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Offline jefferias

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questions bout winter tuning
« on: December 17, 2008, 08:48:13 pm »
k i have an 84 gmc 1500 2wd.  i swapped the 305 to a 350 this past january. the 350 came from an 89 tbi that i retro-ed back to carb and v-belts.  some mods but mild-edelbrock intake, headers with 2.5"duals, msd streetfire hei dizzy with vac advance, re-manned q-jet, recurve dizzy, 1"carb spacer open design.  my timing is at 10 base- 20 mechanical and vac advance at about 12 i think( dont got a advancable timing light so guessing there) the truck starts fine, runs strong, and all in all is much more impressive than the 305.  driving normal for me i get maybe 11.5-12.5mpg in town.  ill be driving to bc from edmonton alberta and going thru mountains and whatnot for x-mas.

 so this is the first "real highway" trip for me in this truck and just wondering if there is anything i should do in regards of timing  for best gas mileage. only gat the 3-spd so it just drinks the good stuff!  any thoughts or suggestions or even questions if i forgot to mention something will be greatly appreciated  thanks in advance!!!!!!!!!

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Re: questions bout winter tuning
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2008, 10:33:47 pm »
Too bad you jetisoned the TBI.  My TBI '91 4x4 2500 sub 350 gets better mpg (17 hwy, 13 street) than my '79 big 10 qjet 383 stroker.  Well, the sub does have a 4l80e overdrive, but weighs much more.

anyway, tbi gets better mpg in general than carbs.  What rear ratio?  since you don't drive long journeys often, as mentioned in your thread, you may benefit from a low rear ratio, versus a higher one if you do mostly city driving.

That's another thing about my trucks, the pickup has a 3.07 and it mainly does street driving.  Wish it was a 3.73 or so, but she will fly on the interstate and get good mpg there, but, street driving = 10mpg.

Now for your one long journey, I'd personally block off some of the radiator if you're not pulling anything (warm engine uses less gas than cold one) and perhaps turn the air mix screw 1/2 turn out if you don't need the extra power. That ensures you don't run rich (but check it first on a small run to see if it will be ok).  Check for vacuum leak prior to the trip by spraying a little wd40 around the engine vacuum lines while idling and see if the rpms shoot up. locating a leak around a line or gasket.  Let the carb breathe, invert your air cleaner upside down, as I do in my trucks.  Gradually build up speed and dont accelerate up hills, just hold steady.  Who cares if you lose a little speed from take offs and hills, your mpg will increase by doing so.  Check timing before the trip too.  I usually advance mine just a tad going against recommendations.
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Offline jefferias

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Re: questions bout winter tuning
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2008, 05:46:33 pm »
yeah i got a 10 bolt 3.08.  i hate it for city driving but i guess it will help a bit on highway.   for the mixture screws wouldnt it be turn IN not OUT to lean it out?????  i do have a cover on the front off the truck right now. as for vacumn leaks there isnt any. i also have a open filter under the hood as it sits now.  so i guess my question is how much advance should i let thru on the adj. vac advance on the dizzy.  i heard 12 for non-egr and 16 with egr-  i think im around 12 cause i dont have egr right now.  thanks del

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Re: questions bout winter tuning
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2008, 10:09:18 pm »
Yes, you are correct, in for leaner.  But that is really just for idle adjustments, not beneficial for higher rpms.

As for advancing the distributor timing.  I usually turn distributor counter clockwise a little at a time between test runs.  If it starts to pin (detonate) back off it (retard slightly).  I usually find that the engine runs better that way (better mpg efficiency). As far as it being 8, 10, 12 or 16 degrees advance, each engine feels differently.  There are those who say hook up a light and do it right, but, by doing this to my sub, she felt like an anchor was behind it. It's tougher to find the sweet spot on computer controlled cars because of the anti-knock sensor, the computer advances or retards depending on knock, which you seldomly feel.