Ethanol in fuel

[78 Chevyrado]

When I finally do have to replace the rubber hoses on top of my gas tanks, they will be replaced with teflon hoses, with SS braiding on the outside and no clamps, they will be hard fittings, and permanent.

Will be using these guys' stuff.  Makes all AN stuff look like junk.
http://www.swagelok.com/

I got the hookup on this stuff.  it's used in nuclear reactors and for fiber optics draw towers.  expensive, well not so much to me as I get it at cost, but I'll only ever buy it once.  lifetime!  lol

[melocochevy84]

something else to consider is alcohol attracts water and we all know water and gas dont mix

[Irish_Alley]

and this is why i dont get fuel when i see a tanker filling up the station

[78 Chevyrado]

This E10 junk may be the deciding factor to weather my next engine had EFI or not.  Best I can figure, with my old school carb and the "UPTO 10%" spec, My trucks probably not running at peak effeciency unless i retune it for each tank of fuel I get.  Ain't gonna happen.  I want EFI.  It tuns as you drive, The ultimate set it and forget it setup.  I'm tired of my truck either Idling high, or idling low and having to two foot it, or it knocks sometimes, but not other times....     With the truly crap fuel we have these days, EFI is the only way to go.  3 of my cousins from different parts of the country told me they have GASOLINE available with no ethanol...  I'm truly jealous.  I would pay the extra, no question.  I'm so jealous.  Never see or heard of any place with actual GASOLINE in my area or in a 350 mile circle.

[Irish_Alley]

i thought it was my tuck that was so far out of tune. cause it seams it does change idle and how it drives every time you turn around

[78 Chevyrado]

some of it, a little bit, is the small leaks around my throttle shafts on my 2000 mile edelbrock 1406 junk carb.

But even before that, it acted up.

People don't notice, but nowhere does it say all gas has 10% ethanol in it.  It says "UP TO 10%"  could be 0%  could be 9% could be 4%.  it makes a difference to a carb.  I think this is the govts way of getting old junky trucks like mine off the road.  I may end up with a later LS-Whatever in my truck.  guess either way, Gubmint wins...

Before E10.  I tuned my carb for summer and winter.  twice a year, never touched timing, all I ever did was adjust the cruise jets for the hot or cold season.  no no matter what I do it runs like crap.  I know it's not just me cuz the guys at the local cruise ins (all the carb guys)  have the same complaint as me.  AFAIK  EFI is the only fix.  I'll either end up with a ramjet 350 or a 5.3 LS engine in mine.  And I'm extremely irritated doing it because it's about double the cost of rebuilding the 78 350 I have now.

I used to get 17MPG out of my 5300lb truck shaped like a brick on the freeway at 70-73MPH with real gasoline.  Nowadays I get about 14 IF...IF...IF I go 65MPH.

Ethanol is a BS band-aid to make the EPA people look good on paper.

Everyone I've talked to who owns an E85 capable vehicle, including my own '08 Impala, says most for your money, stick with gas.  the E85 is cheaper but you lose too much economy and power to make it cost less overall.

IMO, personally, diesel is the way to go anyway.  But I do know E-whatever, isn't it. 

I also know, the OE fuel lines from the tanks on my truck looked GOOD when I changed them out after 32 years of service, I only did it because the bed was off when they were painting my truck.  I know the new EFI rated fuel lines (The Best rubber available at the time)  now look like you've slitted them all over with a razor knife, and one tank has an air leak in the line.  I also for safety reasons, replace every piece of rubber from the fuel pump to the carb every 12 months, need it or not.  And I always buy the BEST fuel hose I can possibly get.  Can't go wrong spending money there.   

Our old cars no matter the brand mean nothing to the Gubmint, cuz they're so few nowadays compared to newer cars (5 years old or newer)  That they don't have to do anything for us.  In fact I bet to the Gubmint, we are a force they think should be squashed as quickly as possible, like a dangerous bug.

[Tx_Phil]

Would one of the after market TBI kits help with this problem?  Are they capable of learning on the fly so to speak?  I know this won't help with the fuel lines and such but I would think that it would still allow you to run the engine of your choice and not have through all the trouble of a direct injection engine.

On my bike I notice a big difference in mileage and performance from one tank to the next. It's an old style carb'd air cooled V-twin and with "good" gas I can get 50mpg at 70mph. On the not good gas it drops to the low 40mpg range.

[78 Chevyrado]

Any EFI would help, as they tune themselves on the fly.

[bobcooter]

I think "up to 10 percent" is probably a lie already. Its more like 15 percent already.

[78 Chevyrado]

I'm extremely pissed today.   Just went to alabama, and filled both tanks, but one doesn't work.  The fuel valve by the tank failed.  I'm 98% certain this ethanol crap ate it up.  it's only been on there for 3 years.   The last valve lasted from 1978 to 2009.   I get the feeling I'm gonna be lifting my bed before long to put new lines in that ethanol CAN'T harm.  I like Swagelock.  Good stuff. 

We'll I have my basic tools on my truck always, otherwise I'da been OUTA GAS with 20 gallons in one tank....  that will piss you off....lol


This band-aid garbage ethanol crap....   I hate hippies, I hate eco-people.  yes, all, period.  to heck with them.   Like cartman says, dang dirty hippies.