Hey thanks alot.. I appreciate the advice on which springs to remove.. im planning on doing 2 1/2 drop spindles up front and the 3-4 shakle/hanger drop in back, i just am a little tired of the brick like ride... i am hoping to soften it up just a bit.. the most comfortable it ever rode was with 1600 lbs of shingle in the back, it only dropped the back 2 inches since i loaded pretty close to the cab and the ride was sweet.. just burned more gas lol. anyway, im hoping to soften the ride, and with the lowering i wtill want to keep a rake going... hopefully ill get all im looking for... thanks.. John