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« on: February 11, 2020, 11:10:18 PM »


Howdy, Iím Jeremy and Iím looking forward to being a productive member here. This is the first pic I took of my Suburban on its drive home. I wanted something that could accept a piece of plywood, but also something I could stretch out in the back of. Iím 6í4Ē, so thatís out of the question in most vehicles. I started looking at suburbans and Iíve always liked the square body look. I did a bit of research and really zoned in on the 90-91 2500. Honestly, I wanted barn doors, as I think thatís the iconic suburban look. Didnít matter, after missing a couple other trucks, I found this one.
eBay find. I got it with fees for exactly $3k. In California, which I thought was better than its turned out to be. Fortunately the seller promised it ran well enough to load on a multi car hauler.
Well... itís not a rust-free as one would hope from a Cali car. Not as rust-free as Iíd believed it would be. The underside is fine, but above both front doors itís rusted through the roof and thereís rust around the rear quarter windows and a couple other places. So, good news: it ainít Midwest rust, but where there is rust itís most of the way eaten through.
I also didnít think about that there were still 49-state cars and California cars. Ultimately this isnít as big an issue as it could have been. Iím in Georgia and the truck is out of emissions compliance. And itís real unlikely that Iím gonna get a visual inspection... EVER. So $800 in shipping and the truck comes home.
I did typical tuneup stuff. Oil, plugs, cap, rotor, etc. Drove through a couple tanks:

Ouch. I went through the front end, brakes shocks. Right now Iím just focusing on drive ability, but Iíve got plans and for the first time in my life, Iíve got a budget...
About me. Again, Iím Jeremy. Iíve been fortunate in a lot of ways. Iíve got my own fab shop. It canít hold a candle to a nascar shop, but itís mine and plenty have done more with less. My day job is doing special effects for the movie biz. Turns out Iím pretty good at it and Georgia is ďYallywoodĒ these days. I put roll cages and cannons in cars, blow stuff up and generally do all the stuff my momma told me not to. And they pay me pretty well. Unfortunately I also lost my grandmother after 103 years last fall. She lived a good long life, Iíll miss her forever and she left me a few bucks.
Iím taking the next couple of weeks off work. The suburban is my project. Iíve got a Dakota Digital dash on the way, Iíll take a look here and decide if documenting mine is worth sharing. Iím gonna go ahead and remove and repair the dash as well as STEREO!!!! while Iím doing it.
Because Iím a crazy person, but have a vision. Iím actually converting the truck to full manual, windows and doors, for everything but the tailgate, like I said, I wanted barn doors, but got what I got.
After a bit of convincing Iíve convinced myself that the tail gate is better. Iíve got manual window regulators at the shop. While Iím doing speakers Iím also planning on fabricating aluminum door cards, swapping regulators and removing wiring, actuators and motors from the doors.
If I can get the interior cleaned up, the dash and stereo and windows are probably what I can do in phase one.
Ultimately the goal is a long-travel/prerunner set up. Yeah. I know Iím in Georgia, but prerunners are too cool and Atlanta is fond of their speed bumps and other ďtraffic calming measuresĒ... I want to put a full roll cage in, back half the frame with a four-link and longer A-arms in front. Weíll see how far I get there.
Drivetrain-wise... initially the plan was LS1. Maybe turbos. After settling on the 2500 C/K chassis I decided to think about keeping the big block. Still mostly thinking thatís what Iíll do. The truck has the 4L80 now, but I really like shifting. Iím on the hunt for a 5-speed. Iíve also got a deposit on a .050 over rat motor at a local machine shop.
I want to go to multiport injection. Iím fully aware a Chevrolet big block will never be ECONOMICAL, so I want to build the most EFFICIENT motor I can. Iím still debating over stroking or not the motor. Likely going package Edlebrock at this time with their multiport injection setup. I know itís gonna use gasoline, but I want to make certain Iím using that gas the best I can. I want to stick to natural aspiration, but Iím open to future turbos.

The best laid plans of mice and men.

Anyhow the point is to be active on this forum to learn from others and teach what I learn.

I replaced the rear windows


I put some seats in because my girl wouldnít even ride on the originals. Unfortunately, it seems this was originally a bench seat car, so only the outside mounts were threaded for seat mount bolts. I hate asking for help, but I had to enlist a friend to get the seats mounted. I used the factory sliders, so Iíve got front to rear adjustment, no tilt.



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Re: Hello all.
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2020, 12:01:47 AM »
welcome from maryland. i have a 91 v3500 crew cab, the 350 tbi was getting 12 mpgs and i swapped it for a 1st gen cummins and she gets 16. with bigger displacement you'll need more fuel to feed it, the cummins has power really low and i believe thats where i save fuel because the engine doesnt have to push as hard to get her up to speed. just something else to think about
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Re: Hello all.
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2020, 06:40:42 AM »
I appreciate the advice, but I am not a diesel guy. One of the things Iíve appreciated the most about my suburban ownership is that thereís nothing I canít do on it. Legally and mechanically speaking. That being said, I donít know diesels well enough to take on such a project. Lastly, the goal of this project, no matter how it ultimately turns out, is for me to build the baddest truck I can. I fully expect it to be my last gas-powered vehicle. Iím actively seeking socially irresponsible and nothing says THAT like a big block gas motor.



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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2020, 08:31:40 AM »
Rotten mileage is something Man-Squares just have to live with.  Personally, I'd rather the cruddy mileage, and have the simplicity and safety that a Square has to offer. 

Love the 'Burb BTW, and welcome from Tucson, AZ!  8)
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2020, 01:20:29 PM »
I'm with the Shifty one, I'll trade bad mileage for simplicity, safety, and STYLE!

Welcome from So Cal!

Now please give that girl a BATH...
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Re: Hello all.
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2020, 04:38:42 PM »
Thatís as clean as the current paint is gonna get. Dead ainít the word. Cremated and ashes spread is a better description. Itís on the list. I like white trucks, so itíll stay white. Iím planning on as much fiberglass as I can.

Todayís big update!!!

I SCORED a Tremec. Itíll be delivered for >$1000, still a lot of work to make it work, but Iím on the way! Honestly, I was looking for a 5-speed. I figure the torque spread of the big block shouldnít need the 6th gear. But, when it comes across your plate you take it.




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Re: Hello all.
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2020, 04:58:11 PM »
think most people see diesels and think about how complicated they're. but mine being a first gen only needs 3 wires (one fore starter one fore ground and one for the fuel shut off) its pretty simple swap and and theres no spark to worry about. if the injection pump ever screws up you can rebuild it yourself or pay 600 for one done. but i do understand some people not liking diesels and the smell gets them sick so yeah its not for everyone and the power band falls off around 2200 rpms. she can haul a trailer nice and thats what i was after.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2020, 09:20:50 PM »
I get the appeal of diesels. Trust me. My girl has a horse and desires more. She found a 97 F350 with the 7.3L and I had no issues lending her the money to buy it. It doesnít change the fact that I donít fundamentally understand diesels, nor do I have the tools to work on them. That fundamental misunderstanding when it came to fixing the first problem on the super duty. Glow Plug Relay. GPR in the parlance. My understanding of glow plugs WAS that they functioned like a choke for a diesel. I never imagined they functioned continuously.
In any case, I feel like Iím biting off MORE than enough with the scope of this project as I see it. Manual transmission swap, cage, long travel, etc. I donít see the gains in swapping out the entire fuel system as well. Especially when part of the purpose is to build an irresponsible GAS motor. As it stands, no matter how much torque the Ford 7.3L makes and how junky the 200k mile 454, peanut port, low compression clapped out ANCHOR is, the suburban walks on the Ford. Badly. All the Ford does is make noise for the first few hundred RPM. Meanwhile the Chevy is moving as soon as my foot comes off the pedal.
I appreciate the input, but itís gonna be a 9mpg gas motor, not an 8mpg diesel in my suburban.

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2020, 11:06:45 PM »
Nice Sub, Jeremy.  I've always had a soft spot in my heart for the eight-luggers.


If I may throw-in my $0.02...

Maybe think about stepping-away from a big block flat tappet motor and towards a big block roller motor.  Although not stellar, I think there are some MPG gains to be had.

I believe the GM crate 454 HO is a roller, as well as the HT502 and 502 HO.  I also believe they'll run on 87 octane...which is a huge plus when your MPG is in the single digits.
I spent most of my money on Jack Daniel's, Copenhagen, pocket knives, and 4X4 trucks.  The rest I just wasted.

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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2020, 12:07:32 AM »
Iím definitely planning on a roller cam. Absolutely. Iíve got another block, decked, align-bored and cylinders bored 0.060Ē over.  Thatís a 4.310Ē bore. Still working out some top end stuff so I can get the right dish pistons. Iím shooting for mid-10 compression. I may have to run premium in the summer or hauling, but I think that should be safe compression range with EFI. The plan is to have the machine shop do the short block and Iíll build the top end. Iíve built a handful of motorcycle engines, one was a championship ďBattle of the TwinsĒ winner. I feel confident in my skills, assisted by youtube and forums like this. Ideally Iíll break the motor in in a dyno cell, tune it, get the tremec as figured out as I can out of the truck and hopefully install it all over a three-day weekend.
Thatís likely several months away. In the meantime Iím gonna do the dash and put in a stereo over the next week.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2020, 01:09:55 PM »
Sounds like you have a good game plan.

Nothing like a BB to twist your wicket!

My fav was a 425 in a '66 Toronado, major blast and FWD to boot.

I meant the interior BTW...

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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2020, 05:03:10 PM »
Yeah... the interior is definitely gnarly. Most of it just hasnít been ripped out yet. My girlfriend, who wouldnít even sit in the original front seat calls it ďrat-chewed, mildewed and utterly disgustingĒ... Again, most of it wonít stay. Iím a big fan of things that get clean with a hose or pressure washer. It works well with my aesthetic. Kinda thinking of making all the upholstery go away and rhino lining or similar the whole interior.

Here was todayís work:

The vice grips are temporary, but I got both rear doors swapped over to manual crank. I pulled out the power lock actuators as well.

Them GM engineers werenít slackers. I was surprised to learn that the door stampings were the same for manual or automatic windows. Even more surprised that the crank lines up perfectly with the hole where the window switch once lived.

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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2020, 03:46:15 PM »
I got a few hours at the shop today. I continued yesterdayís ďrip and tearĒ...




Decided that 1990ís ďfinest auto protectionĒ is gonna have to go.


I really donít want to be THAT guy...

Next week is gonna be gauges and stereo. Iím gonna try my hand at dash-pad repair as well. I got a jump start on some stereo related parts.



Iím thinking Iím also gonna replace the velour inserts with aluminum. Hoping Iíll be able to just clean up the factory panels to my liking.

If anyone has suggestions for a coating or way to clean up the dash or door panels I am all ears. Iíd love something like plastidip, I havenít found it to be durable enough though.

Happy Valentineís Day


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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2020, 04:11:58 PM »
Since Iím also using this as my introduction Iím gonna share some non-suburban stuff. Like I said earlier. I do special effects stuff for the movie business. Hereís a couple cars we built last year:
08 (I think) BMW 750, full cage and powder cannon.




17(?) Dodge Charger full cage, originally was a cannon car, changed to ďsidewinderĒ four days before it was to shoot:





Retrieving the cannon from the beemer:


Lastly, this is my shop, home away from home, keeper of my most prized possessions and sometimes bane of my existence:





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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2020, 06:51:23 PM »
Two great posts, Jeremy.  That last post is just OFF-THE-CHARTS cool!

I'm crazy-jealous of your shop.
I spent most of my money on Jack Daniel's, Copenhagen, pocket knives, and 4X4 trucks.  The rest I just wasted.