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Offline dudeatlarge

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NP203 shifter question
« on: July 14, 2013, 01:43:40 pm »
So my transfer case  shifter doesn't work properly due to it being all gunked up. So to clean it do I take it off and pressure wash it and then into the parts washer? Once cleaned what do I need to lube it with?

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1974 GMC K2500, Super Custom, Camper Special, 350, TH350, NP203, 4.10's

Offline Jason S

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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2013, 02:35:08 pm »
For both of my trucks:  I took the shifter off the truck, scrubbed down the outside with a wire brush and soapy water.  Then I disassembled the shifter and thoroughly scrubbed down the internal parts. Then I just reassembled using wheel bearing grease for the pivot and wear surfaces.  It's been almost a decade so I can't remember exactly what variety of grease, but it was likely just the garden variety multi-purpose wheel bearing grease.
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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2013, 01:22:37 am »
Thanks for your reply. I will get it out next weekend and give it a good going over.
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Offline rich weyand

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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2013, 10:26:04 am »
I'm going to piggy-back here rather than start a new thread.

Anybody know why a NP203 shifter would rattle?  It rattles when driving in HI, but not in HI-LOC.  NP203 is modded with manual hubs.

Is there supposed to be a rubber bushing in there somewhere?
Rich

"Working Girl": 1978 K-10 RCSB 350/TH350/NP203 +2/+3 Tuff Country lift

Offline Jason S

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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2013, 08:35:59 pm »
Is there a specific speed or rpm or gear that the shifter will rattle or is it rattling across the entire operating range?
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1974 Chevrolet K10, Custom Deluxe, 350, SM465, NP203, 3.73's

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Offline rich weyand

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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2013, 02:02:19 am »
Across the entire operating range.  It just rattles like it's loose or a bushing is missing or something.  In LOC it doesn't, but then it is pushing harder against the boot, and I think that is damping it.
Rich

"Working Girl": 1978 K-10 RCSB 350/TH350/NP203 +2/+3 Tuff Country lift

Offline Jason S

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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2013, 07:27:20 pm »
It just rattles like it's loose or a bushing is missing or something. 

Looking at the the two arms coming out of the shifter, there should be plastic bushings in the linkage holes on the shifter arms. If those bushings are missing or excessively worn you could get some rattles.   


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1974 Chevrolet K10, Custom Deluxe, 350, SM465, NP203, 3.73's

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Offline rich weyand

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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2013, 09:56:28 am »
Thanks!
Rich

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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2013, 01:24:01 am »
From the parts book, looks like there is a grommet on the NP205 shifter rod, but not on the NP203 shifter rods.
Rich

"Working Girl": 1978 K-10 RCSB 350/TH350/NP203 +2/+3 Tuff Country lift

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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2013, 02:18:18 am »
there should be one. dont know a part number but google np203 shifter bushing many people with same problem. some say you can use a plastic bushing from the "help" section at parts stores
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Offline rich weyand

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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2013, 12:46:31 pm »
Nobody says anything about sizes.  Anybody know (or have an NP203 in the garage you can measure) what the I.D., O.D., and thickness of those bushings should be?  Do they have a shoulder, and, if so, how thick?
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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2013, 10:58:15 pm »
yeah rich i was running into the same problem about size when i was searching for them. still no answer
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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2013, 06:07:59 pm »
Got under the truck and all the bushings are fine, rods are tight, etc.  But I still have shifter rattle and about 2"-3" of fore-and-aft slop in the shifter handle.

Which means that the shifter handle is loose in the shifter assembly.

Looks like an ORD twin-stick in my future.
Rich

"Working Girl": 1978 K-10 RCSB 350/TH350/NP203 +2/+3 Tuff Country lift

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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2013, 09:32:58 pm »
Oops.  The other thing it could be is loose bolts connecting the upper half of the shift lever to the lower half.  Saw that setup in the drawings, so pulled the boot and checked it.  Took 15 minutes -- no more rattle, no more slop.

They really should be shoulder bolts....
Rich

"Working Girl": 1978 K-10 RCSB 350/TH350/NP203 +2/+3 Tuff Country lift

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Re: NP203 shifter question
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2013, 09:51:20 pm »
Quick and easy fixes are always a good thing.
1973 GMC K2500, Super Custom, Camper Special, 350, TH350, NP203, 4.10's
1974 Chevrolet K10, Custom Deluxe, 350, SM465, NP203, 3.73's

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