Thanks for the replies. All new suspension , did a frame off resto. I let the suspension settle with the contol arms loose . I found specs where the old 250/6 weighed 680lbs without emmisions. My 383 is around 475 and has no smog. I bought a set of summit 3" drop springs, but this are so stiff the thing will ride worse the a tank? Ill try and get a pic on this evening. Thanks again