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Offline mini_etr77

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gm corpo 14 bolt rearend to front end swap
« on: February 23, 2012, 10:29:13 pm »
I pulled a 14 bolt gm rear end out of a dually a 77 dually I had(rust bucket). I waas wondering how I could go about getting it fliped or whatever to run it in the front, 77 chevy stepside 4x4 I already have the same one in the back iits the 10.5 inch ring gear
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Re: gm corpo 14 bolt rearend to front end swap
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2012, 11:35:26 pm »
Much obliged
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Re: gm corpo 14 bolt rearend to front end swap
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2012, 07:48:52 pm »
I have watched this over and over again and have it on my DVR so if you decide to do it post pics of each stage and let us know what it realy took to do it. I mean i don't think he is lying but seeing it done with out the magic of TV would be nice.
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Re: gm corpo 14 bolt rearend to front end swap
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2012, 11:27:13 pm »
What vehicle are you wanting to put it in?  You might have issues offsetting the diff and finding axle tube and shafts long enough to put it under a full size rig.  They cut it down to fit a jeep so they just cut one side to offset and narrow.
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Re: gm corpo 14 bolt rearend to front end swap
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 09:48:40 pm »
Great point on the wheel track. Definitely something to look at before diving into. I have yet to watch those shows, but have them DVR'd.
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Re: gm corpo 14 bolt rearend to front end swap
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 11:21:56 pm »
wow sweet shows!!!  They do breeze over diff alignment for the front install though. I mean i know its not a rocket ship but its important to explain how they measured the outputs on the np 205 to determine axle tube length. Also excellent point that you may be need to lengthen one shaft depending on application.

definitley makes me want to do a disc conversion. wonder if its that easy on a dual wheel setup, im gonna take some measurements this week and i'll reply with any more insight.
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Re: gm corpo 14 bolt rearend to front end swap
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2012, 12:56:13 pm »
Ok, i started measuring and got confused pretty quickly. Turns out the c&c drw 14b is the shortest at 63.5 followed by the srw @67.5. The longest was the drw pickup(non c&c)@  72".

This gives excellent description for id your 14b.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/14b_bible/
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Re: gm corpo 14 bolt rearend to front end swap
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2012, 09:30:52 pm »
I'm putting it in my 77 stepside, once I can afford it.
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Re: gm corpo 14 bolt rearend to front end swap
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2012, 12:00:08 am »
If you have the np 205 its ~9.5" center/center between front and rear outputs. This will be offset from center for the 14b pinion location.

I would use your existing front axle (d44 or 60?) as a guide for the overall length(steering knuckle - steering knuckle) and spring perch location. Find the 14b front steer kit online and get knuckle dimensions. Using that as a reference point to determine how much to trim from the pass side and if the drv side is long enough.

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Re: gm corpo 14 bolt rearend to front end swap
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2012, 08:42:42 am »
don't forget 14bolt ff has offset pinion to begin with, might not be in the direction you need, but it still has to be calculated for.
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Re: gm corpo 14 bolt rearend to front end swap
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2012, 07:18:15 pm »
Custom Differentials in Bloomsdale, MO has done a ton of one-off custom front axle builds.

Give them a call, they should be able to help.
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Re: gm corpo 14 bolt rearend to front end swap
« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2012, 11:31:43 am »
I think a Dana 60 would be cheaper to do.

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Re: gm corpo 14 bolt rearend to front end swap
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2012, 12:09:50 pm »
I'm with fitz on this one to. I don't really want to bash what you'r doing because if I had the cash it would be a really neat thing but whats the advantage of this? I get it that the 14bolt is stronger but are you really going to need the thing? It's like putting a 14 bolt rear end in a chevette with the isuzu diesel, just seems like overkill. If you do end up doing it though let us know as it's wicked cool looking from the videos.
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