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Offline JohnnyPopper

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Re: Transmission upgrade and Drive line Advice
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2024, 02:36:19 pm »
You guys with numbers at the ready just kill me ;D

Thanks EJ! Very Helpful!

From the time I had my first truck, I was told that your fuel efficiency was best at your max torque RPM point. Any truth to that?

I know there are variables that affect each outcome, just wondering if is true or urban legend?

1957 Apache 3100 235 Inline 6, 3 on the tree
1973 C-20, 3+3 454 4BBL TH400  Water Injection
1978 K-10, 350 4BBL TH350 NP203 M.M. Part time Kit/Hubs
1980 C-10 under construction

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Re: Transmission upgrade and Drive line Advice
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2024, 03:23:50 pm »
Johnny;

Lowest Brake Specific Fuel Consumption (BSFC) occurs at or around peak-torque. That is where the engine is the most efficient with the use of fuel, but usually this does not coincide with the best fuel economy for the total vehicle because of variables outside of the engine like aero drag and rolling drag.

Typically for best fuel efficiency you want to aim for the lowest RPM that keeps the converter locked-up.
-Erik-
1991 V3500 - Gen V TBI 454, 4L80E, NP205, 14 bolt FF, D60, 8" Lift on 35s
1977 K20 Silverado - 350, THM350, NP203, 14 bolt FF, D44, Stock Lift on 31s
1969 Chevelle Malibu Sport Coupe - EFI350, THM350
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Re: Transmission upgrade and Drive line Advice
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2024, 07:40:34 pm »
EJ that makes the most sense to date. Thx!

My gut told me that if your RPM is at its highest torque level, then ebbs and flows of torque demand would be in a sweet spot. I mean, your engine is offering the most it can in that range.

Having said that, I guess it's simply a math equation that determines mass/RPM of any given engine spec.

My first truck, "57 Apache 3100 had a 235 CID that developed max torque at 2000 RPM. Pretty slow in the late '70s. OD made quite a difference...

With your calculations in this tread, I will try to determine the max torque of my motor, and try to pin the gearing to stay in that range in my 65 mph cruising.
1957 Apache 3100 235 Inline 6, 3 on the tree
1973 C-20, 3+3 454 4BBL TH400  Water Injection
1978 K-10, 350 4BBL TH350 NP203 M.M. Part time Kit/Hubs
1980 C-10 under construction

Offline ehjorten

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Re: Transmission upgrade and Drive line Advice
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2024, 10:33:03 am »
Johnny;

I would say 35's and 4.11s, but that means having both front and rear gears re-done, which isn't inexpensive. Couple that with switching over to an overdrive transmission and mating it to your transfer case. It is gonna cost you a pretty penny and it will never pay for itself, but it will make it a much more enjoyable truck to drive and you might be able to recoup some of the investment later down the road, selling it.
-Erik-
1991 V3500 - Gen V TBI 454, 4L80E, NP205, 14 bolt FF, D60, 8" Lift on 35s
1977 K20 Silverado - 350, THM350, NP203, 14 bolt FF, D44, Stock Lift on 31s
1969 Chevelle Malibu Sport Coupe - EFI350, THM350
1968 Chevrolet Step-side Pickup - 300HP L6