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Offline cwilson jr

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intake manifold/carb
« on: February 27, 2007, 11:43:00 pm »
looking at getting a performance intake.  do you just remove the old one and bolt the new in or is there something else to it?  any reccomendations?  looking for one that has no egr.

i will eventually be getting a new carb as well, any combinitions to look for?  i believe around 600cfm w/vac. secondaries and elec. choke is the way to go?

i appreciate anyone pointing me in the right direction.  this is for my 85 350.

Edited by: cwilson jr at: 2/27/07 11:54 pm

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Re: intake manifold/carb
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2007, 08:36:00 am »
You didn't give any info as to what you are looking for.  What rpm range?  The word "performance" means different things to different people.

You can get an idea here from the edelbrock.com intake page.

Are you looking at staying under 5500 rpms, or more like 6500+.  Lots of options out there: performers, performer RPM, torker, torker II, etc.....

I personally have the edelbrock performer 3701 (egr)(up to 5500 rpms) on my 383 stroker and love it.

ebay listings for "Che* intake edelbrock"


Replacing intakes is not hard.  You won't have to remove the heads..just make sure you intall the gaskets correcetly and torque the bolts in the correct sequence so you won't warp your intake.  Remove the old in the correct sequence as well so one can reuse it later. It is very important to loosen/tighten a bolts a little at a time--for each bolt.  

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Re: intake manifold/carb
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2007, 01:08:00 pm »
i imagine prob. not over 5500, just looking for a little more power from a street weekend driver.


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Re: intake manifold/carb
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2007, 03:24:00 pm »
alright, looks like i'm going with an edelbrock 2701 intake, not sure what the diff. is between the 2101, but i believe the 2701 is better?
and going with an edelbrock 1406 carb.

now are these carbs ready to just bolt on and go or is there any adjusting needed?


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Re: intake manifold/carb
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2007, 04:49:00 pm »
this is from the 2701...


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Dyno tests showed gains of 5 hp and 9 ft/lbs of torque over the Edelbrock Performer manifold #2101 on a 350 Chevy. From 3000 to 4500 rpm, the increases averaged 5+ ft/lbs. of torque for more performance where you need it most. Look for the Performer EPS to "up the standards" in dual-plane intake manifold design.


Also, look a the carb mount...a little different.

2101 is direct stock replacement. the Performer EPS 2701 is a little more umph.


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Re: intake manifold/carb
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2007, 12:09:00 am »
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Also, look a the carb mount...a little different.
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2101 is direct stock replacement.


you're right.  you just saved from a hassle.  looks like the 2101 it is.  thanks.  also with this carb, i hear it should be pre-adjusted or whatever where you don't have to mess with it.  is this true?

Edited by: cwilson jr at: 3/1/07 12:11 am

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Re: intake manifold/carb
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2007, 09:39:00 pm »
Old post, but I thought I would add in my two cents, since I just went through this.

I have the edelbrock performer intake manifold on my SBC, with the EGR.  I also went with an edelbrock 600cfm carb, vac seconds with an electric choke.

You will need to buy an inline fuel filter when you put this carb on.  Your stock Q-Jet should have a filter in the carb.  The edelbrock does not.  You can put the filter between the pump and the carb.  It's also a good idea to replace the fuel line that will go from your filter to the carb, with new line.  If you leave the old line on, you can get debris in the carb from the little pieces of rubber and dirt inside the old line.  

Next thing, is you'll need a new stud set.  Since your Q-Jet most likely uses the combination of long and short bolts, you'll need the new studs to thread into the manifold for the edelbrock carb.

When I got mine, I needed new brackets to support the throttle and kickdown cables.  You may or may not need this bracket, depending on your setup.

If you're using an aftermarket air cleaner assembly, check to see if it's a low rise or high rise bottom plate.  The low rise on mine wouldn't clear the carb completely on the passenger side.

Lastly, when I put mine on, the floats needed to be adjusted.  They were set too high (probably from bouncing around during shipping) and causing flooding.  You may or may not need to do this.  Mine also needed plenty of fine tuning with the idle and idle mixture screws.  

The DVD included with your new carb will explain how to properly tune it to your needs, but you'll probably have to tune it at least a little.

Hope this makes your life easier.


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inline fuel filter
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2007, 02:07:00 am »
Amen on putting in the inline fuel filter, years ago I made the mistake of not doing this and it costed me dearly, the whole thing is just to depressing to talk about. Get one of the clear ones, you can see if any trash gets in it, and they're fun to watch, if you're easily amused as I am. Good luck!


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Re: inline fuel filter
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2007, 06:14:00 pm »
i just thought about this.  when you say the 2101 is a stock replacement and the 2701 is diff. it just diff. where the carb bolts on or on the bottom itself.  because if i'm going with a non-stock carb does it matter?

basically i'm going with a 1406 edelbrock carb and want either the 2701 or 2101 intake manifold.  now will they both just bolt up or is one different?


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Re: inline fuel filter
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2007, 08:11:00 pm »
The carb will ofcourse have to be the same bolt pattern, and not sure if that is a square pattern or not.


I ordered my qjet from Parts Automotive Wharehouse...


www.pawinc.com/

They have a phone number you can call, which I did when I was trying to figure on which parts to get.  Those guys are very knowledgeable and helpful.  They had the best prices around.  That is where I bought my carb.

You can  email/call the edelbrock people from their website, posted on my earlier response above.   Here is the info


Edelbrock Corporation Headquarters
2700 California Street
Torrance, CA 90503

Phone: 310-781-2222
Fax: 310-320-1187
Tech Line Only: 800-416-8628




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Edited by: SgtDel  at: 3/14/07 7:14 pm