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[malibu795]

the vet lost at the 60' mark

vets 2.47/13.1 to the vans 1.92/13.3.. that aint making up ~.5 tenths


vet driver cant drive.

[N2TRUX]

Making a blanket statement that buying your kid a car is a bad thing is rather short sited. If you have a kid that is very involved in sports, academics, and community projects it leaves very little time for work. My daughter is one of those that worked a Summer job, but did not make enough to pay for a car.

Even the new vs used argument doesn't always hold water. I chose to buy her a new car after looking at the incentives offered vs a used car. I could get great incinteves with a very low rate on a new car, or buy a used car with little or no warranty, and pay a higher rate.

[Layne]

I'm kinda one the kid side here, but I inheireted my Grandpas car after he passed, and worked my but off redoing his house to sell so I could have that car.  I've had it since I was sixteen and I've dumped almost as much money into it as my $350 C-10. Its a great car, considering how many people hate the citation, but I've earned it and it's never let me down. I have my own house now and my g/f has two kids, and I think it would be perfect for them when they're of age.  It's reliable at a price- as long as you check the oil everytime you fuel it up- it's a burner- that car will go forever with minor matainence. Just my .02

[Lt.Del]

if the parents give them a car to use then the parents can take it away at a moments notice.

Hockey puck. parents don't have to give the kid a car to hold it over their head.  They are juveniles.   Everything should be held over their head, no matter who or how paid for.  They live under your roof, your rules.

So by that reasoning, if the kid buys a gun and hunts a lot, the kid has an accident with the gun, accidental discharge or whatever, then the parent can't take the gun away? HA!  Who's gonna be sued when a bad accident happens?  Hint: The Parent!  'cuz junior is a juvenile.

I built my first car at 15.  Engine, rear, interior, bodywork, everything.  i put my sweat and money in it (BTW, I've been working since i was 11, and riding my bicycle to work, but that's another story).  And yes,  my dad enforced the knowledge that driving was a priveledge.  He was the parent.  I was the juvenile. That was understood. I screw up, the car sits.  It happened a few times, but, i was a better kid for it.

[zieg85]

if the parents give them a car to use then the parents can take it away at a moments notice.

Hockey puck. parents don't have to give the kid a car to hold it over their head.  They are juveniles.   Everything should be held over their head, no matter who or how paid for.  They live under your roof, your rules.

So by that reasoning, if the kid buys a gun and hunts a lot, the kid has an accident with the gun, accidental discharge or whatever, then the parent can't take the gun away? HA!  Who's gonna be sued when a bad accident happens?  Hint: The Parent!  'cuz junior is a juvenile.

I built my first car at 15.  Engine, rear, interior, bodywork, everything.  i put my sweat and money in it (BTW, I've been working since i was 11, and riding my bicycle to work, but that's another story).  And yes,  my dad enforced the knowledge that driving was a priveledge.  He was the parent.  I was the juvenile. That was understood. I screw up, the car sits.  It happened a few times, but, i was a better kid for it.

I totally agree...  similar story working since I was 12.  Luckily I haven't had to take anything away from my oldest.  He did the good grades and sports, I provided the vehicle and he paid the gas and insurance.  Now he is putting himself through college with scholarships earned.  Give and take but until they hit the magic age we are responsible....

[bigkountry]

I've been working since I was 12 also. Helped my father out doing construction, slinging hay and mowing yards. I bought my first truck when I was 14, a $500 75 scottsdale. My parents told me it was my responsibility to take care of it, no handouts form them at all.

I took it out hotrodding and blew the engine after having it a mere week after I got my license, so it sat until I made enough to replace the engine. I learned my lesson form that, also had it taken away...even though ti was bought with my money for fighting in school.

I agree with the ones that believe that a kid should be punished if they do wrong.

[78 Chevyrado]

This would be me and my kid....
http://www.break.com/index/kid-loses-argument-with-his-mom.html

[Lt.Del]

that mother should get parent of the year award.  I love it.  Little pep squeak kept saying "5 minutes, 5 minutes, 5 minutes.."  Shoot, I'd do the same thing.   Good for her.  Next time Jr. gets a command, he'd better comply.

My 4 yr old is already learning his mommy is not strict.  She lets him call the shots to some extent.  We have heated discussions about that.  My boy knows if I tell him something, i don't let it go and there are repercussions if he doesn't comply.  It's easy at that age.  all I have to tell him is "no toys tonight" and he jumps right up does what he supposed to.  He remembers I don't give hollow threats. I follow through with my promises and he knows I am serious.   My wife hasn't figured that out yet.  She lets him get by with so much and I tell her it will get worse with time.  Now is the time to instill respect towards authority.  He doesn't respect her as much and it will only get worse.

[bigkountry]

My wife and I do the same as you and yours there SgtDel.

It especially gets worse when you bring the grandma's into the picture, there is no wrong in their eye's.