Guess what happened at 3 am today

[Layne]

We moved out of a bad part of town to a quiet dead end street on the edge of town. No one messed with us in the bad part. What can I do? I just spent all my tax refund fixing this thing. I just now got back to work so I dropped my insurance because I couldn't afford it being laid off.  The police have no leads, except for some punks in black hoodies who got a car a street across from us.

[VileZambonie]

It's obviously 14-16 year old kids or an enemy and not a thief. Time to load the slugger and start rockin the night vision camera.

[Blazin]

My niece's car got all the windows smashed out of it the other night, along with damage to a bunch of other cars. She is the one her husband just deployed, plus they just had a baby about two months ago.

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[Lt.Del]

Hoodlums.  I hope the same is done to them when they are older and have a family and realize money doesn't grow on trees.
 
Many homeowners insurance policies will accept a claim of vandalism on the property (land) that is insured.  If you rent, some renters insurance will do the same.  Also, it may be advisable to check landord's insurance policy as well if you rent.

It may be a good time to look at revising insurance policies if it is not covered on homeowners.  

and invest in some deer hunting-motion activated cameras.  

I have flood lights all around my house with motion sensors.  Never had any problems like that in 19 yrs living here.  Of course, If i walk in my back yard or driveway at night, everything lights up like it was the middle of the day.  

And,  my Golden Retriever let's us know if he hears anything outside.  

[Blazin]

Yeah I live out in the country, Most of the young adults are friends with me, and have passed on the fact to the kids around they might get to look down the barrel of my Glock, or a Harington Richards 16 gage pump shot gun if they mess with my stuff. Have never had any major problems. 

[Irish_Alley]

i live out on a dirt road every now and then a mail box gets smashed or run over, then every once in a blue moon some drunk will drive up onto the farm and go to the bath room by one of my uncles houses. get this part his daughter saw him and didn't say anything she just went back to bed shes about 16. but after that they drove across the field and park their van in the barn left the lights on and the driver passed out grand parents called my father in law (i was at work) he ran out there only to find the drive since the others took off on foot he got his Remington and dint take the sights off the drunk driver till the cops showed up.

[Lt.Del]

they might get to look down the barrel of my Glock,

Amen, Brother!  Ofcourse the libs want to take that from us so the only ones with guns will be the criminals.  Yeah, that's smart.

Also, if it comes to you actually using a Glock or equivalent, (what am I thinking, there is no equivalent to Glock, my bad--i've got one on my side as i type this Glock 23) you better have your story straight---that you thought you saw a gun on the other person, or he reached into his jacket quickly, or whatever, so you won't spend the rest of your life behind bars.  Defending property alone with the USE of deadly force (not the show of) is a definate no-no. However, defending your or your family's life with deadly force is just fine as long as you can tell the DA you thought you saw a gun/weapon.  

[Blazin]

You feared for your life is what my lawyer told me years back when i was arrested for pulling a gun on three dirt bags. Model 17 is whats on my side.

[Lt.Del]

i have two Glock model 17's--outstanding!!!  9mm with 17 round mags..oh yeah!  the thing about my .40 cal Glock 23 is the mag is only a 13 rounder.

Anyway, yes, fear of your life, or harm.  That is the catch all.  Of course, it really doesn't matter too much if you display a weapon "as defense" when responding to an incident...simply being outnumbered is justification for having a weapon present. You can't honestly wait to get shot, or beat up, then go get your gun--even though you can't tell politicians, whose never worked in law enforcement, that.  It's when you actually use the weapon is when your story must be bullet-proof (pun intended)

But, also keep in mind, that when responding to a situation with a weapon, the mere fact that you are displaying a weapon could be seen as you being the "agressor".  So, the hoodlums can get off scott free if they shoot you--even though they are the ones breaking the law.  I've seen it happen where the hoodlums get off from the attempted murder charge because they were acting in self-defense when they see the property owner with the gun. They still are convicted on the lesser charge of whatever crime they were in the middle of, and, a possession of a weapon charge, but not guilty on attempted murder--they (the criminals) claim self defense.  Moral of the story, take your weapon, but, be ready for any consequences that may result.  And remember, dead people can't testify against you

[Blazin]

17 rounds are pretty good odds in ones favor! My father always told us the same, dead dirt bags don't talk, so they can't lie! He was also said if they are inside the house, shoot first ask questions later! Growing up all of us kids, and my mother knew where the 38 revolver with numbers filed off was hidden. If you had to take care of business, and the scum bag didn't bring his own gun, he was to be given that one! My old man was the toughest man I ever knew, or will ever know. He grew up in the 20's & 30's on the streets of Baltimore M.D. He didn't take any crap from anyone. Back then you could get away with giving an idiot an education, and not get arrested for it!
The one time I pulled my Glock on three known scumbags, one of which was wanted out of Louisiana for a list as long as my arm. I was charged with assault with a deadly weapon. At the time the chief of police in town, and I didn't see eye to eye on many levels. He pushed the state police to persue charges. The day before my trial I got a letter in the mail saying no indictment sought, insufficient evidence of a crime. The night of the incident the fugitive was arrested, and was supposed to be held for extradition. The next day the moron judge let him go into the custody of the mother of the other two dirt bags from that night for $100 cash bail! The two brothers didn't get into trouble as one was a minor, the other one was on probation, and his mother swore up and down to the chief that he was not around that night. That it was her boyfriend that was there. My best friend who got the crap beat out of him on his own front porch by the fugitive was also charged a few weeks later the same day I was arrested for mutual combat. The reason I didn't mix it up with the two brothers is the older one that was on probation had just got out of the hospital the day before after a truck rollover. He had only been awake after being unconscious for two weeks for four days. Still had stitches from the top of his head to his collar bone area. I figured if I punched him I would end up on manslaughter charges or something along those lines. The other reason is he reached inside his coat. Probably for a knife, but could have been a gun?? I will never know! I know one thing, the whole bunch of that scummer family will cross the street now to avoid me to this day, its been 11 plus years!  

[Lt.Del]

i'd say you got your point accross.

[Blazin]

Yeah, I still meet people to this day that ask aren't you the one that blah blah blah? LOL

[three8six]

In Florida even a felon has a right to defend himself in a public place, the felon would be charged with illegal firearms poss. by felon, but not for the act of defense. The other great thing is that self defense includes you and anybody within 10 feet of you.

[Layne]

We had issues with our neighbors but they moved three months ago. I filed a claim with my homeowners insurance so hopefully we can address this. I've got some burnout tires on there now, but it sure is a cold ride lol. Mandy won't let me bring my guns from my parents because of the kids. DCFS is our neighbor- I mean they're right on top of us. I park there sometimes. They gotta have cameras. My truck was in the street in front of my place so hopefully my insurance will cover it. If the police find out who it was- which they probably won't- I'm suing for my time, the jack I had to buy, my NEW tires that have 15 miles on them, my newer tires on they citation, windows, and just generally because the irritated me. This stinks, guys. Glad I got a place to vent though

[Layne]

We never lock the doors either. Good thing my pitbull and rotts were in the house and not the backyard. Being from the country, and having to start out in town, it's a little rough not trusting your neighbors anymore.