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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2016, 02:02:33 pm »
i was mistaken. im so used to parts stores computers not be able to tell a 91 v3500 from a 91 k3500 i always take it back to 87. the 91 does have a different switch.

this appears to have changed from the 87 style in 89 sorry in my information confused you
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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2016, 03:19:09 pm »
After cleaning it, it has a tan wire and a red wire but the end will not work. Can this work by using only the tan wire?

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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2016, 04:43:10 pm »
Post a pic.
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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2016, 05:18:58 pm »
Sorry I can not do that but I can tell you this. After hooking everything up no she won't start, I checked the plugs twice they are fine. I think that wire is not the oil wire.
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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2016, 05:32:27 pm »
Sorry but this why I could not do a picture. This the plug that I removed.
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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2016, 06:28:49 pm »
That "impressionist art" looks like the brown connector for the fuel pump relay bypass switch (one orange wire and one tan w/white stripe wire).  The tan/white wire from that connector runs to the fuel pump and ECM.  It has nothing to do with the gauge.  The single tan sender wire for the gauge should be in the vicinity of the oil filter.
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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2016, 06:54:38 pm »
So hooking the tan/white wire to the oil sender should have no affect on anything? I did take it back off but the truck still will not fire.
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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2016, 09:47:22 pm »
DO NOT CUT ANY MORE CONNECTORS OFF.  It's counterproductive.
This is the drawing from the 1985-1991 parts book showing where these engine senders are located on the 1987 LO5 & LO3 V8

The GM 10069218 gauge sender is just above the oil filter See number 25 in the above parts book drawing.  Number 9 would be in the same location for a base model warning lamp dash.



The GM 25036938 TBI Fuel Pump Oil Pressure Switch is number 22 in the above drawing near the distributor. 


Don't throw out the plug you cut off it's OBSOLETE and you can re-use the shell.  If you threw it out you'll get to scrounge one off a donor.
The part # is Delphi 12052384.  Get a wiring guru with the proper tooling, if that's not you, to extract the terminals from your plug, install new Delphi Metripack 150 or 280 terminals & wire seals on 8" sections of 16ga SXL wire, then insert the new terminals into the connector making it a repair pigtail.  They can then solder or crimp and heatshrink the pigtail to the cut off wires on your harness.
The Obsoloete plug should look similar to one of these.




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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2016, 07:48:43 am »
I did not throw away the plug, but it was not being used at the time, I do not see where it was to be plugged into. When I found it I was looking for the plug for number 22,I hope to find it yet. Is the drawing you show on line?

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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2016, 09:33:53 am »
I did not throw away the plug, but it was not being used at the time, I do not see where it was to be plugged into. When I found it I was looking for the plug for number 22,I hope to find it yet. Is the drawing you show on line?

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The drawing is from the 1985-1991 Illustration book.

The 5.0L LO3 is on the lower left of PDF page 132
The 5.7L LO5 is on the upper right of  PDF page 136
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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2016, 12:29:42 pm »
Found a blown fuse so she is back to running fine. Still need to find that wire, plan to start near the filter and work my way up.

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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2016, 04:53:36 pm »
DO NOT CUT ANY MORE CONNECTORS OFF.  It's counterproductive.
This is the drawing from the 1985-1991 parts book showing where these engine senders are located on the 1987 LO5 & LO3 V8

The GM 10069218 gauge sender is just above the oil filter See number 25 in the above parts book drawing.  Number 9 would be in the same location for a base model warning lamp dash.



The GM 25036938 TBI Fuel Pump Oil Pressure Switch is number 22 in the above drawing near the distributor. 


Don't throw out the plug you cut off it's OBSOLETE and you can re-use the shell.  If you threw it out you'll get to scrounge one off a donor.
The part # is Delphi 12052384.  Get a wiring guru with the proper tooling, if that's not you, to extract the terminals from your plug, install new Delphi Metripack 150 or 280 terminals & wire seals on 8" sections of 16ga SXL wire, then insert the new terminals into the connector making it a repair pigtail.  They can then solder or crimp and heatshrink the pigtail to the cut off wires on your harness.
The Obsoloete plug should look similar to one of these.





I just learned from another post that the wire I cut is from the stock sending which is what I want to use. How hard is it to attach a new plug?
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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2016, 03:46:48 pm »
I replaced the plug hooked it up and bought a new switch looks like I need to replace the gauge sending unit also because nothing works yet.                                                                 
DO NOT CUT ANY MORE CONNECTORS OFF.  It's counterproductive.
This is the drawing from the 1985-1991 parts book showing where these engine senders are located on the 1987 LO5 & LO3 V8

The GM 10069218 gauge sender is just above the oil filter See number 25 in the above parts book drawing.  Number 9 would be in the same location for a base model warning lamp dash.



The GM 25036938 TBI Fuel Pump Oil Pressure Switch is number 22 in the above drawing near the distributor. 


Don't throw out the plug you cut off it's OBSOLETE and you can re-use the shell.  If you threw it out you'll get to scrounge one off a donor.
The part # is Delphi 12052384.  Get a wiring guru with the proper tooling, if that's not you, to extract the terminals from your plug, install new Delphi Metripack 150 or 280 terminals & wire seals on 8" sections of 16ga SXL wire, then insert the new terminals into the connector making it a repair pigtail.  They can then solder or crimp and heatshrink the pigtail to the cut off wires on your harness.
The Obsoloete plug should look similar to one of these.





 
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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2016, 06:00:16 pm »
Great day !! The oil gauge is now working and all is well. With the temp and oil gauges working now the amp gauge is left. Hopefully it will be easier than the oil was.

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Re: Stock gauges
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2016, 10:48:59 am »
Could not get the volt gauge working so I did some searching on this forum and found I might have the two clips in the wrong spot. Changed it and now it works great! I did find that the temp gauge goes all the way to the right, I need that fixed now and my interior will be done.

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