Half ton dually

[velojym]

On the way home from Advance with my new alternator and battery for Earl... we stopped for a couple things at a nearby Dollar General.
While my wife was inside, I noticed this unusual looking truck and struck up a conversation with the owner when he came out. Turns out, this is a half ton truck, tinkered with for his tree-surgery business. Under the hood, a 327 'vette mill, a "one ton" tranny (didn't get specifics), and a one-ton rear. I didn't notice the dual wheels until we were leaving, so I swung over and whipped out my cellphone to take a pic.
He told me he has a mess of these trucks, and to give him a call if I wanted to chat about 'em, or even tinker a bit, but he's not real interested in giving up any of his collection. He likes having plenty of different parts, and these trucks are almost modular in how a clever mechanic can change the whole nature of one of 'em with a few parts and some ingenuity.

[bake74]

     Since the rear fenders are not flared, he stuck a 1 ton dually rear end under her.  I like the fact that it just barely sticks outside the fender on the dually tires.
     Gotta love that tie down job with the rope. 

[velojym]

Yeah, if it were even a potential legal issue, it wouldn't take much more than an off-road style fender flare to make up for the exposed width.
...and yeah, I might not have made it clear, but he pieced everything together out of his collection.

[Blazin]

Thats a cab and chassis rear end. A dually rear is the same width as a standard pickup rear, 1/2 or 3/4 ton. The whole tire would be sticking out.

[velojym]

I didn't get to talk for him for very long, but I got the idea that he has a pile of trucks I'd love to get lost in for a few hours.

[Stewart G Griffin]

i'm sure i see the point of it?   Why not just get a 1 ton truck?

Nice paint job though.

[velojym]

He seemed to think it's easier to fit his truck into places without the ghetto hips, while still retaining a weight carrying advantage over the old 1/2 ton single axle.
But, even better, it's just frickin' cool.

[ssapach]

I was once told that the cab and chassis dually rear end was a slightly narrowed 14-bolt and that any other dually rear ends on these trucks would be a Dana 70HD.

Is this true or was I misinformed?

[bobcooter]

Thats a cab and chassis rear end. A dually rear is the same width as a standard pickup rear, 1/2 or 3/4 ton. The whole tire would be sticking out.

I was once told that the cab and chassis dually rear end was a slightly narrowed 14-bolt and that any other dually rear ends on these trucks would be a Dana 70HD.

Is this true or was I misinformed?

Yeah guys, what exactly is a cab and chassis rear end? Never heard of one. I really like the way it looks.

[Stewart G Griffin]

Thats a cab and chassis rear end. A dually rear is the same width as a standard pickup rear, 1/2 or 3/4 ton. The whole tire would be sticking out.

I was once told that the cab and chassis dually rear end was a slightly narrowed 14-bolt and that any other dually rear ends on these trucks would be a Dana 70HD.

Is this true or was I misinformed?

Yeah guys, what exactly is a cab and chassis rear end? Never heard of one. I really like the way it looks.

Well, if you look closely at a brochure or maybe a C+chassis on the street you'll notice that the rear axle is narrower than on a crew cab---hence the need for the fender extensions.

But to confuse the issue further, aren't there actually 3 different widths?  i saw a setup where there were able to get the entire dual wheels completely under the stock fleetside without it sticking out at all

[Blazin]

A cab, and chassis is just that. A 1 ton with a cab only for sheet metal. They have a 14 bolt full floating rear axle that is narrower from back plate to back plate than a 14 bolt found in the 3/4, and 1 ton pickups. The wheel base on a cab and chassis is not quite the same as a 3/4 or 1 ton pickup either, slightly longer. They are built to spec by dealers, body companies, consumers what have you. Tool body, flat bed, dump body.

Duellies are a 1 ton pickup with a standard 8 foot bed except the quarter panels are stamped cut out, and fiberglass rear fenders that look like a step side beds are bolted on to them.
As far as I know they only ever had Dana 70s in them. They are the same width as a 1/2, 3/4 or 1 ton pickup rear axle.

As far as "crew cabs  ". The duellies, / cab, and chassis were offered in crew cabs. Cab configuration has nothing to do with it. Same goes for C & K series. Doesn't matter if its a 2 or 4 wheel drive the cab, and chassis had the same rear axle width.

[bobcooter]

Ahhh! I see. Thanks Blazin!