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Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 06, 2012, 03:10:21 pm
Alright I am starting my new adventure of building a tilt front end. I purchase a fiberglass hood and fenders from www.up22.com. This way was much cheaper to go then buying the full tilt kit from usbody and I can make sure it's all line up as a I go.
Here is the fenders and hood.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/ffee0a68.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/ce75835a.jpg)
The hood is very nice. It is bolt on. The fenders are not as impressive and there is nothing bolt on about them. I'd actually be pissed if I recieved these and I planned to bolt these on the conventional way, but since this is going to be a full tilt front end I will glass them to the hood.
First I put my radiator core up to line up the hood.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/c3ad6dc9.jpg)
Next I spent quite a bit of time trying to get the gap right on the back of the hood. It was really uneven.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/64d2ccab.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/abccd2da.jpg)
I bolted to the hood hinge so it I could line it up with radiator core and took a cut off wheel to even up the gap at the back.
After it was evened up.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/3e3ab65c.jpg)
After I got the hood is were I liked I cut the radiator core of the headlight mounts.
This is going to be fixed into place.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/93856d7a.jpg)
I've spent some time lining the rest of it up.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/1b4e9cb0.jpg)
This is where I'm going to put the hinge. It is right behind the bumper.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/61514623.jpg)
This one is to show you why I am not impressed with the fenders.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/c97a2abd.jpg)
That's what I got done today. I should of gotten further, but I had a rough night.
More to come.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: bake74 on April 07, 2012, 09:52:52 am
     That is a daring undertaking to say the least.  Why did you decide to go with a tilt front end ?
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 07, 2012, 10:39:04 am
Quote from: bake74 on April 07, 2012, 09:52:52 am
     That is a daring undertaking to say the least.  Why did you decide to go with a tilt front end ?
Caffeine intake
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 07, 2012, 10:40:15 am
Quote from: bake74 on April 07, 2012, 09:52:52 am
     That is a daring undertaking to say the least.  Why did you decide to go with a tilt front end ?
Lol... I want easy access to the engine.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 10, 2012, 06:51:22 pm
I got quite a bit done today.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/4634e384.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/a0d175bc.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/1b89a921.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/edc494ba.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/3d945391.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/352c2808.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/2cb72da7.jpg)
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: VileZambonie on April 10, 2012, 07:03:52 pm
Agreed! Very daring. I swore I would never use Unlimited Products ever again. The fitment is atrocious and I had a hood that literally was a 1/2 shorter on one side. How do you fix those body gaps? lol Anyway, for what you are trying to accomplish you should be able to pull it off since you can essentially make your own body lines. Good luck with your build.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 10, 2012, 07:18:43 pm
The body lines are pitiful. The only gap I will have is the cab to the hood and I took a cut off wheel to even that out.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: bake74 on April 11, 2012, 06:44:58 am
     Nice progress, keep up the pics, would like to see how it turns out and the steps you take.
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 11, 2012, 07:27:36 am
Quote from: bake74 on April 11, 2012, 06:44:58 am
     Nice progress, keep up the pics, would like to see how it turns out and the steps you take.
Sure thing and if you need a closer view of anything let me know.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 11, 2012, 01:53:31 pm
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/9b8c520f.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/8c30bf0b.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/c5fea9c2.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/481a08cf.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/c89f1020.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/2c01c881.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/139eda17.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/b3701580.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/8be30b0f.jpg)
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 11, 2012, 02:01:25 pm
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/c98b448c.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/16d7969a.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/60a38faf.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/1ece0b5b.jpg)
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: bake74 on April 12, 2012, 06:41:51 am
     What are your plans on stabilization of the fenders where they meet the doors/cowl area, so they don't vibrate going down the road ?
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 12, 2012, 03:29:58 pm
Quote from: bake74 on April 12, 2012, 06:41:51 am
     What are your plans on stabilization of the fenders where they meet the doors/cowl area, so they don't vibrate going down the road ?
Well my friend I thought I would glass the end caps and put a dowel pin in one end to keep it aligned while a linear actuator squished it together. I don't think I'll get to work on it again until Monday though. I'd like to get the engine back in, but I'll hold my breathe.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 17, 2012, 08:13:21 pm
slower going then I want, but the driver's side is glassed in.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/31a5cc74.jpg)(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/336270d4.jpg)(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/0c1d604a.jpg)
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 17, 2012, 08:15:08 pm
aaand...I couldn't help the urge to cut the passenger side. (http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/68a638b8.jpg)(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/49eb514a.jpg)
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: bake74 on April 18, 2012, 08:05:28 am
     AH, I was wondering if you were going to cut the front something like that or make the whole fenders pick up.
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 18, 2012, 05:54:49 pm
Quote from: bake74 on April 18, 2012, 08:05:28 am
     AH, I was wondering if you were going to cut the front something like that or make the whole fenders pick up.
I like the look of the cut. It makes people know something has been done.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: Captkaos on April 19, 2012, 11:21:03 am
The reason the UP22 stuff is cheap as you have found is they are cheap.  They are made for a drag car not a show car.  I am impressed, I would never attempt this with UP22 parts.  Like Vile, I have gotten bad ones along with several friends, they are great for lightweight drag cars.  I have a US Body Tilt.  I will have another one eventually.

(http://www.73-87chevytrucks.com/projects/ad_truck/tilt_install/bodymockup_pass.jpg)
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 19, 2012, 01:28:19 pm
Quote from: Captkaos on April 19, 2012, 11:21:03 am
The reason the UP22 stuff is cheap as you have found is they are cheap.  They are made for a drag car not a show car.  I am impressed, I would never attempt this with UP22 parts.  Like Vile, I have gotten bad ones along with several friends, they are great for lightweight drag cars.  I have a US Body Tilt.  I will have another one eventually.

(http://www.73-87chevytrucks.com/projects/ad_truck/tilt_install/bodymockup_pass.jpg)
I'm glad I found out their lack quality in this project. I would hated if I expected all this to bolt on, but I probably would have made that work too. You're going to have a nice truck by the way have you got any further on that 6.0?
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: Captkaos on April 19, 2012, 01:40:54 pm
6.0L is plugging along, in my Driver truck linked below.  I should have new updates today...
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php/topic,12120.45.html
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 19, 2012, 03:34:35 pm
Quote from: Captkaos on April 19, 2012, 01:40:54 pm
6.0L is plugging along, in my Driver truck linked below.  I should have new updates today...
http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php/topic,12120.45.html
Looks like it is plugging along. My next project I plan on doing something fully electronic just not sure what yet. I've been contemplating a supercharged 3.8 from a pontiac in a Chevy II nova with an s-10 700r4. Right now I just gotta focus on getting my cummins back in.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on April 30, 2012, 10:38:00 pm
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/ddb8a1fd.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/88173813.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/cad858f6.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/e0592f8d.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/b05c6f86.jpg)
A weee lil update.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: bake74 on May 01, 2012, 07:03:17 pm
      Are you going to use those latch clips that I always see on front ends ?  If so are you putting them on the outside or inside ?
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 01, 2012, 09:35:46 pm
Quote from: bake74 on May 01, 2012, 07:03:17 pm
      Are you going to use those latch clips that I always see on front ends ?  If so are you putting them on the outside or inside ?
I'm doing a linear actuator. No clips. They have enough force to keep it down.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 01, 2012, 09:51:20 pm
I'm not to happy with the way the back top has lined up so I'm cheating. It's nothing a little fiberglass and foam won't fix.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/440b6ab5.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/3d8f83f9.jpg)
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: VileZambonie on May 02, 2012, 06:19:59 pm
What is the purpose of the foam?
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 02, 2012, 06:27:46 pm
Quote from: VileZambonie on May 02, 2012, 06:19:59 pm
What is the purpose of the foam?
I'm doing moldless fiberglassing.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: Captkaos on May 03, 2012, 03:06:55 pm
I am thinking about using Aerocatch on mine WHEN I get back to it.

http://www.aerocatch.com/aerocatch
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 03, 2012, 03:19:59 pm
Quote from: Captkaos on May 03, 2012, 03:06:55 pm
I am thinking about using Aerocatch on mine WHEN I get back to it.

http://www.aerocatch.com/aerocatch
That's something to think about. That British accent makes for an easy sell.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 05, 2012, 09:37:06 pm
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/e02b97b5.jpg)

(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/2ee7c981.jpg)

(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/d3bebbfc.jpg)

(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/aba1f1a2.jpg)

More progress.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 05, 2012, 09:39:50 pm
I actually got further then this, but it's to dark to take pictures.
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 07, 2012, 01:38:59 am
Quote from: Captkaos on May 03, 2012, 03:06:55 pm
I am thinking about using Aerocatch on mine WHEN I get back to it.

http://www.aerocatch.com/aerocatch
Well captain, I bought some of those on eBay. I think its to good an idea to pass up.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 07, 2012, 01:58:22 am
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/b8dfeb56.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/c0c62e4c.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/4d160050.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/5e3cb720.jpg)

A little eye candy.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 08, 2012, 09:38:23 pm
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/3d378788.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/0b2f3508.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/b7d574e8.jpg)
Did a lot a sanding a priming today. This was the first coat of primer. I've sanded and added a couple of other shots of high fill primer.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/ecdaa9bd.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/2d88c5d0.jpg)
I am putting a wastegasted 12cm housing on my H1C. I hope it clears the heater box and ac unit.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 09, 2012, 02:18:39 pm
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/0c5209f3.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/22357066.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/04fd4ba1.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/18969667.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/defd3e8f.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/9ce5734c.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/f4b543e5.jpg)

I got in some pretty cool parts today and the engine set back in the bay. I'm calling it quits until Sunday. I'm tired and still gots ta go back ta work....blah.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: VileZambonie on May 09, 2012, 08:33:41 pm
Nice progress!
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 11, 2012, 05:21:53 pm
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/7ecf9a87.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/85798357.jpg)
So pretty!
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: bake74 on May 12, 2012, 12:43:28 pm
     It will be nice to see it completed, especially seeing it all tore apart the steps you went through.
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 13, 2012, 10:29:05 pm
The engine is back in and I had to heavily modify the exhaust manifold or lose the wastegate. I wanted to keep it in case I have any surge issues.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/1d498a1a.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/0f0bb66f.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/2fa4082a.jpg)
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 15, 2012, 07:08:40 pm
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/e7995b36.jpg)
Battery relocation.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: Captkaos on May 21, 2012, 12:42:28 pm
Nice work!  And you got the Aerocatches!
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 25, 2012, 01:48:47 am
A little update. Went a different route with the turbo. He341. I did get the latches. Don't have them on yet.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/26057cf5.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/ba5723dd.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/7534772c.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/45b15bb7.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/3c87c37d.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/b2909aae.jpg)
4 in exhaust. That is a separate pump for the intercooler from a mustang. I am running a tranny cooler and a dirt bike radiator for the intercooler. Electric fan from a taurus.
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on May 28, 2012, 10:44:50 pm
I only have 4 inches of space between the inlet of my turbo and the oil filter. Instead of coughing up 200 bucks for an remote oil kit. I am building this out of fiberglass. I made it as wide as I can to keep it free flowing. I started with a 4 in drainage pipe and it like this.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/f252024d.jpg)
Used my wife's hot glue gun. Started shaping this floral foam. She went and got it for me a local hobby shop.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/a882e4e1.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/3c04fbbb.jpg)
This stuff will mold into anything you want with a dremel and a high speed disc sander.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/5b378e23.jpg)
Started laying fiberglass over the foam.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/c49c968b.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/41d8670c.jpg)q
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on June 04, 2012, 07:39:15 pm
my hood pins installed.
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/19260be4.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/f6e3febd.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/5a9735a2.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/7211052a.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/680ca999.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/c7d073db.jpg)
(http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s437/artistformerlyknownasjason/2407c610.jpg)
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: bake74 on June 05, 2012, 07:16:39 am
     I really like those hood pins, great choice.
Title: Re: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: 78 Chevyrado on June 09, 2012, 05:19:22 am
Dang, since I lifted my truck, that tilt front end looks worth its weight in gold for doing anything under the hood.  my belly would thank me, as everything sucks thats lower than the carb...lol ;)
Title: 88 suburban square body tilt front end
Post by: wildcatjason on June 09, 2012, 05:44:16 am
Quote from: 78 Chevyrado on June 09, 2012, 05:19:22 am
Dang, since I lifted my truck, that tilt front end looks worth its weight in gold for doing anything under the hood.  my belly would thank me, as everything sucks thats lower than the carb...lol ;)
I even bleed the clutch without crawling under the truck. Just sat on the tire.