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Offline VTK5Mudder

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Need to bleed brakes
« on: January 21, 2015, 01:35:44 am »
I had to replace the brake line from the front to the rear and the left front rubber line on my 79 3/4t gmc and need to bleed them out now. the problem is the bleeder screws are no good they are shot and I don't have the place ,time ,money or help to replace everything . in the pass I have bled brakes at the fittings where the lines go in and has worked . I know this isn't the right way to do it but was only done on yard rigs nothing that was driven on the roads and this truck for now is only used in my yard to plow with. the problem is I have pumped the brake up and cracked the lines right rear first then left then to front and can not get the peddle to stay hard it goes right to the floor . any help with would be great as I need to get this up and going to plow my yard , thanks

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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2015, 09:46:02 am »
the problem is the bleeder screws are no good they are shot and I don't have the place ,time ,money or help to replace everything .
 

Are the bleeders stuck or rounded off?  Can you soak the bleeders in PB blaster (overnight or for a day or two) and then get vice grips on them?
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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2015, 02:25:26 pm »
if you can just remove them i have gravity bled mine and it works good
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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2015, 05:04:02 pm »
the problem is the bleeder screws are no good they are shot and I don't have the place ,time ,money or help to replace everything .
 

Are the bleeders stuck or rounded off?  Can you soak the bleeders in PB blaster (overnight or for a day or two) and then get vice grips on them?
no there just really rust on and yes I should there stuck I know they will just break off if I try.

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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2015, 05:10:25 pm »
if you can just remove them i have gravity bled mine and it works good
when you mean gravity bleed them do you pump them up then crack the line or just crack the lines and just let them run ? what I have been doing is pumping the up holding the pedal while my son crack the line just a little been getting air and after doing this a few time it starts coming out good so we move to the next wheel . if I do a what I think you mean do I just crack one line at a time and let it run out and not pump the brake up ? thanks

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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2015, 07:50:29 pm »
let them run. i start at the rear lines and work my way to the front passengers side then drivers side. one time i cracked my rear bleeders went in to have a quick meal and came out and i had little fluid coming out and all the air was out. a friend had just got an 05 impala we did the brakes i would pump the lines he would crack the bleeder. did everything right but couldnt get the all the air out. come to find out who ever sold it installed the calipers on the wrong side so the bleeders wernt on top they were on the bottom so air was still trapped. once they got switch they worked fine
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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2015, 02:16:28 am »
let them run. i start at the rear lines and work my way to the front passengers side then drivers side. one time i cracked my rear bleeders went in to have a quick meal and came out and i had little fluid coming out and all the air was out. a friend had just got an 05 impala we did the brakes i would pump the lines he would crack the bleeder. did everything right but couldnt get the all the air out. come to find out who ever sold it installed the calipers on the wrong side so the bleeders wernt on top they were on the bottom so air was still trapped. once they got switch they worked fine
now will this be ok by just cracking the lines at the fittings ? since there's no way I can do it from the bleeder screws ? I know I wont have the greats brakes but as long as I have a brake to stop that will get me through the winter that would be great as there's no way I can do a brake job now . thanks

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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2015, 03:54:56 am »
i dont think so. but none on your bleeders will unscrew even just the front?
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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2015, 03:55:43 am »
with that impala we still had brakes but when you first would try them it would go to the floor the second time you would have 75%
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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2015, 09:51:57 am »
Soak em every day with PB blaster or Kroil or acetone mixed with trans fluid

After a week try a small mapp gas torch and use a 6 point socket Tapping the handle with a hammer


I have a read axle with a snapped off bleeder
It's a 14 bolt ff
Gotta pull the shaft  drum and shoes sink can replace wheel cylinder

Front brakes work great though

If you can get the front ones to bleed you will be able  to drive it carefully





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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2015, 03:06:32 am »
all the bleeders are basically a lump of rust . the brake line on front I just replaced the bleeder looks like a stick of rust !I plan on this summer replace the other front line and all the rear brakes I just a brake now so I can plow out my yard with it . I've bled brakes before on old junks by just cracking the lines and its worked enough so I had a brake but this time its not working cant seem to get a pedal .

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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2015, 11:14:55 am »
If it were mine I would beat a size smaller socket onto the rusted ones and turn until it comes loose or breaks (after soaking it with your choice of PB or similar).  Then just replace the caliper or wheel cylinders where they break.  If they all break, oh well--at least you start off with new lines and new cylinders and you're good for a long time.

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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2015, 03:32:08 pm »
If it were mine I would beat a size smaller socket onto the rusted ones and turn until it comes loose or breaks (after soaking it with your choice of PB or similar).  Then just replace the caliper or wheel cylinders where they break.  If they all break, oh well--at least you start off with new lines and new cylinders and you're good for a long time.
right now I just don't have the money to replace everything I want to and plan on it but im also fighting the cold weather up here in Vermont . im out of work so this doesn't help . I don't like plowing with out some kind of brakes I did that the before not fun lol. to be honest I don't think I can even beat a socket on them theres not much to them lo , thanks

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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2015, 10:32:21 am »
Can you get Vice grips on them (real vice grip pliers)

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Re: Need to bleed brakes
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2015, 02:21:03 am »
Can you get Vice grips on them (real vice grip pliers)
haven't tried vice grips thought of it but so dam afraid that ill break them off then ill be screw'd for sure.