Ya, it's always, "my kid would never..." well maybe if you'd have whipped your kids butt when he needed it or society had punished him when he was 12 and first got into trouble, instead of the slap on the wrist, he wouldn't get shot when he's 15. They might not know it or show it but kids need and want limits and rules. Too many people today are worried about the "feelings" of the purp and not the victim.