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Re: IGNITION 101:
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2008, 01:57:52 pm »
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Offline Stewart G Griffin

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Re: IGNITION 101:
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2008, 01:23:29 am »
Ok finally, i think i'm going to go with the R45 plugs (or new delco equivalents) for now.  i have the stock iron heads and i hear no-seize is a good idea.

a)what brand of no-seize and how much should i use?

b)what torque should the plugs be installed at?



By the way, speaking of ignitions, here's something i've been wondering:
Remember in the Shining when Jack gets locked in the refridgerator and says "Wendy, you're not going anywhere!"  And then laughs histerically;  (he had apparently cut all the ignition wires but left the distributor cap on the radiator)   (will try to find a youtube link if possible)

Assuming you were Wendy,
What would you have done?  What could you have done?
  Personally, i would have looked for 8 coat hangers and tried to rig up some temporary "wires."  but i'm not sure this would work.

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Re: IGNITION 101:
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2008, 04:42:28 am »
You should be running R43CTS plugs in your engine. Why would you run an R45?

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Re: IGNITION 101:
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2008, 11:56:04 pm »
Because:
1) the auto parts stores say it is the right one.

2) Everyone is saying 45's are the right one.

3) All the books, such as Chilton's (and i agree, Chilton's aren't the best) say R45's

Upon thinking about it, i probably agree that the 43's are better since i do mostly highway driving, but i figured that, for now, 45's would be a good baseline, starting point for me.  45's are sort of middle of the road.

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Re: IGNITION 101:
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2008, 04:46:05 am »
Most GM techs are aware of the fact that even GM has issued a TSB suggesting all catalogs should be updated and these plugs should be replaced with R43CTS... By now all of them should have dropped the C (Copper) R43TS. I just posted this bulletin on here somewhere... but that's too hot a plug and what year is your truck?
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Re: IGNITION 101:
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2008, 10:43:55 am »
It's an 83, but the engine is not stock to the truck;  The engine is the crate 350, 260 horse version.  The engine itself is completely stock---low compression heads etc.  The original carb and intake from the 305 were swapped over.  Stock exhaust manifolds.



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Re: IGNITION 101:
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2008, 10:07:58 am »
So anyways, i went with the R45Ts'es and Bosch wire kit a few weeks ago.  i decided to go with Bosch because they(authorized delco store) wanted $60 something for the stock kit and the Bosch kit was $30 something at Autozone, plus i don't really make it out to that section of town that often where the delco distributor is at.  The dealer wanted $84!  i decided to go with the 45's because i figured that would be a good baseline to start off at.  i will most probably switch down to 44's or 43's later because of another reason which i will get into in a sec.

By the way, changing plugs and wires is/was a pain.  It is a straightfoward procedure, but unless you are 6'-9" or something, it is physically difficult as with many other procedures when working on a 73-87.

When the engine is first started up, it idles as smooth as glass.  Well at least compared to before.  There's no more backfiring and everything is basically ok, and i'm happy with it.

Anyways, i would like to get back to the other, burning question:

And this is something, i've always wondered about.

As in the case of "The Shining,", and i'm desperately trying to find a video clip of what i'm referring to, let's say you were at a very remote location with no other people and your wife or husband went mad and was trying to murder you and your child and they either took or cut the ignition wires.

How would you get out of there?  What would you do if you were Wendy?  Assume Mr. Hallerand IS NOT coming. 

Would using coat-hanger wires work?  Remember, this is a hotel.

2) Let's take it a step further and say that Jack also took the distributor cap(because it the movie he didn't, but let's say in this case he DID.)   Then what?

 
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Re: IGNITION 101:
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2008, 12:12:30 pm »
Then you're screwed so you better kill Jack and take it back. BTW you wanna share whatever you're drinkin with us?  :P
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Re: IGNITION 101:
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2008, 10:50:58 pm »
Maybe over the weekend I can head up the canyon and talk to Jack. What a beautiful setting just outside of Rocky Mountain National Park. I'll probably head up there over the 4th of July and take the Vette up there as there is usually a car show that weekend and always makes for a nice drive regardless.

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Re: IGNITION 101:
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2008, 11:08:00 pm »
As in the case of "The Shining,", and i'm desperately trying to find a video clip of what i'm referring to, let's say you were at a very remote location with no other people and your wife or husband went mad and was trying to murder you and your child and they either took or cut the ignition wires.

How would you get out of there?  What would you do if you were Wendy?  Assume Mr. Hallerand IS NOT coming. 

Would using coat-hanger wires work?  Remember, this is a hotel.

2) Let's take it a step further and say that Jack also took the distributor cap(because it the movie he didn't, but let's say in this case he DID.)   Then what?

You reach into the glovebox for the .357? Or behind the seat for the .30-30?

Offline Stewart G Griffin

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Re: IGNITION 101:
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2008, 08:31:05 pm »
Alright, let's get serious about this very legitimate question.

It sounds like it could be Mythbuster material.

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Re: IGNITION 101:
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2008, 11:27:05 pm »
P.S., incidentally, in the book (but not in the movie) they have use of a pickup(presumably it belongs to the hotel) and i believe it is a chevy and i don't remember if it is a 73-87. If not a 73-87, it may have likely been a 67-72. i would have to checkup on this.

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Re: IGNITION 101:
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2008, 10:38:32 pm »
Hang around here long enough and everyone will have you building a new motor in no time! There is alot of knowledge here for sure.