Flex Fuel and our old trucks

[rdhack]

I read somwhere that Flex Fuel will be fully implemented by 2010. My question is this........Will our trucks run on this ethanol shoot? If not what can we do?

[VileZambonie]

Only if modified....

http://flextek.com/index.htm

[rdhack]

So we have to purchase this midification kit  for 7-8 hundred bucks for our 8 cylinders?  Seems like the government ought to provide these free of charge. At least subsidize or give Tax credits. Well guess all that money has to go to Iraq for that 15%  OIL mixture for the corn.

[Lt.Del]

if that is indeed the case, get your cash ready....you'll be able to pick up some bargains on vehicles when we switch over to the stuff.  Many people won't bother with the modification. Sounds like an opportunity to me.

[Truckula]

I think the FlexTek product would only be required if you wanted a true flex fuel vehicle.  Where you could run either regular gasoline or E85, and some mixture of both (say you had half of a tank of regular gas and you filled up with E85).

To convert to run on just E85 doesnt seem like that big of a deal.  Looks like some carb. modifications (increase the jet size).:
http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com/id26.html

However the carb. modifications would limit the vehicle to E85 only....it would not be able to deal with a mixture of either gas or E85.

E85 burns with less BTU's which is why the carb. needs bigger jets.  The engine needs more fuel to operate the same.  Which explains why gas mileage is decreased when using E85.

[VileZambonie]

Don't worry about it - Gasoline isn't going anywhere

[87GMC2WD]

man i sure hope not, because there is no way im driving a hybrid or something electric

[75 C20]

just my opinion- but i think oil companies will wait tille e85 becomes a little more popular, than drop gas prices down(not like the cant afford to) and then everybody will still buy gas and e85 will not go over as we think it will and then they can buy up all e85 facilitys so they can still control the market
but thats just wut i think

[JJSZABO]

E85 flex fuel?  

Hydrogen is the future - Burn water!!

[77c15]

Now we all now we'll be running on flux capacitors in the near future, don't we?

[rdhack]

Guys,

Following you will read a response from BP Oil to an inquiry that I sent. I also asked Marathon, Exxon/Mobil, & Chevron-Texaco. All had similiar answers.

rdhack
1982 GMC 4x4
1986 Chevy Silverado
1986 Chevy Scottsdale






I was just curious to know the “truth” concerning Ethanol use and production.  Basically I have several older automobiles because I and a good steward over my properties. Will Petroleum based fuels continue to be available for customers like me say 10-20 years in the future if we have vehicles that need it?

1)  Yes, petroleum based fuels will be available for the next 20+ years and beyond.  This is according to the Dept of Energy confirming that we have adequate petroleum reserves for the next 20+ years.

 
Are these computer conversion kits just a money making scheme based on all the talk of going totally E85 Ethanol in just a few years?

2)  All vehicles are different and we recommend that you contact the vehicle manufacturer in regards to compatibility with E85 if you are going to install an after market conversion kit to your vehicle to try and convert it into a FFV.  There is not enough ethanol currently available to convert the entire nation to E85 or in the near future.  We do not even have enough ethanol at this time to convert the entire country to E10 which is compatible with all vehicles, so I would not worry about the country switching to E85 as the main gasoline in the future.  The industry is currently investigating higher blends such as E15 or E20 as a better alternative to E85 as it seems that they may be able to be used in existing automobiles without modification.

 
By the way, I enjoy using your products.
 
Basically I am not sure what I should do. Do I need to get rid of my antique carburated vehicles? Should I go ahead and try to convert my fuel injected vehicles?

3) There is no need to get rid of your antique vehicles or vehicles with carburetors. Today's gasolines work very well with these vehicles and the current gasoline slate will be around for quite some time. 




 
Any enlightenment on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,

[VileZambonie]

Don't worry about it - Gasoline isn't going anywhere