t get out of my head is when Obama was giving his speech at the end he said one nation under God. My jaw dropped kind of makes America feel like America or maybe that was his plan
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It kinda looked like he stuttered because since he didnt write what was on the teleprompter, he wasnt expecting it.
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it's a spiracy. I saw Jimmy Hoffa last night. There was an Elvis reporting last week. When will we see Osama resurface?
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I can't believe the elvis ones are still going. ;D
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My thoughts from "over here"
He's not dead - you guys have him tucked in a dirty stinking hole and will get every last bit of info out of him and I don't care how ya do it!
One man lead the attacks on 9/11 and 7/7 and will get what he deserves in time.
Unfortunately another crackpot will take up the reins and further attacks will happen.
I understand "our guys" assisted in the info and recon so 3 cheers for doing our bit ;D
Rarely do I speak on religion or politics as they are the two main areas that start wars in the first place.
Happy torturing guys ;)
ps - I saw Elvis yesterday in the fish and chip shop!!
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Make no mistake---i am happy that he is out of the picture, permanently.
However, i have two problems with this:
1) Guilty before proven guilty. No trial. In effect, he's been excuted without a fair trial. i understand that when you go to apprehend a suspect and they resist to the point where you are in danger, you have the right to take whatever measures are nessesary to protect yourself and others in immediate harm. i understand this concept fully. Of course, in this case it appeared he was unarmed.......
2) He very, very probably is responsible for 9/11 and obviously there was sufficient evidence to warrent capture. However, a right to a fair trial is one of the cornerstones that democracy is built on.
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However, a right to a fair trial is one of the cornerstones that democracy is built on.
That would be a valid concern if he would have been a contributing member of a civilized democratic society, as opposed to a murdering bag of excrement.
I understand your point, but if we would have given fair trial to everyone at gitmo they would have all been set free because the jury wouldn't want to offend muslims and we wouldn't have gotten the intel to bring anybody to justice; swift, fair, or otherwise.
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Fair trial. Lol he admitted to being behind it he fault back, he didn’t turn himself in he would send out vids anti-American vids. he’s like most others in the system they only want laws when it can save there but besides that they make their own up in his case m16= fair trial. Saved the government lots of money they probably would have had to put him on p.c. then had a suicide watch on him that would be 2 more men to pay to watch him. Then when found guilty they probably would have had to up security and deal with other terrorist trying to get him back then they would have to kill him in a humane way. Like those of 9/11 got
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even if he got a fair trial and was convicted, look at how long it takes for someone to get the needle. most of those on death row die naturally anyways. Do you know what the cost difference is between a regular inmate and one on death row? Its at least 2-3 times as much.
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He very, very probably is responsible for 9/11 and obviously there was sufficient evidence to warrent capture. However, a right to a fair trial is one of the cornerstones that democracy is built on.
this really doesn't deserve comment, but i will.
USS Cole, Oct. 2000. Where was the trial before the execution of 17 of our troops?
1993 bombing of twin towers
1983 Beirut bombing of marine barracks--241 U.S. servicemen never got a trial before their execution.
Nick Berg: Where was his trial prior to his May 2004 beheading on video that went around the world?
Eugene Jack Armstrong: See above - What happened to Armstrong's trial? beheaded Sept. 2004
Jack Hensley: See Armstrong, same thing.
To give Bin Laden a trial would have been more of a circus than Hussein's. A platform to talk to the world. A requirement to make all of U.S. secret info public to convict. It would've made public all of our informants and put their lives in jeopardy after they were subpoenaed but before testimony Is that what we want? The Navy Seals never, ever intended to bring back Bin Laden with his heart still beating. Think about it. They shot his shield, wife, in the leg and him in the head AND chest.
Too many pansies in this world. Give these animals their own treatment, that's all they know.
Never thought I'd say this, but, Plus 1 for Obama. He surprised me.
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Eye for an eye!!!
When there is no doubt there should be no trial. If they did heinous things they deserve to suffer before they die!
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He very, very probably is responsible for 9/11 and obviously there was sufficient evidence to warrent capture. However, a right to a fair trial is one of the cornerstones that democracy is built on.
this really doesn't deserve comment, but i will.
USS Cole, Oct. 2000. Where was the trial before the execution of 17 of our troops?
1993 bombing of twin towers
1983 Beirut bombing of marine barracks--241 U.S. servicemen never got a trial before their execution.
Nick Berg: Where was his trial prior to his May 2004 beheading on video that went around the world?
Eugene Jack Armstrong: See above - What happened to Armstrong's trial? beheaded Sept. 2004
Jack Hensley: See Armstrong, same thing.
To give Bin Laden a trial would have been more of a circus than Hussein's. A platform to talk to the world. A requirement to make all of U.S. secret info public to convict. It would've made public all of our informants and put their lives in jeopardy after they were subponaed but before testimony Is that what we want? The Navy Seals never, ever intended to bring back Bin Laden with his heart still beating. Think about it. They shot his shield, wife, in the leg and him in the head AND chest.
Too many pansies in this world. Give these animals their own treatment, that's all they know.
Never thought I'd say this, but, Plus 1 for Obama. He surprised me.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/06/latest-updates-how-the-raid-against-osama-bin-laden-went-down/?iref=allsearch
I believe they took back the lie about using his wife as a human shield.
Some wrongs don't make rights, unfortunately.
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Some wrongs don't make rights, unfortunately.
For somone killing thousands of innocent people on behalf of some demented religion, then giving that criminal a world platform for speeches during a trial--to coax more followers, and the need to reveal our top national secrets during trial--all would have been wrong. Common sense must prevail sometimes. It did.
– Bin Laden himself never held a gun or used a woman as a shield, as U.S. officials once reported, but authorities thought he was enough of a threat to warrant shooting him.
– U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday that bin Laden made no attempt to surrender.
makes my point completely....he wasn't coming out alive, no matter what. Who's to say he didn't have explosives on his person which could've been detonated and knocked out a dozen Seals? They weren't taking any chances.
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Some wrongs don't make rights, unfortunately.
For somone killing thousands of innocent people on behalf of some demented religion, then giving that criminal a world platform for speeches during a trial--to coax more followers, and the need to reveal our top national secrets during trial--all would have been wrong. Common sense must prevail sometimes. It did.
You have no idea what I was referring to. But you feel the need to keep justifying? I think you've stated your case, but if you wish to continue, I guess do so. I'll be working on my truck, thank you.
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After 20 yrs in law enforcement, it just gets my goat all the people who claim to know what's best and second guess what we do while they sit on their couch nice and comfy. When one's life is at stake, or a fellow officer's or soldier's life, and precious seconds make the difference between success or failure and survival or death, knowing the subject matter has no value for life, all factors must be considered. I'm tired of watching the news and people saying the officer shouldn't have shot, there was no gun, though the person was reaching for something and we would have to be killed before we can fire back. Then the jurisdiction pays millions to the family once media gets the story because its the PC thing to do and gov't has no backbone to tell the people the real time of day. Finally the gov't did something right and there are many who second guess it. The people second guessing the actions conducted have never been in a situation where they didn't know they were going to live or die, and odds decrease substantially with each tick of the clock. Decisions must be made on the spot, right or wrong, not with computers, but with human brains who react and consider all info in a split second. That's all I'm saying. Media and lawyers are in the same boat, and that boat needs to end up where bin Laden ended up, on the sandy bottom.
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Id rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6.
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The people working in the twin towers that day didn't get a fair trial.
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Go watch all the 9/11 videos again, and the beheadings, etc and come back and say that bin laden desrves anything more than he got. They didnt torture him first? they're better men than I am.
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My dad says we should have put him in a building and crashed a plane into it so he know what it felt like.
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He should have died a long slow painfull death, thats a no brainier. What he got was the correct thing to do. If he had bee loaded onto that chopper alive we would be supporting him for the rest of his pathetic life.
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My great, great uncle works for the "blah.blah.blah." And he trains U.S. seals for Spec Ops. My grandma said from talking with him and the fact that we dumped his body into the ocean instead of burying him on land probably leads to all of the seals unloading a clip or two into Bin Laden and we dumped his body into the ocean so there would be no evidence of the "cruelty". But I'm not saying its true or not. But my great, great uncle really does work or the "blah.blah.blah." He was even sent to work at the brain washing farm in Virginia or quit some time.
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Like sgt is saying if i think my or someone’s life is in danger im taking the shot. No hesitation you don’t know if he has anything even if they did take him alive he still would have been executed. They just saved the government more money in this depression. Lol those seals should get a Nobile peace prize. But anyway if he was kept alive his brothers would have tired anything they could to get him back kidnaping others beheading them anything to try to force his safe return. A trial by your piers is an American right not his a non-american. Now back to his shooting I know when we did weapons training it was virtual and it’s a good thing but as were walking threw a warehouse there is a pile of boxes and in a split second a guy jumps up out of them and screams and flashes his flash light at us, we all 25 of us drew are weapons and fired. Good thing it was just a training cause he would have been dead and who would of got hung for it we would of. But at least we could of made it home that night
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Even though i have no law enforcement or military experience, yes i understand that in certain situations you only have a blink of eye to make serious decisions etc. However:
1) Then why wasn't saddam shot on sight?
2) Do you really think he (jerkladen) was really wired up with explosives especially after all this time? i mean to spend everyday for 9.5 years wired up because you think they could be coming at any time? (It appears that he wasn't.) It does not seem reasonable---too risky, too much hassle, not practical etc.
Unless he was tipped off, which is always a possibility, but that's where intelligence comes into play doing their homework thoroughly.
i am not unhappy with the outcome at all. i think our seals did a great job. i guess what i am asking is was there a reasonable possibility in this case to bring him in alive because the magnitude of this case/situation/person was so great i feel we needed a trial to better understand the whole awful situation and possibly learn from it. i know he would have been found guilty no question, but i feel we could have gotten more information if we had a trial.
P.S. His "wife" could very possibly also been wired (you know how they make their women do things), yet she was only shot in the leg when she rushed the seals?
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Stewart I cannot subscribe to your thoughts.
The wife was not the target, why would they wire her?
OBL was the target, he could've been boobytrapped in some way, just like people who have suicide bombed countless places, and taken dozens with him.
Hussein was in a dirt hole and not known for killing Christians just because. He wasn't the same type of terrorist as the leader of Al Qaeda. And, they came upon Hussein without months of planning and knowing where he was.
i feel we needed a trial to better understand the whole awful situation and possibly learn from it.
And, you want to see a court case? have you read anything i typed about national security, witnesses made public, spilling out all of our secrets? Are you sure you are American? Do you think we are out of this war now? We cannot possibly tell the world what we know. My God! Are you serious? The Feds have learned from it, Joe Citizen doesn't need to know, because then Joe Anchorman and Joe Newspaperman will learn and it will be all over the NY Times, because we know they are not worried about US secrets.
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When you're wanted dead or alive you don't have a choice. I prefer dead in his case. Too bad he wasn't tortured to death. He was nothing but a psychotic murderer. I have nothing but pure hatred towards him.
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When you're wanted dead or alive you don't have a choice. I prefer dead in his case. Too bad he wasn't tortured to death. He was nothing but a psychotic murderer. I have nothing but pure hatred towards him.
Now, now Vile. You know he did it all for his God and his beliefs. Dont we americans practice freedom of speech? *rolling eyes*.
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Historically speaking God starts alot of wars.
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"Historically speaking God starts alot of wars."
Historically speaking men start allot of wars over their gods, and religion of choice!
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Historically speaking God starts alot of wars
At school we have all learned about the four "famous" Crusades, beginning in 1095. Depending on the historian, there have been up to 9 Crusades up through Edward the I in 1272. But, it really depends on the definition of what a Crusade is. When is a mountain a mountain and not a hill? I feel the Crusades are still happening. Muslims are mad that we support Israel with war equipment. Palestinians have no place to go. Lebanon is constantly being terrorized. Jews have no "homeplace" to call, well, home. Today's terrorism against America is directly a result of the issues of the Middle East, starting back in the 11th century.
How many millions of people over the centuries have died as a result of religion--fighting for "their" God or Allah or whatever? For religion to cause such turmoil, you'd think the 'higher power' would appreciate the allegiance and rectify the situation, thus reducing bloodshed of him or it, if love is the ultimate goal.
It's like showing partiality in political views, everyone has their opinion. Who is right? Depends on your goal, whether based on selfishness or the continuation of the future. Knowing there are so many views of religions, tolerance must be priority. We have found that a millenia of wars is equivalent to spinning tires in the mud--getting nowhere.
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Ancient history was one of my favorite classes in college, very insightful as to the foundation of religions. And the basis of God's will as a starting point for war, was always interesting whether God wanted someone to have another ruler's wealth, or God wanted another religious sect's members to pray a different way, I always thought the christianization of western europe was the most interesting, to be honest. convert em once, get em paying taxes, when that falls apart, convert em again.
every tree has its nut, this one just had influence. him being dead isn't going to change much, but it lets anyone that wants to mess around know that if you screw with us, it may take 10 years, but one night, 10 guys are gonna sneak into your house and shoot you in the head.
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When is a mountain a mountain and not a hill?
When you have to re-jet the carbs and put a longer track on your snowmobile it's a mountain ;D
it lets anyone that wants to mess around know that if you screw with us, it may take 10 years, but one night, 10 guys are gonna sneak into your house and shoot you in the head.
Quoted for being awesome
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Grammar police
It's a lot two words.
See you learn something new everyday in 73-87 chevytruck land.
K back to killing Bin Laden
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See this is why i am atheist lol sometimes. For one who’s God is right??? How many cardinals have killed people for something they should/might just have jail time??? All this for what a guy that depends on who you talk to how/what he does or did. take this out of the bible God created mans out of his form, why did he create dinosaurs, and you can’t tell me late at night when you look up at the stars that you can’t think of how many more life baring planets there is. there was a study done that people would wear one of those brain wave helmets and were told that’s what they were studding then the scientist would send some signal to i believe it was the temple area and the people would see figures with no faces all around them. They concluded with more test that the human brain has to believe in something like a God so it won’t go crazy thinking im only here for how many days. Until some guy brings another holly war on us. But let’s get back to bin laden
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why did he create dinosaurs
Ummm, because dinosaurs are awesome
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why did he create dinosaurs
That's easy.
So 65 million years after the KT boundary, we could make the movie Jurassic Park.
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see now it all makes sense :o
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and to coin the term, fossil fuel.
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It's like showing partiality in political views, everyone has their opinion. Who is right? Depends on your goal, whether based on selfishness or the continuation of the future. Knowing there are so many views of religions, tolerance must be priority. We have found that a millenia of wars is equivalent to spinning tires in the mud--getting nowhere.
Very, very well put. Unfortunately we have fewer and fewer good examples of tolerant behavior these days. Between the talking heads and politicians, it's a constant barrage of accusations and personal attacks. My elders didn't act like that, and I'm pretty sure theirs didn't either, yet somehow, it has become acceptable to blast people and question their intentions and motivations. If we could get better at finding common ground, and better at looking past our differences, I think we'd find we all have more in common than we think.
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I'm very pleased that none of our men got injured.. I hope he knew what was coming, like when the towers got hit people jumping out the windows to death.. I have to say maybe they torture him a bit lol.. Just a bit.. If not that one to the head did it.. I want to see the pictures as some have said to.. Proud to be in the USA might slip for a bit they catch ya!!
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i hate to keep dredging it up, but watch this if you have time:
http://video.pbs.org/video/1917910631
i haven't even watched the whole thing.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110517/ap_on_re_us/us_bin_laden_raid
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So the compound was in Abbottabad, which isn't far from Islamabad. the copters took off from Jalalalalabad. Bin Laden thought when he heard the Seals was, "America is bad"
Since the Seals are stationed in Norfolk, Va, there is a referendum in the city council to rename Norfolk to Obamabad.
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^^^^ Like
(we should add a button like this similar to the facebook)
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Lmao i cant understand a dang thing sgt
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Lmao i cant understand a dang thing sgt
That's too BAD!
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obamabad
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How many cardinals have killed people for something they should/might just have jail time???
Thank God we've never had Cardinals down here big enough to kill someone! They are about normal size. I may quit feeding them just in case. Why would God make a bird big enough to kill anybody? ::)
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Just had to
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lol watch them there dangerous