bin landen dead

[Lt.Del]

Some wrongs don't make rights, unfortunately.  

For somone killing thousands of innocent people on behalf of some demented religion, then giving that criminal a world platform for speeches during a trial--to coax more followers, and the need to reveal our top national secrets during trial--all would have been wrong. Common sense must prevail sometimes.  It did.

– Bin Laden himself never held a gun or used a woman as a shield, as U.S. officials once reported, but authorities thought he was enough of a threat to warrant shooting him.

– U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday that bin Laden made no attempt to surrender.

makes my point completely....he wasn't coming out alive, no matter what.  Who's to say he didn't have explosives on his person which could've been detonated and knocked out a dozen Seals? They weren't taking any chances.

[TexasRed]

Some wrongs don't make rights, unfortunately. 

For somone killing thousands of innocent people on behalf of some demented religion, then giving that criminal a world platform for speeches during a trial--to coax more followers, and the need to reveal our top national secrets during trial--all would have been wrong. Common sense must prevail sometimes.  It did.

You have no idea what I was referring to. But you feel the need to keep justifying? I think you've stated your case, but if you wish to continue, I guess do so. I'll be working on my truck, thank you.

[Lt.Del]

After 20 yrs in law enforcement, it just gets my goat all the people who claim to know what's best and second guess what we do while they sit on their couch nice and comfy.  When one's life is at stake, or a fellow officer's or soldier's life, and precious seconds make the difference between success or failure and survival or death, knowing the subject matter has no value for life, all factors must be considered.  I'm tired of watching the news and people saying the officer shouldn't have shot, there was no gun, though the person was reaching for something and we would have to be killed before we can fire back.  Then the jurisdiction pays millions to the family once media gets the story because its the PC thing to do and gov't has no backbone to tell the people the real time of day.  Finally the gov't did something right and there are many who second guess it.  The people second guessing the actions conducted have never been in a situation where they didn't know they were going to live or die, and odds decrease substantially with each tick of the clock.  Decisions must be made on the spot, right or wrong, not with computers, but with human brains who react and consider all info in a split second.  That's all I'm saying.  Media and lawyers are in the same boat, and that boat needs to end up where bin Laden ended up, on the sandy bottom.    

[beastie_3]

Id rather be judged by 12, than carried by 6.

[Grim 82]

The people working in the twin towers that day didn't get a fair trial.

[78 Chevyrado]

Go watch all the 9/11 videos again, and the beheadings, etc and come back and say that bin laden desrves anything more than he got.  They didnt torture him first?  they're better men than I am.

[1979C20]

My dad says we should have put him in a building and crashed a plane into it so he know what it felt like.

[Blazin]

He should have died a long slow painfull death, thats a no brainier. What he got was the correct thing to do. If he had bee loaded onto that chopper alive we would be supporting him for the rest of his pathetic life.

[1979C20]

My great, great uncle works for the "blah.blah.blah." And he trains U.S. seals for Spec Ops. My grandma said from talking with him and the fact that we dumped his body into the ocean instead of burying him on land probably leads to all of the seals unloading a clip or two into Bin Laden and we dumped his body into the ocean so there would be no evidence of the "cruelty". But I'm not saying its true or not. But my great, great uncle really does work or the "blah.blah.blah." He was even sent to work at the brain washing farm in Virginia or quit some time.

[Irish_Alley]

Like sgt is saying if i think my or someone’s life is in danger im taking the shot. No hesitation you don’t know if he has anything even if they did take him alive he still would have been executed. They just saved the government more money in this depression. Lol those seals should get a Nobile peace prize. But anyway if he was kept alive his brothers would have tired anything they could to get him back kidnaping others beheading them anything to try to force his safe return. A trial by your piers is an American right not his a non-american. Now back to his shooting I know when we did weapons training it was virtual and it’s a good thing but as were walking threw a warehouse there is a pile of boxes and in a split second a guy jumps up out of them and screams and flashes his flash light at us, we all 25 of us drew are weapons and fired. Good thing it was just a training cause he would have been dead and who would of got hung for it we would of. But at least we could of made it home that night

[Stewart G Griffin]

Even though i have no law enforcement or military experience, yes i understand that in certain situations you only have a blink of eye to make serious decisions etc.  However:

1) Then why wasn't saddam shot on sight?

2) Do you really think he (jerkladen) was really wired up with explosives especially after all this time?  i mean to spend everyday for 9.5 years wired up because you think they could be coming at any time?  (It appears that he wasn't.)   It does not seem reasonable---too risky, too much hassle, not practical etc.

Unless he was tipped off, which is always a possibility, but that's where intelligence comes into play doing their homework thoroughly.


i am not unhappy with the outcome at all.  i think our seals did a great job.    i guess what i am asking is was there a reasonable possibility in this case to bring him in alive because the magnitude of this case/situation/person was so great i feel we needed a trial to better understand the whole awful situation and possibly learn from it.   i know he would have been found guilty no question, but i feel we could have gotten more information if we had a trial.


P.S.  His "wife" could very possibly also been wired (you know how they make their women do things), yet she was only shot in the leg when she rushed the seals?

[Lt.Del]

Stewart I cannot subscribe to your thoughts.  
The wife was not the target, why would they wire her?
OBL was the target, he could've been boobytrapped in some way, just like people who have suicide bombed countless places, and taken dozens with him.
Hussein was in a dirt hole and not known for killing Christians just because.  He wasn't the same type of terrorist as the leader of Al Qaeda. And, they came upon Hussein without months of planning and knowing where he was.

i feel we needed a trial to better understand the whole awful situation and possibly learn from it.

And, you want to see a court case?  have you read anything i typed about national security, witnesses made public, spilling out all of our secrets? Are you sure you are American? Do you think we are out of this war now? We cannot possibly tell the world what we know. My God! Are you serious?  The Feds have learned from it, Joe Citizen doesn't need to know, because then Joe Anchorman and Joe Newspaperman will learn and it will be all over the NY Times, because we know they are not  worried about US secrets.  

[VileZambonie]

When you're wanted dead or alive you don't have a choice. I prefer dead in his case. Too bad he wasn't tortured to death. He was nothing but a psychotic murderer. I have nothing but pure hatred towards him.

[1979C20]

When you're wanted dead or alive you don't have a choice. I prefer dead in his case. Too bad he wasn't tortured to death. He was nothing but a psychotic murderer. I have nothing but pure hatred towards him.

Now, now Vile. You know he did it all for his God and his beliefs. Dont we americans practice freedom of speech? *rolling eyes*.

[roadrage41]

Historically speaking God starts alot of wars.