i guess what i'm getting at is when he pays for his truck, in cash and gets the title signed, how does he know that it has no lien on it. He has to take the paperwork to the border and 72 hours later he can bring the truck home. If they find a lien, SOL. Not sure that we'll even have a problem, just trying to cover all my bases. By the way, the truck is in Salem. Thanks Blazin for the quick reply, maybe I should have asked a few question before tonight, seeing as we're leaving in a few hours. Thanks again.