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General Site Info => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bitzer! on September 10, 2007, 03:56:02 pm
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Can anyone tell me what model this truck is please. It has round headlights in a square grill if it helps!
Thanks
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It appars to be a 75-78 based on the front signals and headlight bezels. The VIN will tell you for sure. You could also look at the glovebox sticker if it is still there if you want to know more.
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that sure is a start, thanks. The glovebox sticker is missing but have the chassis/vin number but unsure how to decipher it! Not sure how to find this info as I'm the other side of the big pond!
CCD149F465240 - if anyone can help it'd be much appreciated as I need to start ordering parts and panels!
Its 05-30AM UK time and off to work! Enjoy yr sleep guys ;D
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That isn't the correct VIN for that truck, Crew Cabs were either 20 (3/4T) or 30(1T) series and the inline 250 was not availible on Crew Cabs and I would imagine it doens't have one in it. CCD149F465240 breaks down to:
C=Chevrolet
C=Conventional Cab
D=250 6cyl.
1=10
4=Pick-up
9=1979
F=Flint
Build Sequence=465240
As far as parts go anything from 73-80 will work for the majority of the parts especially sheet metal. (short of doors which are 73-76 and 77-91) You can even use 81-87(91) parts for everything but the fenders forward.
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looks like i've got a basket case then! I'll do some more digging and scratching :D
really loads of thanks for the info, at least I can get things moving!
cheers from rainy England :( but i'm used to it!
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Done some digging! It appears the truck I have is a bitzer! bits of this and bits of that!
The truck was built in the US and we think transported to an American Air Base over here in the UK. They used to then ship crates of parts over to keep them running. If most of the parts are interchangeable I guess thats what happened!
So I have a '73-'78 Chevy/GMC pick up from various sources!
I think it was Johny Cash that sang about a 49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57 automobile!
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Do these pick-ups have a separate chassis number different from the vin number? Any idea where I'd start looking for it?
Any guess at a model? Not sure what the K1500 C10 relates to over there.
cheers
Bitzer
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C means 2 wheel drive, K means 4 wheel drive.
10 is 1/2 ton, 20 is 3/4 ton, 30 is 1 ton.
Example a K30 is a 4x4 1 ton.
Being a crew cab, and buy the looks of the pic, it is 2 wheel drive so it would be a C20.
If the VIN doesn't break down right maybe someone changed the plate?
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You either have a C20 or C30 (only way to get a crew cab in 2wd)
The chassis will be stamped either on the side of the frame rail, or on top of it. (under the cab where you can't see it without removing the cab.
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C=Chevrolet GMC
C=Conventional Cab Crew cab
D=250 6cyl. 7.4 V8
1=10 not sure
4=Pick-up Correct!!
9=1979 Correct at a guess
F=Flint is this a colour?
Build Sequence=465240 does this matter!
Nice guys many thanks- looks like I'll be underneath it this weekend with a wire brush! The whole cab will be lifted off at a later date for the full works-But deffo 2wd :)
Does the US chassis number differ much from the UK style of layout?
Sorry for all the Q's
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C=Chevrolet GMC This is the Division, GMC = G
C=Conventional Cab Crew cab This is the chassis type, C= 4x2 K=4x4
D=250 6cyl. 7.4 V8 If it has a Big Block in it it will be Z or S depending on the year
1=10 not sure Yours would be either 2(3/4 Ton) or 3 (1 Ton)
4=Pick-up Correct!!
9=1979 Correct at a guess Yours based on the outside (front clip) could be either a 77 or 78 if the majority of pieces are correct. A picture of the hood would eliminate either 79-80 or 73-78.
1) clear turn lenses (76-80)
2) blacked headlight bezels (73-74)
3) 10 grille openings (77-80)
F=Flint is this a colour? This is the assembly plant where it was built Flint Michigan.
Build Sequence=465240 does this matter! Not really unless you have number 100001 which would have been the first one built.
Chassis number? The number I am talking about is the actual VIN number like above which is stamped on the chassis.
If it is on the frame it should look like this for example if it was a 1979 GMC 3/4T CrewCab with 7.4L engine built in Flint Michigan GCS249FXXXXXX...
You can look up VINs here for whatever you find: http://www.73-87chevytrucks.com/VIN.htm
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9=1979 Correct at a guess Yours based on the outside (front clip) could be either a 77 or 78 if the majority of pieces are correct. A picture of the hood would eliminate either 79-80 or 73-78.
1) clear turn lenses (76-80)
2) blacked headlight bezels (73-74)
3) 10 grille openings (77-80)
F=Flint is this a colour? This is the assembly plant where it was built Flint Michigan.
:-[ sorry to sugest Flint was a colour!
deffo got black bezels (if a bezel is the colour behind the light unit!) , clear turn lenses (under headlights) its got 10 grille openings. The hood is virtually flat with a ridge running from the front centre towards the windscreen about an inch wide. it also tapers about 6" either side towards each fender (wings?) I'll try and get a pic but its raining as always!
What's a front clip? sorry! ???
I'm sure I'll get the hang of the terms you guys use!
thanks again for all the help
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hope you can see this!
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Haha gotta love language differences between American English and English English! :P Basically "Front clip" refers to the front of the vehicle (the grille and such)
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Understanding English / English is hard enough ;D
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On the front edge of the hood there is either a pronounced area or not. I can't tell from the small picture you posted. I am thinking someone changed out the headlight bezels as the white turn lenses didn't go with the blacked out bezels.
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Is it easy ennough to swap the whole "clip" to the square lights (it looks like 4 rectangular)
Think it looks far sexier than what I have and back to the hood, guessing that any 73-80 one will bolt straight on?
Didnt get chance to crawl underneath over the weekend as guess what......... it rains in England a lot!
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Not really easy. You basically need everything from the doors forward, you will need to cut holes in the cowl to mount the 81-87 hinges, you will need to trim the bumper to fit the 81-87 bumper and you will need the donor wiring harness or modify you current harness.
Anything 73-80 will pretty much bolt directly onto what you have. Hoods are the same from 73-78, and then 79-80. Fenders are the same 73-80, inners are the same 73-80, core support is the same 73-80, bumpers are the same 73-80, headlamp bezels are 73-74, 75-78, 79-80. Grilles are 73-74, 76-76, 77-79 and 80. Hood latchs are 73-74 and 75-80. Ask if you have any questions.
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:'( looks like it'll stay stock (ish!) If I fit a different year hood there's not that many people over here that can tell the difference :D
I really appreciate all the help~ you can tell I need it!
Ordered some outer rocker panels today so should be here in a couple of weeks. The only downside is I've told myself I've got to finish the house before I start playing :D
I need some help on the terminology again! I need to repair the door shut where the roof meets the "A" pillar. The "A" pillar is the slopey one that holds the windscreen! Do you guys have a term for "door shut or do you call it a "door shut"!!!!
ta muchly as always
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I call them A pillars, the second one back is a B pillar, third one is C and so on. I think what we call door jamb is what your referring to as a door shut?
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thanks again for the info- at least I can talk about "A" pillars and you guys wont scratch yr heads and go "EH? Mad Englishman" :D
Any ideas if you can get replacement jambs or just a case of weld and grind!
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If you are wanting to replace the A-pillar rust, it will have be be fabbed and welded.
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the rot is jus below the gutter onto A post curve so I guess I'll plate it and fill it! always looking for an easy fix :D
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right here goes! This is my plan :D
1) MOT- over here we have to have an annual vehicle test, not sure if you guys do- they dont in Australia! So I'll get that done.
2) Bodywork and some sexay paint. nothing too fancy or bright probably red/black scheme
3) air bag suspension to make it low at a push of a button
4) Interior- its not too bad but need freshening up!
5) Engine- looking to build the 7.4 thats in it with all the whistles and bells! Oh an a blower sitting on the top and a 4speed semi auto box plus. Aiming for the 1/4 mile in about 12's
I'll have to remove the inner wings and poss make the front a "flip" hinged at the bumper. Serious amount of work, serious money ;D and one heck of a truck at the end!
I'll try and get some pics posted on the thread when I get a decent camera!!
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well guys, I thought I'd bring this back to life! Two and a half years of owning the truck things haven't quite gone to plan!
I completed all the welding underneath and 90% of the bodywork. New fenders, hood, front bed panel and new tailgate fitted and things were rolling along nicely. A deal came up with a local bodyshop > they were going to finish the bodywork and paint it for me and do the work when their main work was quiet (called a stocking/time filler!) In return, I'd pay half money and have their name as a sponsor on the truck 'cos it's so unusual over here, a head turner. I quickly pulled the engine/trans and they picked it up.
They had it 18 months, I was happy as many other projects on the go so the room in the garage was a bonus and was not worrying about the paint.
Then out of the blue, I had a phone call from them saying the deal was off and I had to remove it from their workshop!! They had left it outside for what looks like 6months >:(
The work they had done was minimal and additional scratches etc had appeared- not impressed.
I pulled it outta there within the week as requested and popped it in a mates yard. It's coming "home" Friday.
On a positive note > the engine went away to another company and they've rebuilt it to standard for me. Cleaned the bores, rings, shells mains etc - the guy that done it assures me it was a low mileage engine (85k ish) and that ties in with the speedo ;)
Any way, I think the way forward will be hang all removable parts in garage and I'll spray them in there then roll the bare cab and bed with sides and struggle!
Pics to follow!
The reason for this post is to warn you all there'll be more (silly) questions arriving on a screen near you!!
love you all ;)
Bitzer
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Pics for ya!
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That stinks man. keep us posted with pics.
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Can't wait to see more pictures as you progress. Sorry to hear about the deal going badly.
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Looking better bud,thats the trouble over here,finding somewhere big enough to keep the soddin things..lol
I know what your going through on the bodyshop side of things,least its not your brother who's kicked it out of the shop like mine... >:(
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Tell yr brother he's being rude!! Get it painted quick then flat and polish it next spring ;)
Hiding 24" of proper truck over here isn't the easiest thats for sure. When it's in my garage I have about a foot each end. It's at home now with eng/box removed and I can see he roof above the panel fence - neighbours love me lol
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Looking better bud,thats the trouble over here,finding somewhere big enough to keep the soddin things..lol
I know what your going through on the bodyshop side of things,least its not your brother who's kicked it out of the shop like mine... >:(
Brother will want something, someday....
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just in case it still matters to you..
your hood is a 79 or 80 and the bed is an earlier bed; having no gas door. maybe some one can help with the years on that. lookin good. keep the pics coming.
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Cheers 1980c10, my baby now has a new hood, fenders, tailgate and bed front panel!
Thankfully the years/parts are interchangeable ;) I'm going for a '79 guess!
Thanks everybody for all the input, that's why I chose the Bitzer! name, bits of this year and bits of that!
Just aquired a proper size compressor 8) and it cost me a favour - don't mind that. Ebay for hoses and connectors etc so by the weekend all I'll have to do is hardwire it into the garage electrics-easy peasy!!
Should get the primer next week so in the evenings again I'll be letting the missus watch her c*%p on the telly and I'll be prepping and priming!