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73-87 Chevy _ GMC Trucks => Members Rides => Topic started by: FearNoMan78k10 on April 17, 2014, 03:57:07 pm
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I am new to the site.my name is Andrew, I'm 25 , married , live in the mountains of Colorado and I am disabled from a car accident . I love 4x4's , It's something I've always been into since a kid , all I've owned since 15 was trucks, I just love trucks, Ford doesn't count they dont make a real truck they sell problematic headaches of vehicles , I was a diesel mechanic and Ford was most of our business because they broke down all the time lol, anyways love trucks , dislike the wanna be Ford nation of "truck" drivers. Lol anyways ... I have a 78 k10 4x4. I purchased it about 2 months ago. I just got new tires for it, 33x12.50r16 Hancook Dynapro mud terrains. It has a 12 bolt rear and 10 bolt front right now. So a 6 lug and it had a 305 small block in it. It has the 205 transfer case and manual locking hubs right now. As well as the 4 speed manual transmission. I am installing a 454 out of a 1972 chevelle ss in this truck, it is a high performance original block. It is bored over .030 thousandths and is getting a makeover throughout, I have a dana 60 kingpin straight axle with disc brakes for the front and a dana 70 for the rear axle. So that is all getting installed and worked on to be brief, also complete frame restoration !. 4 inch lift will be added during this project as well as many other items. If you would like more details or want to follow just let me know !
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With a SM465 (I assume that is the transmission you are putting in it), and 1 ton axles, this thing should be a beast on wheels.
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Thanks bake!!! It does have the sm465 already in it :-) I had a turbo 400 trans with the short short tail shaft but I sold it because I wanted to keep the manual ! Im thinking you just may be right it "should" be a beast when it's done we will have to see haha, ANY TIPS at all would be much appreciated.. We are estimating a true 625 650rwhp for the truck. It will be a different truck from the 305 it had in it that was needing alot of love, it originally had the 350 in it so i was told, i will have to do some more homework on this trucks past history that's for sure :-)
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454 , bored over .030" , forged rods and pistons , flat top pistons with valve reliefs, Howard's springs, full solid roller camshaft , roller rockers , roller lifters , chromoly push rods, ported intake on the heads , polished on the exhaust side , decked head, arp head studs, intake manifold port matched to the head, ..... valve bracket supports, stage 3 intake manifold ( 1500 to 6500 rpm ) , full custom built Holley 830cfm double pumper carb , Hooker super competition headers , 2.5" dual exhaust with flowmasters, balancing rotating assembly, blue printing the motor, every nut and bolt, carter fuel pump, new 12" heavy duty clutch and flywheel , new harmonic balancer, new radiator, new oil pickup pump, new seals and gaskets top to bottom, this is a 454 big block out of a 72 chevelle ss, original high performance motor . And it is getting a makeover :-) my treat to myself after everything I've been through..... , Bake here are some details and other members as well here are some details on the 454 big block . :-)
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sound like a nice truck being built. also if your taking pictures with your phone. you could download the photobucket app then use the img code from there and post them on here
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Hey thankyou hopefully it will be. I have given up quite a bit to get to this point . Thanks for the tip I was having issues with the size of the picture, and uploading the fotos . I will try to get on with photo bucket as an app on my phone , I did have it at one time not too long ago on my phone.
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Tow truck driver is picking me up then we picking the truck up and bringing it here at the house so I can do some serious sanding and painting on the frame , bed is coming off the dog house is off right now ( front end , hood and front side fenders ) and so I will be sanding and painting everything , then the truck will be taken back to the shop for the engine and 1 ton axle install. It's a beautiful day today in Colorado and so we will see how much sanding ill be able to get done today ! Ill post pictures up real soon . A couple hours I'd say.
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We'll the tow truck driver never picked me up but did pick the truck up and a few body parts that we have detached for prep work. I am in the process of moving the truck and all the parts right now to a different location. Okay .... So this weekend was insane and my wife ( she is so cool ) helped me tremendously on this truck, sanding and polishing and primer and painting the frame restoring it this past weekend. I am trying to get all the pics on one URL . After busting through 40 years of rust dirt grime old paint and all the above it is now restored 75 percent. The right way not cutting corners on the job. I took detailed pictures and will be posting them soon . The cab still needs to be taken off and the frame sanded to metal, polished then primered and painted again. So about 4 feet of this trucks frame hasn't been touched yet. Due to time funds and tools lol. Hopefully we will do the frame and under the cab restoring the cab very soon. Now it is time to install the Dana 60 kingpin front axle and the Dana 70 for the rear axle and replace shocks with longer ones add leaf springs and put new suspension component on. The body of the truck still needs a lot of tlc to break through the oxidation of 40 years of accumulation but I will be posting the body and cab restoration here as well. Motor is being sent out in a few days to the machine shop for some work to the rotating assembly, bearings, balancing and head work. Truck won't be done for a little while but that's alright !!! By the way guys I am disabled and have broken my back so this is a real treat for me. I'm not some rich punk building a truck. It's blood sweat and tears into this truck. It's a privilege to do the things to this k10 that I am doing and i feel very fortunate. So for all you who struggle day in and day out to make ends meet like we do please just don't judge or envy me or the truck. I have been through alot in my life and had to sell everything I've owned multiple times, and I have sold a lot just to be able to have a awesome truck again. I'm disabled and stay around the house a lot so you guys reading this please respond if your interested in the project or just chatting about trucks I'd love to talk!
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FearNoMan78k10, I hate to hear about your back and the trouble you have gone through. One thing about this site that you will learn (and why I am proud to be a member here) is that this is a family site and the moderators do a wonderful job of keeping it that way.
Bashing and plain old being stupid is not allowed here, I have seen members being banned for 5 days several times because of not obeying the rules that everyone agrees to when signing up. Some come back and apologize for the mistakes they made and some do not come back, which is OK with me if they can not be helpful. If you do not have anything positive to say, then don't say anything is my thought.
Everyone here is trying to help each other out with our hobby and/or passion. Sometimes information is given that is just wrong and there is a reply that states the author of that statement is wrong and backs it up with facts (hopefully), some see the response as criticism, but nobody here wants to see a vehicle get damaged, or more importantly someone get hurt from the wrong information.
So when you need help ask, if you have information that will help someone, please fell free to impart. I have stopped visiting some sites because of the attitudes with the members and the moderators not doing anything to curb it.
This is for everyone who reads this, help make this site the best on the web for our years of trucks, and thank you all for the effort everyone puts into this site.
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Nice work! I wish my frame looked half as nice.
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Hey minus1 thanks I greatly appreciate it!!! Every nook and cranny we could hit with the sander Dremel tool wire wheel and brushes, we sanded and stripped to bare metal. and after it was all done I forgot to take pics after the sanding and polishing stage on the frame where it was shiny. Inside of the frame was hit too with tools. It was an insane amount of work I'll say that lol
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It can look just as nice minus if you do it yourself and take your time you could totally do it bro!
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nice job on the frame.
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Hey thanks Dave I greatly appreciate it !
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You guys made short work of that frame, nice job.
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Thanks bake! it was 3 solid days , Friday , Saturday and Sunday, and with a sander , dremel tools and bits , a wire wheel on a grinder, and a few other simple non power tools to get the job done , one thing I really really wish I would of done is take pictures of the frame when it was finished with all the final sanding, wire wheeling etc. the braces and brackets attached to the frame were sanded it its entirety. But as you probably know there is just a couple areas we just couldn't reach with the power tools and hand tools. I would humbly say ..... That about a true 90 percent or more of the frame was restored completely and the other missing areas that were impossible in every human way to get to I told my wife this summer we will look for some odd shaped sanders and tools for the 90 degree corners inside the frame rail. Bake I never thought it was humanly possible for me being disabled and my wife helping every second during the day to be able to get it done in just 3 days . The last few days I have done nothing but sit around like I normally do. A seventeen year old hit me doing 45 to 50 when I was stopped and rear ended me and broke my back in all kinds of places, then I went 10.5 months with a broken back he sure no doctor believed I was hurt they all thought I wanted pain pills because of my tattoos and earrings ,,,, so I deal with a plethora of body pain and problems so for us to he able to even physically work on the truck is hard for me let alone how much work it took to get it done !!! I'm very happy and thankful that's for sure !!! Bake thanks for the positive words brother !
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Can SOMEONE or one of the staff members PLEASE tell me how to get 40 years of oxidation and whatever is keeping the body from returning back to the original factory shine without spending 150 hours buffing and waxing it ? What products should I use, what is the steps and process, any professionals out there in BODY and paint restoration please HELP me , I'm not a body pro . I spent 3 days jut getting mainly the front right fender panel and the passenger door buffed to a point where I said wow this is just unreal how beautiful the paint is but my goodness fellas this is INSANE how much buffing pads , carnauba wax ( did I spell that right ) and the wax that restores or helps to restore, from meguiars car products. I am using a 5 inch buffer from craftsman with a 3500 rpm rating, ALSO . Long story short, previous owner replaced bed with new one painted it to match feels like and looks like NO clear coat, now the front half is buffing out very very slowly , I haven't even touched the hood . So basically the front half of the truck isn't going to match the back half and it will look off, you body and paint experts please please help me so i can attempt to restore the paint to a high gloss shine . Any help would be much appreciated!
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Others will chime in also. But paint and oxidation is what it is. Unless you are willing to strip, or go out and buy a high speed orbital buffer, it is time spent trying to "peel" back the layers of oxidation the years have put on.
If it was a cheap paint job the oxidation can go all the way through the paint, if it was several layers (good paint job) then maybe it just went through 1 or 2 layers. It just depends, sorry but that is the best answer I can give you.
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It can look just as nice minus if you do it yourself and take your time you could totally do it bro!
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Thanks for the vote of confidence. I didn't take mine down to the metal just worked with a wire brush and degreased everything. I'm going to try my luck with Chassis Saver (right or wrong I don't know). Any way nice work you're doing. Really like the color of your truck. 8)
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Hmmm seems then I will have to repaint the bed to get it to match the front. And try to buff out everything but the bed. If it doesn't work out then I will want to repaint the whole truck the same exact color it was. Hopefully .. We can get the paint to match exact, I wonder if I would save myself a lot of headache by stripping the paint and having it professionally paint matched first, buy the paint , strip the truck, sand and clean then primer and paint it. The entire truck, I just worry they won't be able to get the exact color . High gloss burnt orange is what it looks like to me. Any thoughts guys? Repaint bed and call it good ? Or strip it all down and repaint the truck the same color? I'd really like to do that but wonder just how much I might be looking at spending to do that. We'll hey man I will be keeping up with your build minus. I would go with that product I looked it up seems pretty good stuff, it ought to look really nice when it's done minus !!! Thanks I'm glad you think so, thanks bro I like the color too! And want to save that color !
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Anyone know about where to find paint that would look exactly like the color I have on the truck so I can do some painting ?
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The bed of the truck is going to look way off unless I do something about it, any suggestions ,,,, how much would paint cost for the entire body ? Question ,,,, once the bed is painted even if it is color matched it will always look off am I correct ? Is it worth a repaint? I'm stuck as what to do
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Look through the GM Heritage pages in our tech section which has a link, here (http://forum.73-87chevytrucks.com/smforum/index.php?topic=18701.msg149510#msg149510), you just need to open and find your year of truck and browse through all the information.
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Thanks for the link and the info , it's 177 pages to scroll through , I'm still trying to go through them all ... I appreciate it bake right on !
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You can go ahead and paint mine while you're at it.... :D
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Lol that would be awesome wouldn't it? I think I'm going to do that this summer ,,, paint the truck,
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Sweet....I'll have mine ready for ya! LOL
I don't think I can do mine until next spring. I'll prob just do the same color.
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Lool and some Benjamin's while your at it loool. Hey that's not that far off man. Yeah you should do that, same color sometimes turns out the way you were hoping it would as opposed to another color
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yep....just have to be patient. Was hoping to paint it now but I haven't be able to sale my 4runner.
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You can take the truck to almost any auto parts store that mixes paint and they will have a gadget that will color match the paint. It has a photo eye in it that will tell the computer how to mix the paint...... An excellent tool because it takes into account sun fade. Using the factory paint code will still give you a two tone truck.....unless you plan on painting the whole truck.
And this is just my opinion, but I would opt for a factory full float 14-bolt out of a 3/4-ton truck over your Dana70. The 14-bolts are better, way plentiful, and usually cheap and ready to bolt right in. Since your Dana70 is out of a 1-ton you will have to move the spring perches to make them mate to the 1/2-ton springs. Find a 3/4-ton 14-bolt and you won't have to move the perches.
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Well hopefully you can sell your 4runner soon . then just keep it on craigslist and update it and see if you can paint your truck this summer
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Hey engineer thanks so much for that info that's flat out awesome. I will seriously be doing that then this summer... Awesome tip man I never knew that.
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My Dana 70 is a full floating and is very strong, you might have to do some serious convincing to change my mind to sell it and pick up a 14 bolt, tell me all the pros and cons on both axles. Dana 70 is capable of handling quite a bit of torque and power. Why would I want a 14 bolt over the Dana 70 engineer ?
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OKAY SO HUGE PROBLEM , ENGINE NIGHTMARE,,,,,,,,, guys the engine I have is bored .030 over and people can read the specs of what we were doing to it. Well the engine had the bottom assembly removed in its entirety because the cylinder wall are scored big time , gouges , grass seed in the water passages and coolant jackets, trans fluid in engine, nasty black crud in areas of the engine, spray paint on valves and springs, block was never decked, the list goes on, we got the heads off , immediately knew we had a serious problem, after pulling intake manifold and already seeing major signs of a complete bomb of a original engine that was so hyped up by my dad's best friend , so I added my own parts list to it, once we dove into the motor we have run into messed up this scored bearings THROUGHOUT, rust spots INSIDE the main journal underneath the bearing. Scored and gouged crankshaft, I mean to tell you guys it's a nightmare for me. UNBELIEVABLE how much it's going to cost to fix this not to mention having to bore and stroke it to a 496 because of the damage. I don't know what to do. The magnaflux is being done today. Hot tanked yesterday . Guys is it worth it to keep going or should I spend the non existing 2200 on a 502 block and build forged internals from the ground up? This will take longer and about the same amount of money I would be spending boring and stroking it. Guys I have ROYALLY gotten taken to the preverberal cleaners on this engine by my dad's good long time friend,,, 4700 I paid him for the engine and roller cam, push rods, lifters and carb that I don't want. No intake. Manifold was horrible that came with so scrapping that, oil pickup pump shot, all bearings shot, scored this and gouged that, it's repairable but for a lot of dough, should I just start over with a 502 big block or bore and sleeve the 454 ?
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Engineer the truck will be getting new leaf springs and shocks..... 1-ton,,,,, I know it will be a little issue doing that but if I can mount the Dana 70 axle and get it working right it ought to be a trip with a big block, I would want the Dana 70 over the 14 bolt but that is just my preference for right now.
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I hope this guy didn't knowingly do this to you?
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Honestly minus I think he truly did. He starts cussing me out before I even get the motor paid for in 2 weeks by the way he had 4700 in his hands. And he just started treating me really bad after I bought the roller cam. Knowing the engine would be taken part for that I think he started cussing and treated me like a dog because he has so much fear inside of him on what he knew and knows about what the inside was like and I didn't and he knew I was going to find out and want money back, so I think he treated me like that because he wanted to scare me off and keep me away. But my dad at the same time isn't going anything about it, so basically flushed 5 grand down the toilet for nothing but a bunch of jacked up internals and engine. Lots of thoughts are crossing my mind about him and the whole situation. I'm frustrated , upset, hurt that my money was wasted,,, all of the above. I think it's only right his lies and bologna made right, pay for a new block or fix what I have entirely! But he won't do it I'm sure. He has a real big chip on his shoulder.... I'm stuck up a creek without a paddle in the meanwhile
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If he did....little miss Karma will pay him a visit someday.
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I don't believe in karma really I believe in Jesus Christ and he holds people accountable for their actions but he also loves us so much
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well said
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i would at least talk to him about it. the worst that could happen is him start cursing at you agian
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Yeah some good news and some bad,,,, I've just been going through a rough time in life for awhile now just been feeling down... The block was put in the hot wash and then magnafluxed and was found to have no cracks! And they are painting the block chevy orange. Found out I have a forged crankshaft! And forged pistons but they are 25 years old or so, new though, but check this out the rods are stock ............. :( ? Why on earth would you keep stock rods and go forged on everything else? Doesn't make sense, blocked is being decked, and apparently it is okay on the cylinders wall we don't even have to bore it out any at all. UNBELIEVABLE. The mechanics are shocked. It is literally an act of God and a miracle . I don't care what other people say my Jesus who I believe so strongly in did something to this motor to fix it. Because it's fixed. And I was freaking out and so were the mechanics, after seeing the damage we all knew it was going to need bored out AT LEAST .060" over on the motor to make it useable and even then we were all skeptical. They both can't believe it and I am honestly shocked it is okay and ready for reassembly. It is a ACT OF MY ALMIGHTY God IN HEAVEN that I have been saved by him in life but in this whole engine disaster, minus you would be FLOORED IF YOU WERE HERE AND SAW THE DAMAGE AND THEN GET THE NEWS THAT I RECEIVED. Anywho , side note, my dad's friend I have not spoke to yet, you don't understand this man he is all about himself, and he said I didn't have a forged crank but I have forged rods and pistons,,,, well the truth be told correctly I have a forged crankshaft and forged 25 year old pistons but not forged rods like I was told. Another side note,,, possible ... May trade entire roller cam setup for a bit of a more aggressive cam. ,,,,,,, I will post specs on cam I would LOVE getting some input from anyone. I believe it's .510 duration .527 lift ???? Could be wrong on that.... I think that it's very possible that this is correct......
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Okay so we are align honing, boring , balancing the rotating assembly, arp studding every nut and bolt that matters, connecting rods, mains, the heads, etc to hold everything together,,, we are looking into forged rods if match the rest of the forged bottom end, heads will be swapped for rectangle aluminum heads and getting rid of these..... We are building this engine to produce 750rwhp and and gobs of torque. So everything must be gone through right. What started as a engine swap turned into needing this and that so just going to build it bumper to bumper,,,,, also even though I worked so hard on my frame I've decided to sand blast it and the axles and paint it all over again. Deciding wether to keep or sell the 33's for 35's ,,,, brand new tires with rims.... But I'm thinking bigger heavier tire. I don't want to be buying tire sets a couple times a year, so deciding on that
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If you are using factory Chevrolet connecting rods they are most certainly forged.
In my '77 K30 I have a 454 from a '73 C20. My 454 has the factory pressed pin 3/8" bolt connecting rods.
What are you expecting from your engine? I put ARP studs in my factory Chevrolet rods and have been running them for close to 20 years. My engine was originally built for sled pulling. It makes appoximately 500 hp, and I have no reserve about spinning it 7,000rpm.........on stock rods.
Reality: you only have two factory options on a big block Chevy rod. Either the 3/8, or the 7/16 bolt. The 7/16 only came in L88 427s, and LS6 454s. Some 7/16 rods had floating wrist pins, but all 3/8s were pressed pin. Other than the couple of examples above, every big block Chevy had 3/8 bolt connecting rods just like mine. To put it in other words, there are no bad big block Chevy rods. Only better, and best.
I would bet money I don't have that your rods are FORGED 4140 steel.
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I believe they are stock rods from what them guys are telling me , I didn't know the stock ones are forged.,,, that would be absolutely great if they were.. But they were saying these rods aren't forged, how much hp and tq can the stock rods handle ? We are seriously looking to hit 700 at the wheels
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These are the tires on there as of right now . Hancook Dynapro mud terrains 33x12.50R16. They are new. Thinking of 3 inch lift with 33's or 4 to 4.5" with 35x13.50r16
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Engineer,,, the stock rods can only handle 500 to 550hp right ?
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I would say, based on personal experience stock rods will easily handle 550hp as long as you aren't pushing your engine into detonation.
700hp at the wheels is about 900hp at the crank. That is a lot of radical power for a sub 600ci build.
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Yeah I know I'm asking for alot here.... 700 ponies is not a easy feat.... We will see engineer... I may be in the 600 bracket... I used to drive a 500hp diesel everyday to college , I want something that is very reliable and won't get 3 mpg but will get 8 to 10mpg making 600 on fuel alone. 750 is our ultimate goal , BUT we will see where it all goes as I'm not going to be buying a bunch more parts to make it happen ... I still need some parts for my abused but made new 454. So when looking for parts I need I'm trying to keep cost most definitely in mind but performance as well , not for any other reason am I building it this way other than kinda having too. The damage made to the engine has caused me to sell a ton of things and have to buy parts . What started as an engine swap ready to go has turned into a nightmare... I'm thankful for two things . God first and foremost and family second. God and my family had helped keep me encouraged through this mess... it's been one thing after the other , if I had my own shop and a good physical body it wouldn't be such a huge deal to work on it and get things done but finances are stopping me alltogether right now. We will see what happens. I'm not even going to try to reason with the lier who sold me this engine... What a loser... When funds become available the project will resume... The good old guys that are good honest guys from what I have gathered are trying to help me out with doing things while we wait. The axles are getting installed right now . Looking for some 8 lug American racing old school style rims like the ones I have on there now , I really like them. So looking for 8 lug rims ... I have two right now but they are just for the axle swap ... As far as the engine goes... I've heard of guys doing all sorts of things to get more power, besides the obvious ... Ie. bigger carb, cam, intake, bored out , etc, lets say I don't have the ability to get rid of the old heads I have . What can I do other than port matching and polishing to get the most out of them while maintaining a good balance of reliability ? They will restrict the delivery on fuel and air and I just don't think the stock heads will support a true 700 hp... That's a fairy tale dream , 550 max is more realistic anything after that is like operating a turbo past it's effiency range ... It will just blow hot air... So what do YOU recommend ... I'd like some rectangle heads .... Correct me if I'm wrong here but aluminum rectangle port heads are the way to go....?? These guys doing this already know what they are doing but maybe I can tell them a few tips and tricks while they're at it?! I'm in a hole right now with this motor big time but we are trying to take one step at a time and fix the damage one day at time and while we are doing that we are keeping HP and performance in mind . Since I needed a clutch we went with the heavy heavy duty clutch as opposed to the stock one which is still none the less strong ,,, for a stock engine ,.. Things like that , headers we went with hooker headers 1 7/8" I believe , carb is from one of the mechanics , it's a holley 830 DP that he used on his drag/ street / strip car that has been fully built,.. Stage 3 intake manifold , 1500 to 6500 rating, forged crank, forged pistons, need forged rods, solid roller cam, .527 lift ... May trade cam setup to engine shop for wilder cam, we will see , bored .030" among some other things so we are hoping well I'm hoping that we will reach our goal ... And if we come just a little short that's okay , but we aren't building a normal 454 here since I've had to give up my left arm and both legs to fix the engine right. I'm having to go through alot of trouble to fix my truck so we agreed that we would build with the intent of maximum horsepower for the budget and keep reliability in mind as well , now is this going to be a 200k engine ? Probably not unless God allows it to be. But it will see 100k hopefully. I want to ARP everything , having a hard time finding a full engine kit from ARP for my 454. By the way does anyone need a new 750cfm carb or 10 and a 12 bolt axle ? Just a thought , if you do let me know ill sign up for the classifieds section and post it up there .. Any tips and advice along the way for this project from experienced guys would be much appreciated
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Dana 60 king pin straight axle(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/buveqyba.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/erasu2u6.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/8utumedu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/u9ygyga7.jpg)
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Dana 70 FF rear axle , was a dually rear end, both axles came out of an 80's model chevy truck, Dana 70 axle has the drum brakes guys (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/aquma8ap.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/a3eqaqym.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/3a8ahuma.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/e3ybu6y4.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/seguha9y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/zequheha.jpg)
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So having to modify the rear axle just a bit to make it work but it's practically a dump truck rear end :) haha
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Dually rear end won't work without some fabrication and experience so thank The Lord we have some good guys who know how
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The old edelbrock intake ,,,, (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/umudahav.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/y5edunyd.jpg)
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The old but new Carter Afb 750cfm carb , the intake manifold and carb are not being used as well as these other pic updates(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/yzu5e5am.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/eqe2u9es.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/ytu5uqy6.jpg)
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The timing gear and chain, flat tappet cam, push rods and lifters, springs will not be used either, probable the rockers as well... Possibly,,,,,,,,,,,
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Power steering pump before sanding and painting , still looks this way,, it's nasty and dirty but will get cleaned up really well, rebuilt , and painted, still deciding on chevy orange or gloss black..... What do you guys think?
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I don't have much dough so I'd like to stay simple and not go with an expensive smoke and mirrors power steering pump that looks good but performs equally
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Also the steering gear box needs rebuilt, I painted it already though just primarily because I wanted to (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/epusudy8.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/ryquzyvy.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/sy2u8y4e.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/geruvyhu.jpg)
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Motor mounts for the 305 were sanded and painted, I'll sell these someone will appreciate them lol, I'll have to do the same to the new motor mounts for the 454......(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/nuzuryha.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/8eqy7a7y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/du4a6eda.jpg)
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Brake booster painted but no where complete yet, this will also get over hauled.(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/ajy2ehuq.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/pepuheva.jpg)
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The shocks are blown out and need replacing, i also painted these because the coils are still good but the shock inside is blown. Figured someone might want these too. We are going to lift the truck with a suspension lift to clear the tires properly , 3 to 4.5" lift , deciding on height,,,(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/yvebamug.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/ade3a2ub.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/qa2azyzy.jpg)
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Truck before restoration, with just 33x12.50r16(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/7u6etuje.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/uratydaq.jpg)
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Trucks original craigslist post :) (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/mu2abaze.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/8etaneqa.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/5yte8avu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/ate9u2ut.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/zynabaru.jpg)
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First pictures the first day I saw and also bought the truck :)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/egesenav.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/neqydyze.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/yhe8u3yz.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/tegabe3y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/nare6epa.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/2yqu6yve.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/y4a4yreh.jpg)
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The body was in great shape picking it up but man does it need a lot of love. After 3 days of buffing and moaning and groaning THIS is the beginning result of what it will look like in the end :)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/7upu9ejy.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/8a3e5usu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/3arajury.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/7ege5eme.jpg)
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My poor 454 that was a lie gone bad,,,, (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/na6yre9u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/a2uru9y5.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/ame8y7a2.jpg)that's being turned into a awesome engine
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The "dog house" will be getting polished and cleaned up more, sanded primered and painted on the inside gloss black. And two holes patched (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/a9uvyjaj.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/ne4y6enu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/y2apepu4.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/vume6a6y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/ena9a6ez.jpg)
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Just a few rusty spots on the inside, unfortunately the cancer ate its way through, time to bust out the white blood cells and get rid of the cancer lol
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The bed will be color matched to the rest of the original body and paint, the bottom will be sanded primered and coated , the front of the bed will be a gloss black, the inside will be a rhino liner or nice flat gloss, haven't decided yet. And it will have a clear coat on as well after it's painted , after the front half is 100 percent gone through and polished the bed will be color matched and sprayed
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And yes those are atv tires the bed is sitting on loool, the dog house has thick foam underneath its contact points(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/bavubate.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/2y9ysady.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/a3e2u4e2.jpg)
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This last picture was the truck being hauled off to me for the frame restoration and body work
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This was the truck being delivered safely back into the mechanics hands (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/pyhemy3y.jpg)
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I'm selling these rims because they are 6 lug and I need 8 lug now for the 1 ton axles,,,, trying to find exact rim but 8 lug.... American racing is one of the few that make a rim like this , Mickey Thompson would be the next place to look ,,,, hopefully they will sell soon so I can purchase some 8 lug 1 ton rims that look the exact same
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Additional leaf springs front and rear will be added (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/uguvy3ap.jpg)
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Blown front shocks getting replaced with the same shocks I have in the rear but new ones, new shocks front and rear, gotta wait to order after the new axles are installed with engine, need to get the absolute perfect ride height for the power and tire combo, and that takes planning and decision making , I'm not so great with decision making, I tend to change my mind from one option to the other sometimes on certain things
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Frame was a long bed and was cut to a short bed, find Waldo the cut frame lol , if you look hard you will see it was a long bed shortened to a short bed ,,,,, hmmmm wow a lot of effort and not the greatest craftsman equals a half way job . But I'm making do :)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/du2ysyny.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/4u5umuvu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/e9a9e7as.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/5eje3ype.jpg)
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The driveshaft was sanded and painted as well (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/taha5u3u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/ge3evadu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/rugygyqu.jpg)
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The bumper will be getting sanded and painted too, except the chrome on the outside,,, the mounts will be gloss black or chevy orange I haven't decided yet (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/02/gesevyda.jpg)
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So I am confused about something. The original craigslist ad said "76" and your signature says "78", was the previous owner mistaken ?
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Indeed he was mistaken ,,, now the title says 1978 chevy model 150 body is PK ..... vin is CKL148F316500....... He stated it was a 76 until it was time to pay then he said it was a 78' after looking at the title ... I absolutely love this truck , would be nice if it was a 76 though .. But it being a 78 model truck I'm totally cool with , love the 50's 60's and 70's models and even a few of the 80's models trucks... Ill take a pic of the title just for good purpose....
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Well last night I sold the old intake , camshaft , push rods and lifters, harmonic balancer and timing gear and chain to these two old school guys and they are wanting the carb and my old 454 oval port heads as well... So we will see! Sold all of the above with a flex plate for 140 dollars.. I don't like to nickel and dime people, especially on used parts...... Well guys hopefully the carb and the axles sell soon as well as the heads.! Pray for me if you love Jesus that these extra parts would sell and praise God I sold a few things last ! Parts money for the project ! Whoo hoo! We are working on creating the last parts list which is a massive total. And bringing some of the leftover charges to a total, I got the short end of the stick buying this motor, but through God's help and family and selling things the truck should be finished in its entirety by the end of May !
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by the end of May? Geez, yours will be done before mine and I'm not even doing half of what you are...lol
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Lol yeah by the end of May I'm hoping, parts arrival is a time factor, engine prep work and reassembly takes time, 1- ton axle swap will take a bit to do. Replacing the body bushings and bushings throughout , it's only going to be able to get done that quick because there is two mechanics working on it in their spare time, and God is just allowing things to sell now again so I'm having to raise bits here and there and if it wasn't for God allowing my trailer and other plethora of stuff to sell there's no way I'd even be half way as far along as I am. So God is helping out big time in all of this. And because there is so much damage to the engine and parts new mixed with old , and my dad's friend taking me to the cleaners on the motor. They are agreeing to help me finish the truck. Old parts will be sold off like the axles, heads, carb , and anything else that I can to help with this. I have been financially broken on this project because of a huge scam and lie from the guy I bought the motor from. And it's costed me more than money, selling off things I've purchased and wanted to really hang onto, and sacrifices... It's now become a serious investment to get things right on this engine, and my folks have talked and agreed to back me 100 percent and help turn around the wrong doing into a right and get this truck rebuilt the right way. I would of been done already if the engine was everything the guy said it was. Axles brakes steering suspension body etc would of been done if the engine hadn't of been maliciously jacked up inside. Well minus please do keep in mind I sold off several thousand dollars worth of things to get where I'm at right now after buying the motor... Soooo glad that I didn't have the guys friend put the engine in,,,, jeez that would of been instant disaster on startup,,,,, we are pushing hard for end of May ,,,, if I could work with them while they do the engine and suspension brakes etc it would go a little bit faster but not too much , these guys are like my dad's age, I'm 26 nearly and haven't messed with too many big blocks or Chevys but from more experienced with diesels,, so it's a big learning curve for me, after the accident I lost more than just my edge in life lol, but I'm getting my feet wet again in this stuff, just because I'm disabled doesn't mean this is a build this for me truck you know? I've put a lot of time into the truck myself and my wife helped me on the frame big time after she started liking ( love at first site for her ) my truck she wanted to help and has had fun but she works quite a lot and just doesn't have the time so between he mechanics and myself it's a group effort to get things done and it takes a stinkin DEEP wallet ( in my mind ) to get this truck done, my folks helped out 40 percent on buying the engine, and myself the rest. The truck I bought , but not just I got screwged but my folks as well so they are also beside themselves and want to see it made right by fixing or replacing what's needs to be,,,, because this is going to be the last truck I build like this,,,, I'll take my days if I have them in the future by building a mud truck , 4 wheeling high horsepower tow behind this truck kind of truck,,, but this is also my only driver, and I'm the man of this family and I can't have my truck down for a year or two while I try to fix it, I have got to have a good solid reliable know how to fix it when it breaks truck,, It's taken already almost 2 months,,, my diesel truck build took me like 6 months or 7 .... That was a long build and a ton of work , I wish I hadn't of sold that truck,but this truck I'm keeping,,,, and with how much I've had to sell and sacrifice , it's only right that it's made right and built to the hilts to last, it's going to cost several thousand more before it's done , and my folks are going to assist me finishing the truck in its entirety, but I will owe them every last dime and dollar that's put into the truck, that's just FINE with me, that's thee key factor in getting the truck done is the 3k additional parts list and paying for labor still..... This is a blood sweat and tears build lol seriously,,,,, anywho I think I went off topic just a bit lol
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When is yours going to be finished minus ?
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I'm not really sure? like I said just waiting on the weather is the big part. Right now it looks like next weekend is going to be nice enough to do the frame. Then again this is Northern Indiana and the weather changes every minute is seems like. I would think things would move along nicely after the frame is ready? I would guess that the wiring and final tweaks will take some time? I have no idea really as this is my first time doing anything like this. :o This will be stage one of the build and with any luck next spring I can start stage two....As long as the soon to be wife says it's ok...LOL
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Hmmm alright,,, yeah weather is a pure pain in the butt sometimes getting work around it,,, well if the weather warms up you should be out there first thing in the morning and coat everything and hopefully it will dry... I would go out there as soon as I could when the weather is nice,,,, well you've gotten a really good start so far and are coming along that's for sure,,,, after your frame is painted the wiring really won't take too long,,,,,, this ought to blow by for you once the frame is coated ,,,,, install motor , reroute the wires, make sure they won't get pinched or crushed once the dog house , cab and bed is put back on , since it's a firewood hauling truck are yo going to install small bright lights on the rear? And for having no idea you say what your doing I think you sure are doing a great job man
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I never saw the rotating assembly and underneath of the motor, it's a 2 bolt main,,,, not a 4 bolt like he told me, the guy who sold me the engine, I seriously feel ill right now,,,,,,,,,,, I feel like I'm gona puke
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Guys you know where I can get some good rectangle port heads without breaking the bank?
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New, define breaking the bank. BBC stuff isn't cheap, and rectangle ports are overkill for anything short of all out drag motor.
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that is looking great! You have put a lot of work in on that frame.
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do you have the paint code sticker for your truck? Mine is the same burnt orange color and i want to repaint it but am missing the sticker.
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Looool ,,,, no doubt ,,, new heads will break the bank,,,, ie under 2 grand,,, I may end up getting the iron rectangle port heads, my heads will need a GRAND worth of parts and labor to get these old irons to par with what we are doing, and it to my opinion will be worth the money getting new iron rectangle ports over the oval ports and really open this 454 up ,,,,,,,while we do the old saying out with old and broken and in with the new fixes the cracks and leaks ,,,,, my valuables have been sold off to keep this project going, I got so screwed over from the guy I bought it from it's not even funny, it's not even a 4 bolt main it's a two bolt main, for everyone who doesn't know what that truly means, it means 4 bolts as opposed to 2 on the main caps that hold the crankshaft in place while those huge pistons are going up and down with all that heavy metal to go with,,, so my 2 bolt main engine won't hold like a 4 bolt will unless I give it ALOT of love, even then it won't hold up to a fully built 4 bolt, it's a built 2 bolt now so it should hold 900hp at the crank.... We know we will make 600 to the wheels but are pushing for high 600's , bottom 700's. And she won't hold this without some love and attention from ARP fasteners and studs. So this engine is getting a redo on it's holding strength and anything that has importance to it is getting ARP studs and bolts top to bottom to make up for the loss of strength, plus the old engine bolts top to bottom truly needed to be replaced. They are old and some stretched. So every nut and bolt except WILL be stronger and torqued to specifications for the load each and every bolt and stud will require. So we are blue printing the entire engine. The bottom rotating assemble has been fully balanced to minimize the unevenness and extra vibrations for a smooth rock solid pulling running beast of an engine that will roast 44's on pavement all day long without breaking a sweat. That's the engine we are building here guys, I got taken to the cleaners on this motor in its entirety , 4700 dollars for a big royal shaft where the sun just doesn't shine. So that being said. There was so much work to do and investments definitely pay off but they do not last forever,,, that also being said I have put more into this truck from the beggining than I ever imagined, SOOO .... This engine needed and needs a lot of love and attention and I'm giving 110 percent to build it to the T and and rebuild every last stinking piece on this truck until I'm satisfied I got taken to the cleaners and drowned in a river with this motor and I have turning it into a working breathing powerhouse of an engine. And I can't live with how bad he screwed me on this engine without going through it tossing the broken and not usable or barely useable and cleaning house on this engine and going through it fine tooth and comb on the truck. That's the only way I will be able to have fun with this truck and feel good about giving a total friend who is a scam artist 4700 for what I should of only paid 1100........ I feel sick to my stomach on this truck sometimes when I think about the dollar signs.... But when it's done it WILL clip almost 700hp at the wheels and will be fully built to the hilt bumper to bumper and all the broken and blown this and that will be replaced, and my heads need a grand of work done to them to get them new and rebuilt , port matched, honed out, polished , cleaned, hot tanked, replace valves and springs , roller rocker arms, better for me to just spend the 1800 on new heads and be done with it and have some High performance iron rectangle port fire breathing heads,,,, the whole engine was a nightmare , and I'm turning it into a solid engine that's been built,,,,, to hold power ,,,,,make power,,, and be reliable as humanly possible with the makeover on this lie of a motor that started... I've looked into heads they are 1500 to 2 grand for performance heads.... 1500 and under it's not worth the money they don't have the performance gain and upgrades we are looking for, 1500 to 2000 is right where the performance only headers are priced at, and I'm not spending a grand to fix my old worn out heads when I could have high performance new iron rectangle port heads for 800 more,,, if I sell my old heads say 500 bucks including the springs and valves.... It will be 1300 for the new heads, so not a huge set back as opposed to 1800,,,,, plus I'm selling the 10 and 12 bolt axles still. It will be a true 1 ton axle and suspension setup backed by a high horsepower big block 454 when it's done ,,, so much work is going into this.... Lonnnnnng story short,,, I just can't live with "smoke and mirrors " inside the engine ,,,,,, everything is getting overhauled or replaced because of all the damage it just wasn't worth our time and money to fix some things it was better just to buy new parts,,,,performance rectangle port heads up here in colorado at elevation ought be breathing well compared to what the stock oval port heads would ever do here at 8,000 feet at the house... I want to take it down to sea level a year or two after it's built and throw 800 plus on the dyno and go home lol.... I built my 98.5 cummins 24 valve , 576 rwhp , 1158 tq,,,,, 58 pounds of boost at sea level in overdrive .. 47 pounds of boost in every gear except overdrive.... The dyno could only load the engine to 42 pounds of boost,,, made 440 rwhp and 816 torque , we did the math on the 58 pounds of boost in overdrive when it cruised the highways,,,, 25 hp shy of 600 at the wheels, she would throw sideways at 40mph on 115 degree concrete in Phoenix Arizona ,,,,, with 35's....... I have 33's on this truck,,, and will make more hp than the diesel and will make about the same torque because of the manual transmission. This truck will not be some trailer queen or a drag built truck, it's being built as a daily driver 1 ton old school big block classic truck, not the truck that's built garaged and driven twice a year... This is my daily driver and what better way to enjoy what started as a nightmare and all kinds of lies,,,,,,,,,, by rebuilding from the ground up. And start fresh ? Could you imagine your dad's friend taking you for 5000 dollars on a lie of an engine ? You would do two things ,,,,, one I won't mention, and the other option you have is you would rebuild it bigger badder and stronger than it ever was. ,,,,, right ??? I don't know who would just button it back together and feel good about it, someone who doesn't care or know engines .... I'm no expert but I'm not green behind the ears either ,,,, this engine is getting a make over.... This old hot rod truck is getting rebuilt and restored, not to original factory condition but to a condition where I can take it to classic truck shows and have fun with it and feel good that what once started as worst nightmare ever for anything I've bought and turned out into a beautiful daily driving big block truck that not only has the engine redone but everything that goes with the truck as well..... Trust me I wanted to trash one of his hot rods he has for screwing me over on the motor,,,, but good ole judge Judy would have a fit if I did that , so instead I pray God judges him and one of his super expensive motors blow up on him :-) that's fair to me, an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth,,,,,,,,,,, a engine for an engine :-) loool
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Here are some heads I'm looking at deciding between with their specifications ,,,,,(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/06/hyje2ury.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/06/ejyvyqar.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/06/jy2yhyry.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/06/gyqy9ube.jpg)
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I'm leaning towards the Merlin iron rectangle port heads ,,,,,, any input or past use or knowledge about these heads specifically would be appreciated
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Capnkaos the big response is not just geared towards you do know that haha ")
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Thanks cvbear I appreciate it !!! It has been a lot of work that's for sure!
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Sprinkler-man that's awesome I will get that code for you here in the next week I'd say ..... I'd be happy to get that for sure..... My phone is turned off and I can't call anyone or else I'd give the mechanics a call and ask what the number I.D is ..... No worries I'm reprinting the bed of the truck to match I'll be sure to post that info for you!
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RHS pro action iron rectangle port 320cc is really preferred ,,,, that or the world products Merlin heads, but I'm honestly leaning on the RHS pro heads ,,,, we will see what ends up on the 454!
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Or the massive 360cc RHS pro iron rectangle ports...............
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Either way it will be much better than what I have and trying to salvage it....sell my heads and buy some new heads ,,,, that's the plan...
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Go rectangle port while I'm at it,,, get rid of the oval port heads
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Meanwhile inside the cab there is a good amount of rip and bounce in the seat so I like the bounce a little but it's a little too much so I want to do something about that,,, steering wheel is pretty sweet I really like the wheel,,, the inside of the cab was really dirty and I cleaned it up a lot .... Still a lot of work to do,, the door pads on the inside are white but old looking not too horrible though now the blue handles.... Yeah those gotta go,,,, brown or black to be added,,, may try to color match it to the paint, someone must carry that color door handle pad ,.., not sure the exact name for the pad... The np205 transfer case just needs some fluid in it.. The interior cab dome light is there but no bulb and not sure if it works,,, we will check and or repair that,,, the dash pad is old and really dry rotted and I'd truly like to get a new dash pad in the coming months.... There will be no smoking in the truck even though I'm a smoker so I will be hiding the cigarette lighter somewhere behind the seats... Inside cab will have safety features to prevent engine being started with a key or screwdriver,,,, rear view mirror rattled with the 305 I can't imagine it staying on with 454, so I'll have to put a shock absorbing epoxy on the backside of the mirror mount on the window side to help prevent that so I can see in my rear view mirror,,,both windows are hard for me to roll up , I'm sure you guys physically able are alright but jeez these things are near impossible for me to roll up past the hallway point ,,, i don't roll them don't because I really tweets and hurts my already hurting back when I try it roll either one up,,, so I'm replacing the mechanism and hitting the moving parts with grease or wd-40 to keep a smooth easy action on the handle where our 7 year son can roll them up when he rides in the truck.. Or anyone else for that matter, the goal is because I'm disabled and much weaker than I used to be I have got to have a window that a young boy could roll up without too much effort at all,,,, and that will be a little finessing but I think it's very doable and not far out idea at all..... The passengers side of the seat when Travis our only son rides in it ( he's 7 ) and a good boy ,,, his head hits the back of the window and side of the truck cab ... And I have got to get this fixed , Colorado roads can be good and really bad. There's a lot of that here in colorado. The body mounts on the cab need replacing . They are dry rotted and cracked through..... The blanket in there I would like to return to the original owner and put a confederate flag blanket over the bottom part of the seat where the blanket covers now... New clutch linkage from the cab inside to the bell housing of the tranny needs rebuilt through and through... I won't buy new pedals but I will get new rubber for the pedals and paint the pedals.... I don't need my foot slipping on the clutch pedal or the brake or even the gas pedal for that matter so "naturally" sticky rubber compound material pedal pads will be added. Sorry I'm not a pro on lingo... The old mats will be tossed for new floor mats that are simple and have the chevy logo in orange and that says chevy above or below it... I cleaned inside the cab as best I could really with what I had to work with... And I think it looks really different and clean inside.... I was kinda shocked how well the inside cleaned up after lots of love to it.. I cleaned inside the door jams and inside the hinges and I will get some real cheap odd shaped tools so I can clean further inside the doors... The glass is pretty good around the truck it doesn't need replacing thank The Lord it doesn't need replacing. Glass is expensive , and one new piece would make the rest look off.... Since we are taking about the cab , I will mention the hood, it doesn't seat perfectly flush .. In a few of the pictures I have posted you can tell the hood was all the way shut and it didn't quite seat flush and it others you see extra space by a margin in the hood. It's just when it's all the way shut it sticks out 3/8" in the back and I would like to get it seated flush so I'll be working on that as well, hood needs buffed and waxed until the 4th of July pretty much lol but I think I'll be able to get it to look like the front half. The right side is more polished than the left side of the cab so I have quite a bit of work ahead to get it all one even looking coat of burnt orange paint.... But it'll come soon.... The radio is non existing in this truck , and if there are any members who know where I can get a FACTORY radio without paying too much please let me know,,, I'm not putting a killer sound system in this truck it doesn't need it that would be dumb I think,,, I just want factory speakers and radio that's it, just some tunes for when the engine is off because I honestly don't think I will be able to hear it over the motor lol....
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I am trying to iCloud my pictures but I have so many on my phone that it won't even let me delete pictures ,,,, I think it's so full it just doesn't have the capacity to add and delete anything ... My phone is acting weird
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Still needs cleaning this was after a little tlc
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I have to polish the rest of the body and the cab to look like this ,,,,, equals to week and a half maybe two weeks or more of morning til night buffing and waxing ....
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The body is in great shape on the inside as it looks on the outside... After I got my hands on the truck I cleaned it up
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I still must sand and paint the inside of "dog house " as well as front grill .... And hood mounts too...
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Here's the steering wheel I was talking about earlier (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/07/yvuzuquq.jpg)
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And here's what the ad made it look like (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/07/uru6e8u5.jpg) Lool
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Sorry the top pic of the steering wheel is dark ,,, more inside pics to come
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These are the heads I'm ordering for the 454 :-) World products , Merlin cast iron rectangle port heads, 345 cc intake runner volume/ 119cc combustion chamber volume, assembled with valves and springs already (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/09/hape3asa.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/09/yruza5a5.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/09/susenugy.jpg)
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I don't know what any of that means but it sure sounds cool..... 8)
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Thanks Minus I appreciate it !! ;D. I'm hoping for pure awesomeness when it's done,,,,, ohhh and update ,,,, it won't be done by the end of May due to parts arrivals,,, and finances....I still need several thousand more...for all the suspension, brakes, steering, and all under the hood parts and engine parts ....labor ,,,, but it will be done by the middle of the summer.... I'm ordering the heads and forged rods this round,,,, and that in just those two items is really expensive ....I'll put up a parts list with prices and product numbers at the very end of the build.... Do you know anyone who works for summit racing ? Loool I often imagine the clip off the movie fast and furious where they have that red F-150 2wd loaded down strapped past the cab haha FULL OF PARTS!!!! Lool this almost feels the same way just in stages ,,,, Minus I'll be so thankful and GLAD when it's done ! How is yours coming along buddy ??!
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Can't wait to see the finished product
I was unable to locate the frame tabs/brackets from the local salvage yards that I need. Our sister company is a fabrication shop so I was able to source some material to weld up the tabs. Last night I measured everything up and cut what I needed. After work today I'll stick around and mill the thru holes. Tonight they get welded on and smoothed out then tomorrow I should finally be able to finish the frame. I'll get some pics posted up before and after I finish the frame.
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Yeah no doubt me neither ,,,, okay so the heads ,,,,,,will be the exact same ,,,,,everything except the bigger 345cc intake runner volume ',,,,,,,,,decided on 320cc intake runner volume... Instead of 345cc, to keep the engine air flow speed up and that whirlwind effect ,,,, sweet man you should post up some pics when your done fabricating ! Interested to see it when it's done !
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Here's the block back from the machine shop and ready to be assembled ,,,, FINALLY,,,, !!! the block was painted chevy orange after being hot tanked and magnafluxed and fixed up , new bearings were installed as well! (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/11/u7apa3ur.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/11/uvedasep.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/11/2edygu2u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/11/hydesuga.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/11/hanagyge.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/11/2y3eru5u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/11/2agu7yje.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/11/panasu6a.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/11/umyjapur.jpg)
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There's splatter marks and oil droplets inside the cylinder wall from wd40 and on the outside of it to keep it from rusting.....
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Rotating assembly is waiting on the forged rods to come so we can have it all balanced by the same shop who did the block....
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Here are the hooker Comp headers :-) they are oval port so we may need to send them back once the new heads arrive and return and swap it out for the new rectangle port heads we will see when the heads arrive , I'm having a feeling we might have to but still these are 1 7/8" inside hole diameter if I'm correct ,,,, should produce some good power and torque with these headers and from these headers ,,,, (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/11/du3e5ava.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/11/uga7y4u9.jpg)
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3.5" on the flange I believe and 1 7/8" on the exhaust ports for the hooker headers
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Could be 3 " I will have to look it up
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The headers are at the shop along with everything else pretty much
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It is 1.75" on the main tube diameter and 3" on the collector not 3.5" like I had guessed earlier sorry about that
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Nice progress.
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Thanks Bake
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Update on parts order and status
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Here is the list for the engine that I need still to put it all back together built chevy reliable and tough :-) and these parts should arrive all by the end of May or earlier ,,, I will update you as they come in, the heads will be here last unfortunately as they say May 30 for the ship date .... This parts list doesn't include spark plugs and wires and the new carb, air filter, oil for the truck, coolant, gear lubricant, power steering , brake fluid, tranny fluid and t-case fluid, heater core, stock radio, new wires, possible new speakers ( not a built sound system just a factory respectable near stock speaker and radio system , radiator , leaf springs, brakes and shocks that I still need along with the steering gear box rebuilt, and bushings all the way around replaced , still need new steering stabilizer shock as well...foot pedals (rubber pads), a few things from MSD ignition products, new valve covers ,, or sand and paint the old ones,,, which I think I will do .... Just strip the old paint , scuff and sand them a bit and primer and paint it chevy orange again ....
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These are the heads specs
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Just so everyone knows I had 345cc on the intake runner volume and switched to 320cc to keep the speed of the air up and the turbulence still there
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The bearings on the engine are being filed to match the new parts perfectly, mains, cam , rod bearings will be the test subjects haha ! they will be filed and smoothed and fitted like a ball and glove kind of fit and as smooth as a baby's butt lol
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Extra updates being done due to a blizzard in the middle of May.................. ??? And today is still snowing here
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Update on the truck real quick ,,, just so everyone can know ,,, it WAS a 305ci HEAVY half ton 4x4 shortbed that was a long bed previously ,,, manual sm465 tranny with np205 transfer case is being kept. The old heavy half ton setup is being swapped out for a 1 ton suspension, the new 1 ton axles are a big nasty heavy Dana 60 kingpin front axle ( disc brakes ) and a Dana 70 rear axle, both are solid straight axles and will have 488's or 456 gears,,,,,the little but tried and true 305 was nicely and neatly pulled out and sold. With a bored out built 454 big block being swapped in the 305's stead,,, it will more than do some power providing ,,, building this engine to be a modified streetable daily driver....... with frame brakes and suspension getting a full make over and or rebuilt as well as the cab getting interior love attention and affection and freshened up a bit and bed getting painted to match the front of the truck, this in short, my chevy brothers , is what I'm doing to this K10 shortbed 4x4, the last truck I build , and drive..... I may restore a truck next year or build a beater mud truck... This will be the the 2nd to the last build I do.... I truly think so besides a built mud truck or restored stepside classic ....
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Side note to post above ,,,, Dana 70 Rear Axle has DRUM and not disc brakes just to clarify
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More specs and info to come
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I'll post the entire story on buying the chevy truck at the very end,selling off the old sad 89 f250 after buying it for a meanwhile a to b runner after selling my nice paid off 07 Toyota tundra 4x4 to get my family into a house,,,, buying my wife her dodge ram 1500 4x4 and new duratrac tires for both trucks, and selling expensive items too like my paid off 2014 Lark enclosed trailer , thousand dollars sold worth of coolers, had 3 yeti coolers , one cooler was 800 new last year , hunting gear , fishing gear, military 10 man outfitters canvas wall tent made for a wood stove, had a vogelzang iron boxwood stove,,, sold engine parts and truck parts here in colorado to help pay for new parts and labor work from my mechanics and also the high speed machine shop to do their part, so it's costed me more than just dollars and cents here,,,,, I am an OUTDOORSMAN.... And have always kept up on getting more and more gear , from hunting to fishing to camping etc etc I had this trailer of mine PACKED AND ORGANIZED TOP TO BOTTOM full of outdoor gear, I now have a small pile of it left , no trailer,,, hardly any gear , ,,,,, sentimental and expensive new slightly used items of mine, thousand and thousand worth sold off so I can have a awesome rebuilt and built to the hilt chevy 4x4 shortbed,,,, what started as an engine swap turned into a purchased scam of an engine from my parents friend , engine swap turned into a nightmare opening the engine up,,, that turned into sell this and sell that continuing to sell items and just been having a hard time forking over a thousand here, 4 thousand here, another 2000 here, 700 there etc etc ,,, so after selling off everything but the kitchen sink and seriously wanting to take the guy who sold me this engine and send him to meet The Lord ,,,,a few decades earlier than he probably would of,,, after being screwed so bad , just buying the 4700 dollar engine Took a financial toll,,, then add into now me selling off the farm etc to pay for his lies and mistakes about the 454 that was race ready inside etc etc lool,,,,, thoughts of ended lives start really running through your head ,,, so my folks after seeing what I went through and sold etc, they saw I was mentally losing it because of the royal taking me to the cleaners on the engine, my folks decided to step in and help me finish the engine ,,,, my disability is coming up here in a week and I truly am disabled and cannot work, no funds come in to me at any time unless I sell or trade something,,, so this truck build is a HUGE HUGE HUGE DEAL. It's sentimental like no other truck I've ever had, even my diesel that I built by hand myself ,,,, before the accident ,,,,, that produced concrete shreading power and torque,, this truck cost me 600 dollars, a Springfield stainless steel wood grip .45 acp 1911, a brand new unused high point .40 cal glock, and 750 rounds of ammo to go with, all in a pelican case , and ammo in canvas bag,,,,, just for the truck,,, then add the 4700 engine, the 5,500 in ENGINE PARTS, the 3000 in labor between shops, now add selling my sentimental things ,,, now add selling my only truck my 07 tundra to get my family into a house of our own, buy my wife a truck , 2000 worth of new duratrac (8) tires, buy myself a beater ford wanna be get around in the meanwhile truck , not spend a dime on anything but bills, buy a 454 from a friend after sacrificing expensive truck for a home and my family. not having a decent vehicle or truck to drive, now add in just handing a good long time friend 5000 dollars for the engine only,,, and find out it was a total careless put together abused nightmare inside of an engine, and then sell everything you got to pay his mistakes and lies,,,, now I'm in a major bind,,,, add in stress ,,, anger, loss of 5000 dollars period ,,,, puke , feel sick and depressed and all at the same time have a wife and family to look after,,, being in pain all the time, truly be ,disabled , having to sell things and meet with craigslist people to sell off my things that were earned and bought by me and paid for,,, and NOT want to settle the score so to speak,,,and just move on ?? Do you guys know how hard that is,,,,,, try putting yourself in those shoes for a minute,,,, I couldn't help but take the much needed assistance from my folks,,, so before anyone reads and thinks its a mommy and daddy wallet build,,,, make sure to read the fine details,,, this is a sacrifice everything you have and then some build,,,, a blood sweat and tears build,,, literally,,,, I've worked really hard on this truck,,, I'm disabled and can't do what most can , I'm mentally slower than most and was physically broken throughout my body from previous accidents but a car accident took my life in a different unworkable un normal path,,, I had therapy for years , and have taken more pain pills than what Walgreens has in stock... I have a hard enough time as it is sleeping ,,,2 to 3 hours a night, and functioning as a human being on my day to day... So this truck has added a whole new mixer of emotions and things... Who wouldn't feel the way I'm feeling,,,,, so that's why I decided to build it and fix it right and go through it the way I am, hope you guys viewing it like the project,,,
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I've forgotten much about the bad start and just focusing and enjoying the entire process now
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If this truck had a twin brother with a big block in it...then my truck will be a contestant.... My goal through this project is to maintain the idea and similarities of this truck and it's looks, stance, color etc,, except the engine that's in it... This truck is a really nice truck in my opinion,,, minus the speaker system..... After getting taken on the engine ,,, I decided to fix and build it right and reliable and of course Tim Allen style grunting power under the hood :-) and in the meanwhile fix rebuild repaint, swap out , etc everything else in the meanwhile.... After selling everything I had and what I've got and having my folks who are the best parents I could ever ask for helping me out on this build because of the nightmare the engine was,,,,, the only thing I would be happy with was a 600 to the wheels monster with the suspension to back it up and everything else gone through and rebuilt,,, SOOO much has been sacrificed and sold off to keep this thing going... I've given a ton a ton a ton thousands myself, and so has my folks,,,,,,,,,,,,,, so MAJOR CREDIT to them,,,,,,,,, or else this truck would be half of what it is,,, literally ,,,, so BIG THANKS for helping turn this around...
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Here's the truck and some specs ,,, that I was talking about in the two sentences in the post above(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/mavujyqa.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/4a3a2a4y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/sy5ujy6e.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/edugy7uh.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/zavu3uta.jpg)
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Truck looks pretty solid ,,,
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And minus the sound system
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Just for info this is what the truck looks like inside though (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/muhyzuse.jpg)
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I do like the silver gauges but not the steering wheel or interior so much , the interior is nice that's for sure,,, wish it was black or white or a combo of both inside with orange painted on the metal throughout the inside of the cab ,,, I think that look would be like the icing on the cake
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My truck will have 33's and a 4" lift TOPS ,, REALLY SHOOTING FOR 3.5" added suspension lift,, the truck above has a 6" rancho lift with 35x12.50R15, , Mickey Thompson Baja claw tires, , I have Hancook Dynapro 33x12.50r16 mud terrains... Would love 35's only because of the power of the engine and size/weight of the 1 ton axles
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Side note on something I'm still trying to find and purchase,,,,,,My blue door trim handle piece is so coming off and a black one getting installed, sucker sticks out like a sore thumb doesn't it? (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/13/jy9ury2u.jpg)
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Bake ,,, love the dual x pipe exhaust you guys have online, is it available in 3" ? Also looking for a good clean crisp rumble, I was looking at the flowmaster 50 and 60 series mufflers, how would this exhaust compare ? What are it's specifications ? I'm really interested in it, I still need quite a bit of different odds and ends parts and an exhaust happens to be a main one, here in the next 40 days I'll be needing one!
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Check out this awesome looking dual x pipe exhaust with mufflers from 73-87chevytrucks.com(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/14/pabajeva.jpg)
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Well I just got done talking to a guy who owns his own sandblasting business, and he is going to meet me at the shop tomorrow early afternoon to check out the 1 ton axles he will be blasting and the entire frame of the truck as well. Even though I sanded polished and painted it, I'm going to have the cab removed and the frame sandblasted professionally as well as the axles, then primer and coat and paint it real good and sharp looking, plus every last spec of rust will be entirely gone after the sandblasting, which is totally awesome.
Here in about an hour or so I'm going to leave from the mountains into the city to meet this man that's interested in my iron oval port heads, roller cam, roller rockers and the carter 750cfm carb, so hopefully he buys all of it! So I can keep this project moving along ! I will post up what happened today with selling the old stuff, and I will also post tomorrow after meeting with the guy who will be sandblasting the truck. Hopefully it's all for a good price :-) found him on craigslist !
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Here are some more pics of the block this time on the engine stand :-) ... And old heads,,, old rods, but keeping the new flat top pistons that are forged with valve reliefs, also SOLD my old carb today! And the same man who bought the carb, I am trading my old rods for a nice oil pan that is bigger than this one, and it holds quite a bit more oil. It's supposedly really nice from what he is saying so this upcoming week I will trade him for that new oil pan, it's a truck factory gm oil pan from what he was saying and this oil pan is a passenger car oil pan because the motor is a high perf passenger big block 454 and we need a oil pan that will fit underneath there... And this one will bolt right up to the new block. He also has an oversized radiator and two electric fans that I will be buying from him! And at a good price so that's great that I met this guy it's definitely a God thing and I'm able to trade parts for parts I need and that's just the icing on the cake right there for me. That helps out so much. Parts should be arriving soon with the heads arriving last unfortunately but that's ok! I wanted to post some new pics on things as is long overdue !
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/9u8uge6u.jpg)thought the first pics looked a little grainy
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Bag of goodies :-) (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/ezejagah.jpg)
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Here are the old valve covers that will be stripped and repainted.... If they fit the new heads which I think they won't .,,...(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/u6u8ame9.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/e6ymupyb.jpg)
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Okay some inside/outside cab pics that I haven't posted up yet, rust on rocker panels will be repaired as it is eating away for sure ,,, I will clean and detail the interior and order a dash pad from our website and get a few trim items like the hideous blue door handles taken off and new swapped in (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/yzyzuqub.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/a4y5u2ar.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/utyqa9u6.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/8enava2u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/sysyzyja.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/9uzyhyhu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/u3u4ypa3.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/mude4a9a.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/byna8u3y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/8a9y9ute.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/py4a3a6e.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/3amararu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/4azapy9u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/9ypa7a9y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/ebybeduq.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/y2azupu4.jpg)
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The old floor mats will be tossed and new chevy mats added as it's needed
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Underneath the cab I still need to strip off the old paint , and rust ( remove cab ) sandblast , clean , and paint the sm465 and the np205 transfer case a nice copper color same color as the truck and make it a nice two tone copper and black combo, or orange and black.... Still deciding on that. frame will get sandblasted and painted with good paint this time around and not rustoleum paint cans even though I layered the heck out of it with primer and gloss black , I am not fully satisfied with how i still need the middle section stripped coated and painted , so it's all getting sandblasted . everything we can blast will be. while the blaster has his equipment at the shop we are building the truck at. I will go out and get some good paint/ products and go to it and just paint everything myself to save costs.... (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/gahuseme.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/ydejedyj.jpg)
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This Dana 70 will get new seals and bearings throughout, sandblasted and painted hopefully will be flat out awesome, like this axle this guy painted. Quite an impressive job he did. Looking for same results but different color (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/degu5yse.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/9adajynu.jpg)
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And new hardware and brake pads as well for the Dana 70
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Hopefully we can just turn the drums on the lathe and save me from having to buy new drums
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Powder for powder coating everything will be ordered from prismatic powders.com they have quite a large selection and it's great looking stuff.. Really love this copper color on the first pic, the 2nd pic is a little different but both look sweet I think ... I think I will use this color as a main color and offset it with a nice gloss black perhaps.(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/6y6uge6u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/15/y2ena4e5.jpg)
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that burnt orange/copper is SICK!!
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You know I think everything except the frame will be powder coated ,,, the frame will be sand blasted and painted nice though. Powder coating the frame would be lavishly expensive
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Yeah you think so minus ?! Thanks bro !! I want to paint the entire frame this color lol seriously it's that gorgeous haha,,,, the tranny and transfer case will be painted this color I think it looks so good man lol, and I will paint the same colors on the axles too. I'm thinking though a gloss black for the frame ?
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I've changed my mind so much on this build, I'm not going with these merlin heads for a couple reasons..... I can wait and put heads on later,,,,, port these heads and also do some old school hot rodding tricks to these heads to get more flow and power, coupled with the new cam and intake it should really be forcing in air big time,,,,, saves lots of money, opens up more room for parts,,, so instead of going with sealed power gasket set I'm going with a metal gasket set for the top of the motor... To keep things sealed well and holding those pressures... Well the stock heads should do just fine after they are fixed and cleaned up real good and have been tricked I think they will do just fine for awhile, later down the road I probably will change them at some point to gain extra hp and tq and hit that 700 plus marker all day long, but if think for now, 600 is enough... I have new springs ready for the old heads , and chromoly push rods and lifters from Howard's cams along with a Howard's cam for the valve train, Howard's springs as well, so since the heads aren't being ordered it opens up a lot of room and space for progress on the truck , extra parts and other things. Should see a lot of progress this week, and even more the following two weeks,,, it should all come together here soon ,,,,
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Well I just confirmed the order on summit racing it ships tomorrow and should arrive Tuesday Wednesday next week! Today I'm heading down to the shop to meet a guy with a slightly used radiator with two electric fans that he has for sale, same guy that bought my engine parts and then my carb, he has a nice new oil pan for me that he is also bringing by today! And I'm also finally going to pay my mechanic for his Holley 830 double pumper today! We are going to do some head work this evening. The heads will be worked over throughout .... Axles are getting taken apart and the 1 ton axles installed ASAP status... Still searching for new rims,,, and still trying to sell my old rims so I can buy new ones so until that happens the chevy will be on some jack stands waiting for new wheels. I need 8 lug American racing Baja 16" wheels :-) 137 a piece, still trying to search for a better price.... Also ordered some Taylor cable spark plug wires as well. 409 race fit wires. Color , red,,, and a half pint of ARP assembly lubricant. Arp products totaled $487.03 for the engine, assembly lubricant was 19.42 for a half pint alone from ARP. not to mention the other assembly lubricant for other parts and fluids/grease etc from bumper to bumper. That in itself is going to be a pretty penny... Still searching for a good performing dual exhaust setup. ..... Also still needing bushings shocks and brakes all the way around. Brakes are 140 for front and rear with hardware kit. Should be picking that up soon . And also should be machining the rotors and drums on the lathe soon to get ready for the new brake pads and hardware. Leaf springs are still trying to be sourced as well as shocks. Still a lot of determining to do on the shocks, ie, brand, length, travel, and it's quality to it as well as ride and drivability. Good shocks coupled with added leaf springs and a new steering stabilizer shock with having the steering rebuilt should make for a better smoother on the road driving experience. Axles will get sandblasted very shortly ,,, truck frame under cab will be restored and brought to a finish like the rest of the frame, the interior will be getting some love soon too... So I'll be posting up quite a bit from here on out as far as progress goes on this project fix and build.
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Okay so all the parts arrived from summit and rough country ( ordered a custom 4" 1 ton suspension lift with springs ) . I didn't take pics of the new suspension because it's all in boxes. But did an inventory and all checked out, summits order as well... I stopped by tanner 4x4 today and ordered new spring perches. They will be here Monday for the axle swap. Also picked up some heavy duty u bolt top plates for Dana 60 from tanner 4x4 here in the springs. Also stopped by advance auto parts and got fluids for the entire truck, axles, tranny, transfer case, power steering , brake fluid and coolant. And also spark plugs and a Holley air filter with cap. It's a huge filter... Should breathe pretty well with that on there, but check this out. I forgot the engine oil and filter today !!! How does that happen? Associate talked my ear off and I got distracted ....lol so I need engine oil and a oil filter now which isn't a huge deal but still that's not cheap... The oil pan I have holds wayyyyyy more fluid than the old pan which was a passenger car oil pan. Trading my old rods for an oil pan , it's in good shape too, just needs cleaned up... Well with all the parts here now it shouldn't be too long before it's done.... Still need to pay for the rest of the labor and half of the new carb.... Umm oh yeah the drive shafts,,,,, still need to have those redone and strengthened up. New rebuilt custom shaft is 325 a shaft . X2 lol... That's 650 just for driveshafts ... Soooo that will be the LAST thing done on the truck.... Still need brake pads and rotors / drums resurfaced..... There is always something else on the list of things to do and get seems like... I'm trying to wrap this build up as best as I can.....I'll get some pics posted up of the new suspension, mounting plates, perches and fluids soon... Last pic is what the new carb looks like... It's been fully tricked out by the mechanic helping me on this build..Here are the engine parts aside from what we already have at the shop(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/6yvura5e.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/dy2aqeba.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/u7e3ury9.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/dyhuhasa.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/my4utyha.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/a5uhynyb.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/enunyhy7.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/8e8a2u4e.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/eqezajuj.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/jutanu8e.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/9ynavu3u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/qu8y9ahy.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/ena9yvem.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/agy4a4av.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/tagasy2u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/maje6uta.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/3y8uru5u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/yvutuduz.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/e9u5e6ug.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/9e7e9u2a.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/6ujyjezy.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/8aqamezy.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/dyqedu4u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/ebasyqyb.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/agy8abe2.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/py5asydu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/ugupynug.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/qagupave.jpg)
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Here is 2/3 of the engine parts list ......I did not order new heads,,,,, heads will get ALOT of love and attention as they really really need it..
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The last part on this list was world products merlin heads .. 1500 dollars,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ummmm yeah ,,,,, ended up reconsidering and did not end up buying these new iron heads,,,, too many other parts needed ordered
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Everything on the list came in the mail so thank The Lord nothing was missing or broken on arrival .... Here is a pic of the new spring lol the others I didn't take pics of as well as the other engine parts and suspension but no worries I'll post it up for you guys to see(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/ahejubav.jpg)
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Here is the first initial order and some receipts with dates on them just showing the progress, it's been a long expensive journey (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/6etanu8y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/adaqu5um.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/yzu7yrep.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/by6ysyza.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/31/ysuparub.jpg)
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This is minus the new engine parts and suspension order
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:o that is one heck of a pile of parts :o
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Loool yeah it is brother....... Insane.... Hey the front axle the big nasty Dana 60 is INSTALLED NOW,!!! (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/01/be2ydama.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/01/ne8ydedu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/01/3yrysudu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/01/qebysy2a.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/01/qa5a7yna.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/01/epehe5y9.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/01/asu8yme9.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/01/unu2a3u5.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/01/sybahume.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/01/pu4asaqy.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/01/9ababyhe.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/01/rure9yzy.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/01/yqagy2a5.jpg)
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/suspension lift installed as well up front !,,,
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Those springs look small compared to that axle.
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Lool yeah they do... Rough country assured me the springs are 1 ton... The old leaf springs had nothing to them, 2 maybe 3 leafs on each perch ... These are much much stronger and more leafs on each perch by far than before. Hopefully they will do what they are suppose to do ,,,,, that Dana 60 is just insane on how heavy it is... 900lbs I'd say without exaggerating, 700 or so on the Dana 70. A lot of weight in just axles.... High gear ratio though.... SOOO.... After installing the lift up front the entire truck came up like 5.5" or so ... Lift was a 4" lift... DEFINITELY raised it more than 4".... But with the big block it should bring down the front an inch, around that much....
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So I just got done with the dog house !!!!!! I sanded it real good with a mouse sander lol ...... Tedious......... BUT...... It has it's first thick coat of flat black rustoleum on it.... It's not perfect but I think it looks much better than before... Plus all that nasty rust has been taken off and coated over with flat black.... I am considering leaving it flat black........ It looks pretty smashing In my opinion... Not like I had a couple grand laying around to sandblast and professionally paint everything .... But I'm thinking of glossing it too..... Dunno.... Any thoughts guys ?.... What do you think of the flat black ! ? Frame is gloss black... Axles and suspension except shocks will be gloss black... I need about 2 more cans of gloss in addition to the two cans I already have to put the final coat on.. I have two more cans of flat black... But its a little breezy to continue painting... I had a few runs on the paint from the wind and just decided to wipe off the runs and repaint.. Only a few areas... Just tricky painting on the side of a mountain ya know!? I will also be doing the underneath of the bed.... And under the wheel wells on the dog house and bed too.... Truck is coming along a little better now ,,, now that we have more parts to work with.....(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/jy2uhybe.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/a3y8a9a7.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/uhy9u3a2.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/yjeme5up.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/y6yqanem.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/jamyra5a.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/a4ype2en.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/eduvyjus.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/a5ery4an.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/udy5y2aq.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/e8yzy8ap.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/na7uvady.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/ydage8e3.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/dume2a9e.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/yqebepu2.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/yhamy9u9.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/ebu7e4e8.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/7ehutyhu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/02/5aqe7y4a.jpg)
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I didn't take too much pictures of the sanding progress I was just too busy trying to get as much done as possible before the wind and nightfall
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Still have more painting and coats to do on the dog house.... This is the first initial coat
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I cleaned up my valve covers, stripped the paint,,, cleaned them,,, and still have a bit of polishing and cleaning to do on those valve covers and timing cover.... Trying to get it as best as I can.... The OIL PAN was NASTY RUSTY,,,,,, annnnd this is how it looks now ! :) literally brand new oil pan now! Here is a better shot of the axle swap up front too,,,, I'm going to keep the valve covers bare metal and coat them to protect from rust and visible wear, I'm going to polish them as best as I can too with what I have.... I think the bare metal look,, looks pretty sweet,,, so I'm going to stick with that,,,oil pan would be pretty sweet to leave bare after coating it to protect it.... But we will see on that .... Slowly but surely she is coming along,,, I've been putting ALOT of time lately cleaning stripping sanding painting etc.... Well thought it would be done by now BUT that's okay hopefully it will be done in July ? Only God knows that ..... Porting,,,polishing, hogging out the heads,,, Tony is doing that himself,,, finessing and working the heads going WILD on everything we can possibly do to the heads to make power and torque/ better flow and combustion / burn rates,,,, etc..... Well still poking around for some tubing for an exhaust so I can weld it up together and make something sweet out of used piping.....3".......... Also ,,,, Sunday the perches on the Dana 70 will be cut off and new perches welded on... Hopefully in the next 5 days or so the new mammoth rear axle will get muscled under neath the truck and bolted up.... The leaf springs are 2.5" wide.... Would of been really nice to have wider springs and the 56" springs instead of 52" but I think it will do just fine! Honestly lol, the old leafs had like 2,,, maybe 3 leafs to them,,,, TOPS... these have triple the number of the old leafs that were on there.... But if I need to add a leaf I will but thinking and hoping that will not be a need.... I'm looking for u bolt top plates for the Dana 60 straight axle still... Hard to find ,,,, expensive..... SOOO that is a major item on the list,,,, tanner 4x4 gave me the wrong top plates,,, I have to have plates that are 1 ton GM/ Chevrolet top plates,,, stock ones with the side hole mount for the sway bar.... So pray for me that this suspension will be bolted up together completely in its entirety ,,, sooner than later....still need brakes and shoes/ resurface the rotors and drums,,,, also sandblasting the axles still needs done .....it's coming along,,, definitely by far my favorite truck ive ever built,,, I'm just counting down the days until that engine is finally fired up and cackling and snort popping around on the engine stand.... It's nice that I have two old school hot rod mechanics to help me do the build.... I broke my back bad in a bad car accident and it left me crippled/ disabled for the rest of my life?... Took me three years to be able to stand up straight... And 2.5 years to be able to bend over and barely lift myself back up without falling over....I'll never have a recovery and work like normal people but I'm able to do some things on the truck... If it wasn't for my body,,,,,,,,,,,,',, and,,,,,, the lack of a garage,,,,,,,, a massive rolling tool chest, air compressors, grinders etc... I'd be doing ALL of it myself... Like I had my entire life up until this accident when I was 22.... Turning 26 this July.... I've gotten a lot of judgement and flack for not doing everything myself,,,, so keep it mind I'm disabled, no garage, no tool chest anymore,,,, etc..... I'm doing the best I can with what God has given me,,, physically, emotionally, financially........(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/y3eqedeg.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/2urujena.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/a7agazym.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/7equry7a.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/4u8ahy4u.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/jame3uja.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/e8a8a6eq.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/9ygu5u2y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/9urade2y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/je7uta9a.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/umery9ur.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/uga5ypyp.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/07/ga6yryje.jpg)
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I still need to get a complete engine gasket set that is high performance and made for a .030" over 454.......
Just so much fine detail work to do I am just taking one step at a time and trying not to get ahead of myself.... It's not going to be a perfect show quality truck but it will be bumper to bumper restored....
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I just went through you whole build thread and I have to say the attention to detail your putting into this is insane. This looks to be a awesome truck once its finished. 8)
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Haha feel sometimes like I'm writing a book on it,,,,,, I greatly appreciate it, that's pretty gnarly to sit there and go through my whole thread there is quite a bit on the thread to read and look at. I'm glad your liking the build! Not that many people have said much about it... I'm putting all of my heart into it bro trying to refurbish rebuild replace every last thing that needs it... Because the last thing I want is something breaking or constant maintenance to do.... This WILL BE the LAST truck I drive and own.... Until The Lord calls me home someday.... I am an old man trapped in a young Mans body and since this will be the last truck I drive I wanted it the entire truck to be taken apart after the engine damage , completely rebuilt from the ground up and I just decided to go all out with what I can do on it, finances are of course always a concern and set back as to exactly what product I am able to put on it..... Like for example.... The exhaust..... 500 for pipes and mufflers..... Just can't do that with needed brake and axle rebuild parts. Bearings, seals, etc.. Soo the exhaust will be fabbed up by me :-) I'm putting my knowledge to the test lol ! So I'll be copying a x pipe design off the web... And building my own :-) well the truck is about to go into major overtime overhaul in just a bit, you guys won't believe this.... The rods that came in..... Are the WRONG rods.... The TRW flat top pistons will absolutely not work with these rods.... Soooo sending them back and waiting on the correct rods to come in, once that happens this big block will be put together ASAP status .... Hopefully crossing fingers it will be finished in a week after the new rods show... I'll be happy just to sit and watch it run on an engine stand for a couple weeks lol..., I'll make a video of it and post a link or post it here if I can.... Those guys are ready to finally be done and I don't blame them,, I've put a ton of work into the truck myself and I tell you what it has been non stop needing this and needing that , cleaning , detailing , planning , getting parts, putting in foot work, drawing plans out again because of a modification etc.... It's been a trip ..... I just can't wait to finally be shifting gears behind a freight train of a motor lol.... I won't be hot rodding it between lights or anything but just looking forward to cruising with a big block and a new rebuilt truck down the road.... And occasionally open up the secondaries on the Holley :-) Should see a motor done and built soon guys
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Niice build !
A friend of mine was born with no legs
Although he has some artificial ones
He Scoots around on a skateboard most of the time
He says it's a lot faster
He has restored a 68 Galaxie convertible
Doing a lot of the work by himself in a garage that's too small so the back 3 feet of the car hangs out
He has added a built 390 with EFI and overdrive
AC. Etc
When he was born the docs told his parents he'd never walk etc
Not only was he walking he was racing go carts when he was 8 yrs old
Paid his way thru college with a paper route and drove a taxi at night with hand controls
Don't give up and dont listen to anyone who tells you that you can't do something
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Thanks man I appreciate it! That is definitely a encouraging testimony for sure thanks for sharing that man it has helped encourage me a bit :-) restoring that galaxy I bet took a lot off his mind,,,, and probably made him feel like he accomplished a huge feat which is exactly what that is to do that on his condition....
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Awesome news!!! The new rods a arrived this morning !!!!! Whoo hooo!!! Summit racing is such a fantastic company to work with and buy from guys.... This company has just bent over backwards for me, I called them explained my situation on ordering the wrong rods... Spoke with a supervisor ,,, and they overnight shipped me the new correct rods ! Shipped them yesterday and arrived early this morning,,, i paid for the shipping,,, but still... They sent me the new rods without even getting the old incorrect rods back for a return first ,,,,UNBELIEVABLE CUSTOMER SERVICE,,,,, you just can't go anywhere and get that kind of service... It was a God thing that I was able to have this happen....truly... They even sent me a parcel return slip paid for by summit racing,,, what more could I ask for ?! Not only that but the new correct rods were 308.97 and the incorrect bushed rods were 353.99 so I literally got 40 bucks back about leaving me with enough to buy an engine oil filter after shipping the rods!!! Now .....I'm not using laniers speed shop because they are a bunch of jerks....so I'm trying to find a performance machine shop to do the balancing on the rotating assembly.... Soo today's homework is to find a shop to take the engine parts to.... Here are the correct rods...(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/11/a7e5amem.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/11/hugumeju.jpg)
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So tomorrow ,.,, everything will be dropped off at a race shop here in the springs somewhere for balancing......and as soon as we get it back it will get assembled like ASAP status.... Still have the behemoth Dana 70 to install in the rear along with the lift in the rear..... And brakes and bearings to buy as well, along with a engine oil filter, engine oil,,, paid for half the Holley drag street strip carb from Tony the mechanic,,, it's a Holley 830 double pumper that's been fully outfitted and modified... :-) POWER HOUSE of a carb . I'm excited to see a fire breathing big block here soon ! I'm waiting and waiting and it seems like it's going to take FOREVER to FINALLY BE DONE lol.... But I guess the longer I take the more fine of details I can address and fix , upgrade, repair, clean, paint, rebuild etc while I'm waiting on this engine to get built.... Having a bit of issues getting the top plates for the Dana 60 kingpin axle,,, because they are so expensive and just trying to save money by not buying the plates from a dealer..... Side note,,, I want to become a site supporter here soon so pray that 25 dollars will become available for me to do that,,,, love this chevy community .....
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Well today my son and I cleaned up the bed after the sanding progress to get through decades of dirt and grime,,, just a little sanding work, prep work, and cleaning to do before it's first coat of paint is applied to it... Lots of nooks and crannies to clean.... My paint is at the shop garage so I've got to pick that up tomorrow,,, should be painted in the next few days,, going camping and fishing this weekend for Father's Day with my wife! I'm stoked! So no truck progress will be made Friday , Saturday or Sunday. But next week should get quite a lot done. Need to pick up about 12 cans of paint, 5 or 6 flat black rustoleum cans, and 6 or 7 gloss cans.. So I can really lay it on thick on the underside of the bed,,, bed is super smooth feeling after the sanding,, still a few spots that are just absolutely crusted up in decades of dirt,, extremely difficult to get off but the bed won't get painted or restored until all the varnish and rough areas are clean and smooth.... I've never done this to a bed or dog house before , let me just say it's ALOT of work! And attention to detail.... Just trying to take my time and do it right instead of cutting corners,,, here is my progress on the bed,,,, side note, bed mounts are okay and true, but the frame of the bed is bent quite a bit in some spots, I will straighten it out as best as I can and tac weld plates in the bent areas to strengthen it. The wheel wells will get sanded quite a bit more and they too will get the love the bed is getting, gloss black will go on the wheel wells nice and thick just like the bed,, the front of the bed will get gloss as well, even though it sits directly behind the cab I will also do that as well, fun fact, the bed was blue before, not originally orange, definitely looking forward to a restored body and bed! (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/arusyvar.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/qymujusa.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/syquhy6e.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/u3urydu4.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/hu6ujypu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/u7u6ure9.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/utamynaj.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/qymymupy.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/vu2uzy4y.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/8abaquse.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/y6ahadas.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/nu3u9emy.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/etubypud.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/a2uruqe8.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/e2e7a2y4.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/egydyren.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/9uvyru3e.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/u6ezura6.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/pu9u5e3a.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/uguse3y3.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/2eqy4ymu.jpg)
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Travis is as happy as can be to help me restore this classic hot rod, first time he's ever been around this kind of thing, he actually got to ride in the truck multiple times when I had the 305 in it picking him up from school, he just loves it! Next work progress will be sanding again over the entire bed, wash , clean, then prep work, and finally paint, so hopefully 2 or 3 days of doing this and it will be ready ,,,,, FINALLY! (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/4eryha5u.jpg)
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So here is some real good close up pics of the bed,,,, the gas tank will be painted on the inside of the actual gas tank cover, as well as behind the cover inside the bed, check the pic out you'll know exactly what I mean,, the bed is in overall great condition with the exception of some areas that just need some love and attention to detail, goal is to get every bit of rust and spec of dirt off for a nice paint finish to be applied,, more sanding and spot cleaning should do the trick, the HARD to reach areas are the very ends of both sides of the bed very small to work in and that's where a lot of the grime is still left, as well as the center of the bed that still needs quite a bit of attention and love to get it where it should be, like I said never restored a bed before or a dog house, always have done engine work or upgrades to the suspension etc, never really been a body fixer upper but I sure am getting my feet wet with this project build restoring the body... Side note, the black drips on the end of the bed is like a rubber based black paint,,, any ideas on getting it off easily without removing paint? I could sit there and finess it for hours and get the same results but my back tells me to think of something different, also see pic with white scuff mark on left side of pics on the bed, that sucker ,,,, I don't know how that got there but that has got to go and get touched up , freshened up with some paint, that will be something else to fix and make it match,,, I'd really like to be my OCD self and get every last little thing,,, it's a challenge, but fun seeing hard work starting to pay off a little, since our house we are living at is 8800 feet up and on the side of a mountain, dust particles have settled on the bed pretty good, the breeze does a nice job at times of the day blowing stuff around,,, it's pretty nice up here ..weather wise, but storms tend to blow through quite often during the summer creating delays in work , setbacks a little as well due to blowing sand dirt etc on something I'm trying to keep clean as possible, so most of the time I have to reclean what I literally just did, but hey it keeps me busy,me see the bed rails I was talking about, they are bent up pretty good in spots and a few fat patches of rust to go along with it , I'll sand as best as I can and clean this chevy short bed up as best as I can, I'm using no power tools at all to do this, just a mouse sander and a brain and elbow grease lol, so not much to work with tool wise guys but I'm trying! The bed is sitting on a spare set of atv tires haha! And this is my work area, I cover it up with a brown tarp to keep wandering eyes and fingers at a distance, the two posts and chain is where it will be chained up under lock and key every time it's parked, along with multiple safety power switches to keep thieves from stealing it so easily. The battery will be removed every night as much as a pain that will be, I say that now , but we will see,,, serious thought though, I really want to make it very hard for anyone to take the truck, why don't people just work and sacrifice so they can have one also instead of stealing others things ? I'll never understand that, it's just like people stealing puppies and dogs,,,,, what in the world are they thinking ? Lol anyways, I am home every day 24 hours a day around the house and every time someone drives by I'm there looking to see who it is because we don't have many visitors up where we live, that in itself makes things a bit easier, I always have my lever action 45-70 ready and rearing to go with 460 grain hard point bullets loaded up just in case. We have bears , mountain lions, cougars, bobcats, lynx, coyotes, and wolves amoung other predators so it's safe to say that packing firearms up here is definitely wise.anywho I get off on a tangent sometimes,,, I know it's a lot of pics but this is my project that I'm putting heart into and I love it and am definitely proud of it and I've always been one to take a lot of pictures! 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Literally the ENTIRE bed was CAKED in this ultra thick dirt/ grime and it has been a CHORE getting it off to even be able to see the actual metal let alone cleaning sanding it until I could get it to where it's at now, insane progress made I feel, it was unbelievable guys just how heavily caked on it was, I'd rather be sanding through layers of paint than this stuff. Very difficult to even get the bed to look like it does now compared to before... Pretty much take the nastiest spot you can find in the pic and multiply it by hundred times, lol it was EVERYWHERE underneath this chevy short wide! But it's coming along. Should see it getting cleaner and cleaner and finally painted here soon!
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So I dropped off the entire rotating assembly for balance and the guys did a fantastic job of balancing it... A literal dead on the nose zero balance on the entire rotating assembly, including the clutch , flywheel and harmonic balancer. He balanced it above and beyond what he normally balances it at. It is a dead zero on everything... They have been around for 60 years.... Long story short,,, my crank was ground 010" thousandths and is perfectly true and perfectly balanced to the T.... MOST every engine and balance job he does is within tolerances and specs. But he balanced it over and over like he does for the race engines he builds and works on for the race car drivers that compete on the pikes peak hill climb.. He moves his machine to a 3.0 tolerance and gets it dead on the nose for his race engines.. Well one of his guys accidentally I don't know how this happened but they ground off .010" on my crank when it was only supposed to be a balance job.. So he went above and beyond on the balance job. I have the balance sheet and all that data that comes with it... He felt bad my balance job turned into a machine job. So he ate the cost on rod bearings because he made the mistake of shaving off metal on my virgin stock 454 crank. It hadn't been polished, balanced, or ground before, and now it has, but that's okay it actually worked to my benefit in a really good way, and so he ordered calico coated clevite high performance race bearings. At first he offered to replace my crank with a brand new one. But I thought that was unnessecary. Stock cranks are not balanced and the journals are not perfectly round. Well now I have a perfectly round and perfectly balanced crank. The entire assembly is race balanced to a dead zero and not just a standard balance job.. Holes were drilled in the rods and crank as well, weights added and taken away. I am pretty STOKED on the outcome of this job he did for me. Very good job on his part in the machine shop. My other clevite bearings are being sent back to summit racing for a refund. So the bearings we have are the best we could afford without dropping thousands.. The bearings will all be hand filed to match each and every journal , and rod bearings too.. Tony is building a full out race bored 454 with me..... 600 horses of pure American muscle :-) the heads are getting completely worked over in every single shape and form... Inside and out, ground, polished, honed, ported, cut, and tricked out in every way this old school muscle mechanic is able to. Opening up the combustion chamber for more room, shaving this and shaving that. Still have ALOT of work to do on this heads... It's beyond a stage 3 port and polish by far considering what a machine shop would do on a stage 3 port and polish, we are taking these heads and getting the absolute most out of them. Way better than what a 2000 dollar set of heads would ever do for me, so I'm very very excited to have the finished product! The big nasty Dana 70 behemoth of an axle has been FINALLY installed along with the suspension lift in the rear... The truck has literally turned into a monster truck compared to what it was... 1 ton axles and suspension and 33" tires has made a world of difference... The truck with the tires and "4" inch lift has made at least 12 to 14 inches taller than what it was.... It barely will fit out of the garage now! The door handle is now at nose level for me! I can't even get in the truck now because of my jacked up body and the height of the rocker panels where they are sitting makes I for impossible getting in...so ,,,, a step bar will be welded in place and made so that I can retract it back underneath. Not electronic, mechanical,,, my body only has so much strength to it and ability to lift my legs are hard on me... Some guys probably will laugh when they read this but hey,,, I broke my back bad, knee twice, 20 bones in my foot and dislocated my hip that leaves me with a limp... So getting in a lifted truck is a challenge to say the least... Just getting in my wife's dodge ram 1500 4x4 with oversized tires is hard enough... So this chevy is huge now and I'm gona have issues getting in ,,,, and out,,, so we are going to fab something up to help my old man body out getting in and getting out! Haha... What a huge difference with the 1 ton axles and suspension and tires.... I'm pretty stoked that's for sure.... It's coming along and turning out to be a really cool truck.., last truck I'm building... I would love to build a 4x4 for my wife ,,,, but a 305 would be the engine choice due to her concern for fuel mileage.... So the 454 should be ready fairly soon after it's back from the Machinist.... So excited to have it done... Not much work was done last week by me. We had a 30 plus hour road trip this past weekend and so I wasn't able to do anything,,, But this week I should be finishing up painting the bed and dog house so that's great !!! Just taking my time with this truck and trying to do things right and not mess up or cut corners.... The crank was installed along with the rods with the new ARP bolts and we are just loving it with the ARP products... Those guys make great performing stuff.... Side note,,, my body hasn't felt the best lately and it's keeping me from getting more things done on the hot rod,,, so that's another major reason why it's taking forever,,, but that's okay, patience is a virtue haha.... Truly.... I know this is a long update but hey I love this site and I love the truck build and I love updates and pictures and posting them here for you all to enjoy.... The front axle still needs the expensive top plates from Chevrolet... I'm trying to get those still.... Brakes still need done, clutch linkage still needs rebuilt, tranny bell housing still needs cleaned out, the heads still need the paint stripped off too as a matter of fact,,, a few engine parts still need painted, the drive shafts still need new yokes to adapt to the new axles, also need new strong as an oxe u-joints for the driveshafts in its entirety, still need new 8 lug rims for the 1 ton axles, I sold my springs and old roller rockers though that's a big plus! Still trying to sell my axles here in colorado on craigslist but no one has called on them so please pray for me that I can sell them here locally to someone who actually can use them or want them so pray I can sell some of my stuff and extra parts! I received a box with two turn signal light covers, and two original great condition Cheyenne 10 emblems for the truck! My truck is completely de-badged and it needs some badges :-) so those will be going on very soon :-) they will get repainted by myself and hopefully will turn out good looking ! I received a D- in art in high school, art is really something I'm not gifted with but we will give it a shot :-) my axles still need sandblasted and painted too, inside the truck it needs new floor mats and rubber, a few gauges for the truck, a stock radio which I still need to get, and just a couple of basic speakers, the heater core still needs replaced as well, the windows are hard to roll up,, I'm going to fix that,me also driver side door is missing a lock and the right side doesn't work, so the locking mechanism and bars inside the door will be replaced as well, any weather stripping needing replaced will get replaced too ,,, still needing new door handles to get the hideous blue off,,, could always just strip and paint with a vinyl approved interior paint for the handles ,,,, truck needs LOVE,,,, and I'm doing my best to give it attention and tlc... Truly have been enjoying every second I'm around in the shop working on the truck or working on body parts here at the house... Definitely fun that's for sure,,, gets me out of the house and doing something.... Should be soon for the complete assembly on the motor... 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The heads still need a TON of work, we are just taking our sweet time going through them... The whole truck as a matter of fact still needs a ton of work ,,,, but progress is definitely being made on it!
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The front tires were pulled off the old 6 lug rims and mounted onto the "dummy" 8 lug rims! Installed on the truck finally!!! Here is a few pics of the truck from my phone camera. Sorry the pics are not good quality... I will post some up as soon as I'm back down at the shop with a better camera! What do you guys think?! It's a monster 1 ton 4x4(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/02/uqusaqan.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/02/ejapyse8.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/02/zeju6apy.jpg) compared to what it started out at! It's going to barely fit under the garage door backing it out.... She's coming along .....
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8) looking good! Would it be possible to post a short video of her running for the first time? Can't wait to see her all buttoned up.
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Thanks Minus I appreciate it! Been awhile since I heard from you! How's life buddy?! Did you get married?! You know brother man I can totally post up a video of the big block running and starting it's very first time, with us tuning it etc... I'll post up multiple vids for you minus your the first who's asked about a video or commented on my truck build in awhile! Dunno why other members are being so silent on this truck build ? Wonder if I said something that offended people,,,, don't know , but thanks bro glad your excited to see it done! I am too I just cannot wait to feel the rumble in my chest idling! It will be put into the truck once it's done, motor has too much grunt to be started idling on an engine stand, it will have to be in the truck :( we don't have a stationary heavy duty big block stand to run the engine on, just a stand to build it on... But hey that's better than nothing ! Dude I need rims! Lol and a plethora of other parts still! Not sure when it will be 100% done.... But I do know this, that engine should be DONE by the end of July, still have about 40 hours on the heads to do at least , and another 30 to 40 on the motor, soo quite a bit of labor still left just on the engine, still a good amount to do on the truck itself too,,, BUT it's getting closer everyday minus!
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Happy 4th of July everyone ! Our Independence day! FREEDOM came with such a cost and we are extremely fortunate to live in the U.S.A........
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Happy belated 4TH!
Truck is coming along. Looks good!
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Thanks bd ! Happy 4th of July to you as well! I hope you had a great time yesterday! Thankyou bd I appreciate it! Glad you like it !
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So I know it's not related to the truck , but this eumorpha achemon moth ( leaf moth ) is very cool looking , just outside our screen door
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Nah, I'm sure you didn't offend anyone. Everyone had a long winter so we're all working on outside projects and just enjoying the nice weather. Life is good here. Just finished re grading the north side of my house. Now I can start installing the new flooring in our basement. Not married yet, waiting on the boss to finish her RN degree. Will be at least two years. Anyway my truck is at a stand still right now. Need to prep the new cab for install. It's a two wheel drive body so I need to modify the cab. Keep up the great work.
Take care,
Eric
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You re graded the north side of your house? Wow man... And installing a floor in the basement ? Sounds like your a busy man ! Lol the boss , yeah that's exactly what wives become :-) just so you know , happy wife happy life buddy,,,,, haha,,,, I so hear ya on the truck standstill thing, my truck came to a complete hault just about for awhile except doing the odds and ends, I'll have to check out the new carb you have for your motor, what did you go with? Thanks minus , I hope I didn't..... Appreciate it I'm trying to get the truck done as best as I can
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So BIG update guys............. I was getting the run around on getting any kind of work done on the heads, block, engine in its entirety for a very long time and got fed up with it. Shop owner is a genuine good guy but the engine builder slacked and slacked and slacked doing nothing for the truck build. The truck will be finished at the shop after the engine is completed. SOOO ,,, this is what I did... I pulled everything,,,, block , heads, cam, bearings, crankshaft , rods , pistons, and all the parts I bought for the motor and took everything down to Burts auto supply and machine shop here in the springs. They have been around for 60 years... And know what they are doing to a T. he is going to fully assemble the engine for me. Top to bottom, he is starting completely over by cleaning everything in the hot tank, then align boring the block, filing the bearings, decking the block after measuring each piston, adjusting the main caps for a better clamp and hold. Assembling the rods pistons crank and bearings, doing bowl work on the heads ( combustion chamber ) porting and polishing, port matching, valve work, and cleaning the heads really well as well.. He is going to try to squeeze 600 ponies out of this big block for me on pump gas... He has his work cut out for him that's for sure. He will assemble the full roller setup, roller cam, roller rockers , roller lifters and is going to give the cam some love and trick it out a little too. It's a 588 lift cam. The block has been bored .030" over already before I dropped it off, when i bought the motor it was that way already, I had another machine shop which did a poor job overall . Poor customer service, had them clean and crosshatch the cyclinders doing a honing job,,, they did okay on the cross hatching and removing scratches gouging etc , both vertical and horizontal gouging and scratches :(. But the owner of the shop and his senior engine builder are doing this engine build themselves! So I'm definitely fortunate that's for sure. The engine will be completed in two weeks time. Everything was dropped off yesterday to them with a down payment. He builds race engines for the pikes peak hill climbers here in colorado and does a fantastic job at what he does, guy has a natural talent for it. And so I'm definitely blessed to have his hands on the engine build. He is building it like it should be, a performance big block. Every last detail will addressed on this engine, I finally got my Holley 830 double pumper this morning from the other mechanic . It has been heavily modified. So it should be a great add on to the engine. So it's official now, two weeks until my engine is finally fully assembled !!! And by a reputable professional machine shop to boot! 60 years of building engines. I'm pumped! It's no easy feat to build horsepower here at 8000 feet where I live. So we will see what the outcome is, exhaust will flow through some hooker competition headers and out through a dual x pipe 3" exhaust or 2.75" we will see after it's done exactly what it will need. I'm excited guys.. The front tires are on the truck now with both the Dana 60 and Dana 70 swapped over to the truck and the new suspension added on as well. Will be doing the brakes here shortly too, drive shafts need cut and welded , rebuilt, that's hefty price for that, but needs done, clutch linkage needs rebuilt, also bearings for the axles will get replaced too, still have the heater core to do as well and a few other things, but at least the engine will be done perfect as the owner can possibly get it, head work is EXPENSIVE , that's where a lot of the money will be tied up giving the heads a manicure :-) all the power is in the heads. Very time consuming to do head work. I am very excited to FINALLY have this big block being finished. Now I just have to be patient and wait for it to be done... Which isn't easy, I'm the kind of guy that likes to check up on every single last thing that is done and a machine shop just doesn't work that way lol so it's tough for me. I'll try to squeeze out a few pictures of the progress but don't know when... These guys are old school and I don't want to upset them in any way. The new 1 ton big block K10 project should be done in its entirety in August sometime. And once the motor is broken in really well and everything has had a chance to get broken in on the truck...... I am going to just lay on it in a deep hole of mud sometime . It will not be a muddling truck, this will be a carefully driven and maintained truck but will see some abuse from time to time. I don't abuse my things or my trucks, I like to take care of what I have. I will post a video of the engine running the first time, and when the truck is done as well, and of course will post a ton of pictures just like I always do.... Well guys I'm sure there is more I could write up on but I'll leave it at that for now.... Two weeks motor is DONE. Then one week and vroom vroom !!!
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Keep your chin up bud. I'm sure everything will fall into place soon. 8)
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This thing is going to be an absolute monster. That 454 is the stuff of dreams. Just having a resource like that machinist/engine builder is so rare these days.
I'm nearing the end on my frame off/resto mod (77GMC K15). It has taken 5+ years to do. She is on the road now with tags and insurance. My advice is of course take your time but more than that try not to scrimp on anything big. Better to save than cut corners. I cheaper out with my suspension (rough country lift and shocks) and my first test drive I knew I made a mistake. Too stiff, too bouncy, poor handling. Don't neglect the interior stuff like gauges, dash bezels, cranks etc. You are gonna want this thing perfect just like I did and that factory plastic dash just aint cuttin it for me. Worked too hard to stare down at that butt ugly GM gauge cluster.
I'm gonna ride my trucks 350/350trans till they pop. After that it is time for me to finally rebuild my first Chevrolet 350 V-8.
My build threads called "My Project" but I haven't updated in a while. I want to get pretty close to done with the interior of the cab before doing so. Had some user issues with my window install and hope to iron it out this weekend.
Haven't read your whole thread but did you have a lot of rust repair to deal with?
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Thanks Minus and Tonka I appreciate the support.... I hope it will be.... Yeah it is rare these days and most machinists charge an arm and a leg for any kind of work... That's a long time Tonka, congrats on finally driving the k15 down the road,,, it's just the plastic gauge cluster, one day would like to get a metal one to spiff it up a bit, I'm having window issues as well, tough to roll up that's for sure, and no door locks work, driver side is missing the lock , so gotta replace those as well,,,, as well as many other things, I will post an entire list of what was purchased and added to the truck, replaced parts etc, in one post for everyone to read what all in its entirety was done to the truck. I had a fair amount of rust on the frame to take care of when I did the frame restoration, check out the pics of the frame restoration...still have under the cab to do :( but it will get done,,, truck bed is just waiting to get sanded a bit more so I can paint it, still need to buy more paint and clear coat I don't have so I still need that as well , then the dog house and bed will get painted on the same day and finally wrapped up, rust formed on the bed from sanding it in areas so I have more sanding to do before I paint it , By the way I'm hoping the drivability and handling will be good, I went with a rough country full suspension setup / lift, door handle height is nose/ eye level high to me after adding the front tires on lol! Hoping it will drive right and ride well, if not that, I'll do what I can to soften it up a bit, once it gets broken it I think it will do just fine... We will see, I will have a few kinks here and there I need to work out before it rolls down the road with that big block in it, don't want anything to happen that shouldn't.... Anywho thanks for the support guys
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Well I'm going to have to get some new roller lifters for the engine, I don't want to chance it using old lifters and result in an engine failure, so new roller lifters are going on as well, still deciding on which ones to go with, oil supply is so important, I'm just going to sell the old used lifters to someone here in a Colorado who may want to use them, I just don't want to take any chances... It's just not worth it to have the engine fail because of a used set of lifters... I need it done right and for this engine to LAST a very long time. I will hopefully have them picked out soon... I just want to be done already with the engine and expenses,,, it's killing me,,,,
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These are the lifters that I'm thinking I may go with,, I went with Howard springs, Howard's cam, Howard's push rods a one or so other products from Howard's, thinking that these lifters may be very beneficial to the motor
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So I'm also getting some new performance stainless steel intake and exhaust valves for the 781 1973 heads I have, along with hardened valve seats installed, new valve guides as well, I'm going with the Howard's retro fit hydraulic roller lifters for my lifters, the old distributor is unfortunately out of the question so I'm going with a msd street fire Hei distributor for the brains of the motor, there is a slight chance that may change but most likely it will be the distributor I choose, I'm sticking with my 781 chevy heads that I have, getting port matching done, bowl work ( combustion chamber ) , port / polish work as well and a 3 angle valve job with a 30 degree back cut in addition. I forgot to take my camera to take pictures today at the shop, sorry about that , perhaps next time I will remember. Also ordering some 3" piping for the exhaust to bolt up to the hooker headers, haven't decided wether or not which muffler to go with, flowmasters 50 or 60 series mufflers,,,,, more info to come
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Also getting some comp cams engine break in oil for the first several thousand miles to get the motor broken in properly while trying to drive it with white gloves so to speak
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I've decided to go with straight 30 weight oil and zddp additive for breaking in the motor instead of comp cams break in oil, rings seat better with the straight 30 weight oil and zddp additive , I bought joe Gibbs 15w50 break in oil for the break in procedure but truly am just going to return it to summit for a credit and spend the money on something else I will need. Well the parts allll arrived these last couple days in various boxes, big ones too jeez some of them were really heavy so the ups man moved them inside for me :-) and the kiddos helped me move piece by piece upstairs every last bit of it! They are excited over the truck for it to be done so they can ride in it haha .... It's cool to have the children's support... Even the littlest one is excited about it and has asked questions..... Seems like all but one is excited,,,,,, anywho,, I need hose clamps and battery cables and wires as well to re-wire the firewall with some new connections and wires. I stopped by the shop yesterday and spoke with the owner who has been building my motor and his best old time assistant who is doing the heads worked over the cam a bit and made it even more nasty . Jay says " that's one monster of a cam " lol and Lynn painted the block , deep sump oil pan and timing cover chevy orange and it just looks so carefully put together and painted so well I'm very happy with the turnout of it. Definitely more than satisfied. They are going through the carb too while they are at it , mounting the new distributor in and timing it. So all I will pretty much have to do is just start it and fine tune the carb. So many details to post and list on here that I'm not just leaving out for now, I will post an entire parts list etc at the end of the build. Hopefully we will be done soon, I picked up the brakes, front pads, rear shoes, hardware kit and bearings, and seals for the axles. Trying to match up the ball joints and replace the joints in the drag link ( steering arm ) off the steering box. Hoping everything will fit if not it's back to the store trying to get the right parts. I need to have the driveshafts rebuilt and fixed up as well, I do have u joints for those already though. Trading two in for stronger u joints as I bought the last two pairs of the solid heavy duty ones. So I will trade up and get two more of those heavy duty ones... I would like to get some new floor mats soon as I could use some new ones. I would really like to EVENTUALLY get a brand new seat sometime. New rubber for the pedals is a must as well. Would like to get a factory radio soon and a basic speaker setup to boot. Don't know if I could use one with the big block, don't know if I will hear the radio, lol seriously though. I also could use a new battery, my battery will for sure work a month or two but it needs replaced honestly. Might sell the battery to someone who could really use it here in colorado. I just need a rock solid dependable through and through truck. For myself to help my family. And for the truck by God's grace to get through our harsh winters and storms. It's going to be an every day driver so a second gas tank will eventually be mounted on the drivers side of the truck with a manual fuel and electric switch to eliminate the possibility of failure switching tanks as best as possible. The u bolt plates that didn't work ,,,,, I have thought of a great idea for them.... Steps ........ For me to get into the truck ! Lol I think they are heavy duty enough that's for sure, 3/8" thick steel.... Still need LOTS of flat black paint, gloss , and clear coat, also hoping the motor and the intake manifold and carb combo with giant air filter will all shut underneath the hood, otherwise will have it do a hood scoop style hood. Still need new rims but the ones I have will work for a little while, also need an alignment and a few small suspension parts to finish up the build.... Here is the latest list of parts and pictures with descriptions.... Getting closer and closer to finally being done.
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/09/ugyzaba7.jpg). MY NEW FOOT STEPS TO GET INTO THE TRUCK! Yeah!
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My new shifter!!!
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I gotta leave for an hour or so but I will post a bunch of details and new stuff when I get back
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So I got a new fan the other day,,,, well new to me ,,,,, 7 bladed fan , kinda used for sure but not too beat up though, it isn't bent from what I can tell, so I cleaned it up , sanded it real good and got it smoothed out, then painted it with rustoleum flat black, I did several coats of flat black on the fan to get a nice good coat and seal against future rust, I am stripping the old paint off the "new" pulleys ... Sanding it, and painting it a nice flat black from rustoleum paint products.., I really like rustoleum. Stuff works great, good quality paint especially for the price!
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This is after sanding it
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This is when the paint was wet
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Here are the tow hooks before and after pics, they were rusty and needing to be stripped sanded and painted up!
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/09/9y3ebymu.jpg). After sanding the hooks :-) I'm excited over them!
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/09/manegu3u.jpg). I even did the bolts !
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Rust is visible on the bolts still
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Bolts still need another few coats of flat black for sure
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What do you guys think of the fan and tow hooks?!
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Here is a massive list of parts that just arrived, the pics and posts above are new parts to me but used, BUT IM REFURBISHING THEM!!!
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The old parts above are new to me and ARE BEING REFURBISHED AND PAINTED!!! And then installed haha !
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Here is a list of the new parts from summit on what came in, the descriptions etc, pics :-)
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Sorry for the multiple posts of the same thing , I don't know why it did that
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There was fresh metal shavings in the pipe from it being cut at the factory
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More updates to come picking up the family
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Okay here is some more updates
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These were two of the boxes that came from summit,, heavy suckers for sure, had the ups man move them inside, I had the children help me carry piece by piece up the stairs haha helpful bunch !
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Here was a different parts order
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It was way more than 1271 lol
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My big order the second one isn't on here, first order was intake manifold, clutch, springs, and a couple other parts totaling 1271
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The engine parts list was quadruple that added together
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With the engine cost , engine parts, labor, tires, plethora of parts, machine shop, cost of truck, right at 21,500 dollars,,,,,,,
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And counting
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22k or so
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A stupid high number,,,, ridiculously expensive,,,,, never thought in a million years it would be this expensive
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Howard's maximum effort retro fit hydraulic roller lifters
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Inner and outer bearings for the Dana 60 kingpin and Dana 70hd axles
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Here are the bearings in its entirety for the 1 ton axles , inner and outer bearings
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/09/tudyhaja.jpg) here are the seals
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I may need a couple more seals but oddly enough this is what it called for ?
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My new foot steps to help me get into the truck :-) ! Yeah buddy!
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What do you guys think?!
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New flowmaster super 10 exhaust duals !!!
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New alternator ! 140 amps from power master
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New heavy duty oil cooler!
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/09/uve2ude8.jpg) this is the break in oil I've decided not to go with ,,,, very expensive and will get thrown away 30 minutes to an hour after startup
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New upper and lower radiator hoses, but forgot to buy clamps haha
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Old power steering pump, keeping just in case of a failure
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New tachometer , hopefully it works well
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New Saginaw power steering pump!!!
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Fuel pressure gauge , hopefully it works well
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New thermostat!
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New oil temperature gauge
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From Stewart Warner gauges ,couldn't afford auto meter gauges, I had a pillar on my diesel truck that cost 400 smackers
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Thermostat gasket
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New high torque mini starter !
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New high volume iron waterpump, long style
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New msd street fire Hei distributor !
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New fan clutch from Hayden
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/09/huvuvepy.jpg) new door locks!
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The joe Gibbs 10w40 conventional high zinc oil high phosphorus came today :-) no pictures yet of that tomorrow I will post a couple
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Check out the testimonials guys on his oil,,, yes it's very expensive but he has specific oils for very specific uses and needs and from what his customers say it's truly some of the absolute best stuff out there ,,,,
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Many motors were unscathed and saved by the bell with his oils from what his customers. And users had to say, various sites backed up the hype
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The exhaust is 3" duals with flowmaster super 10 mufflers attached ( welded ) on, should be pretty throaty
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Motor has been worked completely over and repainted chevy orange, it looks immaculate, I didn't take pictures :-( I will soon though, the short block build is complete ,,,, so still have the upper half to go with the heads, intake manifold , carb and air filter ,,,,
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I purchased new light bulbs for the truck too awhile back don't think I've posted those
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Getting closer for sure!
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Clamps ( hose ) , battery cables, good ones, good battery , drive shafts rebuilt, and radiator shroud are among the major items I need to complete the need parts list
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Oh and a few joints up front as well :-) oh and rims lol you'll see why on those
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I will post very detailed motor work soon,,, what all was done etc and of course will throw a bunch of pics in there too
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Expect that to be next week on the engine details I'd say,,,
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Too much to list and too many details for tonight it's late... Hoping for an American thunder ( muscle ) big block bored out 454 :-)
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To create windshield breaking power and torque and smiles to go along :-)
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Wonder if my sm465 tranny will need anything else besides a good throw out bearing and new oil and a heavy duty clutch ? Any advice on that guys,,,,, would be helpful,,,,
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The np205 transfer case should just need some new fluid and be good to go, looks fair for sure
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Now about the windows rolling down/up, those are tough, definitely need the mechanism inside the doors replaced, those rods are bent I think
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Bed needs to be painted up too, herculiner I'm thinking I'd like to use for that ,,,,,,any suggestions, ideas?
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Front manual lockouts for 4wd ,,,,,, I'm going to rebuild those sometime this year with all new internals / painting the manual lockouts too to match the truck
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I need fuel lines, in its entirety , and power steering hoses and fittings/ clamps as well actually
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Haven't been on in awhile but is sure looks like your making some head way. Fan and hooks look great! Man that thing is going to have more gauges than a space shuttle...lol
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Loool thanks minus I appreciate it,, those tow hooks and fan took a bit of work for sure....it's been pretty quiet on the build page lately except for my posts and updates
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yeah...I haven't had much time to work on mine. I'm having our fab shop make me a new rail that runs the width of the bed underneath. Original was all rusted out and falling apart. I should have it back this week. Then I can prime and paint the inside of the rail get it welded back on then coat the whole underside of the bed. Don't think I'll have time this weekend but hopefully soon.
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That's pretty sweet actually make sure to definitely post pictures of the rail before install and after install Etc, I want to see that! Well don't let the time issue get you down. It will work itself out buddy, you'll eventually get the time you've been wanting to work on it, and you'll get things knocked out soon enough, just keep an open eye out for it and talk to the fiancé about it lol.... I hope you are doing well minus,..... Andrew
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So I FINALLY picked up enough paint to finish the inside of the dog house and the bottom of the bed as well! Picked up rustoleum gloss protective enamel and also the clear coat enamel to protect and seal the finish on it... I probably will need like 6 more cans of clear coat at least so I can finish up on the frame.... I never clear coated it.. So I will clean and apply another layer or two of gloss and clear coat it A.S.A.P on the frame and rest of the body that I'm painting... I will need more gloss too, I'd say 6 cans at least on the frame... And another 6 for the axles.... I will be painting those as well. I'm not a pro by any means but I'm trying my best to make it looked spiffed up and built right inside and out.... I am ordering a new battery for the truck as well and will place the "old" battery in one of our other vehicles after testing it... I'm looking into a optima red top battery with 800 cold cranking amps at zero degrees. I have heard great things about this battery with some saying it has lasted eight years easily. Some were daily drivers, others were not daily drivers. I could use some new battery cables and connectors as well which I'm thinking will be the next thing I need it get after the battery.... It's coming along and hopefully I will have all these parts and things installed myself and the motor put it and truck done by the first snow..... We will see if I can manage that.....
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So I went to walmart today because I'm doing a transmission service on my wife's 1996 dodge ram 1500 4x4 for a tranny filter and fluid exchange as well as adjust the bands. And they only had 7 quarts of ATF plus 4 . It takes 10.1 quarts according to the owners manual ! So I purchased two more cans of clear coat enamel from rustoleum ( favorite brand of paint ) and a package of 50 grit sandpaper to blow through the job today and hopefully I will get the bed and dog house finally done between today and tomorrow! We will see ... The weather and wind has a lot to do with getting it done in a timely manner.... Well that's about it for today, I will post pictures like always if I get anything else done today on the truck!
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Oh yeah did I mention I used a mouse sander for this entire project ? Lol
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It must be a bonus pack? Said it had 5 pieces .... But there's more than 5 in here
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Well guys I just ordered my first ever optima battery!
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It's a red top with a bci group of 34/78 !
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Here's a pic and some info on it!
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Also ordered another tube of loctite 598 black high temp sealant ( -75 degrees to 625 degrees ) for my truck, I used half a tube on my wife's tranny pan / filter change / fluid exchange service on our other 4x4. So she let me order another tube!
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Here are this particular optima red top battery specifications
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And here are the specs and details for loctite 598 high temp sealant, I recommend this stuff
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For 5.99 a tube at summit , it's quality made and at a affordable price, highly recommend this stuff
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The new optima red top battery and loctite 598 high temp sealant should arrive in a couple days!
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Now I just need some new battery cables and connections to go with to provide the most for the new battery. Poor connections ie corroded or oil varnish , dirt, rust , debris etc on the electrical connections or old worn seen it's better days type of wires will hinder electrical current causing a higher amp draw, more heat through the wires and a possible risk of melting or fire, drainage to your battery and an increased load on the alternator with a decrease in voltage to components. It's vital to have good connections and wires in good condition, my wires and connections truly could use replacing so that's the goal!
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Love my red top. Didn't pay for it, when I worked at auto zone 8-9 years ago someone dropped it off as a core. I had a couple spare cores laying around so I swapped it out put it on trickle charge and put her in my 94 it was used when I got it and its still in my truck
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That is a total score on a optima that's for sure, you didn't pay for it , got it for free, and it has lasted over 9 years ? And was used when you got it?! WHAT....... that's insane.... So you pretty much scored a 200 dollar battery free that still works nearly a decade later,.. That's a once in a 1000 story lol jeez and how is it working to this day? Any signs of it standing on its last leg? Or is it " running on all cylinders" still? Do you keep a trickle charger hooked up to it? How often do you recharge it if at all?
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Irish that is a God thing that the used optima you were able to get has lasted this long, truly
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Yeah its over 9 years. Seams when it gets real hot the starter will struggle. But I don't think I ever replaced the starteror the wires. Truck has over 330k but no trickle charge. Every now and then the battery light will pop on with the head lights and wipers on. But replaced the alt a couple years ago and it stopped now it does it every now and again.
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Having the wires replaced with new ones I'm sure would help, what about your voltage regulator? That might be a possible cause..... Perhaps a loose ground somewhere causing a short? Or a connection somewhere in a switch? Open loop connection through a loose wire? A soon to be faulty relay could cause it.... That is a LOT of miles,,, is it still going strong? That's impressive Irish .... Seems to me you definitely do maintenance on the truck often... That can't be said for many vehicles on the road today..... Can you post a pic for giggles of the truck and battery since it's related?
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lol its more of a beater with a/c. its really the wife’s first truck 94 with the front end of a 93- swb 4.3 4l60e (the original trans did go about 13 years ago. got one from the junkyard came out of a v8 fyi the v8 version of the 4l60e has a lower stall and more clutch packs than the v6.)
it was a pain to get the a/c since the compressor was for r134a and the condenser was for r12. the fittings didnt match up so i had to find the right condenser to fit both the space in the front and the fittings. now it blows colder than most truck/cars i been in. it has also been cutting out once you reach 65+. Just today coming from work i was going about 60 wanted to go a little faster it started to stumble but was picking up speed. seamed to clear up and i looked down and was going 80. the 4.3 is just a 4.3 so its lacking the power that i want and used to from my 3.8 s/c impala. ill try to get some pictures
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Irish I'm heading out to sand a and paint today , I'm a slow worker so I look forward to responding to your post when I'm done today. Have a great day
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No that sounds like a rock solid truck to me .... Seriously.... It has that many miles and still runs and drives great .... That speaks volumes for itself ..... Well Irish at least it has the power you need...... Maybe not want but need...... How much is it producing ..... ROUGHLY..... To the wheels? How is the beefy 4l60e trans holding up? How many miles are it? Just curious..... Hey yeah I bet that AC issue was a headache trying to find the right condenser.... I prefer r134a anyways. R12 is dangerous stuff and harder to find .... And very expensive anyways.... Did you know r-414b can be a direct drop in replacement for r-12? It is also known as "hot shot" and actually runs at lower pressures and maintains the same cooling temps...it is great for a long life in the AC system and the components. Although you would need your EPA cert to buy it.... Unfortunately .... R134a can't just be dropped into a r12 AC setup as it would eat up the rubber seals and also the expansion valve doesn't have enough ability to adjust it for its range of required use to meter it correctly..... Anywho.... Hey just curious Irish.... Could you throw a super charger on the 4.3l for a relatively cheap price do it yourself style ? I mean I'm sure there is a model out there that has a supercharger you could throw on? Well a turbo setup is cheap if you do the homework and install fabricate yourself.... Has that hair brained thought ever crossed your mind? It's an IDEA...... You could get taller gears for your axles to help on power ,,,, just a thought ..... Sorry I didn't respond yesterday I was slammed busy Irish... My body is killing me today worse than normal ,,,,
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Someone please help me find top plates that are OEM and in stock for a Dana 60 king pin straight axle, 1 ton,,, gm or chevy top plates for a 80's model axle, I will post axle numbers today! Oh by the way I painted and sanded the bed!
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I will post pics today! I am going to paint the doghouse today! I will post pics tomorrow ... It's almost mid night and I've have a long long day painting and prepping, working etc,,, goodnight guys
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it came stock with only 165 hp so right now it prob has 100 lol. i dont even know if they made a super charger for the 4.3 and a turbo would just kill that motor. im thinking about getting a 400+hp/tq ($3k) motor for her and changing to a 4l80e trans this would be about the same price as buying a turbo setup i think and i would be making more power and more dependable. the gears idk what they are i imagine really low numbers for mpgs.
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Hey Irish I've been occupied and flat out haven't had time to get online this weekend. Been spending time with my family....
Oh jeez 100 you think ? Well it must carry itself somewhat alright ..........but not able to get out of its own way type of power ?
Well I tell ya .... A 400 horsepower ground pounding tire shreading engine would be VERY cool to throw under the hood that's for sure. Jeez that's sounds great Irish ..... How much thought and seriousness have you put into it? Are you seriously contemplating that? THAT would be something special right there... Especially, backed by a new heavy duty transmission to lay the power to the ground..... Do you have any idea of the gear ratio? I have been curious since we have been talking about your truck!
I agree it would be much more dependable than a turbo or any forced induction setup... Ie supercharger or turbo or if you have deep pockets.... BOTH lool..., agreed though..... I would stick with all natural cubic inches and raw power rather than a boosted engine, although very fun,,, not as reliable as pure muscle....plus the turbo or supercharger takes away from the beautiful sound a small or big block makes as it's Rollin down the road... Especially under load.. Some like the sound... I'm a fan of all naturally aspirated.,. Now don't get me wrong though... I love a well built cummins diesel with high boost :-) anyways ..... Irish ,... I think that's a great idea. What would the torque be? Estimated...... Mpg? City.... Highway....? What size carb would it have? What company ? Air filter? Flat tappet cam or full roller setup? How much lift ... Duration on the cam? Oval or rectangle port heads? So would you have a electric fan setup then in addition to the belt driven fan?
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OKAY....... Here is what I've been waiting for to post! Just needed the time! I FINALLY PAINTED the bed and doghouse.... It's 90 percent complete ! Just a few taping jobs combined with painting afterwards to complete that 10 percent left I have to do!
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Also my much anticipated optima red top battery came in! So looking forward to using this battery and I'm hopeful I will get years and years of use out of it!
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And the extra tube of loctite 598 ultra black silicone came in too. Totaling 4.5 tubes now of it haha :P
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Okay so here are the pics of the optima battery .... I have ALOT of pictures I'm posting so bear with me....
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I didn't feel like taking it out of the box to take pictures of it... That sucker is heavy.... Hard for me to lift...... Period...... I'll take a couple of it out of the box and installed ..... Later :-)
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The extra tube of loctite 598
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I forgot to mention! My valve covers won't fit over the new roller rockers .... So I needed new valve covers and a new air breather cap.... On the plus side it's nice... But it's seeming like everything needs mullah on this truck ... Fixing ... Replacing... Upgrading etc.... Jeez I can't wait to be done.....!
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Here are the new Chevrolet valve covers ! ( tall )
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The new Chevrolet stamped valve covers should be in Tuesday morning !
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This isn't related,,, but there is a lot of beautiful bucks.... And elk around here.... Bears ... Mountain lions.... Squirrels ...rabbits....and a plethora of species of birds, including many hummingbird species.... My fav around here.....
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Okay so here is the much awaited pics of the bed and dog house finally painted! There is a insane amount of them...
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Before sanding for the final time.... This is after sanding multiple times... There was a THICK HARD LAYER of dirt encasing the entire under side of the bed.... Took forever to get to the actual paint and metal
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And before I cleaned it before sanding.....
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The weather has NOT been normal up here.... Lots of storms ... Rain... Lightening ... Thunder and wind......
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I just put my nose to the grind stone and finally almost finished it! I had to build a fort over it to protect it from the rain and continue painting it! Lol !
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Here's the sand paper and the sander I used.... Sander is all I had to work with ...... Literally.......
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My get it done motivation helper ....
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Loool..... Couldn't even hear the sander let alone anything else! Tunes help getting work done.... At least for me.... It helps
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The weather Rollin in while I was trying to finish the bed!
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I saw this move in fast and just about had a cow.... I seriously was bummed when I saw this. But pressed on through it.... Up here at 8000 feet we get intense storms and they blow in quick ..... Look nice off in the distance but I was lucky it was just a normal rain and thunder storm!
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After washing and cleaning it :-)
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My work place / bench :-)
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I dried it with towels to save time lol
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The pictures above are the after wash after sand photos, and a few below too
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This part had soo much rust before I sanded it ....
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The bed is only bent up in a few spots underneath... You can easily see where....
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Storm Rollin in closer and closer,,,, causing me to kick it into overdrive.... I'm a slow worker... And just got done sanding again...... And washing ..... Again..... I've done this several times already ..... And I was determined to finish it today !
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I used this empty jug I cut quickly to empty out the wheel wells filled with water as fast as I could ....
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I used a couple towels to soak up the remainder of the water on the truck... No time to wait with that storm for it to dry ! Had to double time it!
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The towels were drying after I used them to dry the bed as quick and efficient as I could
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The makeshift fort / garage I made to keep it going !
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The storm made me brainstorm !
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I had to improvise. And improve my working situation or there was no way I was getting it done
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Okay here come the painting process pictures
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First rough coat
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Before pic / first coat of paint comparison
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The black drips are honestly from doing a do-it-yourself rhino liner... It dripped on the bed awhile ago..... My mistake.,, I will fix that here soon..
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See pic above this one... Left side of tailgate..... Naturally the right side..... Right side up
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Still a storm overhead... Thickening and dispersing then thickening again..... Repeating that process until it eventually just was a pure rain and thunder storm
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I put several thick layers of paint on. All these pics are in order of the painting process.... It was so hard on my back,... I felt it for a couple days after I was done painting
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See the tarp on the right I added? Lol I had to make a makeshift garage pretty much! To keep me and the truck out of the rain so I could continue painting.....
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My hood needs so much love...... Buffing .... And a lot of it!
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Okay the rest are the dog house,,,, painting.... Progress.... And also the final pictures of the bed
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I don't know what the pic is above this one....? Blooper lol
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I still need to paint this hood "latch" by the way
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That scratch makes me sick every time I see it lol
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Tape going across the front on the top ( light brown tape ) too keep unwanted parts from getting painted
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Still a lot of work to do
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Ugly tape will come off soon.....
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Still having a lot go buffing to do as well.... Seems like it never ends... Always more work to do.... You guys know what I'm talking about
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Hood mounting bracket still needs painting ..... These are all the before pictures of the dog house
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After I've already painted it flat black...... The post of it being painted flat black are in the build thread.... A ways back....
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Now for all the final pics of the bed! Keep in mind I still have a bit more to do ... The finessing part of the painting and overall completing the bed
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And after these pics I will post the final pics of the dog house !
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I gotta fix those dumb drips from rhino lining the bed!
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Right rear brake light
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Left rear brake light
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There were more coats on the bed which is what these pictures are of
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The above and below pics are the FINAL pics of the bed!
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Still have a little bit more painting to do.... Taping off certain areas etc
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Okay these are the painting progress pics of the dog house from start to finish!
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What do you think? Still needs a coat or two more
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I still need to sand and paint the wheel wells underneath
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Well this is ALL the pictures of the before and after pictures of the bed and dog house after sanding multiple times this summer and cleaning / re sanding , following up on the black primer I first put on the dog house and painting both finishing it pretty much... Have about 10 percent left to do... Ie taping and painting ... Double checking ... Few areas weren't painted that I need to... But I tell ya I am definitely glad to be done with most of it... I am a do it your selfer and have very little tools.... And want to complete the truck by the first snow fall here in the mountains... Or I would take my sweet time and get everything picture perfect on the truck.... But hey I did the best I could without killing myself on it,,.. I'm a disabled stay at home dad ....now to just put the body on the frame! Install the motor! And put the plethora of parts on lol !
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I am taking the big block 454 to the truck on Tuesday :-)
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I will of course post pics and details of the engine.... Among other things,,,,, :-)
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It will have the flowmaster super 10's... True duals... This video,is of small block 355 engine... Mine is a bored out 454 , heavily modified heads... Its interesting waiting to hear the sound of what it will be like.... I also like the super 44's series mufflers...
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Here is the link to the video.... Wait for the super 10's towards the end of the video... These are what I decided on for the truck
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Okay I am passing out! I've been posting for several hours!
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All the pics of the bed being painted and dog house too are in the last several pages.... There is a lot so you'll just have to scroll through....
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The radiator on the dog house as it is will be replaced with a larger made for a big block more efficient cooling radiator that has two electric fans attached to it to help keep the big chevy cool and not running hot.... Especially when I'm going up these mountain passes and hard winding roads ....also will have a belt driven to add to the cooling capability of the truck
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Nice work on the bed and dog house....
Looks like a beautiful place to live. Great pics!
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Thanks Minus I appreciate it..... Yeah we are blessed to be living where we are living.... We are not wealthy or upper class by any means I assure you lol.... We just lucked out with this house... Definitely God given......
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My wife and I and also my folks had a come to terms meeting last night... I won't discuss all that was said but... In short.... Once I pick up the motor I am on my own.... The driveshafts still need to be custom fitted to the truck.... And the exhaust welded up... Oh and fuel lines.... And a few other things.... This is the last of the Mohicans for me....truck either gets done and put together or my wife is going to be beyond upset and disappointed.... So... After the engine is paid for in its entirety at the machine shop..... ( already paid a arm and a leg and still owe ) this week it will be paid for.... I'm a disabled stay at home dad of three children... My wife is the sole bread winner and my folks helped fund this project....I sold off my brand new 2014 6x12 enclosed trailer and most of all the hunting fishing and camping gear stored inside it.... Which totaled a grotest number..... And put it directly in the truck in parts etc .... And my folks have put in quite a bit.... More.... I've put in half of what they have put in... Easy ..... This project with labor now totals ......... And I still have driveshafts.... Fuel lines.... Fuel hoses..... Gas tank to flush out as if it was biohazard ... The exhaust to be welded up.... Several joints and bushings to replace.... Your starting to get the picture? And my wife and I don't have any extra at the end of each month if you catch my drift here.... Sooooooo...... I would really like to complete this truck SOON........ My wife is debating allowing me to sell her truck I bought for her that is in my name still... the dodge ram 1500 4x4. 5.9l v-8 that has lost more than half it power :( 184k miles....to help pay and finish my truck flat out in its entirety .... Very grateful and thoughtful thing for her to offer.....This thought last night was brought up because we as a family are inheriting a SUV that is 4 wheel drive, is a v-6, will get better gas mileage by far than her truck, is more reliable... Has been maintained and taking care of very well.... And will be much more reliable... Safer all around... Dependable.... Can haul our family efficiently...in snow, rain, fog etc up and down the mountain passes..... Which is a concern on where we are at vehicle wise... Now that being said.... Even though this SUV will be titled and registered in my name ,,, I am going to let my sweetheart drive it everyday as her vehicle because she honestly needs it to use everyday.... She has a 1996 Acura tl 5 cylinder 4 door with 214k miles..... We are debating selling both and using any extra money to pay ahead on bills or get things we need,,, in my mind that is guns and ammo :-) lol.... Anyways ... This truck I have... The chevy ,.,, isn't just any truck,,,, it's a built over the top through and through beefy truck from the bottom up,,, 1 ton axles.... Dana 60, Dana 70, new suspension... Frame restoration, bed and body restored mostly in its entirety,, almost everything has been replaced,, fully built to the hilt bored out 454 that is a full roller , forged internals motor... Except for the pistons, they have forged numbers stamped into them but have casting marks.... New this new that etc etc etc... So I'd lose all kinds of money selling the truck, like thousands and thousands of dollars... A ridiculous amount of time and effort too.... And this is the last truck I will ever build, I've always wanted a hot rod truck....and a Chevrolet at that.... Well now I have it , I'm very against selling it... Why do that? If I sell it, then it back at square one with an old truck with high mileage and no dough to do costly repairs when it breaks.... I don't know if I should sell both vehicles, her car, the dodge 4x4, and she has her SUV as to drive as our family car and I as the hubby have my man truck to drive.... Or sell just one and try to finish it... I don't know.... I would like ideas, suggestions, thoughts, opinions , to improvise on this situation and have a win win situation for both my wife and myself.... Anyone who has read this post ,,,, post your thoughts ideas and opinions up.... Please.... Just keep me coming.... I don't ask my wife for things to buy for myself, this is my baby and project and I'm right at being done nearly, aside from a bunch of parts to install and work to do.... I could be looking at 1000 dollars to complete the truck,,,, after the engine is paid for,, still.......... Anyways.... Fellas,,,, feel free to drop on some encouragement and hope,,,, I've sold off everything I had to keep this truck being built like a hoss of iron, now I'm risking a long unsure completion date, or selling it... It will take 2 months easy ,,, to finish,,, even if I worked out in everyday,,, that would leave us with one vehicle if we sold both of them.... So guys brainstorm and help me out here.... Thanks so much ,,,,, Andrew
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I'm not selling this truck........ I just need ideas to finish it....
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Ashley and I discussed selling our 99 4runner after my truck is finished. After a few long talks we both decided to keep the "yota". The plan was for my truck is to be a 3rd vehicle anyway. To be honest the yota is paid off and after hitting a deer last winter what I could get out of it really isn't that much. Plus with her going back to school to get her RN degree I really like the idea of having a spare vehicle. If something were to happen to the yota or her car (04 escape) I could drive the truck and she would still have a way to school and work. If it were just the two of us then having a spare wouldn't be a big priority. Having a 5yr old changes that.
I guess I'm just saying that ultimately you have to put your family first (not that you aren't). You could sale the car or truck and see how close that gets you? But for me, I couldn't go down to one vehicle. The only way I would is if I needed the money to keep a roof over our head and food on the table. I know a bit dramatic but you get my point. Maybe selling one car will do the trick? Maybe not? You may have to finish what you can and put a hold on the project until spring?
Have a nice long chat with your wife and see what she thinks. I know together you will make the best decision possible. Anyway...I hope everything works out.
Just my 2 cents which is only worth about half of that.
Take care,
Eric
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Minus thanks so much for the input, advice, and the 4runner story... I agree with what you said.... She agrees too that just ONE truck is NOT ENOUGH AND ISNT A GOOD IDEA EITHER... WE will keep the dodger ram 1500 4x4 and sell HER car to create enough funds to finish off my truck...I haven't asked her for a dime of hers that I can think of, during this whole build process, but if it wasn't for selling her car there is no way I could complete it,,,, unless I waited for tax return season.... So she will drive the new SUV as her main transportation. She will have her Dodge Ram 4x4 to drive when she wishes, I'll drive it every so often just here and there, to keep the rubber seals lubricated and truck "used" to being driven so it doesn't just sit and "rust" or dry rot the tires etc... That would be horrible , those tires are nice and are not cheap.... They are Goodyear wrangler mud terrain duratrac's.... The truck needs the front end rebuilt with all new bushings , tie rod ends, steering stabilizer and maybe a few other things, won't know until we actually get to working on it, but anyways, this Dodge of ours we truly need and like the truck and we are needing 300 to 500 in parts alone in it just for the front end. To fully rebuild the front end. It also needs an alignment. And my worry is wearing the tread down on the tires. Which it already has... Tires are about 80 to 85 percent of what they were... So I want to save them as much as possible....and help this truck last....
My truck will be worked on in my spare time as much as possible to finish it out by our first snowfall here in the front range Rocky mountains of Colorado... There's always something to do , replace or fix on the truck it seems like, I'm a all or nothing kind of guy when it comes to some things, especially caring for vehicles, I'm no pro at all, but I do my best with what I have to keep them running decent... My biggest concern now is the exhaust actually .... It is dual flowmaster super 10's...... Thinking about sending back and getting the super 44's..... I don't know... Just don't want to be ticking cops off. The super 10's from flowmaster is as close as someone can get to running open headers.... The test was done on a 350 small block..... And was pretty gnarly sounding... So I'm very curious and concerned about how it will be with my engine.... I am picking up the motor from the machine shop next week! They had to order a proper dip stick for the bigger pan... There was 15 hours of work just in the cylinder heads! That is a ton. The shop owner said the last motor he built he had a TON of time into the heads , he said he had twelve hours into the heads alone in MACHINE WORK in itself! said he didn't want to do that again anytime soon because it puts his shop behind on work... He and jay his senior guy in the shop built this motor. And had 15 hours just in machine work on the heads..... Said this should of been a $4500 dollar build at their shop in work....... But they cut me a HUGE BREAK..... definitely have been blessed by these guys.... They cut me breaks on every single labor charge........Anyways..., so the motor will be picked up next week and put in sometime by myself.... Not sure when exactly ..... Or how long it will take me... I'm a slow methodical worker....i will have the specs and data sheet when I pick the motor up... They're saying it's going to be a monster should run really well and strong....IM HOPING..............we will see....... Nervous about a few things... Like break in.... Dialing in the distributor which IM NOT FAMILIAR WITH AT ALL.........as well as dialing in the carb.... They are setting it up so it will be a drop in turn key motor, but I have all the tuning to do, I'll be flat out honest, I know cummins diesels, but not so much these old school engines, carbs, distributors, timing, etc like some here on this site do.... I will need peoples help on here for sure.... I don't want any accidental mishaps happening....at some point I want to replace all the wiring in the truck for reliability and updating it completely.... Would be nice to replace a few things in and around the transmission and t-case..... Lol I need to just get DONE with the truck as time goes by address other concerns etc..... Jeez... This is what happens when you think too much on your truck loooool..... I need this, I need that, I should replace this , I should rebuild that.... Etc etc etc.... Lol man.... I just need to get her running guys.....We will see when that happens ................As for now here is the build list at the shop.....
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The grand total is for the machine shop work which was 2000 less than it should of been..... I will add everything up as that number for the shop will probably change.... It's more like 2800.... Seriously.... $2767.00 and some change.... And counting at the shop....
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Forgot to mention. A magnetic drain plug was added to catch the extra debris and metal shavings I will have...
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They installed oil and an oil filter so I actually have an entire oil change and extra oil filter to use on the truck....
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Plus joe Gibbs break in fluid which I need to sell here in colorado to help out a bit....would be nice if the company would swap me out for 10w40 like I have already and then have two cases of the oil instead of break in oil and 10w40 oil.... But we will see what happens with that break in oil
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The dip stick acquired for the deeper truck oil pan is actually a General Motors dip stick! EXPENSIVE! Jeez.... It was almost $49.00 dollars! It was like $48.78! Just for a proper oil dip stick! I was like jeez that's steep...........
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And the valve covers........ Man with baffles and ports they were $160.00... !
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No wonder Proform parts doesn't post a price for their valve covers., because they are outrageous in mullah ...... Why can't people be fair on prices in our generation and not charge an arm and a leg?
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I have a serious issue on my hands.... I have brand spanking new Hancook Dynapro mud terrain tires. 33x12.50R16,,,, I'm going to be needing 36" tires......... Grrreeeeaaatttt.... Hmmmm.... Any ideas guys..... They are LITERALLY BRAND NEW....... They are going to be too small.....
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My tires will work but won't look and act proportionate to the truck..... Man I always get ahead of myself and get in a bind seems like somehow someway....
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35's would be perfect ...... I will take some pictures once the body is mounted back on.... Hopefully it will look proportionate.........
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Man I can't wait until this bad boy is finished. If my 33's weren't brand new I would buy yours. If I ever make it to Colorado I'm buying the beers!
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Thanks Minus! Man too back that they are new! Lol we could of went through the online classifieds here on the forum! I can't wait until it's done too ,,, seriously.... I'm facing opposition through my other half right now..... Always something..... She will be driving a 2006 Hyundai sante fe, and her dodge 1500 4x4,,,,, is that not enough to make just about anyone happy?! The only thing that is all exclusive to me and my only ride is my truck being built.... Her truck gets horrible gas mileage... Willing to bet my big block chevy will get the same mileage her is getting... It is really a gas hog,,, the dodge...... Anyways.... I've sold off everything I own except for the things I absolutely will not part with... I will post what all was sold to keep this truck going.... It's an INSANE LIST and exactly to a T how much it cost to build.... Which totals a grotest number...... Could of purchased two rebuilt restored big block chevy trucks for how much I've spent and my folks too, so selling it would be absolutely stupid, dumb, ignorant , etc etc etc.... So I can't understand why my other half doesn't get the picture...... It's aggravating.... Anyways.... I sold my 2007 Toyota tundra 5.7l 4x4 club cab to get us into this house , bought her a good truck, bought the best tires money could buy for her, then bought myself a junker, sold the junker, paid bills, bought the chevy on the last dollars I had, traded a few dear things of mine for it too.... And since then "cleaned house " on pretty much everything... Sold off this and that , to keep this truck going along and heading in a good direction, being built through and through kind of direction which I felt it needed.... And so the word can't afford , selling it, etc doesn't sit well at all with me because I haven't taken a dime from my wife for anything on my truck..... So I don't see what the big deal is? Anyways.... Going off on a tangent here..... It won't be driven until every last thing is in order on the truck and everything that needs to be done is done.... Which is a lot,,,, but ,,,, hopefully this winter I will finish it.... We will see..... Cross your fingers and pray for me! And if you ever make it out here to colorado we will go camping in the mountains and take the chevy along ! You bring the beer! Haha
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FearNoMan, I have followed your build pretty closely. You are on the right path with your truck. I almost went the same path with my 1979 long bed when I had to build the motor the last time. I stayed with the small block. I have always said "Big Blocks equal Big Bucks". There is no cheap parts on a Big Block Chevy. You are doing the same thing that a guy that I knew did back in 1990. I will tell you that story via PM if you are interested.
Keep the faith and take it one step at a time. You will get there.
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Thanks Don,,, I appreciate it...I've tried to keep it going without affecting my family... That's the biggest thing...my wife's happiness is most important to me...... It may not seem like it... But I have put everything on the backburner since the start of this build until now.... Everything put into this truck I've sold what I myself owned to keep it going and also to keep me from asking my wife for a dime....Fixing my wife's car or my wife's truck at times is priority uno and there has come a point though even though I've put her first throughout all of this and my 3 children and I've kept her funds completely out of this project / build ... That she is not that enthused or excited over it for a few reasons... Gas mileage... Cost of the build.. Time spent into it... Length of time it's taken... Where I'm at with it and how much I still have left.....time wise and financially... So those reasons have kept her from enjoying this project or wanting to know progress.... To me... It's not worth the cost it has costed me with her feelings on it.... And 2nd financially too... My gosh I could of bought 3 brand new crate motors and 3 used decent trucks.... For how much has been put into this .... So.... I mean yeah it will be built much better than a crate motor and through and through on the truck but dang I wish It was not only done but winter is now approaching.....
That means cold weather, snow, wind, hail, freezing temperatures .... Hard to work in type of weather. And it's right at our doorstep here where we live.... I don't know how long or what I'll be able to accomplish in the coming months..... Things have slowed down on progress because of finances and time has become shorter so I can't just leave my family hanging and go work on the truck for hours and hours... So I'm trying to keep a simple mindset of timeframe and cost and not make myself feel like there is a certain timeframe I have to get it done by or a certain dollar amount I still need to put into it.... I'm just trying not to think of those factors, take one day at a time.... And keeping the mindset of don't expect anything to get done... So I'm just going to kick my feet up on the truck project and enjoy whatever I'm able to get done on it.... I'm still trying to rebuild replace everything on it...I thought it would be done by end of May but boy was I wrong on that. Here it is the middle of September ..... Lol.... So at this point..... There's no rush.... I doubt I'll have it done by thanksgiving so I'm not sweating it anymore... I got too wrapped up in it... I have 90 percent of all the parts, motor is finished being built in its entirety besides fuel lines and things like that... The new Dana 60 and 70 axles are installed...new Suspension installed, frame restored, body sanded and painted... So honestly... This slowing down has actually helped me clear my head on it.... I realized I was putting too much thought, too much money, too much focus on the truck in my off time.... And now that pretty much everything is done it just needs assembled ,,, I'll try to do one thing at a time.
Starting with getting the big block installed correctly and smoothly.... After the transmission housing is cleaned thoroughly.... Then the dog house will get installed after MANY things in the engine bay are squared away and taken care of, then after new fuel lines and hoses are installed , the gas tank is thoroughly flushed And cleaned out. Axles have new drive shafts, u joints are replaced, and everything is in order, the bed will be mounted on the frame. Then the wiring in the cab will be gone through and replaced... Gauges hooked up, interior will be gone through... I need rims for the truck for the street/ mountains. These rims were just for the project.... I have a plethora of parts to correctly install... Exhaust needs mounted on and welded in place... There's so much to do that it's discouraging.... Thinking of it in stages makes it easier... Seems thinking of it in stages helps to know its possible to get it done the way I'm wanting it to get done... Building things in my mind,,, start from the foundation and work myself up to the roof replacing pretty much everything, that's what I'm doing here with this truck,,, last truck I'm building and driving and I want it to be built through and through.... I do have one big dilemma though....
I am a stay at home dad, watch after three children, cook, clean, maintain the house and vehicles kind of dad. I don't work... And my wife says she isn't putting gas in my truck I built .... Period.... End of story..... Lol... She's dead serious about it too.... So we will see what happens with that... So here all this time and money go into it, build it through and through, and when it's finally complete there won't be so much as a drop of gas to go into it.... Lol wow,,, what have I got myself into by building it the way I did..... I big cluster of a mess,,, should of built a motor on the side, kept the 305 in it, drove it until she dropped out on me, all the meanwhile accumulating 1 ton axles, suspension, parts, rebuilding a big block on the side, getting everything I needed, then next summer replace everything under the sun... Instead of being with a truck of my own since February until now and who knows how long it will be until I'm actually done with it and then driving it... I'm going to have to get creative on how I'm going to put gas into it when it IS done,,, finally .... So any thoughts or comments would be much appreciated.... And yes I'd love to hear that story about that guy you knew back in 1990 that did the same thing. Feel free to post on it my build thread I have for this truck since it's similar, if not I would love to read about in a PM sent to me... So your 79' long bed small block build,,, tell me about that, would you? .... I'm trying to keep my eyes on a Jesus first, my wife second, my children third, and my truck last.... JESUS IS COMING BACK............ by the way guys just so everyone is brought into the open on that. We are living in the end days..... it will be in our lifetime, this generation.... So those of you who don't know Jesus as your Lord and savior. Send me a personal message or post on the thread and I will help steer you in the right direction, you can even drop me your phone number and I'll talk with you. If you haven't accepted him into your life, I promise you your heart and life will change forever.... Even after your death here on earth.... Jesus is eternal, and so is the gift of life he gives us when we accept and follow him.....
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And my wife says she isn't putting gas in my truck I built
well use her word against her and get a diesel then you could say "but hnny you said you wouldnt put a drop of gas into her/ this isnt gas this is fuel"
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Lool yeah no kidding I'd be willing to bet she would be shocked, and laughing so hard she would put the fuel in without question lol
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I'm locked out of the chevy site .... My wife was using my iPad and exited out of all the tabs I had going because she just wanted to start fresh tabs.. Well no big deal except it logged me out and I can't remember my password! So I'm logged into tapatalk and have the forum here, but my old email addresses I am locked out of. My email address is FearNoMan0118@yahoo.com.... I need help getting back in
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Oh No. :oWhat a way to start your week. I guess you didn't get my PM then?
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Hang in there bud I'm sure she'll come around. If not I'll pitch in for your first tank.
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Yeah I know right ? Don I received your PM and then lost it due to the wife logging me out... Please POST it here if you feel comfortable with that.... No one has contacted me on logging back in and helping me out... I'm logged into tapatalk but logged out of our chevy forum website. Which is literally my favorite website to go to... Thanks for taking the time to send that long PM ..... If you could copy and paste it here that would be GREAT!
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Thanks minus! I appreciate it! Lol I hope I don't have to have that happen :-) that's really kind of you buddy that's above and beyond what anyone would normally do.... Hey Minus, I'm picking up the motor today in a couple hours!!!!
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SAWEEEET!!! Can't wait to see pics on that bad boy.. 8)
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Tapatalk should be using the same ID information that you are using. If you are posting, you aren't locked out.
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Captkaos I cannot remember my password to log in to the chevy site... I can't see personal messages or view the site as a member at all. Just as a guest...Please help me....
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Yeah buddy! Minus I have a few things to do but I picked it up today !!! Oh my gosh it is awesome! And really heavy lol jeez .... Stay tuned for the pics!!!
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Captkaos... I don't even know the password to the tapatalk that I'm using... Anyway we can reset my password on the chevy forum?
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I'm a pretty forget person.... My emails I'm locked out of.... I think they were hacked... Microsoft still hasn't gotten back to me....
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Okay so here are some pictures of the much awaited big block build! Now to just let everyone know.... MOST.... Of the money went to internal parts and machine work out the ying yang.... More pictures to come after the headers are installed, and engine is finalized,,, then installed in the truck.... :-) I've waited a long time for this day .....and it has come! I was like a kid on his birthday getting his first bike to ride up and down the road! There is a lot of details... Way too many to list tonight. Tonight is a family night so I'm short on time.. Fact I'm killing two birds with one stone in the bathroom here about to hop in the shower... Takes me awhile to post things... I'll post up the specs of the build,.. What was done,,, and all the internals put into the engine etc... Perhaps tomorrow... I'm not exactly sure.... I have a pretty full day of things to do tomorrow around the house both inside and out... So it's going to take awhile to post up a detailed post of what was done to the outside and inside of this motor, both machine work wise, and parts...I'm not done... Still have a ways to go on the truck,,, but it's coming together I can just feel it! Can't wait to feel the rumble! Anyways I gotta go for tonight! Thanks for all the support guys! The truck is nearly done and there... Just a couple months and it should be ready to rock and roll... First engine run should happen in a few weeks. I'm leaving to go hunting this Saturday morning and returning the following weekend ... Perhaps Sunday evening... Not exactly sure yet... Pray for us,.. It's a father and son hunting trip,, with my injuries it hasn't happened in a solid long 8 years ! I just want to spend some good time with my dad and make some memories....well guys... I'll try to get on tomorrow to post some info up...
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oh yes 8)
looks great dude
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since you don't have gas money I'll let you store that engine in my truck for awhile.... ;)
Great looking engine bud
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That is one good looking engine! I love the Chevy orange! ;D Christmas is here! ;D
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Thanks '77 I appreciate it
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It's okay minus I'll figure something out I don't think that's necessary lol ")
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I'll just sell a kidney ,,,,, to pay for fuel.... That's all....
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Then I could afford to drive it a lifetime without worries :)
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Thanks Don it's much appreciated! Glad you like the chevy orange :-) yes it came a bit early for me this year but oh yes that is for sure! That is a big heavy present and even comes with three bow ties ") haha!
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Don copy and paste the story here on the build since I'm not getting help on logging back into the site... I will try password after password I guess until I get it right, I have no clue what my password is and my emails I'm locked out of except my yahoo account I created a couple months ago
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Anyone own a gas station near by that would want to fuel this thirsty pig a couple times a month free ? :-) loool
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Even a fuel discount would be good stuff!
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No updates on specs for the engine today , or work and parts put into it... I've had a LONG day.... I'm exhausted....
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Are there any Kroger's food stores or Speedway gas stations out there? They offer a fuel discounts. Kroger's is much better because they offer more discounts if you shop there.
I would copy and paste the story but I did not save it! :o >:( I know what you are going through with the password problems. I started writing mine down on post it notes! ;D
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It's okay minus I'll figure something out I don't think that's necessary lol ")
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I just here to offer solutions bud....
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Lol that solution is like this :-) ....... Hey can I have my motor back now? ,,,,, ummm well I lost the key to the lock and chain and don't have any bolt cutters... How much power did you say this thing had? My truck's transmission and driveshafts broke so I have to rebuild them.... Ummm go yeah and the motor mounts are welded to the frame and the engine with a bracket to make sure when I borrowed it, the motor would stay in the engine bay and not run away. I don't know what to tell you Andrew, Houston we have a problem... I'll also be changing my phone number and address too here soon, thanks for the motor buddy :-) THE END
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Don....Yes king soopers and Kroger are both here and they have great fuel discount options through buying food.well I hope I can log back in...... Eventually,.... If they help me reset my password....I will post it here for sure Don!
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I also think I would be buying cans of 106 Octane boost by the case. ;D ;D ;D Just a thought.. BTW-I can't wait to see a video of this thing idling out in your driveway!
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Lol yeah after the piston rings seat and motor breaks in really well i may seriously pick up a case and make a few tank fuels of it.... Kinda freaks me out thinking of that though,, this thing is going to have ENOUGH power already as it is! Lol I can't wait to have it idling out of the driveway too... I'm so looking forward to it! Don't know when that will be though....... I need fuel lines, coolant hoses, fuel tank flushed out, fuel tank hoses, driveshafts rebuilt, etc etc,,,, soooo..... I have no earthly idea when this truck will be driving down the road,,,,, I just got back from a week elk bow hunting trip with my dad, good times for sure.... Exhausted and relaxing with my family now
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So the engine mounts I'm taking care of tomorrow! I'm picking some up in the city... Hopefully they will work.....
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And finally.......the engine is getting put in next week, I will be putting some long hours in next week squaring the engine away, installing it, mounting the dog house, new radiator with dual fans , among other things, breaking the engine in without breaking it haha and changing fluids ,,, then tuning it, then bolting down everything else, here soon will get the driveshafts rebuilt,,,, replace brakes and bearings , seals in both axles, then fluids for the entire truck, then off she goes to home finally ! I will mount the bed on here at the house once it arrives... Then fix the driveshafts.... Then finally be driving it
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Great news bud...Hope the install goes well.
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It sounds like a pretty good plan. I hope all goes well and I can't wait to see and hear it! ;D
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Thanks Eric and Don I appreciate it
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I'm worried something is going to happen...... Like ie,,, something go wrong when breaking in the motor or shortly after but that is me being OCD I think.... I hope
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I'm worried something is going to happen...... Like ie,,, something go wrong when breaking in the motor or shortly after but that is me being OCD I think.... I hope
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That happens to everyone when they first start their engine. There is always a little doubt. Having said that, here is what happened to me one time.
I just put the engine together, installed it and started it. I had been down to the local parts store buying parts for it so the guys knew I was close to being done. I went in the store on the afternoon right before I started the engine to buy a new thermostat. The guy that sold it to me wanted to come up and watch. I gave him directions and he shows up. I start the engine, run it up to 2000 RPM and note the time. I was going to let it run for 30 minutes to break it in. About 5 or 10 minutes in the headers start to smoke and turn color. Hmm. I go back and look inside at the temp gage. It was over 220 degrees. :o The thermostat was stuck shut! I turned the engine off. The guy says to me " Come in tomorrow and I will replace it". ;D Yeah I was not happy but what can you do? ::)
Moral of the story is this. After you set the idle speed up, get back in the truck and watch the gages! :) Now this is a prime example of the luck that I have had.
You would really have a long good laugh at my expense if I told you some of the things that happened to me when I drove the truck every day to work. WTH- I will tell you guys so you can laugh.
Ignition module breaks (twice). First time in the middle of the night on a bridge! :o I did not have a spare but the second time I did. I strongly suggest you have a spare one in the glove box! ;D
Accelerator cable breaks while on a first date with a girl-who has that happen to them? There was no second date as I figured my truck hated her. It was protesting. ;D
I was at the parts store and the same guy is outside. He asks me to crank the truck up . So I crank the truck up. The seal in the back of the water pump blows out and starts to dump about a gallon of green antifreeze on the parking lot. :o I jump in and drive it home right then. Luckily I lived close enough that it did not overheat. I go back to get another pump and they give me 3 containers of antifreeze free. Who has that happen to them?
Brake line breaks during a snowstorm which is classified as a level 2 emergency. Again -on a date with a girl and 25 miles from home back up on a very tall ridge. Talk about exciting. Try driving in that. Yeah that relationship didn't last long either. ;D
It got to the point that I figured that if I went out on a date, I could plan on working on the truck the next day. I ended up marrying the one girl that the truck did not break down on. ;D Here is the kicker though. She told me that after we got married she never rode in the truck again because I parked it. Now my son is wanting to drive it. I can't wait until it is fixed up and he starts dating in it. I bet it will be some good stories and a couple of late night phone calls about the truck breaking down! ;D OK so much for the free entertainment I am done. Feel free to laugh with me because I am laughing right now. I wasn't back then but I am now. :) Yeah I love the good old days.......
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That is such a funny story and life experience with that truck Don! Thanks for sharing that with me!
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Hey guys I need your help!
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So it's a 78 k10 4x4 Had a small block 305 in it.... Putting a big block 454 in it. Running into a big problem. The motor mounts on a big block are just a hair too big and stretch past the bolt holes... The small block motor mounts line right up. Only problem is that the brackets I would need I don't have... Someone help me out here,,, I need brackets that will work with this big block... It's a 73 high performance passenger car engine big block. I need to get this motor in ASAP .... Please tell me exactly what to do here... I'm stuck on this...
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I need help guys!
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Need brackets.... But which ones for the 454 will work with a 350 small block motor mount?
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Staff members please help me out here.... I need advice guys
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It's ready to go in but I need motor mounts, brackets, etc,,, please help me
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Still lots of cleaning to do ! LOTS OF CLEANING.......... I have my work cut out for me.... Clean transmission inside and out, clean transfer case ,,,, I cleaned the bell housing already but still have a bit more cleaning to do....... The transfer case is leaking :( I need to fix that.... It's a SMALL leak but still,,,, I need the fix it..... I need to sand and paint the axles soon along with sand and paint the frame under the cab that I missed..... Also the front driveshaft to sand and paint . Rear sand and paint a bit more..... And anything else I want to clean sand and paint it ..... The axles are going to be a nightmare to do it by hand without sandblasting them...... I'm ordering fuel lines, fuel fittings and fuel hoses for the Holley 830 4 barrel double pumper today from summit racing.... I also need a thermostat housing cover..... And coolant lines..... Gas tank fuel hoses as well..... And the positive and negative battery cables will be replaced as well, I need a heater core! That is shot and so needs replacing ....I've got to figure the exhaust out even though I have the piping, then needs welded up.... But finding a straight adapter kit from swapping a small block to a big block will be the hard and expensive part.... I spent 3 and a half hours solid on the phone today researching ordering etc... I have the fuel filter, fuel pressure regulator, fuel fittings, fuel rails, fuel lines, ordered and on their way tomorrow,,,, I need to order some fly wheel and clutch bolts tomorrow as well, and pick up another grade 8 nut and log washer as it cross threaded on the top plate mounting bolt stud that screws in the axle, so a machinist will be making a complete new one tomorrow for the truck.... There's seemingly always another part or something to replace or buy to upgrade to the parts I put on every time I turn around and work on the truck.... Trying to keep things going as smoothly as possible.... Jeez,,,, gosh this has been a INSANELY. Expensive ,,, long and drawn out, replace this upgrade that type of project/build.... I truly can't wait until it's finished,,,,
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It's looking pretty good so far. The main thing is the engine is HOME finally.
As far as cleaning the frame and frontend, I used a drill with a wire brush to get as much of it off as I could. Since mine was and is going to be again a daily driver, I brushed gloss black rustoleum paint on everything. I used it on my driveshafts, inner fenders, leaf springs, etc... It lasts a lot longer than the spray paint because it goes on thicker. It is not as quick as spray paint though.
You will get there. I always say "well I am further along than what I was last week". ;D
What clutch, pressure plate are you going to for this engine?
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That's true Don. Thanks I appreciate it ... A Hays heavy duty clutch set up... And a heavy duty flywheel.... I'll post product numbers when I can.... I hope they will hold for a long time ...
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Chevy community I need help with the motor mounts and brackets / frame mounts / bolt hole setup to mount the engine in... Can you help me please..... I asked for help earlier in my posts but didn't get any advice.... Reach out guys and help me
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Wish I could help bud but most days I struggle to get my shoes on the correct foot..lol
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What do you need help on as far as motor mounts? Just put the SBC ones on there. You might have to address the fan shroud, but K10 never had BBC's in them.
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What do you need help on as far as motor mounts? Just put the SBC ones on there. You might have to address the fan shroud, but K10 never had BBC's in them.
^What he said. I never had a big block in my truck but I was thinking that the motor mounts are the same. I could be wrong. I admit it that I am not sure. But I do know that K10's never had a BB unless the owner put it in.
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Agree. I know that they never came with a big block..... But I'm having a hard time finding gone engine brackets.... If I ggo with a 350 small block bracket setup I have heard the headers won't clear? Among have g trouble with other things as well? The k30 had a big block in it for only a few years. I picked up k30 motor mounts and the bolt holes did not line up on the bottom frame mount bolt holes, it stretched past a 1/4" at least I'd say.... I can get the motor mounts but the brackets are hard to come by for some reason here in Colorado Springs ... And the big block brackets are near impossible to find .... So should I just order motor mounts and brackets from summit for a 77 or 78 chevy 350 small block ? What differences are there with the big block mounts / brackets ?
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I need to know what year what engine etc will bolt directly up to my frame and engine brackets... Big block motor mounts won't fit... Could I use small block motor mounts and big block engine brackets?
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Help me out here guys.... I know this May seem like a simple no brainer for some but I am truly STUCK.... I don't know what exactly would be direct bolt on? My frame mounts have 3 bolt holes to hold the motor mount but the motor mounts have 4 on the small block motor mounts and 6 on the big block mounts.... The engine brackets should all be the same for the big block? 2 hoes on top one on the bottom? Like an upside down triangle....... Guys I know it may seem simple but I'm scratching my head here after several trips back and forth to local parts stores.... I don't understand what is so difficult about it? It should be nearly a direct bolt on replacement engine swap........ Right guys?
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1973 big block 454.... 1978 k10 4x4..... 305 small block removed. Ready to install the big block.... What mounts / frame mounts/ engine brackets do I need from what year/model truck to make this a direct bolt on fit? The parts stores are staring at me like they've never heard of this before... Help me out chevy brothers
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K30 BBC mounts won't work on a K10 the frames are different.
Your ONLY option is to use SBC mounts that came on the truck and sort out the issues. Again. There are no BBC mounts for a K series 1/2 truck so they aren't "hard" to find, they are impossible to find as they were never made.
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K30 BBC mounts won't work on a K10 the frames are different.
Your ONLY option is to use SBC mounts that came on the truck and sort out the issues. Again. There are no BBC mounts for a K series 1/2 truck so they aren't "hard" to find, they are impossible to find as they were never made.
^What he said. I know guys that have swapped in BBC engines and never had any problems other than finding pulley brackets. This should not be difficult. I would use your old engine mounts off of your 305. Then worry about the headers once you try to get them mounted.
You might have to change headers or "modify" them. BTW-Modify means "use a hammer". I have heard of guys having to smack one of the tubes a little to get it to clear frame on the driver's side I believe. They were also using long tube headers as that was the common type back then. I bet that is why companies started making short tube headers. I hope this helps.
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Okay thanks for the input Captkaos and Don.... I do not have the 305 mounts as I included them when I sold the engine..... That makes sense that the frames are different hence why I can't get them to fit and work right swapping years of the truck while using k30 mounts.... Well I will go with a SBC setup.... Just use same year mounts and brackets ? And it will bolt right up to the frame and the big block?
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Hopefully I won't have to "modify" a brand new pair of headers......
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Okay thanks for the input Captkaos and Don.... I do not have the 305 mounts as I included them when I sold the engine..... That makes sense that the frames are different hence why I can't get them to fit and work right swapping years of the truck while using k30 mounts.... Well I will go with a SBC setup.... Just use same year mounts and brackets ? And it will bolt right up to the frame and the big block?
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That is what I would do. And it should bolt up to the frame. ;) Best of luck and time to move on to the next problem..
BTW- I always used a 12 inch, three fingered heavy duty clutch in my truck. No diaphragm for me. I heard too many stories about the
fingers breaking. They might have fixed it by now but back in the day I didn't know anyone that used them in a truck that had any kind of horsepower. Just a thought.
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Dide note.... I broke 3 Borg and Beck (3 finger) setups in the late 80's and 90's before moving to a diaphragm setup behind my 454. It had comparable holding power and lasted 3 years of my 20's doing nightly weekend races... as apposed to months... And I abused this truck and the Rock crusher trans. It was rebuilt 4 times over the 10 years. The rebuilder reminded me those times there was a clutch there for a reason and I could use it just a little sometimes in situations outside of stopping and starting.
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Hmmm good advice Don thankyou..... What do you think of today's clutches from hays? We will see if I can manage to do the frame mounts with the right motor mounts and brackets and get this engine installed,,,,,,,, finally,,,,,,, Hoping it will be soon as our other truck is on it's last legs.... 183k miles, auto , dodge, v-8,,,, the truck is in great shape but mechanically could use rebuilding here and there for sure....
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So Captkaos .... If you broke that many back in the day..... Using your 454,,,,, what do you think about this clutch ? And what's your opinion on Hays clutches ? Nog worth installing if it is going to break..... I'd rather spend a tad more on a clutch if that's the case,,, although ,,,, this clutch was 300 smackers...... Ouch... So I'd hate to be spending too much more..... Maybe an extra 50 dollars..... AT MOST... If I was to return and buy a different clutch .... If they let me.....
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Here is the clutch I picked out months ago
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That is a diaphraghm clutch. That is what I used. Mine was a Zoom though.
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So is this a good one to use?
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you should be fine with it.
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Okay good Capt I'm hoping so.... Hey tell me if you see ANYTHING out of the ordinary here.....
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What do you guys think?!?!
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Tell me what you think chevy brothers!?
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What is the casting number on the heads?
And what are the brand/part number of your pistons?
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Engineer they are 781 heads... Not sure the part numbers on the pistons.... I'll have to get that soon for you...
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Those heads are a newer model year version of my 049s. Awesome heads. I put 2.19/1.88 valves in mine with bowl porting. I also polished the combustion chambers. Cleaned up the intake ports to match the gasket where it meets the intake. Amazing power. Amazing torque.
I guess it is too late to change your pistons. I am running SpeedPro H426P pistons with my 049s. They have a .100" dome on them. With the 110cc chamber that the 049/781 head has I am at about 9.6:1 compression. It is what I used as my sled puller for years and now it is going into my monster truck. When I wasn't sled pulling that engine pulled gooseneck trailers, and worked on the farm. I never had an issue with overheating or spark knock.
Your compression is going to be in the low 8s with those pistons. At your high altitude in Colorado especially, you could easily get away with the higher compression. A lot more power potential for no penalty by bumping up the compression into the 9s.
Also, if you are dropping a 454 into a truck that previously had a small block here is what you need to do..... When I did mine I used the rubber engine mounts that came with my truck. Eventually bought new ones, but the old ones worked.
HERE IS WHAT HAS TO BE CHANGED TO MAKE THE SWAP WORK CORRECTLY:
The steel, or engine side, "clam shells" must be changed to avoid your headers from hitting the frame, and to keep the fan from rubbing the bottom of the fan shroud.
Small block mounts will work but the engine sets too low in the frame in order for it to work properly. BEEN THERE DONE THAT.
Search around the internet and swap meets for GM part number 14067103. This is the steel mount used on the 454 engine from 1973 all the way up until the 2000 model year when GM quit building the GMT-400 series trucks. It is a discontinued part number but NOS parts are out there. Buy two of these. One for each side of your engine.
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Thanks for all the great advice Engineer I appreciate it..... Here are the pistons with the numbers.... I have heard they have a forged number but have casting marks....??? Something isn't right..... Help me out here..... From what the shop said.... It is going to be 10:1 compression... They said I will have to run premium gas and nothing less to have it run and work right.... I can tell you what they did to the heads if you'd like.... And motor too.... As far as exact specs .... I don't have that data....from the shop... And kinda disappointed I don't... Hey Engineer... And anyone else.... Could you help me find the parts I need online to get this motor in? GM part number 14067103... Help me... Please.... It's at a stand still at this point until I'm able to find those correct mounts.... I need the chevy community's help and yours too Engineer....
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There is NO way those flat top Pistons will give you 10:1 compression. And those pistons are cast, not forged.
As I mentioned earlier my pistons have a .100" dome and I am only at 9.3:1ish with the same heads you are using.
You are more in the 7.9:1 compression range. How do I know that? Because factory pistons for an 80s model 454 are flat tops.
You will be able to run 87 octane fuel all day long. Even towing heavy at sea level.
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Wish I could help bud. Sorry!
I wish you all the best
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Engineer, it is a 1973 engine and 1973 heads, even with all that extensive head work and motor work , you believe I'll be at that compression? Even at 8000 feet altitude with that octane fuel? Yes they have a forged number on the pistons.........but..... The pistons are cast....... Unfortunately...... I wanted to post them up here to see what you thought.... Still looking for those correct mounts.... Any help finding them would be great ,.....
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It's okay minus no worries buddy!
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Tell me what you guys think..... 1982 1 ton dually 4x4 chevy flatbed with new 30k miles small block 350, manual trans (sm465) , 75,000 total miles approximately, driver door is tan, truck is white, single cab, headlight wiring issue.... Us Forest service truck, so it's seen some use , good clutch, no leaks, far as I know, drives great runs great , with toolbox , 10 foot bed, 7 foot wide? 2500 bucks.......
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Guy who does fire mitigation for the ranch I store my wood on wants to sell it ,,, so I told him I'm very interested, so he is bringing it down next weekend .... I want to sell the 1996 dodge ram 1500 4x4 with 184k miles to buy this truck, as I need a bigger truck to haul more wood,,,, safer......
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This is what I've been doing lately with the dodge
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Not safe, not okay.......
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God is doing miraculous things in my body guys,,,,, and I have started up a firewood business! Been running it for only two months now I'd say,,, but hey you got to start somewhere,,,, only thing keeping my body doing this is The Lord
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I need a bigger heavier duty truck , manual, flatbed, 4x4, solid engine , 1 ton
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Guys.... I talked with front range camaro here in colorado , long story short, he says small block 350 mounts and brackets will bolt right up, because it's a heavy half ton, it doesn't have the ability to use big block mounts and brackets, even though Engineer says to use a certain part number, I have yet to be able to find it, I need the community's help and support on this, it's simple to some, but I want it done right the first time , this has turned into a bigger headache than what I imagined, please guys help me out here, this shouldn't be that difficult.... I call guys here in colorado and they tell me use small block stuff, big block parts won't bolt right up, then I have Engineer telling me a different thing. I believe him, to the t... But I can't find the parts, help me out here guys, I really want to get the motor in soon, and work my way from there to get it running.... Hey guys , is a Holley 830 double pumper 4 barrel carb going to run efficiently at 8000 feet? Bored out 454 with heavy headwork......manual trans,. sm465,,,, guys I am not a know it all, but need some major help, engineer, I know you already posted on this issue, have patience with me, help me find these parts, I'm at a utter standstill, stuck, no progress with this,,,, I want to be driving this truck, not stuck on this
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Found motor mounts and brackets. Had them ordered in to a shop in denver colorado and they will be shipping out today or tomorrow. Expensive little pieces to the puzzle.... So hopefully soon the motor will finally be dropped in! And then the truck will be towed to a driveline shop to have the driveshafts built. After that new tires will be added on along with offset rims to make it a dually since it already has a dually rear end . Making it a dually will stabilize the truck hailing loads being lifted. And I am going to post my truck bed I've worked so hard on sanding and painting etc in the classified section of the forum. Whenever the administration will reset my password, tapatalk is the only way I can post. I haven't logged into the chevy site in a long time because of this issue. I have decided to put a new flatbed on the truck and install tool boxes and a few other things underneath it. And hopefully a hydraulic dump kit early this upcoming year. Still lots to do on the truck, hoping that soon enough it will be drive able.... I'm going to need a few suspension / steering parts up front on the truck, an alignment, need rock sliders and bumper / winch for front, and winch mounted at the head of the flatbed, I'm turning it into a full blown work truck. The dodge I'm driving is a 1500 with almost 200k miles of hard use and abuse, I have a serious need for a outfitted built to work truck. Anyways, hoping the chevy will be mostly Done by January 1st. We will just have to see, time is a major issue I'm working with, and funds too, it's going to cost quite a bit to get the truck to where I need it to be
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A dually... :o O'boy I can't wait to see that. She's going to be one bad @ss truck when your finished.
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Yeah a dually lol , it should be a tank, I'm hoping so.... I found a guy to create a custom flatbed in town with tool boxes on each side underneath for a reasonable price considering ordering one. it won't be 8'6 long , more like 7'6", he has to take some measurements first though, I want it to be 7' feet wide and 7'6" long. Tool boxes to store saws, equipment ,fuel cans and oil for equipment, two for chains and rope, and a winch mount on the headboard, and integrated bumper, small 2 foot and 4 foot removable sides for different hauling jobs. Eventually have a hydraulic press installed and a lift gate would be sweet, front bumper made with winch and lights in the future...
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Hopefully it will be finished by February lol
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This truck will be fully re-done. Everything that needs replaced or upgraded has been, there is a few things left to do, nothing too major, certainly will need a second fuel tank to keep the big block fed with fuel, frame will get strengthened in areas to hold extra weight and stress
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The big block is FINALLY installed!!! I have grainy pictures but I will post more when I'm able to. What a long time it has been since an engine was in this truck. At last the motor is in , bolted down and getting dressed up and ready to run soon , transmission needs to be hooked up and all the accessories to the engine , then it will be primed and test fired. Hopefully it turns over and roars to life without headache. Getting closer and closer to being done! I will have to wait on the flatbed until early 2015 but I'm pumped to finally be finishing it!
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SAWEEEEEET!!!!!! Glad you finally have the engine in place.
If you are looking for a second tank I ordered mine from rock auto. They had the best price including shipping. If you need brackets w/straps I have a set I'll give you (free). I gave them a quick coat of primer and black paint but might need touched up a bit. They should fit your frame. Let me know if you need them.
I need to put together another update on my truck but just haven't had the time. Hopefully this week I can post something and some more pics. Maybe even a video if I can figure out how..
Take care,
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Thanks Eric! I appreciate it! I'm glad too that's for sure it's been a long time coming! Eric that would be epic, I will take you up on that because I am definitely adding a second fuel tank.... What size fuel tank are the brackets for? I'll order a tank from rock auto then. What has been done to your truck lately? Haven't seen too many updates from ya buddy, life must be busy for you .... I hope you and your lady are doing well in life :-) Now your talking,,, getting a video up would be saaaweeet.......
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I'll have more pictures here soon guys that are detailed pics
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Well I had the dog house and hood FINALLY and I mean F-I-N-A-L-L-Y towed to where the truck is at from our home in the mountains. Towed all the way down the pass and to the south side of the city where the shop is located! So the dog house made it there safely along with the hood! Praise The Lord ! tomorrow the body parts will start getting installed to finalize the truck! I'd say a couple weeks at this rate of moving forward and it ought to be near finished guys!
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This hood is going to take days of buffing and waxing with TLC to bring out a shine ...... It needs a lot of love,,,, yes I know I know I've had lots of time to do this since it's been so long but I just wasn't able to get to it with life pulling me in every direction.... Soo that will be a priority once it's mounted on the truck!
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Just PM me your address and I'll get them shipped out as soon as I can. Hopefully they will work for you. If not just do me a favor and pay it forward...
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I can't log into the chevy forum...... I forgot my password... So I haven't gotten anyone's messages... Remember me sating awhile back I can't log in? Yeah I still can't..... Haven't been able to in months
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Good news though.... The big block is ready to run with the exception of the power steering pump pulley , lower cradle bracket, and waterpump pulley.... Should be starting the engine here by this upcoming weekend.... I'm stoked! I'm having a business in town that does custom metal fabrication build a custom built flatbed with tool boxes all the way around except the bumper area. Lightbar up top on the headache rack, with fog lights facing forward and backward, winch built into headache rack, and hydraulic lift installed for bed. That will take place here in 3-5 weeks I'd say. So I'm pretty excited about that. And more tires will be added to the rear end to make it a dually.... Only reason I'm going this far with it is because I need a solid work truck for the fire mitigation and fire wood business.... After it's all said and done and everything is taken care of I will probably look for a decent used 2nd truck ( chevy) that can be a backup vehicle. Ie if I know it will involve sketchy work areas I will bring the beater truck lol....because the dodge ram I'm driving is on it's last legs and just doesn't have the ability to do this kind of hauling / demanding work anymore, the dodge will just be a truck used for A to B driving... Or if my wife needs the truck for the day kind of thing.... Would love to get a truck with a fresh 350 in it behind a th400 or sm465 trans , 4x4 of course.... I don't know we will see.... The need for a solid truck is definitely there, the dodge is only going to be on the road for so long, definitely going downhill, this truck will be the main truck I use everyday. Would be nice to have a truck that's powered by a 350, but I have to talk to my wife for her approval...... Lol....... I'm just counting down the days to finishing this truck..... I am stoked about it.... It's nearly done
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talk to chris about resetting your password
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Ok thanks
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I will send you and PM tonight prior to resetting it.
Chris Lucas
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squarebody.biz
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Okay thanks, I'm logged into tapatalk and this is the only way to post updates without being able to log in.... I don't see how I would check a PM if I can't log in.... If you could help me that would be great
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If you open tapatalk you can see PM's there. how do you want me to send you password otherwise?
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I don't know where to find it in tapatalk to see PM's
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It would be here:
Chris Lucas
73-87chevytrucks.com
squarebody.biz
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Okay I know how to find it now. Can you send me a message ?
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Wow Capt helped me out and I am logged into the forum again. It's been a long time!
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I finally have some pictures to share with you guys! The big block is installed! Headers on! Accessories on! Bolted up to trans! Engine secured with new brackets and motor mounts! Finally! Just need the power steering pump pulley and waterpump pulley! The ones I have don't fit..... So trying to find some pulleys that will actually work and fit properly. Exhaust still needs hooked up to headers and welded and driveshafts need rebuilt for the Dana axles.... I'm stoked! It's pretty much near ready to test fire and break in the engine! Then drain the oil and put fresh oil in it and finally drive it! I'm pumped to hear it run! I'll post a video up the day we crank her up!
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It's finally in! A few more things and it will be test fired!
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Great job on the engine bud. Looks fantastic
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Thanks Eric I appreciate it, it's been a long process that's for sure
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I have a bunch of pictures to post... Some new some old,,, need to get down to the shop and take more pics of the new progress made
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Before the lift kit and axle swap
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The old 305 small block
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The old axle
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Before it was fully rebuilt
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After it was fully rebuilt
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Pic of motor before rebuild
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After it was fully rebuilt
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The power plant before
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The new power plant
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More pics to follow.....! And updates
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Hey guys! So I know I've let up on writing stories about the updates to my truck. I've just been so busy lately... Well here are a bunch of pics I took today.... Spark plug wires hooked up, alternator bolted up, power steering bolted up, big air filter and cap bolted on, brackets mounted up. Headers installed, fuel system somewhat hooked up. I need new pulleys though.. To be honest... Not only do they not fit but they are used and old. I'm sure a sand and paint job would do wonders. I would honestly probably keep them if it wasn't for them not fitting.... Need pulleys and brackets still... And other things... Ie.... I have all the fluids for the truck, power steering, coolant, transmission fluid, transfer case fluid, both front and rear axle fluids. U-joints, wheel bearings, seals, for axles, gasket maker for diff covers, brake pads, shoes for drums, hardware kit for drums, exhaust pipes for dual exhaust, mufflers, gauges and a slew of other things to be installed it just needs to get done on those things pretty much. Need to flush the fuel tank and add a second fuel tank as well... I won't be making it that far on the small fuel tank it has on board. There is one shock mounted on the driver side. The passenger side still needs installed.. Among other things. The heater core needs replaced... No heat.... Both door locks and window "guts" I'll call them inside the door need replaced. I have the door locks though... Ignition pulls out of the steering column... Hmmm leave it or fix it guys? Truck still starts though... What are your thoughts? Carb still needs tuned once the motor is running... Picked up a magnetic drain plug for engine oil... After the engine is broken in I'm putting the joe Gibbs racing 10w40 oil in it. I've read some really positive reviews on joe Gibbs oil for various engines, the users have had very interesting reviews of the oil they have used. If you guys have time check out joe Gibbs oil and look up their reviews. Definitely worth your time checking it out... Hey guys I would like to put a stock radio in the truck as it does not have one. Any ideas? What kind of speakers would work well with the stock radio? Also don't know if I'll actually be able to hear the radio over the big block? Any users have experience with a high performance big block with zero sound proofing material and a stock radio ? Would like some input on that..... The driveshafts still need to be rebuilt and brakes changed out.... I didn't think or realize the build would go this far at all..... There's always something else to do to get it running seems like,, well not just get it running but to replace this fix that or upgrade etc..... My hat is off to you fellows who have done a complete truck rebuild..... Man.... A lot of work, time and as all of you know ....funds lol......well I would sit here and told more but need to post some pictures.... Hey guys.... Anyone know how much oil this engine takes with a deep truck pan installed on a passenger car big block ? Had to get a new dip stick from gm and tube as well, new truck pan... And I don't know how much she will hold. Don't want any issues with too little or too much oil... That's a bad thing that's find sure.... Well fellas enjoy the pics!
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The headers had plenty of room! Whoo hoo! No denting or banging on them!
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Saginaw power steering pump
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Stage 3 intake
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Holley 830 double pumper
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Massive Holley air filter and cap
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Hopefully she will breathe really well
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Still need the thermostat housing cap
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Still gotta mount the passenger side shock....
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I need new pulleys
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The truck is a mini monster truck lol
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The door handles are between eye and nose level lol
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The door locks are at my mid peck level
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Pictures don't do justice .... It's so much different in person
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I'm so stoked for the truck to be done ! I've never built a truck like this before or as extensive... Every truck I've had has had modifications .... But this truck is a tank..... To me...... Frame didn't drop even a quarter inch installing the big block.... Crazy..... Anyways I know I take and post a ton of pics.... But I truly enjoy the process of the truck and posting updates about the truck... I hope you guys enjoy my updates half as much as I do haha
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Fellas check out the last multiple pages of my posts.... There is a ton of new pics.... And old ones I never posted too
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Check out post 1056 I believe it is for more info on the updates
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Just found this post today and my I add great write up with pics on your build FearNoMan. I am also in the process of doing a frame up on a 79 k10 short bed. I should have pics in here under hazardousduty I haven't posted pics in awhile but will be soon. I'm in Missouri and right now it is very cold outside, but I do have a garage to work in and I can go out and turn on the heat when I want to. I wish I would have seen your post earlier though about the troubles you were having with your motor mounts. I was having an issue awhile back trying to put my sbc 350 back in my frame after I had it all painted and ready. The issue I ran into was that I had gotten rid of the original clam shells that bolt up to the side of the engine block so I purchased some new ones from . So of course I painted them and had them all ready to go and bolt up to the engine when I had it completed. Well low and behold went to drop it back in the frame and couldn't get the bolt holes on the clam shells to line up with the bolt holes on the rubber mounts, I could get one side in but not the other. I tried every thing I could think of to get those holes aligned but it just wasn't happening. I was almost at the point of making permeanant brackets and welding it in there, lol. Good thing I bought a set of chevy dealer parts books off of Ebay a couple years ago, I started researching and found out that the clam shells that bolt to the side of the engine block are different and have a different part number on K10 and C10's. The one's that I bought out of are for a C10 but they don't tell you that, I called them and informed them of this and they said they were unaware of this also. We long story short I found a set of clam shells from a K10 At a engine rebuild shop close to me, the engine went in smoothly once I got the right clam shells on there.
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Thanks Hazardousduty I appreciate it... Yeah I wish you would of saw the post when I was trying to get the right brackets and motor mounts... Man that took forever to find the right ones... A lot of trial and error that's for sure... We are good to go now though... It's nestled in there....I think anything bigger and I wouldn't of been able to close the hood lol! I still have quite a few things to do.. Actually a slew of things...I'm hopeful it will be done by spring.... We will see... Funds are holding me up right now....my family needs money for bills and such , they come first.... So I will just have to wait for some extra cash to open up at some point.... No big deal....
Especially since there is always something else I'm swapping out for a new part... One thing I didn't do and won't do is paint the truck .... Too much money has been invested already.... And I don't want to make that kind of investment into body and paint..... Here is what has been invested and purchased so far... This isn't AT ALL for me to be proud of it is a long painful expensive list.... It's just to give the chevy community an idea of all that's been put into this truck....
I had made a post stating how much in parts.... And someone said no way there's that much in parts there.... Well here they are... Every last part, every cost, every labor expense, every engine part, tires, axles, carb, paint, you name it. So here's the list...... Next post will be parts.. I don't have every order receipt part etc that I purchased so I will post up what I have...
Truck: 1978 chevy k10, originally a 305 small block, np208 transfercase, sm465 tranny. Cost was $3550.00
"New 1973 454ci passenger car engine" from dad's long time "friend"... $4700.00.... Total nightmare inside, needed fully rebuilt
Tires: Hancook Dynapro mud terrain tires 33x12.50R16 cost: $1059.99
Axles: Dana 60 kingpin & Dana 70HD straight axles 456 gears. Cost: $1000.00 good deal on those!
Carb: Holley 830 4 barrel double pumper carbuerator tricked...cost: $600.00
Labor Total for my mechanic: $2500.00
Laniers speed shop: magnaflux & clean block $355.67
Rough Country 6" lift kit complete suspension: $841.55
Burts Auto Machine Shop Labor & parts: Cost $3215.00..
Motor machine shop labor and parts. Had them balance and do other work on crankshaft grinding it true and matching up the bearings for the rods and crank, cam etc. I forgot the term for that type of work.... They did this before they built the engine. I was at that time wanting to build it ourselves....and not pay a shop to build it.... But I changed my mind...
Advanced Auto Parts: cost $1500.00
Side parts from same style part store $500.00
Summit Racing parts Total: $6494.30. This is every part from beginning of build until now from summit
On Track Performance $175.00
Tanner 4 wheel drive $75.00
2 Old rims for mockup axle swap $20 bucks plus gas to drive way out east....
Towing charges for chevy: costs $425.00
Home Depot supplies for truck: $200 plus
Walmart supplies for truck : $200 plus
Traded new camshaft for original fan , tow hooks , two emblems......and pulleys that don't fit....
Traded old pistons for a nice deep truck pan for 454 engine
Traded old valves old rockers and few other things for a new radiator and dual electric fans. Can't remember exact parts I traded.
Sold the old 305 engine brackets and all including exhaust for a huge loss.... Sale... $330.00 ?
Sold Both axles off truck.... For what price I cannot remember....
Sold my new 2014 6x12 enclosed trailer and most everything inside it full of new and lightly used hunting fishing camping gear so I could help offset the cost of building the truck.... I've always been a huge outdoorsman since I was a kid, ran into a bit of money and spent a lot on outdoor gear and best buy...
Sold off a crappy f-250 that I had been talked into by a wife's friend, had a for several weeks and hated it passionately..... I'm not a ford lover by any means..... I paid bills and bought the chevy.... I had a 1992 for ranger in high school.... I LOVED that truck... I'll have to post pics of it...
So here is the long list of parts on the truck just in case your wanting to know.... Side note.... My parents helped me out big time on this build because they know I need a solid truck... And they have helped enough... More than enough..... It's a funds issue for me now.... I tapped myself out dry... Selling things making money etc.... Yeah.... I'm broke now,.... Lol.... And I don't and won't take money from my wife and family to build this truck... Part of the reason my wife is "okay" with the build,...
Never ever thought it would go this far or be this extensive in parts, in labor etc.... Boy was I in for a wild ride.... I can't wait for this build to be over with already lol jeez
This entire post is for you guys who read this to learn and possibly if you have the same build or similar going on to find out what is best for your build parts wise, ie if you have an old worn out motor and want to rebuild it but don't have the tools or expertise... I would suggest a crate motor... It's gets real expensive very quickly.... I could of saved myself a lot of headache and expenses had I just purchased a new crate motor instead of paying top dollar for a engine that was promised to be this and that and then total nightmare when taking it apart to put a new cam in it...so I decided to not sell the engine and rebuild it completely..and go all out.... Otherwise it's a $4700 mistake that was tossed down the drain ... Anyways
I haven't even rebuilt the trans yet at this point.... Or finished buying parts for needing to start it.... Ie pulleys and belts and a bracket or two... And once the engine is running I still have driveshafts to rebuild/replace... And a slew of things to do and install parts wise after it's running... I'm nowhere close to being actually done on this truck... I would say a couple months and she will be road worthy... I hope...
Finally: the parts list.. It will be pictures mostly... There are a lot parts I don't have pics on the orders...
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That was a huge project you took on.
Glad to see its almost done.
Are you going to keep the dually front hubs?
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looking good bud. now hurry up and get that darn thing running.lol Hope the tank brackets work out for you.
I'm still trying to get my updates caught up. On a good note I was able to finally bring her home. Still have a few things to finish up but I needed to plow my drive.
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Thanks fitz, yes I'm going to keep them. Sorry. I will need them.. If I don't I will let you know. Thanks minus I appreciate it... Yeah I know I know.... Funds are holding me up for a bit... I'll have to just play it by ear when I'm able to finish it...
That's great I wish my truck was at the point of driving lol ... Good for you minus! I think you did a great job on the build enjoy that truck !
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Oh and the tank brackets I think will work great I just need to get a tank now... Thanks so much again for those minus they look great!
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Thanks fitz, yes I'm going to keep them. Sorry. I will need them..
What are you going to run for rims with the dually hubs?
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I havn't decided yet.... I was wanting to make it a dually... Now I'm up in the air about it..... I need rims either way
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It looks like you are coming along with it. I am glad to see the engine is finally in. Just remember with a dually you have to buy 2 more tires which is a bummer. You will get it sorted out and be driving it before long.
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Slowly but surely at this point but yes it's coming along. Thanks me too it took awhile that's for sure I know, an extra $500 plus 2 extra rims and it's high enough that hauling too much in the bed would make for a nightmare of a drive so I'm leaning less and less to a dually... And the streets here in areas are narrow and in others wide so that's also a reason.
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Slowly but surely at this point but yes it's coming along. Thanks me too it took awhile that's for sure I know, an extra $500 plus 2 extra rims and it's high enough that hauling too much in the bed would make for a nightmare of a drive so I'm leaning less and less to a dually... And the streets here in areas are narrow and in others wide so that's also a reason.
Hello FearNoMan78k10.
I read the majority of you build thread.
Fun read and cool project.
I am starting a much simpler rebuild of a '75 K-10.
Question. Who did you use for your engine work?
I live in Black Forest / COS and looking for a trusted shop to do some work on my motor.
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Thanks bbm3 I appreciate it. The name of the shop is burts auto supply and machine. It's in the springs.
What are you planning to do ?
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Anyone have a close guess as to what this truck will weigh roughly with the Dana 60 kingpin out of 1 ton dually. what I believe is a 1983 or 87. And the rear end too. Dana 70 hd. With the 454 added in and the 33's ? just curious... I cannot weigh it now unfortunately. I'll have to wait awhile
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So I have several updates.... I pulled the truck from the shop it was at... My mechanic/friend is just so busy he has no time to work on it anymore... So I had it towed out of there along with all the parts... He was generous enough to stay and help load and unload the truck as it barely fit onto the flatbed. Then helped load it into storage right across the street from where I'm staying which is a awesome location being so close to it. The dog house resting on the bed was set in place back where it belongs and the bed of the truck is resting where it usually should be....lol... Finally.... Still needs bolted down though and body mounts replaced before bolting it down.
The gauges are set in place where I want them, but need hooked up, holes drilled, and secured.
The fuel on the motor is 90 percent complete in being fully functional. Throttle cable needs hooked up still to the carb. I replaced the radiator with the bigger one with dual electric fans. Although, the fans need to be hooked up to a toggle switch in the cab on the dash near the gauge displaying the temp. I pulled the front diff cover and drained all the nasty old fluid and cleaned out the housing , but still needs cleaned more, then I will cap it probably tomorrow and fill it back up after using the black rtv for a gasket.
The gasket has hardened to the cover and surface area so it will be a chore getting that off with no power tools... I will do the rear after I finish the front axle. Power steering lines are hooked up. I've got the belt on the crank waterpump and alternator pulley but need a longer belt by 2" or so...
SOOO.. I can't tighten the other belt yet.... I could but I want to square away the power steering pump. Got the correct pulley in, mounted it, and it should be good to go. Also got the shim kit installed on the crankshaft pulley to line up the belts. I have to get new radiator hoses, they aren't the right ones,,, a lot of time has been sucked up trying different parts on this truck build.... The oil dip stick is in but just needs to have the header bolt pulled out and put through the oil dip stick bracket and tightened to be secured and good to go.
The new optima battery is in the battery tray. It needs secured... I need to find the bracket for that. Starter needs to be set in place and bolted up then wired up. The alternator has a 4 wire connection on it and it needs to be set up to run on a two wire configuration.
The thermostat housing was finally replaced too, and it found my old radiator cap with the safety release that belonged to the old radiator, it's tight :-) I purchased a new one and found this one before I installed the new one.
The roof of the cab on the truck is 83 and 1/2" inches lol and the door to the storage unit is 80.5" . We barely were able to get the truck in the unit. Even though is a 10x20 the truck barely fit. It was a squeeze getting it in there.... I'm so stoked to finally get this engine started! It's about dang time.... A lot of care and attention to detail and patience is still leading up to the point of firing up the motor and breaking it in.....open header style.... In the storage unit parking lot surrounded by houses lol... For 20 min the motor will run above idle. We may have to make a few carb adjustments too along the way getting it road worthy. After that we will dump the oil and put the joe Gibbs oil in it and change that oil filter and crank her up!
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The front right shock still needs installed along with the steering stabilizer shock. ALL rubber bushings need replaced from bumper to bumper. Nuts on studs on mounting plate for the u bolts needs torqued down too. Brakes will get resurfaced, I need to get that done along with full brake rebuild and bearing /seal replacement for both axles... I need to flush the fuel tank, replace the hoses from the filler neck down to the tank. The brake lines will get replaced with braided lines meant for a lifted truck.. Heater core and hoses need replaced as well. The shifter will get swapped out for a stainless steel one instead of the black one on there.. The shifter was given to me from a guy I did trades with for the radiator and oil pan. I forgot if I traded something or he gave it to me..
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The radiator and fans will get painted once everything is hooked up and running... Not sure what color yet.... Black, silver, orange, or a combo of two colors...
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Here are some pics, sorry I couldn't get pics of the truck in the day..... WAY TOO HEAVY to push with just a couple guys. The storage has two ledges to push the tires over... I wish I could get it in and out of the unit by myself...
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Before with 33" tires, no lift
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Well without the new lift anyway
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For new updates look at posts 1128 to 1154
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Thanks bbm3 I appreciate it. The name of the shop is burts auto supply and machine. It's in the springs.
What are you planning to do ?
Thanks for the reply and the referral to Burt.
Your truck is awesome.
My project is simple compared to yours.
My plan is to make my '75 K10 as close to "as built" without breaking the bank.
Simple Goal...
When I am done I will be happy if I can drive it from Monument to Woodland Park through the Pike National Forest.
I know not a huge goal but I have to start somewhere.
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Hey your welcome, no problem, hopefully they will take good care of everything...
Thanks man I appreciate it. I'm trying lol
Well that's a good goal I think... Go for it!
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ITS ALIVE,!!! It is ALIVE,!!! It's ALIVE,!!!!!!!
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It's ALIVE,!!!
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Finally the beast is awakened!!!
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Congratulations.
Don't forget you need a working cooling system too. ;)
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Thankyou.. Lol finally... Oh most definitely... Tomorrow I'm going to be working tying up the loose ends.... There are still things to do. Plenty in fact... Just amazing to hear it running.... My right ear I can still feel it, an hour ago running the motor , that motor is loud... Chick magnet or cop magnet ? Lol jk hopefully neither....
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Hopefully loud as in exhaust.
Not screeching pistons, knocking rods, clashing valves, and spinning bearings.
Those other non exhaust related sounds will be yours soon without a working cooling system.
Sorry I couldn't help myself.
Congrats on your first start!
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Congrats!
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https://vimeo.com/122709744 (https://vimeo.com/122709744)
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Yes loud as in exhaust lol, I won't be starting it again and running it until it's all hooked up, then flush the fuel tank , replace hoses, fill with fuel, then go through the break in procedure... Truck took 10 quarts of oil...
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Thanks Captkaos and bbm3 !
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Nice engine. It sounded really good. I am glad it is finally in and you posted a video of it running. Now get the radiator and fans hooked up and get it dialed in! You will be driving it in no time.
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Thanks Don! I'm glad you liked it :-) yes most definitely! Hopefully I will be lol we will see
Yesterday got the hoses on the radiator and clamped down and nice and snug, hopefully no leaks! Also picked up a heater core yesterday when I picked up the hoses. Had to get a fitting for the manifold to run the hose off of it to the heater core. Also finally after multiple tries I have the right length power steering belt! I've got the tachometer where I'd like to have it so I'm drilling holes and mounting that today, hopefully will have it wired up too... The fans I want to wire to a toggle switch for a manual setup on/off. We will see if I get to that today..
I want to scrape off the old gasket on the diff cover and housing today as well, refill with fluid. The new starter wouldn't bolt up to the block....? So I had to have the old starter which luckily I hung onto ,,, installed instead,, and amazingly enough had enough to crank the motor over ... I was floored... Also the alternator is a 4 wire connector. Newer model truck style. I need a two wire connection. So I'm going to put the old alternator on for now and hope it works...
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It's not pretty and dolled up on the outside, ie a paint job , but a good wash and lots of buffing and wax should do wonders.... Need to paint the axles , they stick out like a sore thumb...made quite a bit of progress guys from where it last was
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nice!
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Thanks Captkaos
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It looks good. Get the axles painted, put the bumper on it and just enjoy it! Do you like that steering wheel? I had the same one on my truck. We took it off because the two inch adapter moved the steering wheel way back. I didn't like that at all. I loved the wheel but didn't like the install kit.
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I still have some work to do, install light bulbs on gauges, hook pos and neg wires to it, replace brakes front and rear, torque down u bolts, hook emergency brake up, install bolts on bed, I have two in place, adjust front clip, torque down, replace hoses to fuel tank , replace bearings seals in axles, rear diff service, tranny service, t-case service, tighten down front grill after getting screws , replace front lights, cut/weld the dual exhaust, get lug nuts for axles, get different rims eventually, needs an alignment, needs steering stabilizer installed, needs two other shocks installed, needs floor of cab cut out, welded up, needs new dash pad , carpet, mats, liner, the whole 9 yards, need to coat the door panels and replace or paint the handles, motor needs tweaked a little, the spring for the clutch pedal needs installed, I have a leak in the cooling system and need to address that and figure it out, replace shifter with different one I have, hook up heater levers to heater core box, replace passenger mirror, paint axles, replace several studs on rear axle, mount toggle switch for fans ( hooked up ) , build new front and rear drive shafts, bigger yoke on the tranny and transfer case shafts, replace rubber bushings up front , install battery hold down clamp/bar, fill with fuel, test drive and see if truck drives okay, then I'll work out all the bugs, lol it's been a ridiculous process, so much to do still lol jeez maybe I shouldn't of thought up this list haha, and I'm sure there is other things
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And on the wheel, yeah I totally dig the wheel! But it's just a hair close for me, an inch further back and it would be better, but hey , I like it enough that unless I can do something about the closeness of it, I'm going to keep it the way it is.
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Captkaos and others .... Listen to the video and help me out here ? Disregard the poor visual, I wasn't going for that this video....
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Also, audio was poor due to being inside the storage unit ,,,, lol I know it probably,,,,,,,,actually,,, was not the best idea,,, that's impatience a little bit on my part.... But truck is out of storage now,,,, I can't pull it into the driveway because of construction , so the gravel driveway is where it will be for another week....
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Oh and the reason why it was just cranking first is because we had to get fuel to it ....
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Looking good!
I would love to see your truck sometime. I'll bring mine and coffee or beer.
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Hey thanks! That sounds good, just let me know when your feeling up to it..yeah .... Lol... Don't forget to bring your truck haha
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Captkaos how much oil pressure should this engine make on a high idle?
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Got new headlights installed today, did a rear diff service, except for filling it with fluid , installed rear bumper and tried to clean it up a bit, was sitting for a year...... Also siliconed the wiring in for dual electric fans today, I will apply more once it dries though. Cleaned the housing of the axle really well and the cover and mounting surface and hopefully will have no leaks! Tomorrow I'd like to tackle installing the new shifter and a few other things. I had the truck moved to the correct driveway now that the concrete has dried on the sidewalk It was moved I to its new parking spot today!
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This is without the new headlights
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I'd like to take the grill and sand , primer, and paint it soon!
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I ordered the rear brake line a couple days ago, it shipped out today. Now I just need to get the front lines, and replace the e brake cable in its entirety
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Should be dropping off the driveshaft soon, I decided instead of a quick bandaid fix, I will just fork it over and have one built instead, and wait until I can have the front driveshaft built this summer..... I'm making progress guys
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Captkaos how much oil pressure should this engine make on a high idle?
I am not Captkaos but I would think that 45 to 60 pounds of oil pressure would be close. Maybe a little more. Also you have to factor in the viscosity of your oil. Please tell me you had cam lube or break in oil in it. I don't remember you posting whether you did.
In your second video, why didn't your helper adjust the engine up to 2000 rpm and leave it there for 30 minutes? It was unclear, to me at least, if you had already broken the engine in prior to that video. The engine sounds pretty healthy. :)
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Thanks Don for going ahead and posting that. Yes it was primed and I have engine break in oil :-) thanks I thought so too. Video definitely does no justice on the sound of the motor maybe next video will be better, will be welding the dual exhaust up next week! . I went down to the shop today where they built the motor and the owner of the place said I'm good to go. Gave me a few pointers and tips and I went on my way. I picked up two snap rings for the door locks and fuel hose and a new hose for the heater core on the top side while I was there. Along with two small clamps for the fuel hose.
I drained the oil out of the rear diff the other day, sanded down both surfaces and coated it with black rtv silicone. And today I drained the transmission, and transfer case. I coated all the drain/fill plugs on the axles , tranny, and transfer case. I then filled them all today with fluids using a 4cc hand pump........lol..... It got the job done though...I had to add 15" of fuel hose to make it work in a 5 gallon bucket, it was meant to screw onto quart size containers. I purchased that little pump today too from the shop who built the motor. $ 6.50 , not bad , should work through the next service interval hopefully.
I also siliconed the electric fan wires inside the front clip behind the grill, need to add more tomorrow. I installed the dual electric fan switch on the dash today. Eventually want to get all steel rocker switches. Also started the hole for a oil temp gauge in the dash as well, I should have that mounted tomorrow but not hooked up. Tomorrow is detailing and wax day. I used one of the snap rings I got from the shop for the driver door lock. For the first time in well over a year I can lock my driver door with a key ! Haha! I replaced the lock today. I still need to replace the passenger side.
I mounted the front and rear bumpers on.......by myself..... What a pain..... Missing two bolts for top mounting brackets on front bumper, also need to replace both lower bolts on the front bumper as one broke from rust and the other is fugly and dented. Rear bumper still needs torqued down. Rear steel braided brake line came in today! Now just need it order the front lines and replace all the steel cable throughout. That's not going to be cheap I'm thinking.
I have the brackets to mount a second tank (30) gallons I believe... That a member from the community sent me. I also already have a dual tank switch mounted in the cab, need to check and or replace the wiring for that. Wanting some help on that one. I need to drop the tank I have and clean it out real well. Then install new hoses and clamps from the filler neck all the way up front into the engine bay.
Day by day I'm making to do lists and trying to knock them out to make consistent progress on the truck. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel....
Oh and to answer your question Don the motor had to be shut down due to a coolant leak and high temperatures. So we shut her down early... Debating on dropping fluid , replacing with new break in oil from joe Gibbs. We are breaking it fully in next week and running it good and long. Had to shut it down the first time due to fumes inside the storage unit, 2nd time from a coolant leak and high temps, third time the charm??? It's a learning process for me.... Distributor needs pulled out and rotated 180 degrees after setting the motor to top dead center again . The vacuum line off the distributor that feeds from the carb is stopping right up against a rise in the manifold keeping me from idling and running how it should be. Found two spark plug wires nearly hanging off the plug on the passenger side and another halfway connected. I was scratching my head trying to figure out how that happened.
Anyways. I'm beat guys.... Here are some pics
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I have some serious repairs to do to the cab
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Buffing and restoring the hood guys, she looks bad :(! (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/12/b37e180342d2950cf156e1478aff54a4.jpg)
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Still have a ways to go on the hood... And need to wax and buff the body as well ... It looks soo much better than before
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So far big difference from yesterday on the hood. I need more pads for sure. A weeks worth of buffing the body and It should be good to go. Trying to work on the truck in between working. The front brake lines should be in early this week so by the end of the week brake lines will be installed.... Finally... I am dropping off the driveshaft this week to be rebuilt. I will see if he will trade my driveshaft and cash for a custom built one . We will just have to see what happens with that.... I want to paint my rims. Any suggestions on color? After I get the paint buffed out more I will go back to working on the truck. I need to install all the shocks including steering stabilizer shock except one shock on driver side that's been installed. Trying to get some help this week to drop the fuel tank and clean it out real good . Then replace hoses and fill it up. This week hopefully will have the exhaust welded up too , maybe ..... We will see how the week plays out..
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I got most of all the black stuff off the hood, a few more waxes and it should be looking as best as it can get it, still have the lower portion just above the front bumper to restore too
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Nice build you have going on here. You did a great job on the frame and I really like the color of your truck! Is that Grecian Bronze? I want to paint a truck that color someday. But on my current build it's a truck my Father gave me that he drove daily when I was a kid and it's yellow and white and has been called "Old Yeller" for decades so I have to repaint it the orignial colors. Wouldn't feel right.
Your 454 sounds nice too! I miss my old 71' GMC Sierra Grande that I put a 454 in as well. Keep up the good work!
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Hey thankyou I appreciate it! I'm not sure exactly. I need to get the paint code for it. Still have a lot of buffing and waxing to do . I like the color too and want to stick with the same color if it ever gets painted in the future. Yeah I agree on painting it with original colors you should do that. Well thanks I think it sounded nice too. You guys should check out the videos I'm about to post... The motor is broken in now. I need to change the oil in it... Radiator has multiple areas where it needs repaired, thinking of just buying a new radiator. Motor is running right now, clean and crisp and responsive.....and LOUD..... Haha
well the fuel tank still needs dropped and cleaned out and a few little things here and there , shocks need put on, need bolts and spacers etc, driveshaft needs to be built, and other than the radiator an alignment hopefully will be the last of what I need before it's on the road , it's always something seems like whenever you do anything to move forward. Oh by the way blew a 30amp fuse on the fuseable link coming off the pos battery terminal. Keeps blowing fuses.....? Tachometer was working then quit working. Now it has reset itself after we shut her down. Needs a few studs for the rear axle. Exhaust welded and hooked up. And she'll be sitting in a much better spot than where it is right now, I'm close though to being on the road. It takes time, money and patience.
Sorry about the poor taping of the videos. That was my least concern , these videos are for the sound of the motor!
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Okay so here are the videos... Don't laugh about the clutch scenario . The spring isn't hooked up to it . And my buddy was playing a trick on it having me hold the clutch in then was reassuring me to let it out so I was definitely hesitant. Lol anyways, don't know what happened to the tack, our ears still are ringing a bit lol , and he says to drive it on the road with open headers and grins and says that's what I would do .... Loooool ... I'm thinking yeah I don't know about that....
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It's ALIVE!!! ;)
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Haha indeed it is!
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The whole dang truck was rocking back and forth under the motor, that thing wanted to jump right out of the engine bay , ran like a scolded raped ape , surprised us both. He looks at me shakes his head and says I've been around awhile, that's one heck of a motor. We cleared any cob webs, dirt or debris from underneath the truck or behind it with that 454,,,, looool ,,,, might of even started sandblasting the frame.... Lol jk...... Point is it had a ridiculous amount of fire breathing raw power dumping out those hooker headers and dang we were like two kids in a candy store, our adrenaline was pumping long after we shut her down! Our faces have a PERMAGRIN stuck on them :-) if that doesn't get your blood moving listening to the motor I don't know what will.... I was h$&h as a kite and my buddy knew it and made me hold the clutch in just in case something happened, and I wanted to release it and he told me not to earlier messing with me, he's 50 sum, and then non chalantly tells me to release it so I thought he was joking again with me, the motor has so much friggin power to it the dang thing was tripping me out in the cab, I've never experienced that before, it was INSANE, Not just loud but had so much UMPH to the engine it just seemed like it would swallow pretty much anything around for lunch and honestly the motor has mad respect from me, thing had so much power just off idle it was just insane, made me really think twice about how it'll be driven on the street .............without wrapping it around a light pole like some owners on youtube...... Anyways guys I'm blown away with the motor, the response was right there, our faces light up like Christmas trees, it's enough to blow us away, I am extremely happy with it so far...
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Glad to hear that the motor runs strong.
Have you had a chance to check out the frame?
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Thanks fitz, no I sure havn't, not yet, that actually slipped from my thoughts entirely. I need to do a thorough frame check and go from there... What are your thoughts
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In the picture it looks like someone welded up a crack in the frame.
We are playing around with old trucks and these are some of the problems that we have to deal with. I would have an experienced welder check it out.
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In the picture it looks like someone welded up a crack in the frame.
We are playing around with old trucks and these are some of the problems that we have to deal with. I would have an experienced welder check it out.
On page 6 of this build he states that the truck had a 8 foot bed and the frame was shortened to fit a 6 foot bed on it. The frame has been cut and welded on both sides in the same spot. I do agree that he should have the welds looked at by an experience welder. I would also pay close attention to them after driving the truck awhile especially if you crank it up. Wait- did I say if? Who am I kidding? After you launch the truck a couple of dozen times, take a close look at the frame. :)
BTW- In that pic, I am not looking at the weld on the frame. I am looking at that really small u joint on the rear driveshaft. I predict a future post concerning a new u joint installation. Wait a minute, you are having a new driveshaft made right? Make sure to tell them about the estimated HP and ask for any "suggestions" they may have. Just a thought.. :) Truck is looking and sounding good. :)
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i wouldnt say cracked but maybe cut down or lengthen. dont thing i ever seen a crack be straight like that
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Good catch Don5. I went back and read page 6. I have been following this thread but I missed the part about the frame being converted from a long bed to a short bed.
Mystery solved.
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In the picture it looks like someone welded up a crack in the frame.
We are playing around with old trucks and these are some of the problems that we have to deal with. I would have an experienced welder check it out.
On page 6 of this build he states that the truck had a 8 foot bed and the frame was shortened to fit a 6 foot bed on it. The frame has been cut and welded on both sides in the same spot. I do agree that he should have the welds looked at by an experience welder. I would also pay close attention to them after driving the truck awhile especially if you crank it up. Wait- did I say if? Who am I kidding? After you launch the truck a couple of dozen times, take a close look at the frame. :)
BTW- In that pic, I am not looking at the weld on the frame. I am looking at that really small u joint on the rear driveshaft. I predict a future post concerning a new u joint installation. Wait a minute, you are having a new driveshaft made right? Make sure to tell them about the estimated HP and ask for any "suggestions" they may have. Just a thought.. :) Truck is looking and sounding good. :)
idk why i didnt see this post when i posted my reply sorry about that
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It's okay Irish , I don't expect people to read through the entire build.
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Cleaned up the hood today it's looking good, a few more sessions of trying to restore it and it ought to be looking nice. The plan is to paint the rims tomorrow, we will see what the weather does tomorrow. I'm also planning on painting other things as well. Ie axles. I got a bunch of microfiber buffing pads and gloss black paint ( rustoleum ) today at Walmart . I want to square away the painted piece that is underneath the grill and do what I can to restore that as well. No news on the radiator yet guys, I have to see how much that will be to fix still. Replacing it is expensive. Because of the fans. I need to drain the motor oil of the break in oil and put fresh oil in it too, along with changing the oil filter too of course. My brake lines I didn't replace yet, just waiting for a day to do that. I havn't figured out why I'm blowing fuses either.. Still a list of things to do but gets smaller every day if I keep at it
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It's okay Irish , I don't expect people to read through the entire build.
What???? :o Now you tell us! ;D I remember you mentioning that the truck had been shortened before you bought it. And that the PO never mentioned it. I looked through your thread until I found it. :)
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It's okay Irish , I don't expect people to read through the entire build.
no i was talking about don5's post. i didnt see that nor did i see yours lol
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Oh okay sorry Irish lol. Well to clear it up , it was indeed a long bed , the frame is cut off at the end of the truck and has been welded together , the Previous pictures will show it. I'll have it looked at just in case.
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What do you think guys?! Still need to try to restore the driver door and do more buffing but I painted my rims today and am happy with how they turned out... Totally a new look... They're not powder coated but hey much better than before
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Today made huge forward progress.... Fuel tank has been dropped and emptied out. Brake lines are installed except front passenger side. Driveshaft was pulled and dropped off. Getting a new stronger slip yoke and joint for the Dana 70 side. Other side is good to go. Later down the road I may do a full blown built to the hilt driveline. He said my driveshaft is heavy duty and will hold up... As long as I don't get into it hard at slower speeds or drop the clutch I should be okay. Pulled radiator ( 4 core ) and took to a shop to Get rebuilt and soldered up... Throttle cable and linkage are now hooked up and almost fully operational. Need a return spring. Exhaust was dropped off to get welded up and fabbed. Radiator will be done Tuesday. Driveshaft will be done Monday. Also the chrome shifter was finally installed. U bolt top plates dropped off for side steps . Those will be fabbed and welded up. Transfer case was dropped and spacers installed correctly too today ...instead of being on top... Don't know who did that.... Front driveshaft was removed as well.... I also got lug nuts finally and studs for the axles ordered. They will be in tomorrow . Ordered 4 but need 5 ... Go figure lol... Picked up some coolant while I was at it too... Hopefully by this upcoming weekend it will be drive able ... 7 days lol... I am hopeful
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Good progress.
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turning out to be a nice truck.
i really like the overall look with the black steel wheels, brown body, and tan roof. it all looks great together
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Pulled radiator ( 4 core ) and took to a shop to Get rebuilt and soldered up...
Who is doing your radiator and if you don't mind how much.
The radiator shop I took mine to in the Springs doesn't do repairs any longer so I wound up buying an inexpensive aluminum one.
I kept my original brass radiator and would like to have re-cored if the price is reasonable.
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Thanks guy much appreciated....flatblack77 .. Thanks man I think so too... About to have all new studs so it'll have that steel stud look with the black rims and steel colored lugs instead of black. BBM3... I forgot. It's off lake or circle drive behind the 7/11,, small shop, nice guy, knows his stuff.. Rebuilding radiator top to bottom 185.... Wanted 200 and settled on 185.... I'll get the info for you... Guy seems very knowledgeable... Not cheap though... Picking up radiator this week. So I'll let you know.... Yeah brass is the way to go... These new radiators of plastic and aluminum ,,,,suck......compared to the old school ones....
Today got a few things done. Front right brake line installed and old one removed :-) finally .... Bled the brakes today... Painted the front grill... Need to do touch up because of newspaper sticking to it after the wind blew. Pulled driver rear wheel.. Inspected a few things.... Trans bolt mounts are in by the way...
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Thanks for the reply.
That's Pott's radiator services.
Same place I took my 2 core. They wanted $400 to send mine to a shop in Denver.
Mine only has a small drip in the core. No damage.
I wish I had your negotiating skills I would have had mine repaired for $185.
I did buy my new aluminum radiator from them at a very fair price.
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Hey BBM3 you are welcome. Sorry I didn't know the name of the place... Seems like a really nice guy... Knows his stuff too... Pricey.... He isn't the cheapest in town that's for sure. But I guess he is one of the few that specialize in old school radiators and repair. Yours just has a small drip? Your lucky ! Mine has 3 or more good sized leaks... Doesn't appear to be from damage.... I was a little taken back at 200 dollars..... But.... At least it will be news through and through.. Speaking of which yeah he said he could sell me an aluminum radiator for 200 but said it is plastic and aluminum and isn't anything like the old school radiators, and suggested I get this radiator fixed instead of buying a new one and fixing this later or vice versa etc.... So the radiator is done and ready for pickup. Havn't heard anything from the driveline shop. Exhaust is welded and fabbed up. But not mounted on the truck. Bed is finally bolted down too. Well guys I have good news and bad news.......
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Yes very cool olde tyme shoppe.
Prices must be a craps shoot at Pott's. I would have had them do mine in a hearts beat for $200.
So you left us hanging with the good news bad news.
Good news first please.
All bad news can be overcome.
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So you left us hanging with the good news bad news.
Good news first please.
All bad news can be overcome.
^+1 on what he said. We are waiting.
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Yeah it is a cool old timer type of shop. I guess the prices must be a crap shoot then from what your saying. Wow well I guess I got a good deal then........... I thought it was expensive....
Yeah sorry about that guys I know I left everyone hanging on the good and bad news.... Yeah it can be overcome.... You guys are right. For a price........... Well.... A couple things..... Good news first.... Today is the day I pick up the radiator, get that installed and another coolant drain and fill.... Yay.... Lol.... No biggie.... But just put fresh stuff in and now gotta change it... It's okay though, gotta put the new motor oil in and change that oil filter. Other good news... When radiator is installed.... You guys get to see another video, better quality videoing lol....
Other good news, exhaust and side steps are finished being built. Engine gets a timing light and tune when weather breaks up today... Or this weekend hopefully... Weather has been rain... And a lot of it... I'm so stoked to fire it up again guys.... Havn't lit the candle on it , since the last video. Very excited to do that. Can't wait... Other good news... Getting ideas and help Creating devices to help prevent and deter theft of motor and of truck... Any pro ideas from you guys to help input my way in going about it? Seriously though , I truly cannot be slacking on that, gotta get it theft resistant hardcore style. Don't care what needs to be done for that. Want the hood , doors, engine, starting system , ignition etc to be secure enough most guys wouldn't want the headache of trying to steal anything off it. Might think I'm crazy. But I think doing my part to prevent it is all I can do... I don't have a garage to put it in. I'm too much in the hole to not go the extra mile on theft protection. So in short I will be doing that.
Other good news... Have a team of 3 professionals. guys who each have parts to play in finishing the truck. First guy, Myron , good mechanic, been around awhile. Knows hot rods. Trucks , cars, imports, and European vehicles and can weld. He has helped me since I took the truck into possession from Scott the mechanic who has had it a year or more who did much of the work you see parts wise etc on the truck. He went above and beyond for me. Long story... Chad the other mechanic , specializes in diesel , foreign and American muscle, and is a welder by trade. His main job has been helping tie loose ends on the truck, while Myron does the heavy work, also his job is to fabricate and weld side steps out of trick u bolt top plates for leaf springs, and to fabricate and weld up the exhaust. Garrett. Garrett is a guy with a lot of experience and background in the armed forces, semi retired. And that's all I can say about that. Has a massive welding and custom metal fabrication shop centrally located here in the springs. Va halla inc is his business. https://www.facebook.com/valhallametalsinc
Soo.. Garrett. His job is to pull the bed, and cut the frame, yes it said cut the frame, on both sides too at that . And brace up the trucks frame from twisting and snapping in two like a tooth pick from the motor and axle tire truck combo.. Etc... He is going to have armored plating, literally guys, and have plates, top bottom, and both sides on each side, overlapping each other and bolted too, then welded on all sides. It's a death trap the way it is now.
That's the bad news, frame is in total emergency state right now, it's suicide to drive or use the truck with how the frame is right now, piss poor repair job from making it a short bed from a long bed. Well it's expensive to fix even though our family knows Garrett he cut us a huge break but is still pricey. Enough that I am forced to sell off a couple valuables to pay for the frame repairs and upgrades. Sucks... Sorry ... But it dampened things.. That and parts and labor costs ate me alive and is now keeping me from being able to pick up my driveshaft. I have to pull a magic trick off to get that driveshaft and this frame done and paid for. I am so tight on finances that selling others things is my only option. Brakes still need replaced front and rear, bearings and seals too, which I have , luckily. But I'm tapped out after today, so getting this truck on the road asap,,, is going to cost me gravely in sacraficing to do it. I'm sure as always guys, I will run into more issues along the way lol, hopefully small ones at that. Um finances are holding me back at this point... Yup... Alot of are all too familiar with that story .
Okay so other good news. Just got a call from chad, he is dropping off the exhaust today by noon guys! Whoo hoo! You guys just might see another video this weekend. And he's being way cool and letting me have the exhaust and pay next week so I can try to dial in the motor this weekend via timing light with the radiator on hinge of getting installed, fuel hooked up , ( gas tank is still out ). He exhaust is the missing key. That engine is too loud to be running in the neighborhood without some sort of exhaust. I think you guys will dig the exhaust, it's short, sweet and simple to the point, and should be enough to take the edge off. Oh by the way guys it's 3ft long ......or less :-) haha!
Today we will see about the wiring issue. Blowing fuses..need to check charging system too while we are at it. Return spring needs mounted and purchased. Man guys it's amazing just how many loose ends there is to tie when we take on bumper to bumper projects. Definitely an eye opener for me for guys who have built stuff by themselves. No wonder it takes 10 years to build a truck. I thought my dodge cummins build was overwhelming....pfffft... Yeah right.... Dude , never doing this again. Too much time, way too much investment needs, etc I will get a beater someday and do a simple build, ie, refresh engine , different tires and cheap cosmetic fixes... Ie painting ...
This was way too much over my head for me to tackle alone. It has taken a dozen people each with different tasks to put this truck on the road. And it's still, not quite there. Chevy brothers in the area, if you ever want to stop by and say hey or talk trucks, send me a personal message. Hmmm by the way. Not sure if I can do this or not..... But fellas, I have these front dually hubs, and I need to bring the tires in 3" on each side I'd say... Anyone want to swap out hubs ? Who lives in state? I don't have the funds to make it a dually or need to really ... Any ideas guys?
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Painted my front grill and the wind blew and stuck he paper to the top right side of it. That's what the white marks are. Still need to remove tape varnish on chrome.
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That's the exhaust. Not finally done. I'll post more pics today when it's delivered
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The exhaust pics are "prototypes" , not fully finished...
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Grill pic before
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Bumpers still need tightened down. And the painted part of the front clip below grill needs restored to look like the hood more or less
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Check out post 1259 guys.. From then til now is new updates
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The exhaust came in! Finally! Not the new side steps though.... Heading to pick up the radiator in an hour or so.... Definitely anticipating getting things buttoned together today
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Have you thought about buying a clean short bed 4x4 frame and swapping everything over?
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"Dude , never doing this again. Too much time, way too much investment needs, etc I will get a beater someday and do a simple build, ie, refresh engine , different tires and cheap cosmetic fixes... Ie painting ... "
More good news....
Think how easy the next one will be after all you have learned with this project.
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Well it is finally coming together. I was worried about the welds on the frame. I am glad you are addressing that issue. I bet it was really eye opening and probably a lot depressing when you discussed it with a professional welder.
You are very lucky to have a team as most of us are on our own. That is just the way it is for most of us. I wish I lived closer so I could come over and help you out.
You have to look at it as getting one step closer every time you get something done. I am really interested in seeing the steps you are having made. Please show some really good, close up pics of them when you get them.
As far as security goes, I agree with you. It is way to easy to steal one of these trucks. Here are some ideas that I have been looking at.
I have seen a locking collar advertised that fits over the column. That might deter the amateurs. I would also put in a battery disconnect switch that requires a key or touchpad. This would be hidden. And the best idea yet is to hardwire a smartphone into a constant hot wire and hide it in the dash. You can use a tracking app to track that phone. Even if someone steals it, it can be tracked via cellphone. This will help you get your truck back ASAP.
You have to remember that some thieves now are very slick. They are using wreckers to pick trucks up and steal them. And within minutes it is gone. If I could even find a locking boot for the tire, I would put it on too. This sounds like overkill but you have to remember how much it cost you to build it in the first place. It would be hard to replace. I hope this helps.
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lowjack, ravelco, do have a system as used on street bikes and some of the cars such as a transponder card, will only work within 10-15 feet of vehicle and if goes out side of that kills the signal for ignition etc.
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Get insurance on it.
While others have offered good advice on trying to stop someone else from driving off in it, they can always tow it away.
It would probably be quieter for a bad guy to tow it away than to fire up your healthy big block.
Get it appraised by a classic car appraiser and insure it for a stated value.
It will probably cost less than you think.
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I appreciate you guys taking the time for your input/advice... Right on.... Yeah starting the big block up would be a bad idea , for them... Tow truck is the best option.... So i will eventually get the low jack on it and a smartphone installed, a tire boot lock, chains and lock it to something too while it's at home... Who cares about going over the top to protect it. Like you guys said it would be hard to replace. And the cost of protecting it is next to nothing compared to the cost of building it.
The truck is insured with usaa. And the 2nd insurance policy is gunpowder and lead. And 3rd is our local law enforcement agencies. Haha.
Hopefully it will be garaged soon so I can be at peace... Maybe get a few big dogs when I finally get a house too. That will deter most, 3 or 4 big dogs .... Umm yeah I'd pass too....
Anything more than the above would be going overkill... Few kill switches and fail safes built into the truck and etc etc it will be more reassuring that it will still be there in the morning, if I wake up... You catch my drift guys? We are never promised tomorrow...
On a different note....
I need help with a wiring issue... The truck started and ran last time great , but, it is blowing 30 AMP fuses on the fuseable link coming off the positive battery terminal. Truck starts and runs, once shutdown, fuse is blown out and won't start again... BBM3 or any members in the area... Need help with wiring issue and why the tachometer isn't working. I don't want to burn the truck to the ground over a wiring issue... Electrical is my weak point. Not so great at it... Need motor timed with timing light and dialed in. I am burned out guys and timing this engine and tuning it is beyond my skill set. Fixing the wiring issue by myself unless I am walked through it, is beyond my capabilities.
I am burned out guys working on this truck. Oh by the way . That chad guy the welder. Jacked my exhaust up. Moron. Claimed to be a pro welder ...etc... Did a piss poor job building it... Not happy with his welds,angle of mufflers, the fit, the non existing identical look to them, the bends. No hangers installed... Yet... Never dropped off my side steps I had him supposedly fabricate either... Not happy with chad. He is on my shat list.
Myron doesn't have too much time . And I need help with this wiring ....ASAP... help me out here chevy brothers ... What could be causing this
On a good note..... Radiator is in! Hooked up, tightened down, and filled up :-) need to install and hook up electric fans, need new mounting hardware. Hey also the driveshaft paid for and is in!!! Whoo hoo! Picked up new studs to replace all the axle studs, also a fire extinguisher bc rated I believe. For kitchen and garage , automotive fires. I will mount that inside the cab, I need a mount though. a fire extinguisher with a hot rod goes hand in hand. It was a necessity. Want dual extinguishers, one on each side. Two is better than one. Any thoughts guys on a mount? Homemade preferred... Cost effective... Reliable , long lasting... Easy function, was thinking a latch would obviously be best attached to a circle bracket which is then routed through a small plate with holes drilled through it and then mounted via self tapping screws ? Am I on the right track here?
Oh hey I forgot to mention! I painted the undercarriage of my truck, with the exception of the tranny and transfer case. The axles are painted, rear needs another coat, still have a few areas to hit in hard to get to places, but for the most part it's solid through and through, need to redo the exhaust , then repaint it, not sure what colors I will use just yet.... Want to do something unique and cool, I want to paint the tranny and transfercase. The tranny , silver or copper, and the transfercase orange /black/silver, all orange, or orange and silver, or orange and black. I want to do a cool paint theme for the tranny /transfercase, and exhaust, as well as driveline....
Any ideas with my cab? It has holes, gnarly rust spots in certain areas. Rocker panels are rotting out, cab body mount braces are about to go altogether , holes in floorboard, and floor where your feet would be in its entirety is totally rusted out, will need replacing but other than that she is solid. But some of those issues are a safety concern for me, rocker panels need fixed but the other issues are serious and need a total overhaul.
A lot has been happening in my life, so I havn't been posting near as much updates or pics etc but that will all start changing now. Should be online everyday at some point like I was... At least for a little while.
Well guys... The truck is just about on the road.... Vaguely... Still have some issues... But it's coming along..... Any input advice good or bad is welcome
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This is a pic that the truck first looked like when I got it. Half ton axles, dry rotted tires with great tread, small block 305 , no lift to my knowledge , unwaxed unbuffed the whole 9 yards...
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Now.... With dually 1 ton axles and suspension, lift, bigger tires, different rims, painted rims, buffed and waxed truck, big block 461 installed, and the whole 9 yards, completely different truck, wouldn't you say?
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I stuffed the new 33's under the truck without the lift and had to get it towed because it was undriveable... This pic is with lift /suspension/axles and big block
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All new posts from today are current up to date on where the truck is at. Start at the top of PG 86 for new updates and pics
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The truck is shaping up nicely! Ok I will try to answer a couple of your questions and make a few suggestions. On the fire extinguisher, you never said where you wanted to mount it. If you want to stand them up right behind the seat I suggest using some sch 40 pipe with a bottom cap on each one. You can buy a roll of the perforated metal bracing in the plumbing section and use that to mount it to the cab wall using sheet metal screws. I would just buy a 4 foot joint of pipe and cut it to length. It should be fairly cheap. Just my idea though, you might get a better one.
As for the fuse blowing out, I figure you have a bad ground somewhere on the circuit or you are pulling too much amps somewhere. Now on to the Tach. Make sure your Tach is hooked up in the right slot on the distributor. Make sure that connection is solid! If it comes undone anywhere it will be right there due to the vibration of the engine! I would use a spade connector.
As far as the timing issue. I am too far away to come over and do it. I can tell you how us old school guys timed one without the light back in the day though. I always turned the distributor toward the firewall. When it idled rough or "kicked back", I turned it back toward the front of the motor just a little. Then to test whether I had right, I would stand outside on the ground and start it without pumping the gas. If the truck started then I always thought it was right on. It always started, just saying. I never paid attention to how many degrees the timing was. The truck always started, hot weather or cold, and idled good. BTW- I drag raced the crap out of my truck back then too.
Now I have a question. No one has ever explained this to me and I have always been curious. Why did you mount your rear driveshaft upside down? Is it because that end can be replaced easier than the other end? That is the only explanation I can think of.
I hope you can get these problems figured out with your truck. BTW- That thing is going to be LOUD with that short exhaust.
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Thanks Don for the tips and advice I appreciate it. Yeah I think so too it's been a long but unique road and the truck is starting to really grow on me with how it looks now and how it looked when I first got it.
As per the extinguisher, yeah I want mount it behind the seat and one somewhere else ......... Trying to think of a good spot.....
The fuse blowing out issue.... Scares me a little..... I don't want to burn the truck to the ground over a ten dollar part. Grounding itself out might be why,,,, but for some reason I am thinking excessive load ? Not by accessories being ran.... I don't know electrical that well. But I'm thinking it's not a ground issue.... I think it is wired correct with good connections... A short to ground could be a cause though. So I'm not going to rule that out... Could be just a painted surface causing it... I don't know. But , it is a irritating problem since I'm unable to figure it out by myself. Ha...
Now for the timing issue.... This 454 has had so much work done to it, I really need it to be spot on from startup to shutdown. Too much invested to have it off by a hair even. I don't mean to sound spoiled when I said that.
Now for your question on the driveshaft.... What do you mean it is mounted upside down? Lol. It is mounted correctly . The slip yoke needs to be on the axle side of things and the solid yoke on the transfer case end. The shop that built the driveshaft said this is how it needs to be etc etc and broke it down for me. I'm posting a huge description on driveshafts for everyone to see. It will clear up most of our questions about driveshafts , myself being very much included .
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Driveshafts and the components they are built of come in a dizzying array of sizes, shapes and descriptions. They are grouped into series based upon torque ratings (and other factors) and each manufacturer, not surprisingly, has it's own particular way of doing things. We have compiled some reference materials here to help you identify some of the more common driveshaft components and accurately measure your vehicle or equipment for a new or replacement shaft. There is so much more out there that time and space will not allow us to cover here. If you have questions concerning anything you see here or don't find anything that looks like what you have please call us!
U-Joint/End Yoke Series Identification
There are a myriad of universal joints and parts used in passenger cars, light trucks, medium and heavy duty trucks and industrial applications, transmitting power to make things move. We have tried to be as complete as possible but please call us if you don't find your style of parts! You will need to take a look at your parts to narrow down the options you see here.
Outside Snap Ring Joints & Yokes GM, Chevrolet, Ford, Jeep
Inside Snap Ring Joints & Yokes GM, Chevrolet, Dodge
Combination Universal Joints Jointing different series/parts
Bearing Plate Joints & Yokes Heavy truck, industrial, oilfield
Mechanics Joints and Yokes Industrial, oilfield, older Mack Trucks
Spicer SPL Joints & Yokes OE on International and others
Meritor RPL Series OE on Freightliner
Attaching Hardware Torque Specs U-Bolts, Strap & Bolt Kits
Measuring Driveshafts for Vehicular Applications
Identifying a series of parts is one thing, and correctly measuring a car, truck or piece of equipment for a new or replacement driveshaft is still another. All require a little basic knowledge to do properly and the accuracy of the measurements play directly on the fit of the parts or driveshaft. Here we will help you understand how and what to measure so we can build your driveshaft correctly the first time.
NOTE: All vehicular driveshaft measurements should be made with the weight of the vehicle on it's wheels - suspension loaded!
Points of Measurement The secret to measuring for a driveshaft is knowing the points to measure from and to - where to put the tape. The image below shows the end fixtures most commonly found in driveshaft application. Most automotive shafts feature a transmission slip yoke at one end and an end yoke at the other, while many industrial/oilfield shafts are flanged at each end. Keep in mind that all driveshafts must have a provision for "slip" (the ability to change it's length) somewhere in the shaft. In a truck or car, for example, the engine/transmission power plant is installed on flexible mounts while the rear axle is hung from the vehicle's suspension - everything is moving. The driveshaft must be able to accommodate this motion. This fact will help you understand the how's and why's of driveshaft measurement. Think of measuring for your driveshaft as simply measuring from point A to point B, with a point C tossed in there for a two-piece driveshaft. If you know where to place and read your tape for each of these three points you can correctly measure your car, truck or other application correctly.
Point A: The end of the driveshaft at the power source, usually a transmission. There are but three different types of fixtures here: automotive and light truck shafts usually have a transmission slip yoke at point A, though some have a fixed end yoke. Transmission slips do as they are named - the yoke is long and splined onto the output shaft of the transmission, providing the necessary slip for the driveshaft to work as the vehicle's power plant and suspension work. Fixed end yokes and fixed companion flanges are fixed by a nut or a bolt to the transmission shaft - no movement here. In these cases the slip is built into the driveshaft with a slip yoke/splined stub set of parts. (Remember a driveshaft must be able to change length as it operates!) In the image below, Point A is either the centerline of the u-joint cap (in the case of a transmission slip or and end yoke) or the face-of-flange (in the case of a companion flange. Please note that a transmission slip yoke should be set in it's operating position (0.75" off bottom) prior to measuring.
Point B: The output end of the driveshaft, usually at the axle. The axle will have a fixed end yoke or companion flange attached to the pinion. So, Point B is the centerline of the u-joint cap (for an end yoke) or the face-of-flange (for a companion flange) at the power output end of the driveshaft.
Point C: Driveshafts that run long distances must, in most cases, be sectioned into shorter pieces that require a center bearing (carrier bearing) to support the connection of the front and rear sections. Point C is the centerline of the bearing and is most accurately measured from the center of one of the two bolts that hold the bearing assembly in place. Carrier bearing ends consist of two or three components: the bearing itself is pressed onto a bearing stub. Some bearing stubs are long and used with forward-facing slip yoke on the rear driveshaft. Others are short and have a fixed end yoke or fixed companion flange, using a rear-facing slip yoke on the rear driveshaft. Automotive and light truck applications usually have the long bearing stub setup, while heavy truck's use the fixed yoke style bearing end. Refer to the image below for your bearing end style and heed the notes for each!
PLEASE NOTE: Parts shown in this image are representing a type of part, not your particular part. Your slip yoke or center bearing may not look just like the ones in the image but it will look like one of these part types. Identify the type of part(s) in your driveshaft and use the points of measurement for that type.
Measuring Driveshafts for Auxillary Equipment
Auxillary equipment driveshafts are measured a bit differently. In new installations the driving output shaft and the driven input shaft are just that: round keyed or splined shafts without any end yokes, flanges or other fixtures installed. In the image below we have used a power takeoff and a hydraulic pump as examples of auxillary components that may be truck mounted. Others include winches, product pumps, right angle gearboxes, etc. All are measured for driveshafts in the same manner: tip-of-shaft to tip-of-shaft. Measuring the diameter and key size of a round shaft or, in this image, the diameter and spline count of a splined shaft is necessary as well to have the right end fittings installed on the shaft when it is built. Please give us a call if you need help measuring for your auxillary equipment shaft requirements.
Use the Resources!
Use the U-Joint Identification section to ID your series of parts, then use the Measuring For Driveshafts section to accurately measure your car, truck or auxillary driveshaft. We'll be quite impressed when you call us to order a 1350 Series driveshaft at 54.5" C-C for your hotrodded Camaro!
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Check this out guys , it explains quite a bit on driveshafts
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Oh and Don5 as per the comment on being loud..... Yeahhh about that.... Well.... I haven't heard it so I can't comment or speculate. Lol jk.......... It should be rattling the manhood while sitting in it. Good times :-) haha and loud enough i won't be able to use a radio. Period. Lol .... But that is okay ... The engine can be the "radio" haha I thought to myself, open header would blow my eardrums out driving it down the road, this might actually have a similar effect in hearing loss lol .... How cool would it look wearing ear plugs driving your own truck...... Ehhhh not so much ... Hehe. Soo depending on its effect on my ears driving it. I will have to eventually do something.... But .... We will see... I will post a video of it running next time we light the candle. Maybe the flames will reach out of the exhaust pipes and not just the headers loool that would be a trip.... :-) anyways I'm rambling guys......
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Back to the driveshaft..... That's exactly how the shop told me to mount it....... So ..... I believe what I was told... Any input, will be appreciated
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Back to the driveshaft..... That's exactly how the shop told me to mount it....... So ..... I believe what I was told... Any input, will be appreciated
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I did some research .... The slip yoke is mounted right where it needs to be and driveshaft is installed correctly ....
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Wait a minute
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Don I'm finding driveshafts mounted both ways,,,,, I see what your saying now...... Well which way is the right way with the 205 transfer case and lift etc ?
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All I am going to say about this subject is this. The factory did not put the slip yoke down in the rear driveshaft. In the front driveshaft, but not the rear. That rear U joint is located at a spot in your driveline that moves the most. That must be why they mounted the large tube there instead of the small yoke.
It is your truck and you can put it however you want. But I bet after a month of driving, especially with your horsepower, you will be able to wiggle that yoke a little. That won't happen with the yoke up at the transfer.
Now I don't know if I opened a can worms with my question but those were my thoughts on the subject.
As far as the shop recommendation- well they are a business so call or stop by and ask them their reasoning. I would be interested to hear their thoughts.
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I want to start out this post by saying you have not opened a can of worms, at all, in fact you did the opposite. At first I thought... He must be joking trying to catch me off guard. Then I suddenly realized after an hour or so what you we're talking about. The. Researched it , only to find people have it mounted both ways..... After doing more research, yes the slip yoke needs to be up at the transfercase end.... Why would that driveshaft shop tell me the other way around and mount the slip yoke on the axle side instead of transfer case? That doesn't make sense..... Maybe they thought they would get lucky by me blowing out the new driveshaft they just made and then they know I would be forced to buy a fully built to the hilt driveshaft.... Who knows.... You didn't step on any toes at all Don.... It is a learning process for me :-). I was sharp minded mechanically before the accident for a younger guy , it changed me quite a bit... I struggle now learning catching onto things. Where others will instantly recognize what they are learning and it sticks with them... It doesn't stick with me. My short term memory loss is pretty bad. Takes repeating learning it everyday for quite a long time for it to stick in my brain as a know how....
Anyways. Rambling ..... Don we are good man, feel free , you, and other members , to not beat around the bush with me but tell it to me how it is, I'd rather my toes be stepped on and I learn and grow about hot rods and custom built trucks. Than be told , no offense to you don it is just a statement, but be told an opinion by someone that bias in what I am doing. I need clean clear cut advice. Don't be afraid Don and other memebers to call me out on what I'm doing and tell me I'm doing it completely wrong and it needs to be changed around. I want this truck as solid bumper to bumper as she can possibly get.. And it has taken a dozen plus people each with different jobs to get the truck done. Now that being said. My team of help is gone now. I have the one mechanic who helped build the majority of the truck , I have him still as a good friend , a reference , and mechanic, but it is limited. Very limited. Now that being said. It is up to me to finish the truck . I'll be honest, I need help guys, it's tough motivating yourself to do something you just aren't sure how to do exactly, I get the jist of the idea of how most things on the truck how they need to go, but that's why I am apart of this site, to get help and advice.
I know I'm rambling, kinda, but anyways,,,, Such a nice day so far finally here in Colorado, we have had so much rain, I think I just might try my hand at installing a fuel tank on the truck today and hooking up the new lines too and getting the fuel system up to par, that would leave me with just several things left on the bucket list for the truck...
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Well I realize that you only know me from the internet but I am not one to mess with someone else like that. I am a 53 year old guy that is well past that stage in his life. I also don't like to tell someone else what to do on their truck. I may suggest or give an example.
I asked the question about the driveshaft because I saw something that I didn't think would work out for you. I wanted you to think about why that was done and see if you could understand my point of view. You came to the same conclusion that I did.
Now I will give you the only reason, I think, that you would mount that driveshaft in that position. The shop deals with a lot of people that only have stock vehicles. I bet their customers that have high horsepower engines only account for a slim part of their business. That being said, on a stock vehicle with a stock engine, you could get away with it. It is easier and quicker to replace a slip yoke than cut the driveshaft weld and reweld a new yoke. They probably tell all their customers that.
Think about this as well. You take that truck out and go through some water, mud holes and snow. If the slip yoke is that low, it will be in the mud, water and/or snow. That just adds to the wear on the slip yoke. Mud pretty much speeds up the wear process. Pretty soon instead of replacing a U joint that is worn, you are replacing a slip yoke and a U joint. That is going to cost you more money to fix.
BTW- please keep in mind that your truck is not the only one I have seen with this set up. I have never seen one set up with the rear driveshaft mounted like that. Maybe they are out there but I have never seen one. I hope you have a good day today and get everything done that you want to get done.
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It's been a long time since I've posted anything or been on. By the way don to your response. The driveshaft with the slip yoke on the axle side, is wrong. I need to switch it around so I'm good to go on that. As far as what you said about the shop too having stock vehicles they are working on, you are probably right, for the most part that is what they probably do work on. Occasionally they may have something unique roll through but yeah... I'm still trying to figure out why one of the guys told me that.... They knew what the truck was in short... As far as taking the truck out mudding.... Lol yeah I don't think so..... A little mud and snow , occasionally , sure.... I'll get a beater truck someday to do that in again... Mud makes it a chore to clean and polish a truck and your right it definitely causes more wear and tear on the truck.
Speaking of the truck. I tried to sell it a few times but just didn't get the number I was wanting. I actually shot down a 15500 offer from 17,500 and probably should of took it.... But since then I have tried to sell it and people want to pay less than I want to let it go for... I'm not selling the truck to pave a future for the family anymore... Things have completely blown apart in that area. So now I'm not selling the truck at all... In a tough spot right now financially. In every area actually. Trying to maintain and repair two trucks pay for an expensive atv every month, 2014 Polaris 850xp with extras, storing my 16ft enclosed trailer, work , life, bills, a place now, etc etc. And keeping this truck is what is pushing me forward to a goal to get stable and on my feet again.
Still haven't driven the truck..... So I haven't really gotten all that far on the truck, at all, I've installed the gas tank and all the fuel hoses , filler neck hose , and the other hoses too, still need to properly secure the fuel supply hose. And a small laundry list of other things.... Issues I'm trying to figure out on the truck....
It still needs multiple things done to it. I haven't done much work on it for what seems like a long time... Gotta get it on the road. It has started to rust on the alternator chrome and the engine harmonic balancer already from sitting outside in the weather... Best place for it is a garage but I don't have that luxury.... Truck still needs work and tlc on the cabs interior. I just want to get it on the road by winter. We'll see if that happens. I have a laundry list of things to do before that happens. At least it's at a point of being near driveable...
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Not stalking.
I see your truck is still on CL.
I check CL every morning looking for my next 72-87.
I missed a really nice original owner K10 by an hour a couple of weeks ago.
That truck still had the "Daniel Chevrolet" badge on the tailgate.
Hope everything works out for you.
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Hopefully everything works out for you.
I'd take the $15,500 and never look back.
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Glad you are back. Keep the faith. As you know everything happens for a reason. I would have taken the $15,500 too. But only after the wife got out and took a video of me launching the truck from a dead stop and melting the tires. Just sayin...
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Lol that's funny Don yeah gotta get a video of tearing up the concrete and shredding all 4 tires lol.... Yeah I've decided after a long debate that I am not selling the truck.... My dodge is having issues and seems to have them here and there enough that I honestly need the Chevy to be a good backup option..... Yeah your right everything does happen for a reason.... Going through a lot this year.... Divorce in the process... And quite a bit more. A lot has happened this year..... New place in the mountains at the end of this month... A lot to say the least.... One thing though is that I haven't finished the truck yet... Still needs some work..... But.... It's a work in progress I guess....
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Hopefully everything works out for you.
I'd take the $15,500 and never look back.
Thanks Fitz appreciate it..........
Yeah I probably should of your right
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Glad to see that your back & made some progress on the truck.
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Thanks fitz it's good to be back too... Yeah some progress but not a lot. I seriously could use a helping hand to finish it....
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Here is the task list for the truck.... A lot of little things to do.... Problem solving ... Etc...
My hope is to have it on the road by spring....
We will see .... Trying to get a helping hand finishing it.... Definitely could use the help.... I'm just kinda burned out on it to be honest... But there are several things I cannot do on the list... Tools are one factor, knowledge and expertise another factor , and kinda tired of going around in circles with it... I'm moving it up to the mountains soon in the next couple weeks...and I'm going to see if I can figure out some way somehow to fit it in the garage... Would make it ideal for tinkering on it.... Gotta get it up there first,, goal is to not use a tow truck..,.
CHEVY TASK LIST.
flip driveshaft around , yoke end needs to be at t-case
Tighten u bolts on axles
fuel line needs secured and tucked away
Replace wire on fuseable link to thicker wire....
Adjust distributor
Time engine with light
Tighten bumpers
Tighten bed bolts
Replace studs on axles and put lug nuts on all axles
Hook emergency brake up, new lines and hardware
Put shocks on.... Only 1 installed. See if they all fit... Rear may not fit? Might need to weld shock mounts in proper place on rear axle
Fix frame and have it welded correctly
Rewire and fix gauges
Seal up headlights , they are loose....
Install radiator electric fans
Install gauge in dash
Hook up the vacuum advance
Get battery hold down clamp
Hook secondary dual fuel feed line up to carb
Make sure carb is not leaking
Have truck aligned
Install door panel with new hardware
Replace passenger door lock
Fix the rusty areas that have formed Rocker panels , and floor holes, body mount bracket needs fixed
Check steering and suspension, engine, trans etc
Clutch needs spring
Foot pedal needs return spring
Carb throttle bracket needs hooked up properly.
Needs dash pad
Interior dome light
Needs new carpet
Needs New seat
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Your list is a perfect start.
Don't feel overwhelmed.
Focus on getting your truck drivable, safe, and reliable.
I recommend you prioritize the list starting with the drivetrain.
1) Oil pressure, start, cooling, steering, and brakes in your driveway.
2) Safe to drive around the block.
3) Make the truck reliable so that it always starts, cools, runs, and stops (brakes).
Everything else on your list is easy and can wait.
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Oops, I missed your PM.
I'll be happy to stop by and see if I can help you get going again.
How about this for a goal?
We drive our trucks up Pikes Peak to the summit house for their "world renowned" doughnuts by May 2016
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You think so ? Well thanks I'm trying not to feel overwhelmed, but it is a little bit. As far as may goes I'm not exactly sure if that's going to happen, but with your help it may be possible...yeah. Your right half on my list can wait on the easy stuff... I just need to get it rolling forward and backward on the road for starters, like you said just get in the road first...love to be able to drive up pikes peak in May..... I've got my work cut out that's for sure...never had one of their doughnuts but I bet it's good stuff.
As far as I know. Oil pressure gauge is working. Seems to have good pressure and steady increased pressure with increased rpm...
Truck stays cool and operates the thermostat like it should.... Just needs the dual electric fans reinstalled
It has brakes hooked up. But needs the emergency parking brake hooked backed up