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98 Taurus help needed Vile???
« on: March 26, 2010, 11:56:06 am »
I was asked to sell a buddies wrecked 98 Taurus and am asking what needs to be done to bypass the airbag sensors so I can start the car to move easily.  Both bags went off and I reset the fuel pump switch in the trunk but was told there something else needs to be done before it would run.  Any thoughts???  It is a bear to push.
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Re: 98 Taurus help needed Vile???
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2010, 01:32:07 am »
when i wrecked my 92 sable granted 6 years difference but i think its about the same the fuel pump switch was never tripped but the bag went off and it died. come to find out i crushed a mod that sits on top of the rad don't know what it goes to but replaced it and she was good even with out no air bag in it light was on but it never didn't start cause of it its just telling you that theres a problem with it
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Re: 98 Taurus help needed Vile???
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2010, 09:28:20 am »
You don't need to bypass the airbag crash sensors. REset the fuel pump inertia switch and try starting it. If it doesn't start describe what it's doing. Is it a crank no start? Does it have spark? Did you hear the fuel pump come on?
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Re: 98 Taurus help needed Vile???
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2010, 09:48:25 am »
No fuel pump noise, has spark wants to start with a shot of starting fluid.  I did reset the fuel pump inertia switch in the trunk, it wasn't popped up anyway.  Maybe the pump went bad by sitting. 
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Re: 98 Taurus help needed Vile???
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2010, 09:58:49 am »
You can do a few easy pinpoint tests to determine if it's the pump but first real quick check the fuses and make sure the reset worked. You can also bypass the inertia switch if you think it's faulty. There's a bulletin on those for the fuel pump wires chafing also. Let me see If I can find it.

Article No.
98-25-1

12/21/98

^ NO START - FUEL PUMP INOPERATIVE - CHAFING
OF FUEL PUMP WIRES - VEHICLES BUILT
THROUGH 6/1/1998
 
^ FUEL PUMP - CHAFING OF WIRES - VEHICLES
BUILT THROUGH 6/1/1998
 
FORD:
1996-98 TAURUS

LINCOLN-MERCURY:
1995-98 CONTINENTAL
1996-98 SABLE

ISSUE
There may be a possible chafing of the fuel pump assembly wires resulting in an open fuse and/or inoperable fuel pump assembly or a no start condition on some vehicles. This may be due to wires chafing on the hose clamps that retain the pressure and return fuel hoses. Chafing may also occur on the flange of the assembly and the tank itself.

ACTION
Install plastic sheathing onto wire harness. The plastic sheathing protects the wire and should reduce the possibility of rubbing and chafing. Refer to the following Service Procedure for details.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

1. Obtain Fuel Pump Sheathing Kit (F8PZ-9A213-BA). Service Kits should be installed when servicing any fuel pump, fuel level sender, or fuel pump/sender assembly which does not have the sheathing already in place.
 
2. Remove tie straps from wire harness on the fuel pump assembly.
 
3. Disconnect fuel pump connector and sender ground.
 
4. Select correct plastic wire sheathing (190 mm (7.5" long for most applications).
 
5. Install wire sheathing over the fuel pump wires and sender ground wire.
 
6. If possible, place yellow sender positive wire inside sheathing. If in-line connector prevents this, route sender positive wire against the outside of the sheathing.
 
7. Secure wire bundle with tie strap about 25 mm (1") from each end of the sheathing.
 
8. Tighten tie straps to prevent shifting of the wire sheathing.
 

PART NUMBER                   PART NAME

FSPZ-9A213-BA                 Fuel Pump Sheathing Kit

OTHER APPLICABLE ARTICLES: NONE
WARRANTY STATUS: Eligible Under The Provisions Of Bumper To Bumper Warranty Coverage

OPERATION       DESCRIPTION                     TIME

982501A         Install Fuel Pump               0.2 Hr.
                Sheathing Kit On Pump

DEALER CODING
                                   CONDITION
BASIC PART NO.                       CODE
9H307                                 X1

OASIS CODES: 203000, 203200, 404000, 603300
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Re: 98 Taurus help needed Vile???
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2010, 03:03:58 pm »
Vile is correct, the senors have nothing to do with the car not running. I think Irish may be on to something, those cars have a rectangle relay box on the backside of the rad. support/header panel to the Left of center. My guess would be a broken relay, blown fuse, cut wiring, ect. in this area. Hope this helps! Lorne

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Re: 98 Taurus help needed Vile???
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2010, 05:49:41 pm »
Vile is correct, the senors have nothing to do with the car not running. I think Irish may be on to something, those cars have a rectangle relay box on the backside of the rad. support/header panel to the Left of center. My guess would be a broken relay, blown fuse, cut wiring, ect. in this area. Hope this helps! Lorne

That box is fine, so is the fuel pump fuse.  I will swap the relay and see what happens.  I jumped the inertia switch just in case that was bad.
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Re: 98 Taurus help needed Vile???
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2010, 03:59:39 pm »
Fuel pump is apparently DOA.  Fuse, relay, inertia switch all checked out.  Put a fuel pressure gauge in and no pressure, however gas does seep out after I disconnect the gauge.  A squirt of fuel she wants to start.  Thanks everyone for chiming in.
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Re: 98 Taurus help needed Vile???
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2010, 10:13:26 pm »
smack the tank a few times with a dead blow hammer while someone cranks the engine
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