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Offline jaden1997

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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2014, 06:22:22 pm »
Hmm alright i'll unplug the solenoid and see what happens. I'll have to look at the temp. sensor too


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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2014, 07:49:16 pm »
the temp sensor will only give you too much gas (a cold engine) just do one sensor at a time and see what she will do
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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2014, 05:21:30 pm »
I've also been looking around my distributor too. I took a look at my pickup coil and this is what it looks like. I feel like I need to replace it and see if it fixes my problem. 


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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2014, 11:09:27 pm »
i only had one pick-up coil go bad on me, on my 86 she just stopped after ridding about 20 minutes. first thing i could think of was the coil just cause the way it stopped. waited for it to cool down still no fire, replaced it with a known good one. still no fire, then came the replacement of the distributor (we always have a known good distributor laying around, i usually have one in my tool box) fired right up. replaced the coil and sat her on the shelf for next breakdown.
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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2014, 11:20:06 pm »
I'm honestly down to that coil, a sensor, or maybe the computer itself being bad. I'm running out of things to check and test lol


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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2014, 11:21:50 pm »
did you unplug the egr solenoid ?
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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2014, 11:23:13 pm »
No I didn't yet. I meant to ask.. Unplugging the vacuum lines or the pigtail at the bottom? I'm guessing pigtail


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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2014, 11:34:53 pm »
yes, pigtail
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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2014, 06:15:50 am »
Ok i'll have to try that today. I'll let you know what happens


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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2014, 09:25:19 pm »
Unplugging the egr solenoid pigtail didn't change anything. It just made the check engine light come on when i got to cruising speed lol


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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2014, 10:42:19 pm »
well im kind of out for suggestions. the only thing i can think of is a vacuum leak and i think you eliminated most of the possibilitys
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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2014, 11:25:55 pm »
may not help you out too much... but i had a similar situation. my 90 model would idle funny once it warmed up, every now and then it would stall at a stop sign or red light, but it would also try to stall when i would take off... sometimes it was random sometimes it was like clock work after checking a million things i got mad one night and pulled the dist out threw it across the yard and threw another one in that i had in my parts chest... has ran like a top ever since.

 question(s).. i know you said you have checked the obvious things but that can be different stuff for some people. have you checked the timing (make sure you used the right procedure. tbi engines are different from carb engines you have to unplug the fancy wire)
have you checked compression?
you said it idles funny if you put it in drive and hold the brake while you pus the gas does it start to miss more?

anyone else think the o2 sensor could have something to do with it? i worked on an explorer one time that had a bad o2 reading bad rich and the car actually leaned itself out trying to "correct" the fuel supply just trying to brain storm :)

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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2014, 12:07:59 pm »
well, this probably has nothing to do with it, but maybe the TCC switcjh is sticking on.  I know Cavs, Corsicas, Berettas had an issue with this in the auto trans.  its a completely different trans but this was the same complaint.  just throwing something out there.

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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2014, 12:17:11 am »
would the tcc still mess with it if he switch to neutral? the oxygen sensor doesn't do anything till the engine coolant sensor reaches operating temp. then the "cold start" kicks off and the oxygen sensor starts working regulating how much fuel. so.... it could be a problem. why did you rebuild the throttle body?
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10. The engine is revving up and down when I come
down to an idle. There is a large “sucking” sound
coming from the throttle body when it is warmed up.
My engine stalls or almost stalls when I come down
to an idle.

This is usually an indication of a vacuum leak; again make sure that you have no vacuum leaks.
 
This could also be an indication of the wrong base ignition timing. Verify that you have set your
ignition timing correctly (see #4).
 
Your engine may also require more air going through the throttle plates at idle than it is currently
set for. Here is a procedure to check this setting.
a. Make sure your engine temperature is at full operating temperature.
b. Jumper Pins A & B of the ALDL connector (I use a paper clip) with the key on but the
engine off. This is the same thing you do when checking for engine codes and your
check engine light will flash off and on.
c. Wait about 45 seconds or until any trouble codes present have flashed through; code
12 is normal (see #14) After this then unplug your IAC valve which is on the throttle
body but do not turn off the key.
d. Remove the jumper from the ALDL, turn the key off, wait 15 seconds and start the
engine. It may start hard and you may have to depress the throttle pedal a little bit to
start the engine.
e. If you have a fast idle this did not work or you have a vacuum leak that is not
repaired, or the throttle plates are already too far open. You may have to tape over the
fresh air hole that the IAC receives its air from.
f. If you do not have a fast idle then it is OK and you can proceed to adjust the throttle
plates. Let the engine idle for a little bit and then check you idle speed. The speed
should be about 575 – 600 at idle in drive or about 50 rpm less than you requested for
your chip. If it is lower than this you can raise the idle up or if it is above this determine
if you should bring the speed down. More than likely it will always be lower.
g. There is a little cap on the side of the throttle body by your throttle lever that has an
adjustment screw under it (if not already removed).
h. Remove this cap and use the screw under there to adjust your base idle speed
without the IAC operational. Base idle is to be set in drive for an automatic transmission.
i. If you have done all of this and you still have an issue we may not have received all of
the proper information to build your chip and you will need to call tech support.
 
If you have gone through all of the above procedures and the engine is still
idling too high you will need to call tech support. When you call tech support
you will need to have the following information available.
 Voltage measured between the black wire and brown wire on the TPS with the key on engine not
running__________________
Engine RPM at start up idle on a cold start___________________________
Engine RPM at idle with stabilized temperature_______________________
Engine RPM at idle with IAC fully seated or blocked off.___________________
IAC counts at stabilized idle in drive if using a scan tool____________________
Engine operational temperature_______________________
Initial ignition timing_____________________
Any information that you feel is important for diagnosing the issue at hand


The above is from HERE the only problem i have is who the heck is tech suport
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Re: 87 Blazer
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2014, 08:04:40 pm »
^^ Power hitter :D