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Offline txchainsawgogi

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leaking carb questions
« on: February 07, 2011, 06:36:29 pm »
ok, so im replacing the carb as soon as i can but i still need to get to work (and my motorcycle has a flat rear tire) so any suggestions would be nice.

the carb was leaking pretty bad and it was causing it to run terribly. i replaced the main gasket between the intake and the carb, then it ran really well twice... and now today its leaking again.

its coming from the sides near the vacuum break assembly and at the top right hand side from (what looks like) out of the pump assembly rod.
are all my o rings just shot to heck from old age?

ill try to get these pics to work...
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Offline jaredts

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2011, 05:34:38 am »
You could do a quick rebuild in a few hours.  It looks like your accelerator pump is leaking, but I'm not sure where the fuel is coming from on the other side of the carb.  If its all running out of the accelerator pump and running down the other side you can take the air horn off and replace it without even taking the carb. off the truck--far less than an hour's work.

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2011, 07:04:54 am »
     I am with jaredts, it is not hard to rebuild your carb., it looks like your floats might be sticking also flooding your carb and running out where ever it can.  I would say buy a kit, take it off and rebuild, then your o-rings, gaskets, floats and needle and seat would all be new.  I didn't look too close if it was a q-jet, but if it was make sure to get new throttle bushings also.
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Offline txchainsawgogi

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2011, 01:00:28 pm »
I'm a little scared to do a rebuild on it, I don't want to waste the time and money and have it still be messed up.

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2011, 01:22:44 pm »
I'd do a quick rebuild, it's prolly fairly clean in there. I wouldn't worry about the throttle bushings right now. That can wait until you get time to refurbish the carb right or if you prefer, to put an aftermarket carb on there. Just keep track of everything as you reseal the carb.

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2011, 01:49:15 pm »
No need to waste money on buying a aftermarket carb. If your going to go through the hassle (which isnt much) of rebuilding the carb (which wont take long-couple hours at most), DO the throttle bushings. Rebuild kits are cheap. Buy a book on how to rebuild and tune them properly as well. They have them in the book section at the auto parts stores.

Offline txchainsawgogi

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2011, 03:24:00 pm »
the thing about it is that i need it fixed soon. i cant get a good rebuild kit locally so i'd have to mail order it :(. i can get a rebuilt rochester locally though.

i'll see what kind of kits autozone/oreilly has... but last time i checked they only had brands that i saw had a negative rep on here.

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2011, 04:17:20 pm »
The oreillys here had a Walker brand rebuild kit for the stock rochester qjet for like 16 bucks. Maybe yours will have it to?
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Offline TexasRed

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2011, 04:33:33 pm »
I'd say, you're better off getting a new tire for the motorcycle and taking your time with the rebuild. But when I was in Austin last thursday, it was like 17 degrees in the morning. Brrrrrrr. I'd steer away from those parts store rebuilds.

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2011, 09:13:35 pm »
When you do order the kit, make sure it has the throttle bushings. Check with summit or jegs too. I think there is a online carb place that has them too, someone posted something about it on here. Try searching it.

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2011, 09:37:29 pm »
Search for cliff's high performance.  Has a good book out too. 

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2011, 07:00:02 am »
I've never done throttle bushings.  The reason is that it requires special tools.  You can buy a kit that comes with a long reamer that guarantees the two bushing bores are parallel so the shaft can have a tight fit but not bind.  This kit is a little on the expensive side for me (well over $100 iirc).  You can do a cheap parts store rebuild for under $30, but if the bushings are necessary I personally wouldn't do it myself.  Its not that I think its hard, its just that you're getting into enough money that its not worth it to me compared to buying a rebuilt carb. that already has bushings installed.  Unless the shaft is really loose a rebuild will yield acceptable results.  If rebuilding it yourself is not in the cards than shop around for a rebuilt one or get a brand new quadrajet from Edelbrock (I think they're still available) or dare I say it--an aftermarket carb.--blasphemy!

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2011, 09:43:28 am »
I got the bushing kit from Cliff's and it was about $75 if I remember right. It came with the special bit and enough extra screws and bushings to do 2 carbs. I used it successfully on my own and on my neighbor's q-jet from an 80 K10. The most tedious part was bending the linkage arm so that the main throttle shaft will come unhooked and slide out without breaking the rod. It's really a pretty easy task but there is some risk of screwing it up big time.
To anyone that does this themselves:
DO NOT try to remove the little screws holding the throttle plates in the traditional manner.
DO twist the heads off by overtightening and then use a very sharp small vice grip to grab the other end and thread them the rest of the way out. They are peened on the end and do want want to be threaded back through the hole.
Only drill as deep as you have to, but make sure that the bushing doesn't extend past the outside edge of the plate or the end of the shaft won't stick out of the other end far enough to put everything back together.
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Offline txchainsawgogi

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2011, 10:03:36 am »
I'm gonna do the rebuild to fix the leak, but imholding off on the bushings myself.

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Re: leaking carb questions
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2011, 10:26:27 am »
Before you rip anything apart you can diagnose whether the throttle shaft is leaking or not pretty easily. Grab the throttle on the driver's side of the carb where the cables hook up. Without turning it (to give it more gas) just pull the entire thing forward, and push it back towards the firewall a few times. If you can hear any whistling or it makes the idle surge you know that it's leaking. Also if it feels like there is excessive play it probably leaks when the throttle is opened up a bit, or it's going to be starting to leak very soon. If it's good and tight, don't worry about it, but if it's sloppy or it obviously leaks, don't waste your time and money on rebuilding the carb unless you put the bushings in too. It will never ever run right. The bushing install is nothing to be worried about. You can't really screw up drilling the holes because of the way the bit is designed. I've got a picture of it on here someplace in another thread. About the worst thing that can happen is you break the linkage rod or twist off one of the screws and can't get it out, but if you take your time you'd have no trouble at all. But definitely check it before you take the carb off.
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