Saggy pants laws----WRONG!

[Stewart G Griffin]

While i don't like saggy pants either---i think it's stupid.  It's even stupider to make a law against it.

It's all over the net so i won't post any links.  i think some Ga towns have the law and i think florida has it.


a) If the majority of people who wear their pants like this were responsible, were not delinquents, did not use/deal drugs then it would be okay?   The lawmakers seem to think this will cure the problem;   What do these things have to do with wearing pants low?   

b) If a peson's underwear is covering the important parts, to me this qualifies as clothing and therefore there is no exposure, therefore what is the real problem?   What if i wore shorts but no underwear?   What is the difference?

This is completely wrong.

[78 Chevyrado]

Its a total over reach of govt, as usual.  I can tell you what it is right now, but not on this site....  GA isn't known to be to progressive in its thinking.

[three8six]

In my township, it is illegal. They just use it as one more way to practice illegal search and seizure.

[Lt.Del]

Instead of making new nit-picking infractions (laws), what leaders should do is look at laws that are on the books now.  ie:  what is the definition of indecent exposure?  Should that be broadened?  They shouldn't look at it from the direction of pants being so many inches below the waist or whatever.  Look at it from the other direction, existing laws that may need to be tweaked.
To me, since society has stipulated that no one can walk around au naturale, does that include just having underwear? If underwear (or lack thereof) is visible, does that constitute a violation of the law?
Don't put more laws on the books, tweak what is already there to fit the times.
I personally couldn't care less if it is just me seeing these things, but, (excuse the pun), but, if his frekin waistband is half way down his thighs and his undergarments are as visible as his ignorance and my family has to see this, I have a problem with that.
I applaud these airlines for kicking people off the planes and such, but, don't agree with their apologies later once the media gets a hold of it.  Get a backbone!!  Take a stand and be proud instead of folding from the media hype.

[Grim 82]

It's all because the lawmakers are getting a big kickback from the belt & suspenders lobby

They just use it as one more way to practice illegal search and seizure.

^this

[low budget]

Check this out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMwhl4IrPNc

[bake74]

     I remember that, simon had to control himself.  In Sac. area, it is not only that they have their pants down, they have them so far down they have to walk with there knees out and there feet 3 feet apart.  It cracks me up and all I can think about is 10 years from now they will not be able to walk because they have destroyed there legs and knees.
     Everyone around them are laughing at them, and for some reason they don't like that too much, I really can't figure that one out.  As the saying goes, if you want to be successful, dress successful.  Dress like a gang banger, get treated by the cops as a gang banger.  Some of the laws that govern us a human beings just can not be messed with or changed.  Human nature is human nature.

[Blazin]

I have said it for year. If I was a cop I would be writing thses tool bags tickets for indecent exposure

[ehjorten]

If they knew where this style came from they wouldn't be emulating it

[bake74]

     That logic does not work with people who wear their pants like that.  I used to be a bouncer at a popular night club here in Sac, and the policy was to not let in ( or throw out ) any body who pulled there pants down.  So I got tired of tossing idiots out and decieded to try and educate them to see if I could get them to grow up, it never worked, they don't think that it applies to them.

[Stewart G Griffin]

i just don't think there is any logic or fairness behind these laws.

i used to work with a guy that did this, while i thought it was really dumb i could not see anything---he had boxers on.  Therefore, there was nothing to really get directly offended by.  Now, if his underwear also started to slide you can bet i would went to the supervisor about that.

We have to look at what is the technical definition of indecent exposure----we can't just make it up on the spot to suit our needs.   i don't have time to research right now, but i would think if everythings covered up then you're good.   Example, you may know i'm into biking.  i've worn my bicycle shorts many times.  No one complained, but it sure did attract some attention.   Or what if you go to the beach/pool/spa etc?   The beach and pools are usually a public place.   Does this mean everyone should be arrested or ticketed?

i also don't like the whole gold teeth thing.  Should we enact a law against that as well?

Here's another thing----i don't like the idea of painting a tattoo on my skin.   Yes, that's right i said it-----I DON'T LIKE TATTOOS and i don't like tattoos on other people.   But i agree with a person's right to have one or more.


We can't impose our preferences on other people when their behaviour/or actions don't directly offend or endanger us.   The idea of freedom is what makes our society great.  i thought so at least.

i think these laws are completely anti- American and bordering on racist.

[beastie_3]

How is it racist? Are you saying that only a certain race does this? Ill disprove that.

[Grim 82]

This doesn't have anything to do with indecent exposure, and it has nothing to do with race. Watch an episode of cops and see people of all colors getting thrown in the back of the car, with their saggy pants falling down.

20 years ago you might be targeted by cops for long hair and tattoos. Today's version is saggy pants.

Do I think that targeting people that look like a bunch of crack head gangbangers might produce more legitimate arrests? Absolutely. Do I think that the .gov should legislate matters of fashion? Absolutely not.
$16 trillion in debt with no end in sight and this is how they spend their time?

[thirsty]

Years ago I worked for a commercial roofing company. I paid my dues and moved into an office job there. When we hired people they had to go through me first. I thought exactly like the owners of the company when it came to the baggy/saggy pants. We did not discriminate at all, one thing for sure was nobody was going to work for us that was not going to be an asset to the business. If somebody walked in with his pants down to fill out a job application he didn't have a very good chance of us even considering him. How could you look like you have one once of hustle in you if are dressed like that? I'm from the days when you took your lunch box to a job interview so you could start right then and there. First impressions mean alot, especially in todays economy I would think. The best way I found to get a feel if I should even consider an applicant was with a handshake. If you are applying for a physical job like that then you needed to already have some caluases on those hands. 99.9% of the time guys wearing the baggy pants with the flat brimmed cap turned sideways when I shook there hand it was like shaking my daughter's hand. I had nothing against the look although I thought it was stupid, they just got no respect from me in a real life situation.

[Irish_Alley]

you know the saying that the majority of criminals are one race. well where i work its true and i can say this that one race is the only race that we have to tell to pull up there pants. now other races will let them hang lose but they dont sag well the majority. now on the streets it goes both ways that football player who got kicked off a plane. it wasn’t cause he sagged his pants it was they asked him to pull them up he refused so then they kicked him off and every web site i saw about this said it was a racist issue. well if hes the only one who was sagging and the others around him where all races they didnt get kicked off only him, this is an idiot issue. then they said he was grieving for the lost friend. its life people die doesn’t mean if you lose a love one you get a "get out of jail free" card and get to break any rule you want. but certain citys are different look at ny with the naked cowboy and cowgirl. i remember hearing about some adult dancers in vegas that where in a moving van of some sort and instead of normal walls they has Plexiglas so you can see in, if i remember right if you are in a car it not indecent to be nude but they were dancing in the van. cops pulled them over just because what they were doing and since they couldnt get them for indecent exposer they wrote them all tickets for not wearing their seat belts