Author Topic: Re: PROPER WAY TO TELL IF CLUTCH FAN IS WORKING?  (Read 3073 times)

Offline 76LongBox

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Re: PROPER WAY TO TELL IF CLUTCH FAN IS WORKING?
« on: November 20, 2015, 01:19:05 pm »
Reviving this old thread...

I suspect that my clutch is going out, but I'm not 100% sure.  Searched and found this thread.  Tried to spin the fan cold.  It won't "spin"...it will move as long as I'm moving it, but it won't free spin.

Does that mean the clutch is done?

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Re: Re: PROPER WAY TO TELL IF CLUTCH FAN IS WORKING?
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2015, 01:57:01 pm »
whats your truck doing?
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Re: PROPER WAY TO TELL IF CLUTCH FAN IS WORKING?
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2015, 03:28:49 pm »
Let me see if I can describe it. :)

...and maybe I have a wrong understanding of how a thermal fan clutch is supposed to work.

Basically, the fan is whirring loudly even when it's cool outside.  When I take off, even when the truck is cold, and it's cool outside, I have to get up to about 55 MPH before I can hear the fan calm down.  It of course is robbing me of power, too. 

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Re: PROPER WAY TO TELL IF CLUTCH FAN IS WORKING?
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2015, 03:08:31 am »
A conventional thermal fan clutch is filled with a viscous silicone fluid that is characterized by high shear strength.  The fan clutch has two internal chambers: 1) an open fluid reservoir and 2) a fluid coupling possessing densely spaced, interlocking, concentric rings.  Half of the rings are fixed to the drive hub that attaches to the water pump, the remaining rings are fixed to the driven support for the fan blade.  The two fluid chambers of the clutch are separated by a bimetal thermostat controlled valve.  The bimetal and valve together manage fluid distribution within the clutch.  The greater the volume of viscous fluid within the fluid coupling, the stiffer the clutch lock-up to the limit of the clutch capacity.  Hence, it is actually the presence and distribution of viscous fluid between the interlocking rings that couples the drive hub to the fan.

Now, when an engine is off for many hours, the viscous silicone fluid within the fan clutch redistributes by gravity to partially fill the fluid coupling.  As a result, the fan clutch locks up and the fan becomes difficult to turn.  However, once the cold engine starts and continues to run, the silicone fluid in the fluid coupling gradually circulates back into the reservoir and the clutch disengages the fan.  The clutch won't reengage the fan until the bimetal senses sufficient heat to open the valve, allowing the fluid coupling to recharge.  Consequently, it is normal for a viscous fan clutch to temporarily engage the fan while the engine is cold.  Heavy-duty fan clutch options exaggerate the phenomenon.
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Re: PROPER WAY TO TELL IF CLUTCH FAN IS WORKING?
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2015, 05:47:07 am »
Thanks for that explanation!!!  This is a heavy duty fan clutch, so maybe all is well after all. 

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Re: Re: PROPER WAY TO TELL IF CLUTCH FAN IS WORKING?
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2015, 06:52:16 am »
i would say so. most time when these things fail people will overheat while idling but cool down once up to highway speed
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